VECTOR pre release leaks and info

This makes me want to revisit keto, I'm just afraid of loosing muscle because I did the first time I ran it. Maybe when I'm done bulking I'll give it another go.

How could you lose muscle on Keto? Your body uses fat for fuel, not protein, unless you over indulge in protein, then you enter glycigenisis, where you are kicked out of keto and your body converts the protein into carbohydrates. You have to eat more fat. It's really strange. Once you're past the "Keto-Flu", you're gold, and now I'm trying to keep it creative.

Some things I have learned in my research on Keto that would help, especially on a cut, and in light of my TRT too.
A few things to put back in the diet or supplementation if not already.***

- Fish Oil (Krill Oil)
- Hydrolyzed Collagen Protein
- 7 Keto DHEA (Really Optional, and great for a cut) I may consider this post cycle, at my 12 week mark.
- Creatine
- MCT Oil (Not liquid, but Caps or Powder)
- Electrolytes
- L-Glutamine
- Vitamin D
- Bone Broth

The key points in keto are also to avoid certain hidden carbs in various food sources.
It's been quite the puzzle to unravel, but Dr. Google has some great resources.


*** Reminder ***
Without modifying my current routine, over 7 weeks I have lost 10 pounds and have retained / gained muscle.
As with any program, when you gain more knowledge to improve performance and efficiency, you test the waters and see what is going to work and what will not. So far this has been a great ride, and see it only getting better into weeks 8-12.
 
I just look at "What's new / New Posts" when a thread fails to deliver a notification.

That being said, I also popped in to update my private logging of Vector / Follidrone 2.0 into weeks 7/8 and my first week of Ketogenics. I'm fascinated now with Ketogenics and how it can be used more successfully with Vector / Follidrone 2.0 for a recomp. Since starting I've dropped 10 pounds from 245, to 235 and the mirror shows a still fuller physique. I'm keeping my muscle, and more so, as stated before, gaining muscle in my legs. That quad is popping and gaining some definition.

I've gleaned from research, how anti-inflammatories help when your in keto, and the energy derivation switching from carbs to fats is also going to help me retain muscle in this cut. It's kind of phenomenal to experience. Knowing my body is now being used as a tool to keep muscle in a caloric deficit, and Vector is helping me gain muscle.

Snack
Making bacon wrapped chilies with cream cheese stuffing... :)

Prepping Caveman Platter (Meat Porn, Lamb & Steak with Bacon and Mushrooms)

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I used to eat keto too. How long have you been on keto for and what’s your current bf%? In retrospect my biggest piece of advice for myself and others is to have a carby refeed every two weeks or so. It helps to keep your lepton in check and having a bit of glycogen in reserve is beneficial.

I also wish I was on Follidrone and vector when I was eating keto lol
 
I used to eat keto too. How long have you been on keto for and what’s your current bf%? In retrospect my biggest piece of advice for myself and others is to have a carby refeed every two weeks or so. It helps to keep your lepton in check and having a bit of glycogen in reserve is beneficial.

I also wish I was on Follidrone and vector when I was eating keto lol

My body fat is up and based on Mrs. Mirror... too high. lol, but it's coming off everywhere but where I really want it! As usual. The gut is the last to go for me. It's been a little over a week. Do you think it's too soon to reseed at the first (two week) mark?

Edit: I think I'm going to also eyeball the scale now and then, and if I plateau then maybe a refeed.
 
I used to diet Keto, i did have around 160-180 grams of protein per day though with around 100 grams of fat, i thought the protein was a little high to be KETO though so kept using the test stips which kept showing pink to dark purple depending on hydration levels and was losing fat at a good rate, i never tried it with FD2 though. nowadays i prefer to just diet PSMF style keeping carbs and fats low which i feel works even better and faster for fat loss + works awesome when i decide to re-feed. Also due to being low in fat and carbs i find i can add both of them when refeeding with success. i tend to keep fat under 50 grams for my first re feeds though to keep fat loss progressing until i start to use them as mass calorie days to transition into a lean mass / bulking phase.
 
