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Hello gents,

scenario: you have unlimited funds, give me your best natty stack combo. Seems like a lot of guys have these great combinations in mind but always say too expensive etc. If you could do it the right way and $$ was not an issue what you go with??

I myself have deduced the below stack to be pretty solid from member feedback and had a few questions, I have combed through a huge amount of threads, but never saw all 4 together.

Anabeta elite + erase pro + DAA + IGF-2

1. - Too much? Overkill? what would you pull or add to improve?

2. - Was also looking at the activate extreme and triazole stack. Anyone know how that might "stack" up against the above listed combination?

6'0 200 even sitting at around 12% and continuing a natty lean bulk through May before I start cutting diet for Oct show. Haven't taken anything in almost a year and that was a solo shot of DAA for 12 weeks. Whatever I go with I will also continue creatine and anabolic pump as I respond well to the insulin partitioner. Looking to finish strong on this bulk and was hoping to get some feedback. Diet, training, and sleep are tight and strictly followed, no concerns there, so I believe I will be able to get the most out of any supplement I try. I know these compounds are all user dependent, and what might work for one does not necessarily work for others, but considering $$ as no obstacle just looking for the best possible combo for my time. I know I could run one, and then try another later down the road during cut, which I may just do, but now just looking to maximizing clean bulk.

I appreciate any and all feedback you might be willing to give a guy.

P.S. I noticed a decent amount of members from the military, thank you all for your service, 8 year and counting Army guy myself.
 
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Versa-1 or ArA (X-Gels/X-Factor).
 

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I'll be running this all summer...

Erase Pro
Test Powder
Anabeta Elite
Enhanced
Alphamine
Anabolic Pump
Endosurge
SNS Bulbine
ModernBCAA
Compound 20
Prime
PowerFULL
Versa-1
Super Cissus
SNS MCC
 
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ArA, GMS, Versa-1, Prime, IGF-2, Anabeta Elite, Erase, DAA.
 
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-High fat fresh sea food
-Organic beef, poultry and dairy (all grass fed, no hormones)
-Private veggie organic garden
-Magnesium Creatine Chelate
-Beta Alanine
-COP
-Citrulline Malate
-ECY stack
-A gym for only me, 3 friends and no admission unless you are a hot female in proper short clothing.
 
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and it starts......
 
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Your gay right?
He meant admission to an all Female-Fitness-Model-Nudist-Gym.

That or a British Benjamin Nudist gym...either way, it is no homo.
 
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I did not understand...

Either of you lean brothers care to explain?
He is red lol his rep power the one who said I lived an alternative lady gaga driven lifestyle well he didn't use those terms but I like to be politically correct :D
 
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:blink: cheeky Ricky , redding squatting, while having a bit of fun...at the expense of his stabbing!
 
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:blink: cheeky Ricky , redding squatting, while having a bit of fun...at the expense of his stabbing!
A deserved redding of le rep power can be fun but when not deserved then its bullying sadly this was...

Guy code law 498: when making a joke one shall respond with A. Another joke or B. a non insulting comment

Guy code was broken....sad day my friend...it's like spanking your child it hurts you just as bad as it hurts them
 
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A deserved redding of le rep power can be fun but when not deserved then its bullying sadly this was...

Guy code law 498: when making a joke one shall respond with A. Another joke or B. a non insulting comment

Guy code was broken....sad day my friend...it's like spanning your child it hurts you just as bad as it hurts them
Did you just say spanking? :spankme: haha
 

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He is red lol his rep power the one who said I lived an alternative lady gaga driven lifestyle well he didn't use those terms but I like to be politically correct :D
Your the one who wants my hanging nutts on your face when I help spot as you try and hit your new bench max at your nudist gym gay boy
 
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Now now boys...be nice...
 

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-High fat fresh sea food
-Organic beef, poultry and dairy (all grass fed, no hormones)
-Private veggie organic garden
-Magnesium Creatine Chelate
-Beta Alanine
-COP
-Citrulline Malate
-ECY stack
-A gym for only me, 3 friends and no admission unless you are a hot female in proper short clothing.
In all seriousness this would be mines minus ECY

ill add

DCP
Protocol v2
Rhodiola rosea
GPLC
Coq10
Probiotics
Digestive enzymes
 
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In all seriousness this would be mines minus ECY

ill add

DCP
Protocol v2
Rhodiola rosea
GPLC
Coq10
Probiotics
Digestive enzymes
Wait...we both forgot ALCAR.
 

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Wait...we both forgot ALCAR.
I never understood the different Cartinines

I used 4 grams of GPLC and I was blown away

Are The different types of Carntines best used during different times of the day or you'll mix them together and take Pre workout ?

GPLC pre is superior the others I tried
 

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X-Factor Advanced

Peak Beta+

Intrabolic

Humapro

Craze

Pump-Bol

Osteo Sport

Orange Triad
I think that about does it did i forget anything?
 
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Bioforge V3

X-Factor Advanced

Peak Beta+

Intrabolic

Humapro

Craze

Pump-Bol

Osteo Sport

Orange Triad
I think that about does it did i forget anything?
X Factor Advanced is garbage, Peak Beta is overpriced, Intrabolic is garbage...humapro is overpriced (bulk modern bcaas are better)...
 
