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ULTRA HOTTER (Is methylated ATD safe for pct?)

Im in shock to learn Yagman and Estapell are one in the same, however, I have to agree with Size, Estopell has been a thorn in PA's side. :) That being said, hello Estopell...............but I still like ALR, even if we dont have the same supp heros you could have said hi. :( Everyone hides from me, I guess its time to take me yearly shower. :)
 
That Damn ALR. he keeps creating new compounds that work. Why doesn't he just spend all day posting on boards and being a whiner. lol
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Now THAT's freakin funny :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

Author - after years of innovation, you must know by now that naysayers are abundant. Don't let it ruffle your feathers my friend. I'm in the world of innovation as well (not chemically though) and know all too well the feeling of being laughed/scoffed at for my crazy ideas. The satisfaction of proving these people wrong takes patience and fortitude. Just keep doing what you love....it doesn't matter what lesser minds think or if your peers disagree. The proof (one way or another) will come out. Sometimes you're right, sometimes not. But if you do not pioneer new horizons, you won't make a difference. You cannot be afraid of making a mistake. That's how we make progress. If you succumb to ridicule then you will end up being afraid to try things on the edge. Keep up the innovation.....I appreciate it!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
SJA said:
Now THAT's freakin funny :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

Author - after years of innovation, you must know by now that naysayers are abundant. Don't let it ruffle your feathers my friend. I'm in the world of innovation as well (not chemically though) and know all too well the feeling of being laughed/scoffed at for my crazy ideas. The satisfaction of proving these people wrong takes patience and fortitude. Just keep doing what you love....it doesn't matter what lesser minds think or if your peers disagree. The proof (one way or another) will come out. Sometimes you're right, sometimes not. But if you do not pioneer new horizons, you won't make a difference. You cannot be afraid of making a mistake. That's how we make progress. If you succumb to ridicule then you will end up being afraid to try things on the edge. Keep up the innovation.....I appreciate it!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Ghosting said:
Im in shock to learn Yagman and Estapell are one in the same, however, I have to agree with Size, Estopell has been a thorn in PA's side. :) That being said, hello Estopell...............but I still like ALR, even if we dont have the same supp heros you could have said hi. :( Everyone hides from me, I guess its time to take me yearly shower. :)
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Hiya Ghosting. You smell nice:blink:. Size is my favorite Mod over at BB but he's taking a beating as of late. Not a fair one. To me, ALRI is a house of cards. Bringing on BK and the way they respond to questions is disconcerting. But I don't want a ban or an E beating right now so I'll stifle myself.
 
Yagman said:
I'm just a bit tired of Author threatening to take his ball and go home. Whatever, Bobo clearly doesn't want me to speak my mind so I'll move on. Getting answers in the ALRI forum is like pulling teeth anyway. Something that never happens over at Designer.
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Oh, we are going to go that route again? Now you can't discuss things (damn, the South Philly dialect break in) over here? Seems you are doing that now. You don't like how ALRI repsonds to questions. Point taken. You don't think ALRI is innovatove. Point taken. My questions was why you are so hard up for certain supplement company owners and go out of your way to create threads that you know will create the sort of drama that brings the kiddies out. Are you going to be the savior of the industry?

See I thought I was clear on this before. Its not the opinion I care about, its the way its expressed. Now in your case, you just seem like your negative about everyone and everything. Now given time I'm suire you will find something you don't like abou DS because in your case it seems you need be unhappy about something.

I'm sorry if you think you will take your e..beating and I don't let you express your e..opinion but maybe people should less time analyzing every little detail about supplement companies and take a break from their e..lives.


If you want to talk about how you don't like their business philosophy (along wiht many others), then create your thread in the General Topic area, not in the forum they pay for.

Oh but then I would erase that wouldn't I because I don't want you to express your opinion right? For someone your age and supposed position (attorney) I would expect a little bit better attitude and less assumption on your part. But then again if you like that environment then maybe this isn't the place for you.
 
