VECTOR pre release leaks and info

jt75 said:
I have now come down with severe restless legs and nausea, hope it's just a flu trying it's best and not any of the ingredients ️
Hot baths and rest today
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Nothing in Vector causes flu symptoms ;)
 
Wimsicle said:
Anyone receive a tub that the seal was broken? Got 2 bottles. One was sealed correct, the other just had the seal sitting on top of the tub but not actually sealed.

Thanks
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They are pressure seals. Sometimes when you remove the top it peels the seal. No worries.
 
UKG said:
Is it possible it would be easier to gain on VECTOR without stacking with fd2? (Given the statement it’s hard to gain mass on fd2).
Would I do better to save the fd for leaning up after?
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I think as long as you increase cals youll be fine.
FD2 has absorption enhancement ingredients that will increase the absorption of Vector so....No reason not to stack.
Keep in mind both can tend to cause hypoglycemia so.....stay eating.
 
ahh123 said:
Well tracking for my parcel with Vector is now saying every day for 7 days in a row, that my parcel left LA distribution center of USPS but no update that parcel ever left LA.

And Strong support is saying wait 2 months to officially declare it lost or stolen before they will tell me I also not gonna get money back for my Vector order.

So with no Vector and no money back I can report Vector giving me also few days of headache without ever taking it.

I didn't think I'll ever say this but now ordering from inside EU will also be my first thought from now on.

It's a pain to pay double price to order from UK but it's still better than not get parcel from US at all.

Maybe brundel could start thinking to sell BLR products through amazon .de or some German distributor and have products shipped from Germany. UK already exited EU so eventually even ordering from UK will get even more expensive and parcel will get stopped by customs.
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Unfortunately I cant be responsible for international customs ;)
We have product going to JW supps soon.
 
taylor8461 said:
7/8 days into Vector. Can say I'm experiencing a lot of muscle fullness, super hard pumps, a big libido increase (I'm 19 so it's already up there), and a crazy amount of hunger. Not really gaining much fat considering all the cheat meals I've been smashing. (Binged and had 3 mchickens and two cheesburgers from mcdonalds last night)
Maybe theres some nutrient partitioning happening here? I feel like my blood flow is just "better" too if that makes any sense.
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Its about to get real man.
 
max silver said:
I'm on day 2 of Vector. Today was my first workout on Vector, I combined it with one capsule of FD 2.0 preworkout with a small snack. If anything, I found that I had less of an endurance kick than usual, as I've been taking 2 capsules of FD 2.0 preworkout previously. Tomorrow I will bump up to my usual 2 capsule dose of FD 2.0 alongside 2 caps of Vector to see how it works out in comparison.

I have noticed an energizing effect from Vector already. I took all 6 caps yesterday in about a 6 hour span last night, and I found it kept me up a little later than usual as I was feeling the extra energy 4-5 hours after my last dose.
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Increase cals. There is corosolic acid, chlorogenic acid, oleanolic acid etc etc in Vector. Combine this with FD2 and holy F man its going to start shuttling pretty much everything you eat into the muscle. So in order to keep blood sugar stable you need to be like 24/7 eating.
I suggest sipping on some fast carbs and BCAAS (amino infusion is on sale for 20$ on our site) during training.
This helped me immensely and I felt much better. FD2 makes me a bit hypo. With the vector it was rough.
This is also likely why guys are getting headaches and strange feelings.
HYPO
 
00A said:
No official write up on website@brundel?
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Over the next few days itll be up.
Exclusively for sale at strong so we didnt want to put up a bunch of info and not be able to sell it to you.
But we will have a page up by Mon with data etc.
 
So for the guys who feel headache and such.
If its related to the product I would think its a glucose thing. These are all hypo symptoms.
This stuff has MAJOR glucose and nutrient shuttling effects. Part of how it works.

1. Eat more than normal
2. Get some fast digesting carbs and some BCAAs and add them to your water bottle. Sip frequently.
You should see the symptoms fade.

;)

And youll see the pumps get better and your muscles fuller....
Ive been adding Carbs, Amino infusion which is 8g bcaa and HICA plus glutamine and creatine to my first bottle of water I drink (64oz)
By the time I get to the gym Im all full of glycogen and creatine and aminos plus the glutamine seems to give even better pumps. Had to lay down on the floor last night during deads because the lower back pump was so bad.
Was like a superdrol back pump.
 
brundel said:
So for the guys who feel headache and such.
If its related to the product I would think its a glucose thing. These are all hypo symptoms.
This stuff has MAJOR glucose and nutrient shuttling effects. Part of how it works.