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I did a thing like that months ago, i tried not to overlap on some ingredients, could be better it's still a good base :


Everyday :

Ortho Core
Core flex
Core test
Blue print
Titanium XL
Clout + Bodyoctane - AM+PM , 1 of those being pre workout
DCP
LeanXtreme
ECaY
30mg Zinc (gluconate) before bed
Abliderate advanced
NOxidant


Gut Health
Vitaberry - 2x ED and whenever you're hungry
Mycogreens powder - 2x ED
Oximega fish oil - 5caps ED










15min before preW meal : 1 slinsane + 300mg Na-R-ALA + 2 Hemavol


30min preW : Clout + Core ZAP + 2sc Premax + 2sc SPMAX


intra : 80g dextrose + 30g Peptopro + 20g BCAA + 2g LCLT
 
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ArA, GMS, IGF-2, Anabeta Elite, Erase, DAA.

Does this seem like a lot of products to take on a bulk after having only used DAA in the past? Am I adding in too much **** here?

 
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ArA, GMS, IGF-2, Anabeta Elite, Erase, DAA.

Does this seem like a lot of products to take on a bulk after having only used DAA in the past? Am I adding in too much **** here?

I don't like mixing certain GDAs with ArA...some ingredients may react negatively with them. Anyhow, I would say if you really wanna do ArA best thing to do is:

-1.5-2.5g of ArA
-2g LCLT
-5-8g GMS
-6-9g Citrulline Malate
-1-2g Agmatine Sulfate
-Anabeta Elite 4 caps a day

I don't know if your joints can take it, but if they can , 1 cap of Erase Pro a day too.

It can be fairly cheap if you do SNS Cit Mal, SNS Agmatine Powder (100g), bulk powder LCLT (I've seen like 100g for as low as $15) and some bulk GMS or Glycergrow...the expensive part would be the ArA but even some retailers have 200ct bottles at a fair price (X-Factor).

You can't miss on PES and nutraplanet though, most of the times they will have insane prices on ABE and EP, I would say they are worth every penny, including for this stack, since I do see synergism between Anacyclus pyrethrum and ArA.
 
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Hello gents,

scenario: you have unlimited funds, give me your best natty stack combo. Seems like a lot of guys have these great combinations in mind but always say too expensive etc. If you could do it the right way and $$ was not an issue what you go with??

I myself have deduced the below stack to be pretty solid from member feedback and had a few questions, I have combed through a huge amount of threads, but never saw all 4 together.

Anabeta elite + erase pro + DAA + IGF-2

1. - Too much? Overkill? what would you pull or add to improve?

2. - Was also looking at the activate extreme and triazole stack. Anyone know how that might "stack" up against the above listed combination?

6'0 200 even sitting at around 12% and continuing a natty lean bulk through May before I start cutting diet for Oct show. Haven't taken anything in almost a year and that was a solo shot of DAA for 12 weeks. Whatever I go with I will also continue creatine and anabolic pump as I respond well to the insulin partitioner. Looking to finish strong on this bulk and was hoping to get some feedback. Diet, training, and sleep are tight and strictly followed, no concerns there, so I believe I will be able to get the most out of any supplement I try. I know these compounds are all user dependent, and what might work for one does not necessarily work for others, but considering $$ as no obstacle just looking for the best possible combo for my time. I know I could run one, and then try another later down the road during cut, which I may just do, but now just looking to maximizing clean bulk.

I appreciate any and all feedback you might be willing to give a guy.

P.S. I noticed a decent amount of members from the military, thank you all for your service, 8 year and counting Army guy myself.
that is an AWESOME stack.

for strength: Prime + Anabeta + IGF 2 + DAA

Mass: Anabeta + Versa 1 + IGF 2 + Prime + DAA

Cut: Alphamine + Versa 1 + Anabeta Elite + DAA + Erase Pro
 
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X Factor Advanced is garbage, Peak Beta is overpriced, Intrabolic is garbage...humapro is overpriced (bulk modern bcaas are better)...
Explain to me why IntrAbolic is garbage?
 
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Explain to me why IntrAbolic is garbage?
No point taking taking BCAA's , EAA's INTRA workout, it just has some minerals/electrolytes too and Arginine as a filler. You are paying that much for 1.2lbs of 2.5g of Leucine and Arginine...go ahead...if you want BCAAs have them Pre workout around 2 hours for mTOR pathway stimulations (allegedly only 2.5-5g leucine honestly) and/or have then during fasting periods.

Bulk Modern BCAAs and RecoverPro are better for price and ratios and honestly Bulk Modern BCAAs is as good as it gets for price.

Explain to me why do you think it's worth it? Or that any of the other supplements were worth it?
 
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No point taking taking BCAA's , EAA's INTRA workout, it just has some minerals/electrolytes too and Arginine as a filler. You are paying that much for 1.2lbs of 2.5g of Leucine and Arginine...go ahead...if you want BCAAs have them Pre workout around 2 hours for mTOR pathway stimulations (allegedly only 2.5-5g leucine honestly) and/or have then during fasting periods.