This makes me want to revisit keto, I'm just afraid of loosing muscle because I did the first time I ran it. Maybe when I'm done bulking I'll give it another go.

I know of a number of guys currently running keto diets who are in the 200-210lb range and frigging shredded.
No drugs.
BLR stacks
Keto.
They look like the muscle was laser etched.
 
My body fat is up and based on Mrs. Mirror... too high. lol, but it's coming off everywhere but where I really want it! As usual. The gut is the last to go for me. It's been a little over a week. Do you think it's too soon to reseed at the first (two week) mark?

Edit: I think I'm going to also eyeball the scale now and then, and if I plateau then maybe a refeed.

If your bf is that high, don’t refeed! Us big boys don’t need refeeds until we get to much lower bf%.
 
My body fat is up and based on Mrs. Mirror... too high. lol, but it's coming off everywhere but where I really want it! As usual. The gut is the last to go for me. It's been a little over a week. Do you think it's too soon to reseed at the first (two week) mark?

How could you lose muscle on Keto? Your body uses fat for fuel, not protein, unless you over indulge in protein, then you enter glycigenisis, where you are kicked out of keto and your body converts the protein into carbohydrates. You have to eat more fat. It's really strange. Once you're past the "Keto-Flu", you're gold, and now I'm trying to keep it creative.

Some things I have learned in my research on Keto that would help, especially on a cut, and in light of my TRT too.
A few things to put back in the diet or supplementation if not already.***

- Fish Oil (Krill Oil)
- Hydrolyzed Collagen Protein
- 7 Keto DHEA (Really Optional, and great for a cut) I may consider this post cycle, at my 12 week mark.
- Creatine
- MCT Oil (Not liquid, but Caps or Powder)
- Electrolytes
- L-Glutamine
- Vitamin D
- Bone Broth

The key points in keto are also to avoid certain hidden carbs in various food sources.
It's been quite the puzzle to unravel, but Dr. Google has some great resources.


*** Reminder ***
Without modifying my current routine, over 7 weeks I have lost 10 pounds and have retained / gained muscle.
As with any program, when you gain more knowledge to improve performance and efficiency, you test the waters and see what is going to work and what will not. So far this has been a great ride, and see it only getting better into weeks 8-12.

Well good work man. The two weeks mark’s a good time to start, it’d be smart to keep your metabolism up the whole time.
Green machine is right in that it’s not strictly necessary at higher BF%s but I think it would probably help. And it’d also make you binging at some point less likely. In the grand scheme of things, the worst case scenario aftermath of you having a healthy-ish refeed is that your cut will take a day or two longer. The best case scenario is that you’ll finish your cut a few days sooner and a tiny bit stronger
Have you read up on refeeding? Briefly in case you haven’t. Ideally; eat a 500 calorie surplus, consuming at least your body weight in lbs of protein, 20-30% of maintenance from fat, then the rest from carbs (primarily from starch and low in fructose). Deviating a bit won’t do much harm just try to keep fat low-ish, eat a surplus, but don’t overdo the surplus.

I agree with your recommendations, especially the glutamine and bone broth.
Have you tried taking CLA? It’s a staple of mine and extra useful whilst eating keto. I’d also add a multi as things like vit k, iodine, selenium, zinc etc may be lacking in your diet. I’m curious tho, why do you specifically take caps or powder form MCT?

