VECTOR pre release leaks and info
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bigsmall
Banned
maybe you were able to bomb it more?
bigsmall
Banned
brundel - you have been on Vector for a while I imagine. Does the feeling of well being / euphoria get stronger or occur more often? I am experiencing this euphoria early on and it seems more often and its great...so much so...I started weening down my anti depressent (slowly, but if this keeps up - I won't need it. I would rather use Vector).
HellAtlantic
Member
Ok I’ll bite. What is/are DOMS?
xR1pp3Rx
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ZachH
Banned
Dem ouchy ouchy feels the day after lifting
gphagan1
Legend
Yeah man, the strength gains, pumps, and feeling of well being is awesome. I'm in week 4 and it does seem to be getting even better. Bench, deadlifts and really all lifts going up.....very impressive for an all natural product. So far this is starting to be the best natural supplement I've ever taken, and I've taken a lot.
I know everybody may not respond the same, but I really do believe stacking with FD2 eating big and clean with good carbs, including waxy maize, has been the right combo for me.
TheMovement
Well-known member
DUDE THATS AWESOME!!!
I’m glad so many people are pushing it in their training and actually trying to break new ground! Too often when add in new supplements and barely or don’t change out routines and habits to reflect the very goal we are supplementing towards. Great job everyone!!!
Has no one else tried this before action time with their girl?
jgntyce
Board Sponsor
This right here! I have been on FD2 for about 4 months now with great results. Adding Vector to my FD2 has just made cardio that much easier for me!
DoubleM101
Member
Just curious, scientifically speaking what could be the reason to the vivid dreams?
Since i'm taking Vector, i'm having these crazy dreams like if i was really living it. Sometimes is funny but sometimes i get the feeling i didn't proper rested because i "didn't stop" all night. I know this will sound crazy but it's almost like i'm living two lives... One when i'm awake and other when i'm sleeping.
Since i'm taking Vector, i'm having these crazy dreams like if i was really living it. Sometimes is funny but sometimes i get the feeling i didn't proper rested because i "didn't stop" all night. I know this will sound crazy but it's almost like i'm living two lives... One when i'm awake and other when i'm sleeping.
DEVANS89
Well-known member
Past few nights have had some strange dreams too
but I’d always wake up really fresh like I’d had a really deep sleep
bigsmall
Banned
Finding that if I dose too close to bedtime (after 7pm for sleeping at 11:00om or so), I get vivid dreams. Also I have been dosing 1 cap 6 times and the odd time 2 caps if I am eating 2 meals in a short space. This dosing has all but reduced the vivid dreams and leaves me feeling more well slept.
DoubleM101
Member
I'm dosing 2 at breakfast and 2 at around 3PM before workout... I usually don't sleep before 1/2AM so in my case isn't close to bedtime... Maybe it will subside overtime... Maybe it's due to eating more... or who knows because of a deeper sleep. But honestly i would prefer to not have them.
The Express 42
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Only on day 3 now but starting to notice some of the acute effects.
Positives:
Hunger is up
DOMS for sure, not usually this sore
Vivid dreams, feel so real lol
Increased endurance, workouts have been great (could be placebo at this point)
No sign of the all day muscle fullness yet but like I said less than a week in
Negatives:
Stuffy nose about an hour after dose
Been waking up with a light headache since starting
Worth mentioning I am stacking with Follidrone, Viron, and rebirth. Looking for libido, strength and muscle increase.
Positives:
Hunger is up
DOMS for sure, not usually this sore
Vivid dreams, feel so real lol
Increased endurance, workouts have been great (could be placebo at this point)
No sign of the all day muscle fullness yet but like I said less than a week in
Negatives:
Stuffy nose about an hour after dose
Been waking up with a light headache since starting
Worth mentioning I am stacking with Follidrone, Viron, and rebirth. Looking for libido, strength and muscle increase.
Studhorse
Legend
Sounds Awesome.! Have to agree with you on the best natty supplement!
Studhorse
Legend
I got more vivid dreams from ZMA than with Vector.
brundel
Board Sponsor
I've been on some form of Vector for about 4 months.
