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Versa 1 + Prime + Erase + jack3d micro

I mix my.MBCAA with LL Gatorade powder and it would be perfect.

Sounds like a pretty decent combo especially considering Gatorade switched from high fructose corn syrup to sucrose/dextrose combo

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Thursday 3/21

Yesterday I did the following:

BB flat
DB shoulder Press
Close grip bench
Lat Pulldown
BB Row

I am VERY sore this morning. Havent been this sore in a long time. Im going easy on my shoulders still, dont want anything to flare up so, along with deadlifts/squats, im slowly adding more weight. only did 65 on DB shoulder press. i could have done alot more but didnt want to push it. last time i only did 55. anyways, i have a few new findings with this stack

for review, i am taking Erase - 3 caps/day, Compound 20 - 4 caps/day , and Versa 1 - 1 cap/day. I started the c20 a few days ago. well yesterday, my libido was through the roof. so far its actually been fairly low. Its weird (i posted a thread about this a while ago), but when i take products, my libido starts high but then hits the floor. Also, starting to see "new" veins in my shoulder area. Focus is still great at the gym. still taking jack3d micro pre workout. Friday I am going to weigh in and hopefully get my bf% measured.

My girlfriends sister (Morgan) is steadily getting stronger! when we first started (4 weeks ago) she could only do 45 pounds on bench. Yesterday she did 75 DC with me. def liking the progress.
 
Have you considered that the rise and fall of your libido could be estrogen related? 3 caps of Erase may have initially caused a boost before dropping your estrogen further, along with your libido. Is the soreness you're experiencing in your joints?
 
Have you considered that the rise and fall of your libido could be estrogen related? 3 caps of Erase may have initially caused a boost before dropping your estrogen further, along with your libido. Is the soreness you're experiencing in your joints?

Was going to say this as well. When I ran erase it started high then completely went down hill at three caps. Just a thought bud.
 
Have you considered that the rise and fall of your libido could be estrogen related? 3 caps of Erase may have initially caused a boost before dropping your estrogen further, along with your libido. Is the soreness you're experiencing in your joints?

no joint issues. libido still high. just sore from DC. DOMS
 
no joint issues. libido still high. just sore from DC. DOMS

Well, that's good news. I had thought you were saying that your libido was down already.
 
3/22

Today sucked, but in a good way. Windowmaker leg press.... ohmy... totally killer. i usually do 12/8/4 RP with these but decided to give it a go. crazy hard. I can go heavy with these because it really doesnt involve my back since im seated on an incline. anyways, have any of you tried these before? am i being a girl complaining how hard these are or do you all agree?!
 
3/22

Today sucked, but in a good way. Windowmaker leg press.... ohmy... totally killer. i usually do 12/8/4 RP with these but decided to give it a go. crazy hard. I can go heavy with these because it really doesnt involve my back since im seated on an incline. anyways, have any of you tried these before? am i being a girl complaining how hard these are or do you all agree?!

No bro I've done them b4. Not fun at all!
 
3/22

Today sucked, but in a good way. Windowmaker leg press.... ohmy... totally killer. i usually do 12/8/4 RP with these but decided to give it a go. crazy hard. I can go heavy with these because it really doesnt involve my back since im seated on an incline. anyways, have any of you tried these before? am i being a girl complaining how hard these are or do you all agree?!

I've done them. Rep out until you can't do any more reps then lock your legs out at the top until you can do another, and keep locking out and repeating as soon as you are able to get just one more rep. Once you go on for about 10 paused reps like that well...you'll be in pain.
 
I've done them. Rep out until you can't do any more reps then lock your legs out at the top until you can do another, and keep locking out and repeating as soon as you are able to get just one more rep. Once you go on for about 10 paused reps like that well...you'll be in pain.

Yes indeed no fun. But pain is the name of this game. You all have inspired me to throw these in for leg day on Sunday :-)
 
I've done them. Rep out until you can't do any more reps then lock your legs out at the top until you can do another, and keep locking out and repeating as soon as you are able to get just one more rep. Once you go on for about 10 paused reps like that well...you'll be in pain.

yep!
 