1. Eat more than normal
2. Get some fast digesting carbs and some BCAAs and add them to your water bottle. Sip frequently.
You should see the symptoms fade.

;)

And youll see the pumps get better and your muscles fuller....
Ive been adding Carbs, Amino infusion which is 8g bcaa and HICA plus glutamine and creatine to my first bottle of water I drink (64oz)
By the time I get to the gym Im all full of glycogen and creatine and aminos plus the glutamine seems to give even better pumps. Had to lay down on the floor last night during deads because the lower back pump was so bad.
Was like a superdrol back pump.
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Hey Brundel once JW get this in I’m getting stuck in to this I’m going to run it solo at first as I like to do that with most things first time that’s how I know fd2.0 is awesome. You mentioned here about adding additional carbs whist taking it. I’m currently eating a ketogenic diet where any of the testers eating low carb or similar type diets? If so how did they respond? If you think it’s a bad idea I will come off keto and go back to glucose based diet.
 
Zippy said:
Hey Brundel once JW get this in I’m getting stuck in to this I’m going to run it solo at first as I like to do that with most things first time that’s how I know fd2.0 is awesome. You mentioned here about adding additional carbs whist taking it. I’m currently eating a ketogenic diet where any of the testers eating low carb or similar type diets? If so how did they respond? If you think it’s a bad idea I will come off keto and go back to glucose based diet.
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I dont know of anyone running a keto diet who ran Vector.
This really depends on how your body responds. If you have been running on fat and protein for a year your body might be able to work around it. If this is an on off thing you might run into issues.
I dont suggest keto when trying to grow thats for sure. Ketogenic is more for guys who really need to lose some fat. Not for guys looking to build muscle.
What are your goals?
How long ahave you been on the keto diet?
 
Thanks for the response I don’t do keto to lose weight I do it because I’m quite sensitive to carbs I crash hard and I prefer the energy levels being steady, I generally drop a couple of pounds in first few weeks probably just water then level out as I keep my cals up and eventually saying that I am aware that building muscle which is going to be my goal in the coming months is far easier to do on carbs than with fats as main source of energy, I have only just dipped back into the keto diet having had 3-4 months on a regular diet(makes life easier over Christmas and such) having done the 8 months before on a keto diet, I would say I gained about 4lb last year on keto so it can be done. I think I may have answered my own question here as I want to gain some quality muscle I will probably stop keto on vector then maybe start back up after a few months.
 
brundel said:
Unfortunately I cant be responsible for international customs ;)
We have product going to JW supps soon.
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How soon is soon?

I'm asking because i got one tub from Strong and everything went great. Fast delivered and no taxes but i'm aware it was an exception and i had very lucky, so i prefer to buy next one in UK.

So... i have one Vector tub and i can't start to take it because i have no idea when it will be available in UK and clearly i want to take it for two straight months, no pauses between.
 
It’s definitely possible but takes a lot of fine tuning to get it right and also the dip in energy and strength at the beginning probably puts people off but in time you can get that back. Electrolyte supplements are a big part energy for me they really help a lot in the beginning, a good thing to do if the strength loss is a big issue is to do gvt program as you drop the weights down anyway for that type of training so your ego isn’t bashed as hard, nobody likes feeling weaker than they were before.
Anyway don’t want to derail this thread talking about diet, I will drop back in when I get my Vector
 
brundel said:
Increase cals. There is corosolic acid, chlorogenic acid, oleanolic acid etc etc in Vector. Combine this with FD2 and holy F man its going to start shuttling pretty much everything you eat into the muscle. So in order to keep blood sugar stable you need to be like 24/7 eating.
I suggest sipping on some fast carbs and BCAAS (amino infusion is on sale for 20$ on our site) during training.
This helped me immensely and I felt much better. FD2 makes me a bit hypo. With the vector it was rough.
This is also likely why guys are getting headaches and strange feelings.
HYPO
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I'm pretty sure I wasn't feeling hypo effects yesterday, as I ate a banana and a homemade oatmeal protein cookie shortly before I started my workout. I've definitely gone hypo on FD 2.0 before, as I found that I was feeling weak and shaky towards the end of my workout if I didn't have some food with my FD 2.0. I do have some waxy maize on the way to try out however, I'll see if it makes any difference to my workouts.
 