Yagman said:
Hiya Ghosting. You smell nice:blink:. Size is my favorite Mod over at BB but he's taking a beating as of late. Not a fair one.
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I don't see you helping him in any way yet when it comes time to hop on the bashing bandwagon you take the ride everytime.
 
"PA Bible" - I love it! ROTFLMAO!!!!

I used to refer to him as "Jesus H. Andro" and now it seems he has his own bible.

This rocks and made my day friend!

The Gospels of Jesus H. Andro as found in the PA Bible.

Can we think of some cool names for "books"? I already know who some of his "apostles" are.

BK



Max32 said:
No worries guys, he probably chants verses from the "PA Bible."

I am a huge fan of DS as well. Infact, the companies I find truly innovative are DS, ALRI, and Avant. MAN looks to be coming along with some new prods as well.
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Go immediately to bb.com. Do not pass 'Go', do not collect $200.


BK


Yagman said:
No offense but if you did retire or never came into the market, we'd still have Superdrol, Pheraplex and Rebound. You really haven't done anything novel. Sledge's retirement would be the worst.
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Bruce,

Simma down.

Count to ten.
 
So if you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you, OK?

Why are you here? All you do is complain. Don't like ALR or his prods...by someone elses. Move on and move out.


BK



Yagman said:
I'm just a bit tired of Author threatening to take his ball and go home. Whatever, Bobo clearly doesn't want me to speak my mind so I'll move on. Getting answers in the ALRI forum is like pulling teeth anyway. Something that never happens over at Designer.
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4...5...6....7...


Deep breath.
 
Bobo said:
Oh, we are going to go that route again? Now you can't discuss things (damn, the South Philly dialect break in) over here? Seems you are doing that now. You don't like how ALRI repsonds to questions. Point taken. You don't think ALRI is innovatove. Point taken. My questions was why you are so hard up for certain supplement company owners and go out of your way to create threads that you know will create the sort of drama that brings the kiddies out. Are you going to be the savior of the industry?

See I thought I was clear on this before. Its not the opinion I care about, its the way its expressed. Now in your case, you just seem like your negative about everyone and everything. Now given time I'm suire you will find something you don't like abou DS because in your case it seems you need be unhappy about something.

I'm sorry if you think you will take your e..beating and I don't let you express your e..opinion but maybe people should less time analyzing every little detail about supplement companies and take a break from their e..lives.


If you want to talk about how you don't like their business philosophy (along wiht many others), then create your thread in the General Topic area, not in the forum they pay for.

Oh but then I would erase that wouldn't I because I don't want you to express your opinion right? For someone your age and supposed position (attorney) I would expect a little bit better attitude and less assumption on your part. But then again if you like that environment then maybe this isn't the place for you.
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I guess my praise for DS didn't fit into your theory so you dismissed it. Ya know Bobo, you're alot like me, you just don't realize it yet. I don't march to anyone's drum but my own. You claim that is your mantra too and your posts seem to make that evident but sometimes I wonder. You're right, this is ALRI's forum and I respect that. Good luck Author. One final note, BK, kiss me where the good lord split me.
 
I am to a point. I don't harp on the negatives all the time which I see you do quite often. I also learn form my mistakes and making general assumptions about a situation in which I really don't have the facts bit me in the ass quite a few times.

And your opinion on DS does fit into my theory because in all honesty I could find many more negative points about them and their situations than ALRI but I know the character of the owner and the character of their staff and realize that growing companies make mistakes (as I have in my own). It seems funny that you are all about them, yet continue to take cheap shots at ALRI for what? Not following YOUR business philosphy? I could see if they put out **** products. I remember when the arguement used to be how a company put out ineffective products and they would market them to death claiming this and that. Now I see its reduced to bashing them because people don't like their marketing. The product effectiveness has gone out the window. Hmm...wonder who started that?

I just find it surprising that you would resort to the old "Bobo won't let me express my opinion because it goes against sponsor" bullshit again. I thought we went over that but I see you still are holding on to that concept just because I don't let every spammer with a proxy server in here to bash them.
 
