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Smont said:
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Those are pretty good numbers on the side DB raise with a bum shoulder. I'm doing 7.5lbs on the cable with a slight bent over lateral raise lol. I do like 25-30ish reps or so but it feels good and creates a nice pump.

I dont actually get much shoulder pain on pushing exercises (unless I go really low like when I have to get the original weight to the starting position on a machine) but more on pulling exercises. Anything like wide grip pull downs or pull ups is usually the worst.
 
Stacks1 said:
Those are pretty good numbers on the side DB raise with a bum shoulder. I'm doing 7.5lbs on the cable with a slight bent over lateral raise lol. I do like 25-30ish reps or so but it feels good and creates a nice pump.

I dont actually get much shoulder pain on pushing exercises (unless I go really low like when I have to get the original weight to the starting position on a machine) but more on pulling exercises. Anything like wide grip pull downs or pull ups is usually the worst.
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I really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.

Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
 
Hyde said:
I really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.

Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
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Definitely. I'm always focused in my mind on pulling up with my elbow. If I don't have the bend I feel like I use more hand/wrist/forearms and lose that tension on the deltoid.
 
SBH said:
Is the Leaning upright row a rear delt stretch movement? Interesting.
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Definately middle and front delt. Basically, I grab onto a bar or post or machine with one hand and I have my feet almost as close to that, so I can extend my arm and i'm leaning out to the side. That way when I pull for an upright row I can go in a straight-up-and-down motion. It's literally perfectly straight up and perfectly straight down and it doesn't bother my shoulders at all. It feels really good.

So i'm not leaning forward i'm leaning directly to the side. I wish it was easy to upload videos here. I would put videos up all the time.
 
Hyde said:
I really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.

Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
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I notice if I keep the slight bend in the elbow and try to keep the elbow higher than the hand it prevents me from being able to engage trap. My medial delts r so disproportionate to my traps. It is hard for me not to engage trap as side delts r so weak
 
If i'm training Rear delts on a push pull legs split I'm always doing rear delts on pull and Middle and side with push.
 
Hyde said:
I really like the slight bend in the elbow for side raises. I didn’t realize how much better it actually keeps tension in the side delt that way, until I saw a video from Dr. Todd Lee showing how he does them bent and with a cable, and only going high enough that it stays in the delt - if you keep going up, you are just loading traps.

Which my ART guy wants me to avoid, because if my traps get tight they just bind up my shoulder mechanics for benching, and I need medial delt size more than bigger traps. My traps grow plenty from gear and deadlifts.
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100% I always do my side laterals with a bend in the arms. If I keep my arms completely straight out to the sides. I don't feel any muscles working I just feel grinding in my shoulders.
 
You ever try barbell face pulls? I have worked them in last 2 weeks. Had never done them b4 so it’s a new way to get a pump I guess
 
Stacks1 said:
Those are pretty good numbers on the side DB raise with a bum shoulder. I'm doing 7.5lbs on the cable with a slight bent over lateral raise lol. I do like 25-30ish reps or so but it feels good and creates a nice pump.

I dont actually get much shoulder pain on pushing exercises (unless I go really low like when I have to get the original weight to the starting position on a machine) but more on pulling exercises. Anything like wide grip pull downs or pull ups is usually the worst.
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The shoulder doesn't hurt at all and there's only a loss of strength on pushing movements. I can Do all other shoulder exercises that are not oppressed with maximum load. No problems at all. So I guess I would say complete opposite of your shoulders. But the thing is like I said it doesn't hurt to press. Between this log and my other thread. People keep talking about my shoulder pain and I don't have any shoulder pain. My adjustments are strength related, there is zero pain issues
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
You ever try barbell face pulls? I have worked them in last 2 weeks. Had never done them b4 so it’s a new way to get a pump I guess
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No, i dont do much For rear delts. They get a boat load of work on my back day or my pull day from chins and rows. I've never really learned how to isolate them but enough. And I don't really need to, because they're pretty well-balanced with everything else. They're definitely not a weak point
 
Towards the end of last year, my back grew quite a bit as a whole and most of it was just from doing weighted Pull ups and body weight pull ups. I was doing super high frequency lat work. I think i talked aboutbit in my regular log
 
Smont said:
Definately middle and front delt. Basically, I grab onto a bar or post or machine with one hand and I have my feet almost as close to that, so I can extend my arm and i'm leaning out to the side. That way when I pull for an upright row I can go in a straight-up-and-down motion. It's literally perfectly straight up and perfectly straight down and it doesn't bother my shoulders at all. It feels really good.

So i'm not leaning forward i'm leaning directly to the side. I wish it was easy to upload videos here. I would put videos up all the time.
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Smont said:
Towards the end of last year, my back grew quite a bit as a whole and most of it was just from doing weighted Pull ups and body weight pull ups. I was doing super high frequency lat work. I think i talked aboutbit in my regular log
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Yeah, I would really like too see the form. Rear delt flies stretch the rear delts pretty good and even facepulls are a decent contraction movement. The Leaning lat raises are an awesome side delt stretch. Something that stretches the front delts is a new movement for me.
 