Zippy said:
Christ, I couldn’t be arsed eating all those pills every day I would bork
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I don't see if as an issue really. Just put the capsules in the mouth, add water and swallow, pretty easy really. The only issue is keeping track of when to take all of the stuff, for supplements that are twice daily with food it's super easy, but starts to get complicated when it's 3 times daily.
 
brundel said:
I think as long as you increase cals youll be fine.
FD2 has absorption enhancement ingredients that will increase the absorption of Vector so....No reason not to stack.
Keep in mind both can tend to cause hypoglycemia so.....stay eating.
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I got to thinking, perhaps you can include one of these with each bottle of Vector, only with a BLR label instead of course.

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DoubleM101 said:
How soon is soon?

I'm asking because i got one tub from Strong and everything went great. Fast delivered and no taxes but i'm aware it was an exception and i had very lucky, so i prefer to buy next one in UK.

So... i have one Vector tub and i can't start to take it because i have no idea when it will be available in UK and clearly i want to take it for two straight months, no pauses between.
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Should be shipping to them next week.
They will get a few days later.
 
max silver said:
I'm pretty sure I wasn't feeling hypo effects yesterday, as I ate a banana and a homemade oatmeal protein cookie shortly before I started my workout. I've definitely gone hypo on FD 2.0 before, as I found that I was feeling weak and shaky towards the end of my workout if I didn't have some food with my FD 2.0. I do have some waxy maize on the way to try out however, I'll see if it makes any difference to my workouts.
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Yah give it a shot please.
Lets just experiment and see if we can figure out whats happening or why.
 
max silver said:
I'm pretty sure I wasn't feeling hypo effects yesterday, as I ate a banana and a homemade oatmeal protein cookie shortly before I started my workout. I've definitely gone hypo on FD 2.0 before, as I found that I was feeling weak and shaky towards the end of my workout if I didn't have some food with my FD 2.0. I do have some waxy maize on the way to try out however, I'll see if it makes any difference to my workouts.
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Before my workouts I take Vector and FD2,with waxy maize, creatine, and my
pre-workout. The workouts have been great, and had great pumps the first few days.......I'm now in day 7, and think the pumps are actually getting better. Also, no negative side effects.
 
gphagan1 said:
Before my workouts I take Vector and FD2,with waxy maize, creatine, and my
pre-workout. The workouts have been great, and had great pumps the first few days.......I'm now in day 7, and think the pumps are actually getting better. Also, no negative side effects.
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How much waxy maize do you use? I've never used it before, so will need to tweak the amounts to see what suits me.
 
Transformation thread is live guys! For you guys who have already started logging drop a link to your threads there as well!
 
YES!
for you guys who are into it the transformation thread is up!
Going to be epic. Get those cams out and let the games begin!

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Has anyone noticed any sleep problems on Vector? I only ask as supplements seem to impact my sleep super negatively.

I for instance take my 3 follidrone 2.0 upon waking, as taking it later in the day causes me to be very restless while trying to sleep.

Have 3 bottles of Vector turning up this week so very excited to be on board.

I imagine dosing plan will be 2 x follidrone with 3 x vector upon waking (8am), then 1 x follidrone with 3 x vector pre workout (2pm)
 
I don't know how anybody couldn't eat more on this stuff. I have been devouring everything. Hunger kicked in like 2 days after starting. I think this is just what I need to get some more size. Good thing I got 4 tubs of it.

This is my first time using a BLR product and can totally see my self getting on the Folli bandwagon also. Thanks for the innovation brundel....
On a side note muscles feel fuller and more vascular as well as better/longer pumps.
 
All I can say is that Brundel was not kidding about this stuff....and neither am I!

I don’t know if I am responding a bit quicker than other people but today I experienced an undeniable increase in strength during my workout. I would say a legit 15-20% above baseline but it feels like even more than that...it’s difficult to describe. Also feeling extremely alpha during my workouts...awesome!

Unfortunately, I could not fully take advantage of the added strength as my elbow is definitely more tender on pull days (which was today). I could tell the strength was there to shatter my PRs, but I had to hold myself back as I didn’t fully trust my elbow in the long run. Even still...I felt great!

I think one person was complacent about the serving size and/or dosing being a bit cumbersome. I find myself just wanting more and I am disappointed when I realize that I have already had my 6 capsules for the day. :grumble:

I am not exaggerating any of this and I can only imagine what lies ahead!
 