Bulk Modern BCAAs and RecoverPro are better for price and ratios and honestly Bulk Modern BCAAs is as good as it gets for price.

Explain to me why do you think it's worth it? Or that any of the other supplements were worth it?
Although marketed as a Peri workout product it is equally at home Pre or Post. You're getting 4 grams of peptides and almost 5.5 grams of free form EAA's 2.5 grams of which is Leucine. Also 1.6 grams of BA and electrolytes. Are there things of better value yeah most likely. To say "its garbage" is completely false. "Worth it" and "its garbage" are two different things.
 
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Although marketed as a Peri workout product it is equally at home Pre or Post. You're getting 4 grams of peptides and almost 5.5 grams of free form EAA's 2.5 grams of which is Leucine. Also 1.6 grams of BA and electrolytes. Are there things of better value yeah most likely. To say "its garbage" is completely false. "Worth it" and "its garbage" are two different things.
I don't like filler, unnecesarry products. Specially when BA has no place Pre workout, when Arginine does nothing...and when BCAAs and EAAs should come from your diet if sufficient protein allotment is a given...which should be for any budybuilder, unless that he is on a really late stage cut and he is shredding that last bit for competition...

Now lets see, if you are paying that much for it, why not save money, get Bulk Beta Alanine, dose it properly and if you so want BCAAs why not get them for a cheaper price in a more effective (anecdotally since the only trials on bcaas are on 2:1:1) ratio like 8:1:1 or 4:1:1 from the afore mentioned sources :) (see my previous post)?
 
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I don't like filler, unnecesarry products. Specially when BA has no place Pre workout, when Arginine does nothing...and when BCAAs and EAAs should come from your diet if sufficient protein allotment is a given...which should be for any budybuilder, unless that he is on a really late stage cut and he is shredding that last bit for competition...

Now lets see, if you are paying that much for it, why not save money, get Bulk Beta Alanine, dose it properly and if you so want BCAAs why not get them for a cheaper price in a more effective (anecdotally since the only trials on bcaas are on 2:1:1) ratio like 8:1:1 or 4:1:1 from the afore mentioned sources :) (see my previous post)?
Seriously why even take supplements at all? LOL Buy all bulk SNS **** FTW! To each his own. One mans trash is another mans treasure.
 
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Seriously why even take supplements at all? LOL Buy all bulk SNS **** FTW! To each his own. One mans trash is another mans treasure.
Never said buy SNS only, I said bulk...who you buy from is your decision! But if you want to get the most out of your money, at least do watch proper dosage, price per serving and keep track of new studies to find out what are the proven working supplements brother.

No need to get all angry...we were only discussing...while at it, what's good about X-Factor Advanced :)?
 
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I don't like mixing certain GDAs with ArA...some ingredients may react negatively with them. Anyhow, I would say if you really wanna do ArA best thing to do is:

-1.5-2.5g of ArA
-2g LCLT
-5-8g GMS
-6-9g Citrulline Malate
-1-2g Agmatine Sulfate
-Anabeta Elite 4 caps a day

I don't know if your joints can take it, but if they can , 1 cap of Erase Pro a day too.

It can be fairly cheap if you do SNS Cit Mal, SNS Agmatine Powder (100g), bulk powder LCLT (I've seen like 100g for as low as $15) and some bulk GMS or Glycergrow...the expensive part would be the ArA but even some retailers have 200ct bottles at a fair price (X-Factor).

You can't miss on PES and nutraplanet though, most of the times they will have insane prices on ABE and EP, I would say they are worth every penny, including for this stack, since I do see synergism between Anacyclus pyrethrum and ArA.
Are you implying IGF-2 is a GDA?
 
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Are you implying IGF-2 is a GDA?
Hm not sure , let me check, sounded like one haha...I just ain't familiar wiht the product...lets look it up.
 
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Are you implying IGF-2 is a GDA?
Oh I see it isn't now :p, I wonder how much Rhodiola is in it...or L-dopa...could be nice IMO. I'll try it out.
 

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SNS Focus XT
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Biotivia BioForge v3
USP Labs Anabolic Pump
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SNS Focus XT
SNS Agmatine
SNS Cissus XT
Biotivia BioForge v3
USP Labs Anabolic Pump
CL Green Bulge
CL Orange Triad
Haleo Aqua Red
You sir are on to something good.
 
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that is an AWESOME stack.

for strength: Prime + Anabeta + IGF 2 + DAA

Mass: Anabeta + Versa 1 + IGF 2 + Prime + DAA

Cut: Alphamine + Versa 1 + Anabeta Elite + DAA + Erase Pro
I think I am going to try a cut VERY similar to that this spring...

To OP your stack is plenty and should yield great results. I personally don't like to take too much at once, rather stagger at different times so that you can maximize progress over time rather than fit it into a small window.

I love ArA and consistently use it, but haven't had the chance to stack it with AnaBeta yet.
 
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Haven't used ArA, may have to
 

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