Bobo said:
I am to a point. I don't harp on the negatives all the time which I see you do quite often. I also learn form my mistakes and making general assumptions about a situation in which I really don't have the facts bit me in the ass quite a few times.

And your opinion on DS does fit into my theory because in all honesty I could find many more negative points about them and their situations than ALRI but I know the character of the owner and the character of their staff and realize that growing companies make mistakes (as I have in my own). It seems funny that you are all about them, yet continue to take cheap shots at ALRI for what? Not following YOUR business philosphy? I could see if they put out **** products. I remember when the arguement used to be how a company put out ineffective products and they would market them to death claiming this and that. Now I see its reduced to bashing them because people don't like their marketing. The product effectiveness has gone out the window. Hmm...wonder who started that?

I just find it surprising that you would resort to the old "Bobo won't let me express my opinion because it goes against sponsor" bullshit again. I thought we went over that but I see you still are holding on to that concept just because I don't let every spammer with a proxy server in here to bash them.
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Damn, I'm trying to leave this thread but....look, you're right, I'm wrong, I shouldn't have posted on their forum. Only positive posts belong here. Now, let me leave with my tail between my legs.
 
Soooooo, I hope Sam over at Nutra Planet gets his shipment of UltraHotter today. I'm sure the guy will have the best price around. :D
 
Yagman said:
Only positive posts belong here. Now, let me leave with my tail between my legs.
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Classic example.
 
Yagman said:
Thanks!
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Welcome. I make fun of my attorney for the same thing.


Quite amusing....
 
and for the record, my earlier comment about the PA bible was not in ill will towards PA. Its just that seemingly, supporters of PA are typically opposed to ALRI. I think they both have brilliant minds and it is a shame that these board wars occur so often....
 
Stirring up controversy on my little space on the forum Yagman, for shame. :)
 
*Yawn*

I'm not going to get into with Estopell/Yagman. He's trolling...dude you're about as obvious as Rafael Palmiero in a Mexican pharmacy.


BK



Yagman said:
I guess my praise for DS didn't fit into your theory so you dismissed it. Ya know Bobo, you're alot like me, you just don't realize it yet. I don't march to anyone's drum but my own. You claim that is your mantra too and your posts seem to make that evident but sometimes I wonder. You're right, this is ALRI's forum and I respect that. Good luck Author. One final note, BK, kiss me where the good lord split me.
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BKneller said:
*Yawn*

I'm not going to get into with Estopell/Yagman. He's trolling...dude you're about as obvious as Rafael Palmiero in a Mexican pharmacy.


BK
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And you're about as popular as Patrick Arnold at a DEA convention.
 
SilentScream27 said:
ALR did come out with max LMG and prostanozol, which likely would not have been produced with DS alone in the industry. DS had DMT and ATD though.
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Actually ATD is Bruce's concoction.
 
Never set out to be popular. Just to develop the best supps possible without breaking any laws.
And to make barrels of money.



This is not a popularity contest - it is a business. Get over yourself and why don't you go to law school for
real instead of pretending to be a lawyer.

BK


Yagman said:
And you're about as popular as Patrick Arnold at a DEA convention.
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BK-since you're in,
what's an appropriate dose of ATD if it's used during cycle, and what's the suggested dose for PCT and for how long?
And do you see it as a viable alternative to HCG during a long AAS cycle, as has been suggested? Thanks.
 
BKneller said:
Never set out to be popular. Just to develop the best supps possible without breaking any laws.
And to make barrels of money.



This is not a popularity contest - it is a business. Get over yourself and why don't you go to law school for
real instead of pretending to be a lawyer.

BK
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I won't hit back since Bobo asked me to tone it down. Truth is, you really never made "one of the best" supps possible. Really, you're right, most lawyers only pretend to be lawyers. But the one's who are most succesful are the one's who fake it best. Law School? No way, I don't want to go back to that mind numbing, brain washing bastion of pablum puking liberal fundamentalism. You're mean for wishing that on me, you bastard.:rasp:
 
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