As for losing muscle mass on Keto, it’s definitely possible. Your body can’t always produce energy as quickly from metabolising body fat as it can from blood sugar. The three main limiting factors in this are the rate of fatty acid liberation, leptin and the production of ___ (which suppresses adenyl Cyclase and cAMP, it’s suppressed by yohimbine).
The rate of fatty acid liberation can be increased by a lot of things including HGH. However, if the rate of fatty acid liberation does not meet a person’s energy demands then the body will turn to glycogen or muscle mass.
When a person’s leptin’s low their body liberates fatty acids at a slower rate to help limit body fat depletion. So as above, if that person’s immediate energy demand is greater than the rate of fatty acid liberation then the body will turn to glycogen and then muscle mass to supply energy.
Evolution has made it so that human bodies are programmed genetically to limit its rate of body fat depletion. The main mechanism for this is through the production of ___ which reduces the body’s sensitivity to cAMP, a stimulator of fatty acid liberation.
The different results that people get whilst eating keto are primarily down to these factors, which are partially down to genetic variation, and differences between their supplementation regimens. Their workout style also comes into play as I’ve been told that whilst eating keto focusing on heavy, low volume workouts works better and i agree with the theory behind that recommendation.
 
I don't know how people do keto. I lose all my strength without carbs. I guess we're all different though. But man. I need those CARBS!!
 
Well good work man. The two weeks mark’s a good time to start, it’d be smart to keep your metabolism up the whole time.

Green machine is right in that it’s not strictly necessary at higher BF%s but I think it would probably help. And it’d also make you binging at some point less likely. In the grand scheme of things, the worst case scenario aftermath of you having a healthy-ish refeed is that your cut will take a day or two longer. The best case scenario is that you’ll finish your cut a few days sooner and a tiny bit stronger

Have you read up on refeeding? Briefly in case you haven’t. Ideally; eat a 500 calorie surplus, consuming at least your body weight in lbs of protein, 20-30% of maintenance from fat, then the rest from carbs (primarily from starch and low in fructose). Deviating a bit won’t do much harm just try to keep fat low-ish, eat a surplus, but don’t overdo the surplus.

Thanks! Feeling better as time goes onward, and I hear you both on the re-feed.

I agree with your recommendations, especially the glutamine and bone broth.
Have you tried taking CLA? It’s a staple of mine and extra useful whilst eating keto. I’d also add a multi as things like vit k, iodine, selenium, zinc etc may be lacking in your diet. I’m curious tho, why do you specifically take caps or powder form MCT?

CLA sounds good for energy. I'm using a product now called KETO IGNITE which is basically for energy like Keto Salts, and it's in a powder so I can take it to work and make it at will with Almond Milk. (I love Toasted unsweetened Almond Milk). Which brings me to the MCT. It's about convenience and keeping it clean. No mess. Ha. I prefer powders, and have my eyes on a combo Collagen Protein / MCT mix.

As for losing muscle mass on Keto, it’s definitely possible. Your body can’t always produce energy as quickly from metabolising body fat as it can from blood sugar. The three main limiting factors in this are the rate of fatty acid liberation, leptin and the production of ___ (which suppresses adenyl Cyclase and cAMP, it’s suppressed by yohimbine).

The rate of fatty acid liberation can be increased by a lot of things including HGH. However, if the rate of fatty acid liberation does not meet a person’s energy demands then the body will turn to glycogen or muscle mass.
When a person’s leptin’s low their body liberates fatty acids at a slower rate to help limit body fat depletion. So as above, if that person’s immediate energy demand is greater than the rate of fatty acid liberation then the body will turn to glycogen and then muscle mass to supply energy.

Evolution has made it so that human bodies are programmed genetically to limit its rate of body fat depletion. The main mechanism for this is through the production of ___ which reduces the body’s sensitivity to cAMP, a stimulator of fatty acid liberation.

The different results that people get whilst eating keto are primarily down to these factors, which are partially down to genetic variation, and differences between their supplementation regimens. Their workout style also comes into play as I’ve been told that whilst eating keto focusing on heavy, low volume workouts works better and i agree with the theory behind that recommendation.

A lot of information to chew on. (pun)
I think the exogenous ketones I'm taking in for energy should be good for those times. I feel better without carbs.


