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USPLABS-JACK3D MICRO

thebigt said:
i have no explanation at all for why that might have happened.....lets see if borobuilder chimes in with a cause!!!
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I'd love to figure this out because like I said in a previous post, Micro gave me incredible endurance & pumps on my 2nd use... I'm not giving up on it as it is without a doubt a solid product, but there must be some factor that resulted in me feeling no effects...
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Daily big man. The endurance/pump from it is solid. The mental bump is lacking though and we both enjoy that!!
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YOU KNOW THATS RIGHT...i have ran out a few days ago, how many tubs did you get?
 
BLaQz said:
I'd love to figure this out because like I said in a previous post, Micro gave me incredible endurance & pumps on my 2nd use... I'm not giving up on it as it is without a doubt a solid product, but there must be some factor that resulted in me feeling no effects...
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i even read on usplabs website where it mentioned stacking og with micro!!! give it another go and see what happens!!!
 
Only 1 and might have 2 more days left in it.
 
BLaQz said:
Didn't work again... I actually feel tired instead... Wtf?
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I mentioned this happening to me in the Alpha thread. Nobody seemed to pick up on it.
 
Piston Honda said:
I mentioned this happening to me in the Alpha thread. Nobody seemed to pick up on it.
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This is the 2nd time & I'm pretty disappointed to say the least... Kinda ruined my day because of the high hopes for the product... No one picked up on it possibly because they're puzzled by it also... I'm putting together my own PWO over the next few weeks or so...

Did you also feel tired after taking it?
 
Tired, unmotivated, no pump or endurance noticeable. Only USP product that let me down.
 
Sorry to hear that, although I'm glad I'm not the only one who's felt that effect. I'm really trying to understand what's in that blend that's causing it.
 
Piston Honda said:
Sorry to hear that, although I'm glad I'm not the only one who's felt that effect. I'm really trying to understand what's in that blend that's causing it.
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I just had another good look at the ingredients & I have a feeling it's got something to do with the caffeine... I think it can give the crash effect if you're dehydrated, not well fed or not well rested... Also some people metabolise caffeine differently to others, people with fast metabolisms(me) process it so quick it leads almost straight to a crash, & there isn't a whole heap of caffeine in Micro... Even in the 2 scoops I take...
 
Nitrates guys. Some people have this reaction to them. I am not versed on the mechanisms of how they work but, this can happen with some people. I myself had good endurance and a nice pump from Micro but absolutely no mental stimulation.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Nitrates guys. Some people have this reaction to them. I am not versed on the mechanisms of how they work but, this can happen with some people. I myself had good endurance and a nice pump from Micro but absolutely no mental stimulation.
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I had one awesome workout last week off it though, every time after that sucked balls...
 
Would have been my guess too, but ConDense doesn't treat me like that at all and that's heavy on the nitrates.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Nitrates guys. Some people have this reaction to them. I am not versed on the mechanisms of how they work but, this can happen with some people. I myself had good endurance and a nice pump from Micro but absolutely no mental stimulation.
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Something along the lines of "Methemoglobinemia"?
 
Piston Honda said:
Would have been my guess too, but ConDense doesn't treat me like that at all and that's heavy on the nitrates.
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Only thing I could guess here is that Condense has a 200mg caffeine shot per scoop in it. Micro I'm unsure of it's caffeine content.
 
What I find is nitrates are great if taken daily just not right before a workout unless you load on stims to counter the sleepy effect of it.
 
The last 2x I took Micro, I took a scoop of Jack3d OG along with it... So I don't get it because that's got heavy stims...
 
BLaQz said:
The last 2x I took Micro, I took a scoop of Jack3d OG along with it... So I don't get it because that's got heavy stims...
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You have to remember tolerance along with brain chemistry plays a role, you could try adding subthialamine to the mix or schizandra. You could also try adding ALCAR to the mix. The key is promote alertness and a rise in adrenaline.
 
thebigt said:
it could be how you react to nitrates...does your bp run low?
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Mine was 120/60 at my physical last week.
 
BLaQz said:
It did great things for me last week... This time I took it with some OG Jack3d & nothing at all...
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I wouldn't add the OG Jack3d with Micro. More isn't always better. They have very different MOA's and were were designed specifically as their own entity. Try mixing a scoop of Modern BCAA with Micro about 30 minutes prior to training. The sustamine may improve the effectiveness of this product.
 
Distilled Water said:
Just read this thread. After almost an entire container myself. I can't argue with much if anything you said bigT.

