Ultimate Sexual Weekend Stack?!?!?

[ahh123]

I wonder how they could afford to sell that 40:1 extract so cheap? Doing the math its the equivalent of 720g of goji compared to the Dr. Best which is equivalent to 280g for practically the same price.

I read many goji supplements are not really goji but chinese imitation that has different ingredient profile - something like red korean ginseng different than siberian ginseng.

I'll stick with 4:1 extract until someone says 40:1 being much inferior - usually depends on quality of ingredients which is reflected on a product's price.

 

[bpclipper10]

I read many goji supplements are not really goji but chinese imitation that has different ingredient profile - something like red korean ginseng different than siberian ginseng.

I'll stick with 4:1 extract until someone says 40:1 being much inferior - usually depends on quality of ingredients which is reflected on a product's price.

Yea I hear what your saying. I figure for that cheap price I might as well give it a shot. If it doesn't work out I'll switch over to the 4:1 that you guys are running when the bottles empty, can't hurt to try.

 

[Z28Luver7777]

Personally I'm more into herbal based supplements to replace pharmaceuticals. I just need a clomid replacement. Heres what I got so far:

-PDE5 (viagra) alternative=Goji berry extract, horny goat weed

-Cabergoline (reduce prolactin/refractory period)=Chasteberry, l-dopa

-Clomid=?

Tell me what you guys think also let me know if you have any better alternatives or herbals I should try out.

 

[gymrat827]

Personally I'm more into herbal based supplements to replace pharmaceuticals. I just need a clomid replacement. Heres what I got so far:

-PDE5 (viagra) alternative=Goji berry extract, horny goat weed

-Cabergoline (reduce prolactin/refractory period)=Chasteberry, l-dopa

-Clomid=?

Tell me what you guys think also let me know if you have any better alternatives or herbals I should try out.

nothing will touch clomid in terms of power or how potent it is

 

[Evan666]

Personally I'm more into herbal based supplements to replace pharmaceuticals. I just need a clomid replacement. Heres what I got so far:

-PDE5 (viagra) alternative=Goji berry extract, horny goat weed

-Cabergoline (reduce prolactin/refractory period)=Chasteberry, l-dopa

-Clomid=?

Tell me what you guys think also let me know if you have any better alternatives or herbals I should try out.

I found bulbine/daa to be similar to.clomid but nowhere near as powerful.

 

[bpclipper10]

UPDATE: So it's been about a week now on TestoJack 200 and 40:1 Goji Extract...few things I have noticed, even tho admittedly it's a bit soon to report:

- Increased volume, even on 2nd and 3rd round I'm still putting out some hefty loads when usually they seem to decrease with each successive round
- Libido is increased ever so slightly, after round one with the girly, I seem to be wanting it for again ASAP
- Refractory period is decreased by bout 5 mins or so
- Boys are certainly fuller and feeling heavier
- Boners are a bit harder, nothing crazy but just slightly harder and tends to stay up and at attention no matter how long we may take to change positions or grab a rubber or move around, never have to 're-up' per say lol, stays ready to go
- This is a bit weird, but my loads smell fruity?! Haha I know it sounds ridiculous but it's true

Now all of these are slight increases that I've only picked up on because I am very in tune with my package being that I've had varicocele surgery a few years back so I've come to understand and pick up on subtle changes. I will keep updating as things progress. Right now for $30 this is a nice lil herbal stack

 

[ahh123]

UPDATE: So it's been about a week now on TestoJack 200 and 40:1 Goji Extract...few things I have noticed, even tho admittedly it's a bit soon to report:

- Increased volume, even on 2nd and 3rd round I'm still putting out some hefty loads when usually they seem to decrease with each successive round
- Libido is increased ever so slightly, after round one with the girly, I seem to be wanting it for again ASAP
- Refractory period is decreased by bout 5 mins or so
- Boys are certainly fuller and feeling heavier
- Boners are a bit harder, nothing crazy but just slightly harder and tends to stay up and at attention no matter how long we may take to change positions or grab a rubber or move around, never have to 're-up' per say lol, stays ready to go
- This is a bit weird, but my loads smell fruity?! Haha I know it sounds ridiculous but it's true

Now all of these are slight increases that I've only picked up on because I am very in tune with my package being that I've had varicocele surgery a few years back so I've come to understand and pick up on subtle changes. I will keep updating as things progress. Right now for $30 this is a nice lil herbal stack

I experienced most of same things as well with my Tongkat Ali 200:1 and Goji 4:1 extract.