Yes indeed no fun. But pain is the name of this game. You all have inspired me to throw these in for leg day on Sunday :-)

they are killer man!!!! ima start to do them on every other leg day once i get back to my normal routine
 
3/24 - sunday

quick update. not sure if its my tan or what but i look a little different. leaner but larger. I am weighing in Monday and will be hitting mostly upper body DC. In the shower tonight, i noticed a thick vein running across my left calf muscle. wasnt there a month ago i can tell you that! im starting to see "new" veins in a lot of random places i have never seen before. most of them except for my calf are not really noticeable unless i have a pump. btw, jack3d micro is officially in my top 3 pre workouts. this is my second time using it and the results deliver every time. huge fan of the small scoop. i hate when a pre workout has a large scoop. too much dye or something...makes me sick.

i didnt even get sore from leg press windowmakers. gonna try to go heavier and see. im going as deep as i can, even do a 1-2 second pause to get that stretch in my hammy's
 
I love the consistency of micro's effects as well; the last scoop is just as great as the first.
 
yeah man, plus my legs have a low tolerance to soreness. really weird.

fruit punch.

This has happened to a few times, just when I think I didn't push hard enough boom, my wife is helping me off the ****ter :-)

I love the consistency of micro's effects as well; the last scoop is just as great as the first.

^^^^this is so true! I've been off micro for a couple weeks and I'm not happy about at all. It's def my fav all around pre.
 
really good workout today. im -2 pounds since the start of the stack. I did a little more volume. just wanted to get more work in. did reverse grip tricep extension on the cable fly machine 3 sets all drop sets 12,10,8. did the same with machine flys. Ill have more to post tomorrow morning. gotta sleep
 
3/17 - Wednesday

Today was legs, biceps, forearms. KILLER workout. I used muscle marinade today to change it up and had a bad crash when i got home. ended up taking a 1 hr nap and was tired all evening. increased my squat 10 pounds as the chiro is allowing me. still very easy to do right now but they still kill b/c i go slow on the negative and go as low as i can. once i get into real weight i will go parallel. My body comp is seriously changing before my eyes. i didnt weigh in today, but i will on Friday. no changes in strength with arms, but im not really working for strength. getting the most out of every rep, perfect form...etc. mainly body comp stuff for now.
 
3/17 - Wednesday

Today was legs, biceps, forearms. KILLER workout. I used muscle marinade today to change it up and had a bad crash when i got home. ended up taking a 1 hr nap and was tired all evening. increased my squat 10 pounds as the chiro is allowing me. still very easy to do right now but they still kill b/c i go slow on the negative and go as low as i can. once i get into real weight i will go parallel. My body comp is seriously changing before my eyes. i didnt weigh in today, but i will on Friday. no changes in strength with arms, but im not really working for strength. getting the most out of every rep, perfect form...etc. mainly body comp stuff for now.

Good things still going on in here I love it bud! How's the focus with the Versa 1 for you?

I had the same thing happen to me with MM the last three times I used it, so I got rid of it, plus I felt cracked out on it lol. Glad the back is holding up for you
 
3/17 - Wednesday

Today was legs, biceps, forearms. KILLER workout. I used muscle marinade today to change it up and had a bad crash when i got home. ended up taking a 1 hr nap and was tired all evening. increased my squat 10 pounds as the chiro is allowing me. still very easy to do right now but they still kill b/c i go slow on the negative and go as low as i can. once i get into real weight i will go parallel. My body comp is seriously changing before my eyes. i didnt weigh in today, but i will on Friday. no changes in strength with arms, but im not really working for strength. getting the most out of every rep, perfect form...etc. mainly body comp stuff for now.

Nice...keep us posted. I'll be interested to see where your weight is at.
 
Good things still going on in here I love it bud! How's the focus with the Versa 1 for you?