It seems like you and I get picked for a few logs of the same products? Are we a package deal? (No homo)
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it is my honor...dw!!! i think we both choose very carefully the products we are really interested in to put aps in for, unlike some who put in aps for every opportunity!!!
 
diezel said:
I wouldn't add the OG Jack3d with Micro. More isn't always better. They have very different MOA's and were were designed specifically as their own entity. Try mixing a scoop of Modern BCAA with Micro about 30 minutes prior to training. The sustamine may improve the effectiveness of this product.
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I'll try it with a serve of MP Amino1... It's got pretty much the same ingredient profile as Modern BCAA... That's going to be a tasty drink...
 
BLaQz said:
I'll try it with a serve of MP Amino1... It's got pretty much the same ingredient profile as Modern BCAA...
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pretty much what i would do...experiment till i found the right mix that worked best for me....
 
BLaQz said:
This is the 2nd time & I'm pretty disappointed to say the least... Kinda ruined my day because of the high hopes for the product... No one picked up on it possibly because they're puzzled by it also... I'm putting together my own PWO over the next few weeks or so...

Did you also feel tired after taking it?
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By any chance have you been using preworkouts or any other stimulant based products for more than 8 weeks? Maybe take a break for a bit then try it again?
 
newbreed said:
By any chance have you been using preworkouts or any other stimulant based products for more than 8 weeks? Maybe take a break for a bit then try it again?
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Nope... I came off a 3-4 break up until 2 weeks ago... Not a voluntary break mind you... Delivery time from the States had me waiting lol... Had some Superpump Max prior to the break... I don't drink coffee or energy drinks either... Water or Gatorade only...
 
thebigt said:
right on....just had to find the right mix for you!!!
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Yeah bro... Like I said a while back, the ingredients speak for themselves... I actually used the larger scoop from my OG Jack3d instead of the micro scoop(so not quite 2 scoops of Micro this time, more like 1.5 scoops) simply because there's Citrulline Malate, nitrates, L-taurine plus others in the MP Amino1, & it hit the right spot this time... The endurance was there when I needed it, but when I was ready to just chill post workout I was feeling just right... Not itching to over do it or anything, but still ready for anything... If you get a chance, try either Modern BCAA or Amino1 with Micro... It's a very pleasant experience...
 
BLaQz said:
Yeah bro... Like I said a while back, the ingredients speak for themselves... I actually used the larger scoop from my OG Jack3d instead of the micro scoop(so not quite 2 scoops of Micro this time, more like 1.5 scoops) simply because there's Citrulline Malate, nitrates, L-taurine plus others in the MP Amino1, & it hit the right spot this time... The endurance was there when I needed it, but when I was ready to just chill post workout I was feeling just right... Not itching to over do it or anything, but still ready for anything... If you get a chance, try either Modern BCAA or Amino1 with Micro... It's a very pleasant experience...
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thanks!!! that's what i like about this forum, the sharing of info!!!!
 
I feel u man... "broscience" doesn't exist here... Only real world experience up in here... I love it too...
 
So the MP Amino1/Jack3d Micro mix is perfect for me... I went back to 2 full scoops of Micro this time... Cleanest consistent energy ever... Not exaggerating at all... There are times you forget you have anything in your system until you perform those last perfect reps with almost no effort or muscle fatigue...
 
BLaQz said:
So the MP Amino1/Jack3d Micro mix is perfect for me... I went back to 2 full scoops of Micro this time... Cleanest consistent energy ever... Not exaggerating at all... There are times you forget you have anything in your system until you perform those last perfect reps with almost no effort or muscle fatigue...
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that is amazing...usually taking amino's with a pre workout will blunt the stim effect of the pre, but i was looking at usp's site and they recommend using modern bcaa's with micro......micro sure is a bird of different feathers, lol.
 
thebigt said:
that is amazing...usually taking amino's with a pre workout will blunt the stim effect of the pre, but i was looking at usp's site and they recommend using modern bcaa's with micro......micro sure is a bird of different feathers, lol.
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They definitely compliment eachother... The BCAA's don't quite blunt the stim effect, It's like the BCAA's keep the extreme side of micro(the sweats & general restlessness) at bay until needed, & gives extra help with muscle fatigue, endurance & even hydration at the same time...
 
I love mixing My BCAAs with Micro especially when i train fasted. Never noticed a difference with Micro when taking with or without BCAAs but that's me.
 
i think the reason they say that bcaa's blunt the stim effect is because bcaa's cause a insulin bump, but just guessing, not sure????
 
thebigt said:
i think the reason they say that bcaa's blunt the stim effect is because bcaa's cause a insulin bump, but just guessing, not sure????
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Thing is is you got to remember I don't really care for stims, so my enjoyment of the mix is likely partly because of that...
 
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