I'm interested as far as cutting/recomp dosing:
3 capsules with PWO meal? (Containing carbs)

The other 3 capsules, can they be spilt with other meals as in 1/1/1 if they all contain carbs?

What's everyone dosing protocol?
 
AdelV said:
I'm interested as far as cutting/recomp dosing:
3 capsules with PWO meal? (Containing carbs)

The other 3 capsules, can they be spilt with other meals as in 1/1/1 if they all contain carbs?

What's everyone dosing protocol?
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I have been doing everything imaginable to be honest...

2, 2, 2
3, 3
2, 1, 1, 2
With or without meals...etc

I can’t really figure out what I like best. I have somewhat determined that any more than 1 capsule immediately before a workout on a semi empty stomach can make me feel slightly lethargic...even though strength is not comromised. Today I did dose a second cap during my workout and my PWO buzz was slightly diminished, but strength just kept building.
 
Ricky10 said:
I have been doing everything imaginable to be honest...

2, 2, 2
3, 3
2, 1, 1, 2
With or without meals...etc

I can’t really figure out what I like best. I have somewhat determined that any more than 1 capsule immediately before a workout on a semi empty stomach can make me feel slightly lethargic...even though strength is not comromised. Today I did dose a second cap during my workout and my PWO buzz was slightly diminished, but strength just kept building.
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Ive been liking 3 on wake up and 3 pwo
 
lilbigman15 said:
Ive been liking 3 on wake up and 3 pwo
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I normally train early
Ricky10 said:
I have been doing everything imaginable to be honest...

2, 2, 2
3, 3
2, 1, 1, 2
With or without meals...etc

I can’t really figure out what I like best. I have somewhat determined that any more than 1 capsule immediately before a workout on a semi empty stomach can make me feel slightly lethargic...even though strength is not comromised. Today I did dose a second cap during my workout and my PWO buzz was slightly diminished, but strength just kept building.
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I was hoping someone had worked it out ?

If it has GDA properties, I figured it'd be ideal to take 1 capsule with every meal.
 
lilbigman15 said:
Ive been liking 3 on wake up and 3 pwo
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That would be a lot of Vector in my system....I like to workout early :D
AdelV said:
I normally train early

I was hoping someone had worked it out ��

If it has GDA properties, I figured it'd be ideal to take 1 capsule with every meal.
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Yeah, I try to take at least half of my pills before a meal for that reason.
6 capsules is not enough for me because I like to take some before I do everything..haha!
 
Are all of the ingredients plant based? As someone who doesn't respond to plants (I've tried all the popular ones for libido) I'm wondering if this will be any different.
 
I don’t understand why Follidrone would give you lean gains, and be better for cutting up. If Epi and ecklonia cava reduce Myostatin which put ahold on muscle size. It literally sounds like it would be the best size add on aside from exogenous hormones.
 
Stanfoo said:
Are all of the ingredients plant based? As someone who doesn't respond to plants (I've tried all the popular ones for libido) I'm wondering if this will be any different.
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I've read some of your other posts. You're focused on libido and loads..and jiz.
Don't take this if your intent is to increase your libido.

You chastised someone for stating the facts on vitamin E, and you recommended mega dosing it.
Please don't bring that level of discussion into this thread.

Pharmaceuticals are more often plant based as their constituents are extracted from plants.
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Hang out for various logs on the product to see how others respond to it.
There will be a number of threads on the topic.
 
Stanfoo said:
Are all of the ingredients plant based? As someone who doesn't respond to plants (I've tried all the popular ones for libido) I'm wondering if this will be any different.
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I agree with other poster, this bodybuilding forum, you need a sexual health forum for what exactly you trying to achieve.. lot your posts also show how uneducated you are in such matters.. so do some research first
 
Today was day 8 on vector for me. I am taking it alongside ArA. I defenitly notice increased well being, great pump, Fuller muscles, and more energy/strength at the gym.
 
AdelV said:
I normally train early

I was hoping someone had worked it out ��

If it has GDA properties, I figured it'd be ideal to take 1 capsule with every meal.
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I have been doing 2,2,2

first 2 immediately upon waking 530 a.m. , 2 at 1130a.m. and the last 2 at 430p.m. pre workout! I love the last dosing being pretty close and get amazing strength and pumps from it thus far!
 
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