USPLabs new-High ORAC value-selective inhibitor of 11b-hydroxysteroid

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this ain't about the product being good or bad, its about the gimmick of generating hysteria that guarantees massive placebo effect and then handing out samples.

this is not a beta test. its a marketing trick and tons of companies do it on the boards

No offense, Pat, but you're pointing out the obvious. And this gimmick has been out there long before internet forums. Ever watch an infomercial?
 
this stuff looks legit, im definately down. ive been wanting to try AP and Pslin for a while, but im broke at the time being. when i get the cash i definately plan on trying those.


not a single bit of information on the ingredients and you have concluded it looks legit?

what you really mean to say is you are impressed by the marketing. you know nothing about the product yet
 
No offense, Pat, but you're pointing out the obvious. And this gimmick has been out there long before internet forums. Ever watch an infomercial?

its different. in an infomercial they don't have freebies. and infomercials are not interactive.
 
not a single bit of information on the ingredients and you have concluded it looks legit?

what you really mean to say is you are impressed by the marketing. you know nothing about the product yet

i suppose legit wasn't the right wording for it. i have personal friends that have tried USP labs supplements, and they have worked for them exceptionally better for them than the majority of other ones they have used, and i have read good reviews for some of there other supplements as well, and based off of the knowledge that some of there others do work, i assumed this one may be the same.
 
While you're correct too sinner, PA made a valid statement, and it honestly wasn't out of line.

Oh, by no means was I trying to say he was out of line. To me at least, it seemed like that should have been assumed. In retrospect, I guess some people don't understand how little credible value is held by anecdotal data.
 
Jacobs product will be competing with 11oxo for market share, so I can see why Pat is interested.

yes, i read up on what my competitors are doing.

and in the course of reading sometimes i see things that irritate me

and i say something

and the significance really does not go beyond that
 
I know how you feel. We have a tendency to talk more sh*t when we're on these kinds of forums, than in real life because the worst thing that's gonna happen is a proceding post with censored words in it.
 
I am pretty interested also, cant wait to see more info. Pat, I have been on procaine hci for awhile and really like it, have you done any reading on it, like to here what you think about it.
 
I am pretty interested also, cant wait to see more info. Pat, I have been on procaine hci for awhile and really like it, have you done any reading on it, like to here what you think about it.

yeah, ronald reagan used to take that stuff. i never really ever heard anyone get much from it. i tried it back in the early 90s without any noticeable effect
 
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