I don't know how people do keto. I lose all my strength without carbs. I guess we're all different though. But man. I need those CARBS!!

When in keto our bodies create an excess of ketones for energy in place of carbs, and uses our fat for fuel. It's a biological switch. It's going to be one heck of a ride I think, and am looking forward to the coming weeks to feed back to you guys about my progress. (accidental pun).
 
Thanks! Feeling better as time goes onward, and I hear you both on the re-feed.



CLA sounds good for energy. I'm using a product now called KETO IGNITE which is basically for energy like Keto Salts, and it's in a powder so I can take it to work and make it at will with Almond Milk. (I love Toasted unsweetened Almond Milk). Which brings me to the MCT. It's about convenience and keeping it clean. No mess. Ha. I prefer powders, and have my eyes on a combo Collagen Protein / MCT mix.



A lot of information to chew on. (pun)
I think the exogenous ketones I'm taking in for energy should be good for those times. I feel better without carbs.




When in keto our bodies create an excess of ketones for energy in place of carbs, and uses our fat for fuel. It's a biological switch. It's going to be one heck of a ride I think, and am looking forward to the coming weeks to feed back to you guys about my progress. (accidental pun).

Are you measuring blood ketones?
 
I had the strips then learned they don’t really function properly. Am looking into the best blood / ketone meter.

Open to suggestions

Precision Xtra has done me well. The nova max was ok, but the glucose testing was unreliable, for example, glucose readings of 121 fasted in the morning while keto when blood work confirmed 87.
 
Precision Xtra has done me well. The nova max was ok, but the glucose testing was unreliable, for example, glucose readings of 121 fasted in the morning while keto when blood work confirmed 87.

I'm thinking of the Keto-Mojo device. It looks like it's got the best reviews. Will have a look at the Precision Xtra!
 
Keto is hard.. am tryna do it now.. I'm just not familiar with enough of the food options yet

Research, research research. There are some great sites with recipes and lists for groceries to keep around so you don't fall off. :)

- Bacon is a friend
- Macadamia Nuts
- Pork Rinds (Don't go cheap with these, the cheap one's make me choke)
- Canned Sardines
- Guacamole (Dip the cheese crisps instead of chips, or zucchini chips)
- Cottage Cheese
- Cheese Crisps (Make them in the oven with your favorite cheese)
- Hard Boiled Eggs... (I've eaten a few of these... lol)
 
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Yah I couldnt promote because they are not a sponsor but since someone mentioned it they are having a great sale over there @ SUPPZ
They have most of our line and everything is on sale. This is the best price youll find anywhere so get em while they are hot.
 
So since this thread is so active, can Brundel or any employee check on order from BLR (#10269), the email that it was shipped was sent out Monday (with no tracking number of course) and the mail just came and it wasn’t delivered.

I sent an inquiry email a little over 24hrs ago to the [email protected] to ask for a tracking number and have not received a reply.
 
Thanks! Feeling better as time goes onward, and I hear you both on the re-feed.

CLA sounds good for energy. I'm using a product now called KETO IGNITE which is basically for energy like Keto Salts, and it's in a powder so I can take it to work and make it at will with Almond Milk. (I love Toasted unsweetened Almond Milk). Which brings me to the MCT. It's about convenience and keeping it clean. No mess. Ha. I prefer powders, and have my eyes on a combo Collagen Protein / MCT mix.

A lot of information to chew on. (pun)
I think the exogenous ketones I'm taking in for energy should be good for those times. I feel better without carbs.

When in keto our bodies create an excess of ketones for energy in place of carbs, and uses our fat for fuel. It's a biological switch. It's going to be one heck of a ride I think, and am looking forward to the coming weeks to feed back to you guys about my progress. (accidental pun).