It does depend on the dose and how long you're taking it but for me if I increase to high I get already side effects so kind of a like 1 cap each per day with Tongkat being cycled 5 days on/2 days off since effects are felt on those off days as well.

Now I've added also Endosurge to increase free and total testosterone as well.

 

[jacobxcaliber]

I'm still taken by the Goji Dr's Best and *** Maca Men these two do wonders. I get touched by my wife it's go time. The only side effect is that sometimes I feel light headed when I take both together. I have also experienced good effects from these two before I lift. I took it by mistake before my brother dragged me to the gym. I definitely had more energy on my lifts and focus.

 

[RogerBob]

Glad my Goji knowledge has been of use to you guys! Its good for overall health too!

You could try adding ISA-Test (very highly potent trib + others) or PES Erase or ebay alternatives to reduce your estrogen also helped.

You can also get cheap chinese generic blue pill copies, 1/5th the dose before you go (on top of the natural stuff) will add that boost without going overboard. I find if i couple the blue pills with goji, im a mad man for the whole night

 

[ahh123]

Glad my Goji knowledge has been of use to you guys! Its good for overall health too!

You could try adding ISA-Test (very highly potent trib + others) or PES Erase or ebay alternatives to reduce your estrogen also helped.

You can also get cheap chinese generic blue pill copies, 1/5th the dose before you go (on top of the natural stuff) will add that boost without going overboard. I find if i couple the blue pills with goji, im a mad man for the whole night

Did you get Butea Superba 4:1 extract or you changed your mind and trying other stuff now?

I guess if Goji works so good for you then no need to test Butea.

 

[RogerBob]

Nah, I didnt feel I needed it. Any Erase etc. gives me the brain connection, and theGoji is fine for down below. If anything the missus is complaining now lol so its working for me as is. Sometimes, on the odd occasion drop a blue pill if i know its gonna be a long night

 

[broons]

Curious what the lead content is on that 40:1 lol. It is from China after all

 

[cubsfan815]

I curious about the generic blue ones myself. I saw a report once where some contained drywall lol

 

[RogerBob]

Simplysupplements works... £7.99 and buy one get one free. I cant complain.

The Wolfberry pills you get in the mens loos have generic V in them, because you can eat tons of the listed ingrediants and not get any effect like what actually happens after ingesting one of those capsules!

 

[cubsfan815]

Simplysupplements works... £7.99 and buy one get one free. I cant complain.

The Wolfberry pills you get in the mens loos have generic V in them, because you can eat tons of the listed ingrediants and not get any effect like what actually happens after ingesting one of those capsules!

yeah I should gave been more clear, the generic blue pills from China are the ones I don't know if I trust lol

 

[RogerBob]

Dupr

 

[RogerBob]

Dupe

 

[RogerBob]

Guarantee its the Chinese stuff in the mens loos (wolfberry ones anyway). The blue angel ones are crap. Google for reviews on suppliers, theres loads and dosages are good, 1/4 pill will do the job when theyre 100mg tabs and you get 25 for 20 quid!

 

[John33]

Let me see if I got this right.

You guys are using Goji, Maca and Tongkat Ali (Long Jack), but I am not sure I figured out which brands and the dosing.
Could you please give me a quick summary? Thanks.

By the way, has anybody tried Goji100 by Genesis Today, which is a pure Goji juice? Some claim that it is more potent than capsules. Is it true?

 

[bpclipper10]

Let me see if I got this right.

You guys are using Goji, Maca and Tongkat Ali (Long Jack), but I am not sure I figured out which brands and the dosing.
Could you please give me a quick summary? Thanks.

By the way, has anybody tried Goji100 by Genesis Today, which is a pure Goji juice? Some claim that it is more potent than capsules. Is it true?

NOW TestoJack 200 (Maca, Trib, Long Jack):
2 capsules AM - 1 capsule PM

Natural Factors GojiRich Goji Berry 40:1:
1 capsule AM - 1 capsule PM

That's my regiment. Working well. Loving it.