I had the same thing happen to me with MM the last three times I used it, so I got rid of it, plus I felt cracked out on it lol. Glad the back is holding up for you

Versa still is showing some focus, but it isnt like the tunnel vision/focus i saw with Lit Up. I loved that stuff

Yeah im even doing straight leg deads (only doing 145 right now, slowly adding) and its been ok. woke up last night with a little pain but put the heat pad on there and it was fine

Nice...keep us posted. I'll be interested to see where your weight is at.

yeah im curious also. i feel bigger but it may be just i lost body fat but kinda staying the same weight.
 
I would suggest 50mg a day for 3 months

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I would suggest 50mg a day for 3 months

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Yep.

Today was a killer workout. Didnt lift with my gf's sister. Lifted with my cousin who is competing in the next branch warren classic in Houston. Love training with him. He isnt on dc but we did a few of the same workouts. Also did a little more machine work at the end. Scale is +2 pounds from last weigh in so my weight is back at even. Its weird, my weight never fluctuates like this. Minimal strength gains so far. No crash on jack3d micro. MM just screwed me last time. May lower the dose next time I use it. Been getting in the hot tub more often. Finally did sumo deads today with 225. I know it isnt a lot but I dont wanna go all out on squats/deads yet. Stilk having back pain after I do those lifts. When I bend forward, my back feels the best. Straight or backwards is when it hurts. Still heating it every morning and night along with my neck. Trying to get a ct scan but the chiro feels there isnt a need...
 
with these supplements, my recovery seems to be improved quite a bit. it gets better and better each workout. thats why i wanted to add a little more volume to DC (although i know you shouldnt) but with this stack, why not. not alot more, just did a machine for chest and an extra machine for triceps. but my chest today, i am very very sore. i love it
 
with these supplements, my recovery seems to be improved quite a bit. it gets better and better each workout. thats why i wanted to add a little more volume to DC (although i know you shouldnt) but with this stack, why not. not alot more, just did a machine for chest and an extra machine for triceps. but my chest today, i am very very sore. i love it
I say go for it if you think you can handle it. Just be cautious and listen to your body. VERSA-1™ especially really shines in terms of recovery for many people.
 
I say go for it if you think you can handle it. Just be cautious and listen to your body. VERSA-1™ especially really shines in terms of recovery for many people.

I'll second that. If your recovery isn't an issue, I don't see anything wrong with added volume.
 
yeah i just know the DC "experts" say never add anymore, DC is made this way for a reason but why not get the most out of the stack ya know? my body feels great. chest is still sore, but I will look to add more volume on everything except legs. i will stick with straight DC for that. i will only be adding one additional exercise for each body group. since im doing this, ill start to post numbers and if i have time, ill post previous numbers as well. even though im not logging them on here, i have them saved on my computer.
 
yeah i just know the DC "experts" say never add anymore, DC is made this way for a reason but why not get the most out of the stack ya know? my body feels great. chest is still sore, but I will look to add more volume on everything except legs. i will stick with straight DC for that. i will only be adding one additional exercise for each body group. since im doing this, ill start to post numbers and if i have time, ill post previous numbers as well. even though im not logging them on here, i have them saved on my computer.

I tried that and I found recovery to be a b!tch. My DOMS is already bad enough from the training layout.

Only think that compares to my DC DOMS is MD back training. That hit my late haaaaard
 
Actually, i totally forgot Monday is April 1st, which means its time for my routine to change in prep for my cut. Here is the layout

4/1
Bench – (Low rep) –
DB Incline –
Flys
Reverse Grip Bench – (Low Rep) –
Dips –
Skull Crusher –

4/3
Squats (WM) –
Hammy Curl –
Calf Raises –
Abs/Cardio (swimming, jump rope..etc all HIIT)

4/5
T Bar Row (Heavy)
V Bar Seated Row
Pull Up
BB Curl (Heavy)
Preacher
Single Hand Cable Reverse Grip -

for arms, my last exercise I will do either drop sets or super set it with something else that works the same muscle.
 
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