Aha fair on the MCT, I found some 100ml coconut oil bottles in Thailand so I’ve just been keeping one in my bag.
CLA also helps your body metabolise fat, conserving muscle mass.
I like chewing on information like dogs like chewing on bones. Also this info’s carb-free btw so it won’t take you out of ketosis 

I used to fast HARD (wouldn’t recommend my old regimen to people), since doing that I never really feel sluggish or hungry if I haven’t eaten all day, if I got enough sleep.

Edit: Nutritional yeast’s a good food/supplement especially for keto. It’s a good source of folate, folic acid and some other things, the protein in it’s complete, and it’s low on carbs per portion

ttortman78 people usually need a while to adapt to eating low carb and the length of time for adaptation differs from person to person. Something like 25% of people just can’t do it without getting hangry, it’s a genetic thing.
 
Keto is hard.. am tryna do it now.. I'm just not familiar with enough of the food options yet

As general rules:
Eat meats, eggs and veggies (no grains or sweet potato, and take it easy on pumpkin, peas and carrots)
Take it easy on fruits. No fruit juice
Imagine what hunter gatherers who didn’t grow things would’ve eaten

The spartan and paleo diets are good bases for a keto diet.
Look at the label of foods you want to buy at the supermarket to check their carb content. After a few trips youll have a pretty good picture of what to and not to buy.
Counting macros will make life a lot easier. When I was eating keto, figuring out how much fat I should have without counting macros was really hard. Once you know how to do it, after a lil practice it’ll only take you a minute, if that, to count the macros for a meal
 
You guys should make a list of people and their results, so like on the first page edit 1st or second post with;
Name-
Starting stats-
End stats-
Diet and Training-
Additional comments-

Could do some kind of table and link it here or something
 
So since this thread is so active, can Brundel or any employee check on order from BLR (#10269), the email that it was shipped was sent out Monday (with no tracking number of course) and the mail just came and it wasn’t delivered.

I sent an inquiry email a little over 24hrs ago to the [email protected] to ask for a tracking number and have not received a reply.

Send an message through the contact page on our website.
Forum reps dont handle website shipping.
If you dont get a reply within 24 hours hit em again.
 
Vector gave me bloated stomach and crazy gas? Any recommendations to avoid or help? Loved the results but that and having to eat so much killed me. Looking to start it again, lol.
 
Vector gave me bloated stomach and crazy gas? Any recommendations to avoid or help? Loved the results but that and having to eat so much killed me. Looking to start it again, lol.

What does your diet look like?

Edit:
Taking a pre and probiotic might help. I think one's gut health has something to do with this.
I also think your diet has a bit additional.
 
I love vector. I legitmately have never put the weight up that I am currently doing. Ive never pushed myself this hard. Just ordered myself some Follidrone 2.0 from BLRs website :).
 
Was taking guthealth. I know reading the posts I have not been the only one experiencing.

Most people aren’t really having any issues with stomach bloat or gas, so I am thinking it might have to do with your diet. What about Fructose, or artificial sweeteners? Lactose?

I’m ketogenic and have zero issues with gas or bloat. I’m thinking going low carb might help.
No matter what, you’d have to address it somehow, and I may even suggest a product like beano.
 
Trying to sound as kind as possible, it was not a factor prior to starting vector. I would hope people do not bring up prior issues while running a supplement. Education is a beautiful thing.
 
Sitting here and not taking vector I have no bloat or gas, imagine that. Might have to look at my diet, lol.
 
Trying to sound as kind as possible, it was not a factor prior to starting vector. I would hope people do not bring up prior issues while running a supplement. Education is a beautiful thing.

Sitting here and not taking vector I have no bloat or gas, imagine that. Might have to look at my diet, lol.

Yes. Because when you add in Vector to your diet, whatever it is, the combination is causing you bloat, and gas. I'm not sure how else to ask you what it is... so I'll stop. You can take Vector, and treat the symptoms of bloat and gas with something as suggested like beano or change your diet to suit a more palatable outcome.

You're one of the few, so that is why I brought up diet as a possibility to being a contributing factor.
 