The wellbeing seems to be stable for me. Just remember though this isn't meant to treat depression or psych issues. If you feel super good.... Why change things?
dcoen21
Active member
I now have the pump all day feeling as well as euphoria, it reminds me of a protein powder I took called andro nitrate fuel. So far for me vector is a win win no negative sides. I mega dose ursolic acid at night which increases gaba receptors so maybe the added benefit from vector is increasing gaba.
Kaiyas_daddy
Member
On day 14 now, hunger is hitting me hard.noticing it a couple days ago. I’ll usually eat dinner around 5ish. Typically I have a protein bar around 9 (I get those sweet tooth cravings at night) and a shake right before bed around 10. I’m eating two dinners now and a shake before bed. And I’m hungry when I wake up.
At the two week mark And I haven’t seen any fat loss or weight management properties as I’ve put on a bit of weight and I def feel fluffier. I am looking a lot bigger though as I’m bulking. Just with anabeta and folli, I could eat anything in sight and still lean out. I’ve read others say they lean out around the 2.5-3.5 week mark so I’m looking forward to seeing what happens.
At the two week mark And I haven’t seen any fat loss or weight management properties as I’ve put on a bit of weight and I def feel fluffier. I am looking a lot bigger though as I’m bulking. Just with anabeta and folli, I could eat anything in sight and still lean out. I’ve read others say they lean out around the 2.5-3.5 week mark so I’m looking forward to seeing what happens.
brundel
Board Sponsor
This is a great post for a couple reasons.
1. I just like hearing positive reports and that your experiencing the benefits of vector.
2. I like that people see that running it 8 to 12 weeks plus is vastly better than 4. Just like most real anabolics.
3. Most importantly, that when you eat more and bump up carbs enough things really start to roll.
I know I've said it a bunch but... Eat up. Progressive cal increase.
Look at it like this.... Protein synthesis is high. Do you 1. Do nothing and let the body starve while in a highly anabolic state or 2. Feed it a **** ton of protein to build more muscle?
And... Vector is driving glucose into muscles and shuttling it all over. Do you... 1. Wait for hypoglycemia and complain vector makes you tired... Or 2. Carb up and utilize the gda and insulin mimetic properties to your advantage?
Those who run _longer cycles
_With progressive calorie increase
_Moderate to. High csrbs and high protein
_Progressive weight and rep increases
Will see massive growth.
brundel
Board Sponsor
If your dreaming your sleeping so no worries.
Why the vivid dreams... I don't know. If it were a negative I'd probably try to isolate why and find a solution but deep sleep and vivid dreams doesn't sound all that bad
brundel
Board Sponsor
Try a shake before bed. Peanut butter, casein and a slow burning carb. Should help the headache. Also stay ultra hydrated. Urine always clearOnly on day 3 now but starting to notice some of the acute effects.
Positives:
Hunger is up
DOMS for sure, not usually this sore
Vivid dreams, feel so real lol
Increased endurance, workouts have been great (could be placebo at this point)
No sign of the all day muscle fullness yet but like I said less than a week in
Negatives:
Stuffy nose about an hour after dose
Been waking up with a light headache since starting
Worth mentioning I am stacking with Follidrone, Viron, and rebirth. Looking for libido, strength and muscle increase.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Foll is definitely leaner than vector.
I'd say foll is like Winstrol or anavar and vector is more like dbol or androl.
Just in that foll is harder to gain on because you just have to eat so much to overtake its metabolism increase. Lean gains.
Vector is like you just can't stop growing......I have a friend who's on month 3 and has passed the 20lb increase mark. Yes...hes a bit softer... But you'll almost never gain 20 lbs in a few months without a little fluff.
Now.. You don't have to do this. Vector is also a great fat burner. Slow cal increases can be managed and gains will be slower but leaner.
Studhorse
Legend
Spot on!
bigsmall
Banned
Well I have been feeling better and better since also taking less of the anti-depressant. Clearer and more real and in the moment.
machine528
Member
Today is the first day i have said holy crap what's going on. I am losing weight but I am looking bigger, losing weight my reps and weights are going up. I am noticing veins popping out everywhere. My sex drive is thru the roof and mood is amazing ( with enough carbs) when I don't have enough I feel angry and agitated. Like I said only side so far has been gas.