SBH said:
Yeah, I would really like too see the form. Rear delt flies stretch the rear delts pretty good and even facepulls are a decent contraction movement. The Leaning lat raises are an awesome side delt stretch. Something that stretches the front delts is a new movement for me.
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( Did I say it stretches the front delt?) I'm not being a smart ass i'm genuinely asking I don't remember lol, Theres not much of a stretch Because you'd have to lift some pretty heavy weight in my mind to stretch it. Honestly I don't even know if the name I said (leaning upright row) is a real exercise. It's just what I call it. It's a modification I use to get an angle that I feel works better for me. There's nothing special about it that I know of, it's just something I do.

Any exercise i dont feel Where i'm supposed to feel it, i modify it. It's my replacement exercise for an upright row.
 
Im gonna ask my kids to Set me up a new email address and link it to youtube so i can jave a channel. Not really a channel, It will just be somewhere I can upload videos so I can share them, I guess It would also help me track my progress. Don't quote me on that, first they gotta do it for me, im techtarded.

I have a key to the gym too. So I could set up and do stuff on my own And no one would even know lol
 
Smont said:
The shoulder doesn't hurt at all and there's only a loss of strength on pushing movements. I can Do all other shoulder exercises that are not oppressed with maximum load. No problems at all. So I guess I would say complete opposite of your shoulders. But the thing is like I said it doesn't hurt to press. Between this log and my other thread. People keep talking about my shoulder pain and I don't have any shoulder pain. My adjustments are strength related, there is zero pain issues
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Ah I see. It's interesting because I can actually do overhead presses without any pain in my shoulder, however because my left shoulder hurts on other exercises and such, I lost some strength and probably favored my right shoulder more. So now on overhead presses my left shoulder fails well before my right. But it's the pulling movements that cause pain in the shoulder, especially any overhead pulling.
 
Smont said:
( Did I say it stretches the front delt?) I'm not being a smart ass i'm genuinely asking I don't remember lol, Theres not much of a stretch Because you'd have to lift some pretty heavy weight in my mind to stretch it. Honestly I don't even know if the name I said (leaning upright row) is a real exercise. It's just what I call it. It's a modification I use to get an angle that I feel works better for me. There's nothing special about it that I know of, it's just something I do.

Any exercise i dont feel Where i'm supposed to feel it, i modify it. It's my replacement exercise for an upright row.
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Well in POF the upright row was always counted as a delt stretch movement. I never was sure what muscle it was stretching(kinda assumed it was rear delts). If it is front delts, I need to put them back in. You did say you were feeling it there.
 
SBH said:
Well in POF the upright row was always counted as a delt stretch movement. I never was sure what muscle it was stretching(kinda assumed it was rear delts). If it is front delts, I need to put them back in. You did say you were feeling it there.
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Maybe im confusing myself lol. I make a lot of quick responces at work.

To clarify, i feel the front delt and a little side delt, i dont feel much of a stretch. I just grabbed a 70lb db and because its too heavy I can feel the stretch, What were the working weight, Most likely not. The upright row techincally can hit the traps, All three heads of the delt and the bicep.

Hold on, I'm on my way to dinner but i'm gonna take a picture real quick
 
Smont said:
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Imagine that thing in my hand is a DB
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I'll try these(not with 70s haha) and see how it feels. We're not in disagreement BTW. I didn't feel like the barbell upright rows were a stretch movement either. I used to do them before Shrugs.
 
Smont said:
Tonight im having a big cheat dinner with my family and tomorrow i will step on the scale, mark week 1. Complete and go for a run.
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Saturday or Sunday nights are my big cheat meals. Last night I binged on mexican :ROFLMAO: Chips and Salsa are my weakness.
 
SBH said:
I'll try these(not with 70s haha) and see how it feels. We're not in disagreement BTW. I didn't feel like the barbell upright rows were a stretch movement either. I used to do them before Shrugs.
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The only time i really feel a strerch in my shoulders is a farmers walk or weighted chins wnen i go into a full hang.

The pof workouts, are those like the ones they used to have in iron man mag every month? Cus i use to do those, there were always certain exercises i had trouble feeling the stretch. But i would do them anyways. I still use some principals from those iron man workouts. Like starting with the power move like bench, then a stretch position like db flies and a isolation like a cable crossover for high reps to get a big pump at the end.
 
akboom87 said:
I like to do leaning shrugs using that same stance.
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Ive done a few exercises at that angle, im always trying to slightly tweak things to feel them better. Charles glass is big on making slight adjustments to a exercise to target certain areas. I actually try not to watch his videos too much or il start making too many changes lol.

