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Is the Leaning upright row a rear delt stretch movement? Interesting.Early morning push
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Is the Leaning upright row a rear delt stretch movement? Interesting.Early morning push
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Those are pretty good numbers on the side DB raise with a bum shoulder. I'm doing 7.5lbs on the cable with a slight bent over lateral raise lol. I do like 25-30ish reps or so but it feels good and creates a nice pump.
I dont actually get much shoulder pain on pushing exercises (unless I go really low like when I have to get the original weight to the starting position on a machine) but more on pulling exercises. Anything like wide grip pull downs or pull ups is usually the worst.
I really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.
Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
Definately middle and front delt. Basically, I grab onto a bar or post or machine with one hand and I have my feet almost as close to that, so I can extend my arm and i'm leaning out to the side. That way when I pull for an upright row I can go in a straight-up-and-down motion. It's literally perfectly straight up and perfectly straight down and it doesn't bother my shoulders at all. It feels really good.Is the Leaning upright row a rear delt stretch movement? Interesting.
I notice if I keep the slight bend in the elbow and try to keep the elbow higher than the hand it prevents me from being able to engage trap. My medial delts r so disproportionate to my traps. It is hard for me not to engage trap as side delts r so weakI really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.
Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
100% I always do my side laterals with a bend in the arms. If I keep my arms completely straight out to the sides. I don't feel any muscles working I just feel grinding in my shoulders.I really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.
Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
The shoulder doesn't hurt at all and there's only a loss of strength on pushing movements. I can Do all other shoulder exercises that are not oppressed with maximum load. No problems at all. So I guess I would say complete opposite of your shoulders. But the thing is like I said it doesn't hurt to press. Between this log and my other thread. People keep talking about my shoulder pain and I don't have any shoulder pain. My adjustments are strength related, there is zero pain issuesThose are pretty good numbers on the side DB raise with a bum shoulder. I'm doing 7.5lbs on the cable with a slight bent over lateral raise lol. I do like 25-30ish reps or so but it feels good and creates a nice pump.
I dont actually get much shoulder pain on pushing exercises (unless I go really low like when I have to get the original weight to the starting position on a machine) but more on pulling exercises. Anything like wide grip pull downs or pull ups is usually the worst.
No, i dont do much For rear delts. They get a boat load of work on my back day or my pull day from chins and rows. I've never really learned how to isolate them but enough. And I don't really need to, because they're pretty well-balanced with everything else. They're definitely not a weak pointYou ever try barbell face pulls? I have worked them in last 2 weeks. Had never done them b4 so it’s a new way to get a pump I guess
Definately middle and front delt. Basically, I grab onto a bar or post or machine with one hand and I have my feet almost as close to that, so I can extend my arm and i'm leaning out to the side. That way when I pull for an upright row I can go in a straight-up-and-down motion. It's literally perfectly straight up and perfectly straight down and it doesn't bother my shoulders at all. It feels really good.
So i'm not leaning forward i'm leaning directly to the side. I wish it was easy to upload videos here. I would put videos up all the time.
Yeah, I would really like too see the form. Rear delt flies stretch the rear delts pretty good and even facepulls are a decent contraction movement. The Leaning lat raises are an awesome side delt stretch. Something that stretches the front delts is a new movement for me.Towards the end of last year, my back grew quite a bit as a whole and most of it was just from doing weighted Pull ups and body weight pull ups. I was doing super high frequency lat work. I think i talked aboutbit in my regular log
( Did I say it stretches the front delt?) I'm not being a smart ass i'm genuinely asking I don't remember lol, Theres not much of a stretch Because you'd have to lift some pretty heavy weight in my mind to stretch it. Honestly I don't even know if the name I said (leaning upright row) is a real exercise. It's just what I call it. It's a modification I use to get an angle that I feel works better for me. There's nothing special about it that I know of, it's just something I do.Yeah, I would really like too see the form. Rear delt flies stretch the rear delts pretty good and even facepulls are a decent contraction movement. The Leaning lat raises are an awesome side delt stretch. Something that stretches the front delts is a new movement for me.
The shoulder doesn't hurt at all and there's only a loss of strength on pushing movements. I can Do all other shoulder exercises that are not oppressed with maximum load. No problems at all. So I guess I would say complete opposite of your shoulders. But the thing is like I said it doesn't hurt to press. Between this log and my other thread. People keep talking about my shoulder pain and I don't have any shoulder pain. My adjustments are strength related, there is zero pain issues
Well in POF the upright row was always counted as a delt stretch movement. I never was sure what muscle it was stretching(kinda assumed it was rear delts). If it is front delts, I need to put them back in. You did say you were feeling it there.( Did I say it stretches the front delt?) I'm not being a smart ass i'm genuinely asking I don't remember lol, Theres not much of a stretch Because you'd have to lift some pretty heavy weight in my mind to stretch it. Honestly I don't even know if the name I said (leaning upright row) is a real exercise. It's just what I call it. It's a modification I use to get an angle that I feel works better for me. There's nothing special about it that I know of, it's just something I do.