21marine
New member
I can honestly say my mood and overall sense of well being is the best it has been in a long time. Confidence is through the roof and I swear I get stronger as my sets go on. Probably safe to say that Vector has earned a place as one of my staples right alongside creatine.
machine528
Member
I am going to call vector the time machine supplement. When I was 18-22 I could shred up quickly and lean bulk just as fast. I could eat whatever I wanted and still have a six pack. I would wake up and jump out of bed.. the future was exciting and my mood was always great. I believed anything was possible.
I am going on 38. I was in good shape but recovery was slower. I could still workout like an animal but in the morning I could feel it. My mood/alpha feeling was hit or miss. This is week 3 of putting vector into the mix and i feel like i am 21 again. I have never experienced anything like it.
Wimsicle
Well-known member
Biggest thing for me is I have become an absolute beast at work. Whether its the increase of well being, more food I've been consuming, or just overall confidence in myself.. the only thing I have changed entirely is adding Vector and I have been crushing it. I am interested in my work again after contemplating trying to do something else after several years.
Not to mention my workouts have been really good aside from the few dehydrated days.
gphagan1
Legend
Yes...I would say Alpha Male feeling, feeling great throughout the day, and intense focus ready to kill it at the gym.
Spartan lean
New member
I have been on vector almost 4 weeks and after the second week I was sold on BLR so I bought 2 bottles of Follidrone and some of their Amino's to add to the Vector run.
I am 45 years old 6' 1"
Not sure of body fat but fairly lean and stared Vector at 191 lbs and am at 196 now.
I have had zero side effects unless you consider vivid dreams a side effect (they dont wake me up). Wife said I was yelling no last night in my sleep but I dont remember any of that and I woke up felling great..Must have been a good one...
I am usually pretty heavy on stims (caffine, suger free monsters and high stim preworkout everyday) and since using Vector I have found myself using less stims and felling better and more energized than I was All stimed up.
I dose 2 vector and 1 Follidrone 3 times a day at 6am then 12:30pm and 6pm before my workout. I have been substituting pre-workout with the blr aminos and sipping that throughout my work outs. I have put on about 5lbs and leaned out at the same time while drastically increasing calories. I just started a full body workout every other day with cardio and abs on the days in between right when I started Vector. I have been smashing through the workouts adding reps and weight every workout. I will be staying this course of bulking another 4 to 6 weeks then probably cut back some cals for 4 more weeks for a quick cut. Hopefully in the end I will be about 201 lbs and leaner. Time will tell.
On a side note 2 people that see me everyday noticed the size increase already and mentioned it as well as the wife telling me she didnt know what this bulking thing i was doings was but it made my arms bigger...
Thanks again BLR.
I am 45 years old 6' 1"
Not sure of body fat but fairly lean and stared Vector at 191 lbs and am at 196 now.
I have had zero side effects unless you consider vivid dreams a side effect (they dont wake me up). Wife said I was yelling no last night in my sleep but I dont remember any of that and I woke up felling great..Must have been a good one...
I am usually pretty heavy on stims (caffine, suger free monsters and high stim preworkout everyday) and since using Vector I have found myself using less stims and felling better and more energized than I was All stimed up.
I dose 2 vector and 1 Follidrone 3 times a day at 6am then 12:30pm and 6pm before my workout. I have been substituting pre-workout with the blr aminos and sipping that throughout my work outs. I have put on about 5lbs and leaned out at the same time while drastically increasing calories. I just started a full body workout every other day with cardio and abs on the days in between right when I started Vector. I have been smashing through the workouts adding reps and weight every workout. I will be staying this course of bulking another 4 to 6 weeks then probably cut back some cals for 4 more weeks for a quick cut. Hopefully in the end I will be about 201 lbs and leaner. Time will tell.
On a side note 2 people that see me everyday noticed the size increase already and mentioned it as well as the wife telling me she didnt know what this bulking thing i was doings was but it made my arms bigger...