Next time i do these upright rows il superset them with a shrug and see how it feels.
 
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The bottom picture was so good i ordered a seccond on to go lol. I also had a eclair.

But...... week 1 in the book and im down 1.6lbs.
 
Smont said:
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The bottom picture was so good i ordered a seccond on to go lol. I also had a eclair.

But...... week 1 in the book and im down 1.6lbs.
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That looks pretty dang tasty!
 
akboom87 said:
That looks pretty dang tasty!
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It's butter chicken curry, The orange looking chicken with the vegetables dish is called chicken sixty five, I don't actually know what it is, but it's amazing. The other thing is like a pork rotni or something. That one is more like indian street food
 
LeanEngineer said:
Saturday or Sunday nights are my big cheat meals. Last night I binged on mexican :ROFLMAO: Chips and Salsa are my weakness.
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My weakness is oreos and poptarts, @Hyde always cracks when i say cheat meal, but his jokes are actually right on the money. When i screw up, it usually involves An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal. 🤷‍♂️🤣
 
Smont said:
My weakness is oreos and poptarts, @Hyde always cracks when i say cheat meal, but his jokes are actually right on the money. When i screw up, it usually involves An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal. 🤷‍♂️🤣
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The Pop Tart strawberry milkshake is back. Love those frozen
 
Smont said:
My weakness is oreos and poptarts, @Hyde always cracks when i say cheat meal, but his jokes are actually right on the money. When i screw up, it usually involves An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal. 🤷‍♂️🤣
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They say you don’t really know a man, until you know what he eats when he goes off the rails, or something
 
Smont said:
An entire box of pop tarts poured into a giant bowl of milk crumbled up and eaten like cereal.
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I'm pretty sure I could do this with an entire box of oreos easy. I need to try a 10k calorie challenge :ROFLMAO:
 
When I got out of basic training I did this with those cups of mini sized oreos and nutter butters, just added milk and, for whatever reason, peanut butter to the oreos. No regerts. Not even a letter.
 
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as you can see, I increase the volume and kind of made it more like my normal push day.

I'm not gonna completely do all 2 a days. But i'm going to have a few two a days every week For the remainder of this month.

After work, I'll get my rounds in on the heavy bag. And then I'll do some leg work.

Last week I had a slight loss of body weight and a slight improvement in body composition. Not bad for 7 days at What I would call 50-60% of my normal intensity and volume.

Calories will go up about 200 per day
 
Electrake said:
When I got out of basic training I did this with those cups of mini sized oreos and nutter butters, just added milk and, for whatever reason, peanut butter to the oreos. No regerts. Not even a letter.
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Nutter Butters! The peanut butter cookie shaped like a peanut. No “regerts” here either Scottie P. Lmao
 
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SBH said:
I'll try these(not with 70s haha) and see how it feels. We're not in disagreement BTW. I didn't feel like the barbell upright rows were a stretch movement either. I used to do them before Shrugs.
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Just to clarify, i also cant do that exercise with a 70lb db, not even close. I mean, I could like it up there for some real sloppy rips but I probably just rip my shoulder out the socket or tear something.

The reason I went for a 70 Was because I knew it would be heavy enough to feel something stretching.

I don't know if you've ever looked into d c training, Dante trudell is big on the stretch after the exercise. Maybe we just perform the exercise normal and then at the end. Hold something heavy for 45sec and force the stretch at the end
 
Kids wanted chinese food so I said **** it I'll make it myself.

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Mongolian beef and Broccoli
 
Smont said:
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Imagine that thing in my hand is a DB
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Forget the dumbbell, I want to see you do the raises with the cat in your hand haha :ROFLMAO:
 
On the subject of shoulders and lateral raises and such - an exercise I like a lot and I think helped me a lot with recovering from my broken shoulder, is Poliquin raises.

I have no idea how to explain them in writing, but the best I can is start with hands in a hammer curl position with the elbows at 90 degrees, then do a lateral raise taking 2 seconds up, then straighten arms out and try for a 4 second down - with the bottom coming back to the hammer curl/90 degree bend position.

For anyone that hasn't tried these, form is everything. Forget how much weight you can do, focus on perfect form and increase from there.
 
sns8778 said:
On the subject of shoulders and lateral raises and such - an exercise I like a lot and I think helped me a lot with recovering from my broken shoulder, is Poliquin raises.

I have no idea how to explain them in writing, but the best I can is start with hands in a hammer curl position with the elbows at 90 degrees, then do a lateral raise taking 2 seconds up, then straighten arms out and try for a 4 second down - with the bottom coming back to the hammer curl/90 degree bend position.

For anyone that hasn't tried these, form is everything. Forget how much weight you can do, focus on perfect form and increase from there.
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I can do them with the orange cat but idk if i can with thie other one
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