Thank you. Basic 40/40/20 diet. Decent amount of fiber. Cutting carbs made me pretty tired, maybe low blood sugar from vector? Basics fruit, vegetables, dairy meats, grains. Of course cheat meals here and there.
 
Was taking guthealth. I know reading the posts I have not been the only one experiencing.

One of very few. I found in the first two weeks - my system needed to get used to Vector. I am over the two month mark and loving it. The only way I could take Vector is 1 cap at a time and at 4-6 a day. I still take 1 cap at a time and 2 caps with my largest meal. Have you tried 1 cap and are you still using a probiotic?
 
If your digestive track for instance becomes too alkaline, that could eventually cause bloat and gas. It may well be the GDA qualities of Vector too. The bottom line is to address the symptoms with a potential fix, as you're affected. Diet change, as in less fructose or lactose and see if subtracting certain foods while substituting others that have less of those ingredients. That may help.
 
I feel like even if it caused has the benefits of vector look like they'd outweigh the costs.. like "bro I've gained 10lbs, but I have this uncontrollable flatulation." Sounds like one of those things you'd tell someone, shrug and say "ehh?¿"
 
Vector gave me bloated stomach and crazy gas? Any recommendations to avoid or help? Loved the results but that and having to eat so much killed me. Looking to start it again, lol.

Hey,

Had the same issues. I had also noticed that I was becoming slightly constipated. So I upped my water intake and added in a gut health multi vitamin. A few days later the bloat was gone and everything was back to normal. Still on vector and feeling great. Way more energy and making progress on my cut while keeping calories up.
 
This makes me want to revisit keto, I'm just afraid of loosing muscle because I did the first time I ran it. Maybe when I'm done bulking I'll give it another go.

When running keto you have to make sure to account for the loss of carbs. This means your maintenance cals need to rise a bit and I highly suggest more frequent meals. 6x daily. Dave Palumbo used to walk around in the 280s without carbs.
This is a friend of mine. 0 Carbs for the last 6 months. Hes not huge but hes about 190 lean.
Also no steroids, sarms ph etc.
BLR supps only.
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Vector gave me bloated stomach and crazy gas? Any recommendations to avoid or help? Loved the results but that and having to eat so much killed me. Looking to start it again, lol.

Pre and probiotics. Many times gastro issues stem from our intestinal flora and fauna not being suited to digesting the ingredients. This is why some people have no issues and some do. But optimal intestinal health is important for so many reasons so I suggest at very minimum a probiotic. I like FLora adult probiotic. Cold storage not the dry boxed kind.

Plenty of water. Hydration is ultra important.

Eat with your dosing. This will help the ingredients digest more slowly.

Because anabolic factors are increased you will start to feel more hungry as the body needs to feed the growth. You need to eat more and I realize that this can be uncomfortable but look at it like this. Think about how much time, effort, hard work, money, you have put into muscle building in your life.
Is it worth buckling down for say 8 weeks and adhering to a diet in order to gain 10lbs? I would think 100% of people would say yes.
Make a plan. Meal prep and eat 6x small meals a day. Yes youll have tupper wear containers with you most of the time and youll be eating when other people are not and yes its a chore. 8 weeks of your life is nothing for 10lbs. Eat every 2-3 hours max. 2g protein per lb of bodyweight. 500 cals above current maintenance and increase this another 500 every 3 weeks.
I dont see any reason you cant gain 10lbs solid. Ive walked well over 100 guys through 8-10 week growth diets and Ive never seen someone who adhered and supplemented properly not gain 10+lbs. IN this case you are using Vector which is plenty anabolic.
Hit it hard brother. I want to see you morph.
 