Thanks again BLR.
taylor8461
New member
Mild update for me I'm on my last day of my first bottle and heres what I've noticed:
Increased acne, annoying but I just need to scrub harder lmao.
Hyper increased pumps like on days I do arms they feel like they're gonna split I love it.
Vector really seems to give you a lot of leniency on your diet. It's super easy to lose weight on Vector if thats your goal if you can get past the hunger.
About two of the 4 weeks I've taken it I wasn't eating right and I wasn't training well, despite that I have been making major gains especially in my arms.
I'm back on eating right and training hard so I'm excited to see what progress I can make on my second bottle.
Increased acne, annoying but I just need to scrub harder lmao.
Hyper increased pumps like on days I do arms they feel like they're gonna split I love it.
Vector really seems to give you a lot of leniency on your diet. It's super easy to lose weight on Vector if thats your goal if you can get past the hunger.
About two of the 4 weeks I've taken it I wasn't eating right and I wasn't training well, despite that I have been making major gains especially in my arms.
I'm back on eating right and training hard so I'm excited to see what progress I can make on my second bottle.
Spartan lean
New member
Full body workout has been 2 exercises per body part 3 sets each (varies per workout compound and or isolation). Using dropsets to failure and a rest pause on last sets of all exercises. Its strange how my second sets sometimes feel easier than the first with the same weight causing me to add reps then leading to increased weight.
Sharky666
New member
That's how I like to train: drop sets, rest pause and short rest inbetween the sets.... But for a natty lifter and 36years old getting up in the morning after a workout session is a challange lol
Looking forward to stary Vector next week
love2liftkat
Board Sponsor
Love all of the feedback! I am just over 2 weeks in on taking Vector. I am using during my cut. I have already dropped 5 lbs!! Hunger is not horrible (I’m always hungry anyways so it’s more of a mental battle. 
) Just have a protein shake if it gets bad! Workouts have been great- pump is ridiculous and I usually keep my reps fairly low. So that’s even better! Can really feel the muscles even more engaged during workout. Only negative sides are slight stomach pains shortly after taking and water retention especially in my legs. Hope to use it in a bulk one day!!
) Just have a protein shake if it gets bad! Workouts have been great- pump is ridiculous and I usually keep my reps fairly low. So that’s even better! Can really feel the muscles even more engaged during workout. Only negative sides are slight stomach pains shortly after taking and water retention especially in my legs. Hope to use it in a bulk one day!!
Studhorse
Legend
Love all of the feedback! I am just over 2 weeks in on taking Vector. I am using during my cut. I have already dropped 5 lbs!! Hunger is not horrible (I’m always hungry anyways so it’s more of a mental battle.
For you guys that know love2liftkat her workouts would send most guys home 1/2 way through, Me included!
Think the water retention in the legs is because of the bad hip limiting you?
Studhorse
Legend
It's my go to. vegan sourced 2:1:1 BCAAs,1 gram of HICA and electrolytes cant beat it. I use it 3 times a day. sip on one mid morning at work. use it intra, and one before bed.
the flavor is very light and tasty.
Note: mix it about 15 min. before you drink it. let it sit in the fridge or mix with ice. helps one of the ingredients dissolve all the way.
I have chugged it right after mixing and the light floating residue is a very small amount and doesn't bother me.
mbonheur
Active member
What is the use for it pre bed?
bigsmall
Banned
I am 50 and feel the same way brother. Cheers...
Studhorse
Legend
I wake up feeling better, helps with recovery and growth.
I hit about 15 min. of abs when I wake up 4 times a week. I can tell when I forget to take it pre bed.
Studhorse
Legend
damn your old! lol
Seriously my recovery takes a lot longer than it did in my 20's and early 30's. I respond to a 3 day full body workout as well as a 4-5 day a week these days.
bigsmall
Banned
Just getting started lol...
The Express 42
Well-known member
Would definitely use if it had all EAA’s but BCAA’s alone haven’t been proven to do much
ELROCK
Well-known member
I like having both in there too.