My bad, dude -- didn't see that (all of these threads keep running together lol).
I don't know of a specific dosing protocol, but I can tell you with the current batch of AlphaBurn, I'm only using it pre-workout on an empty stomach. The few times I dosed it additionally outside of that, I just got the cold sweats lol. Like it much better when working out. Vanillean, I've always just used specifically based on the label directions.
Not sure if
dsade has a specific protocol he likes to utilize, but I don't ever recall seeing one for the two in conjunction outside the general directions.