I feel like even if it caused has the benefits of vector look like they'd outweigh the costs.. like "bro I've gained 10lbs, but I have this uncontrollable flatulation." Sounds like one of those things you'd tell someone, shrug and say "ehh?¿"

This is a great point and I want to expand on this a bit. If we go off of the available research regarding Vectors ingredients coupled with the hundreds of positive reports its safe to conclude that Vector is anabolic yes?
Ok
Lets look at just a few of the side effects of most anabolic substances=
Loss of testicular function and testicular atrophy
Increased estrogen
Decreased testosterone
Acne
Hairloss
High blood pressure
Clogged arteries
Liver damage
Psychological changes

Then lets look at Vector.
NONE OF THE ABOVE+
Might make you fart a bit.
Some people need to take with food.

Now granted Vector is not as strong as some of the stronger steroids but there are basically no side effects. People forget that most will take something that is potentially life threatening long term but complain if something gives them gas. Its sort of funny.
My suggestion is deal with the gas and bloating. I dont see this as enough of a side effect to be complaining about. There are OTC pills you can take for gas. Cheap.
 
Thank you. Basic 40/40/20 diet. Decent amount of fiber. Cutting carbs made me pretty tired, maybe low blood sugar from vector? Basics fruit, vegetables, dairy meats, grains. Of course cheat meals here and there.

One more thing. I did an experiment yesterday. I am on keto and wanted to go to the movies so I figured in the snacks I going to buy and shhhhhhh (sneak into the theater)... they were sugar free and mostly stevia sweetened. The thing is, about 30 minutes into the movie I was... ahem, playing the trumpets shall we say?

Abdominal stress / Bloating, and gas. Lots of gas. I think we ignore some of the smaller things we do with our diets that could cause us short term distress that we let go unnoticed. I'm also taking pre-and-probiotics for some time now, and maybe could be drinking more water as well. I think it could also be the foods you are eating that are helping this effect.

This morning. I'm just fine. Mostly. :)
 
One more thing. I did an experiment yesterday. I am on keto and wanted to go to the movies so I figured in the snacks I going to buy and shhhhhhh (sneak into the theater)... they were sugar free and mostly stevia sweetened. The thing is, about 30 minutes into the movie I was... ahem, playing the trumpets shall we say?

Abdominal stress / Bloating, and gas. Lots of gas. I think we ignore some of the smaller things we do with our diets that could cause us short term distress that we let go unnoticed. I'm also taking pre-and-probiotics for some time now, and maybe could be drinking more water as well. I think it could also be the foods you are eating that are helping this effect.

This morning. I'm just fine. Mostly. :)
Ya I think I'm starting to notice low carb protein bars and things with sugar alcohols don't sit well with me. Gonna start eliminating things from my diet and pinpoint foods that cause me Gi distress so maybe I live better more comfortable lifestyle.
 
Its all about perspective.. Gas could be fun.. it all just depends on how much weight you place on other people's judgement of you..
 
Its all about perspective.. Gas could be fun.. it all just depends on how much weight you place on other people's judgement of you..

I spent about $30 on sugar free sh!t (candy) yesterday. The fun part? Bringing it to work and let everyone eat it. It's going to be a real GAS man.

I may partake and crop dust a little myself. :)
 
Just ordered two bottles of Vector aim is to bulk and sleep

Eating 2850-3000cals per day, protein around the 150g per day, training push, pull, legs. Taking creatine, multi vit, omega 3 everyday and pre-work then BCAA's whilst training. Current plan is to take 1 tablet per day with each of my 6 meals.

Open for all your suggestions or comments
 
Just ordered two bottles of Vector aim is to bulk and sleep

Eating 2850-3000cals per day, protein around the 150g per day, training push, pull, legs. Taking creatine, multi vit, omega 3 everyday and pre-work then BCAA's whilst training. Current plan is to take 1 tablet per day with each of my 6 meals.

Open for all your suggestions or comments

Start up a log and we will all chime in and help the best that we can!
 
I have two questions for brundel...

1. in the supplement market, is there a product that marries well with Vector? (apart from your products of course)

2. I take Vector immediately after having finished eating (3 times a day), do you think I am altering its effects?
 
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