Any exercise i dont feel Where i'm supposed to feel it, i modify it. It's my replacement exercise for an upright row.
Maybe im confusing myself lol. I make a lot of quick responces at work.Well in POF the upright row was always counted as a delt stretch movement. I never was sure what muscle it was stretching(kinda assumed it was rear delts). If it is front delts, I need to put them back in. You did say you were feeling it there.
No progress pics till the end of the first bottle lolPussy pic. Lmaooo
I'll try these(not with 70s haha) and see how it feels. We're not in disagreement BTW. I didn't feel like the barbell upright rows were a stretch movement either. I used to do them before Shrugs.Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
Imagine that thing in my hand is a DB
Tonight im having a big cheat dinner with my family and tomorrow i will step on the scale, mark week 1. Complete and go for a run.
The only time i really feel a strerch in my shoulders is a farmers walk or weighted chins wnen i go into a full hang.I'll try these(not with 70s haha) and see how it feels. We're not in disagreement BTW. I didn't feel like the barbell upright rows were a stretch movement either. I used to do them before Shrugs.
Ive done a few exercises at that angle, im always trying to slightly tweak things to feel them better. Charles glass is big on making slight adjustments to a exercise to target certain areas. I actually try not to watch his videos too much or il start making too many changes lol.I like to do leaning shrugs using that same stance.
That looks pretty dang tasty!Week 1, dispite last nights dinner Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
The bottom picture was so good i ordered a seccond on to go lol. I also had a eclair.
But...... week 1 in the book and im down 1.6lbs.
It's butter chicken curry, The orange looking chicken with the vegetables dish is called chicken sixty five, I don't actually know what it is, but it's amazing. The other thing is like a pork rotni or something. That one is more like indian street foodThat looks pretty dang tasty!
My weakness is oreos and poptarts, @Hyde always cracks when i say cheat meal, but his jokes are actually right on the money. When i screw up, it usually involves An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal.Saturday or Sunday nights are my big cheat meals. Last night I binged on mexicanChips and Salsa are my weakness.
The Pop Tart strawberry milkshake is back. Love those frozenMy weakness is oreos and poptarts, @Hyde always cracks when i say cheat meal, but his jokes are actually right on the money. When i screw up, it usually involves An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal.![]()
My weakness is oreos and poptarts, @Hyde always cracks when i say cheat meal, but his jokes are actually right on the money. When i screw up, it usually involves An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal.![]()

While i sit in my pajamas at 2am covered in crumbsThey say you don’t really know a man, until you know what he eats when he goes off the rails, or something![]()
An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal.
LolWhen I got out of basic training I did this with those cups of mini sized oreos and nutter butters, just added milk and, for whatever reason, peanut butter to the oreos. No regerts. Not even a letter.
Nutter Butters! The peanut butter cookie shaped like a peanut. No “regerts” here either Scottie P. LmaoWhen I got out of basic training I did this with those cups of mini sized oreos and nutter butters, just added milk and, for whatever reason, peanut butter to the oreos. No regerts. Not even a letter.
I ment to throw those in this morming but i think im gonma do that after farmers walks on pull wedensdayI like to do leaning shrugs using that same stance.
Just to clarify, i also cant do that exercise with a 70lb db, not even close. I mean, I could like it up there for some real sloppy rips but I probably just rip my shoulder out the socket or tear something.I'll try these(not with 70s haha) and see how it feels. We're not in disagreement BTW. I didn't feel like the barbell upright rows were a stretch movement either. I used to do them before Shrugs.
Nice Wok! Authentic cuisineKids wanted chinese food so I said **** it I'll make it myself.
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Mongolian beef and Broccoli
Im actually about do for a new one, one of my kids bent it. Still works fine but i wanna get a real nice one.Nice Wok! Authentic cuisine
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Imagine that thing in my hand is a DB
Forget the dumbbell, I want to see you do the raises with the cat in your hand haha![]()
I can do them with the orange cat but idk if i can with thie other oneOn the subject of shoulders and lateral raises and such - an exercise I like a lot and I think helped me a lot with recovering from my broken shoulder, is Poliquin raises.
I have no idea how to explain them in writing, but the best I can is start with hands in a hammer curl position with the elbows at 90 degrees, then do a lateral raise taking 2 seconds up, then straighten arms out and try for a 4 second down - with the bottom coming back to the hammer curl/90 degree bend position.
For anyone that hasn't tried these, form is everything. Forget how much weight you can do, focus on perfect form and increase from there.