 

[John33]

NOW TestoJack 200 (Maca, Trib, Long Jack):
2 capsules AM - 1 capsule PM

Natural Factors GojiRich Goji Berry 40:1:
1 capsule AM - 1 capsule PM

That's my regiment. Working well. Loving it.

Great, thank you!

Do you cycle it? Do you take it only on the days of the activity or do you need to take it for some time to have an effect?

 

[RogerBob]

When I came off the Goji, I caught the flu! When Im on it im bullet proof!
Theres no reason to come off it or cycle the goji, although no harm in a mini break if you can be sure there's nothing 'going around' at the workplace.
test boost i like to do PES Erase, gives me the aggression, otherwise just goji will give me the results, for one time round, but barley 2-3 times

 

[broons]

I may start growing my own gojis in my garden. Would be a lot cheaper in the long run. Dehydrate them powder them up and put them in tea bags for some hot water extraction lol

 

[bpclipper10]

Great, thank you!

Do you cycle it? Do you take it only on the days of the activity or do you need to take it for some time to have an effect?

I am running it everyday...goji has plethora of added benefits besides libido boost so I don't see reason to cycle as other user mentioned. I'll be staying with it especially when I get on test in a month to keep the boys going...interested to see how it performs on cycle to keep boys full. We'll see but I don't see reason to cycle and for all the benefits id stay on it daily cause it builds doesn't real work if u take it only on 'activity' days...it's herbal so its not instant like Cialis or Viagra lol

 

[John33]

I am running it everyday...goji has plethora of added benefits besides libido boost so I don't see reason to cycle as other user mentioned.

What about NOW TestoJack? Do you cycle it?

 

[bpclipper10]

What about NOW TestoJack? Do you cycle it?

Yea ill prob go 6-8 weeks then take a break for a few weeks.

 

[TxHomeGrown]

Man when I was on Deca and popping 25mg Cialis I was putting hoes in wheelchairs.

I did order some NOW Virility Power which has alot of good **** in it. I'll pop back in this thread after I give it a whirl.

 

[ahh123]

Did Endosurge 3x one cap & Tongkat Ali 200:1 one cap before lunch & Goji 4:1 one cap in afternoon and was interesting 12 days to test this combo since I already tried each on it's own.

Goji alone being weakest and only seen light change in erection boost while Tongkat 2x 1cap or Endosurge 3x 2 caps on it's own have significant effect on boosting libido, better sleep and erections.

Already good enough combo is Tongkat 1 cap + Endosurge 3x 1 cap (at half the dose compared to when using each as solo supplement).

Read for Tongkat to either work on boosting LH (similar as L-Dopa in Mucuna Pruriens) or inhibiting SHBG (similar as divanil) so this would explain why Tongkat and Endosurge work very similar when stack them together at half the recommended dose.

If I had to choose only one of them to take I'd choose Endosurge since Mucuna Pruriens give you overall better mood and no side effects while Tongkat at higher doses can increase aggression, restlessness, affect sleep, make your body hotter and I even got light diarrhea when took 3x 1 cap in 1 day.

At normal dosing 1 or 2 caps/day I didn't have any side effects also when using Tongkat Ali or stacking it with Endosurge and Goji.

In next 10 days I'll try Diesel Test Hardcore since it's so praised and contains also ingredients that are in Endosurge and Tongkat plus containing some estrogen controlling substances so hoping for best overall supplement where I don't need many products to get testosterone, estrogen, prolactin, dopamine... in check to boost libido and erections.

Surprisingly I don't see any logs or blood work lately for Diesel Test Hardcore except occasional reply in topic like this how it rocks.

 

[UncleWade]

I've just started playing around with SNS Bulbine now that I'm back at school [Tom Cruise would call that a "target rich environment"] and will report back shortly, I don't think we've seen a lot of feedback on this.

If anyone would be interest in giving this a shot and reviewing it for us, please shoot me a PM.

 

[Vitruvian]

Whatever you choose, add in extract of Unclewade for the extra good sexytime.

 

[John33]

In next 10 days I'll try Diesel Test Hardcore since it's so praised and contains also ingredients that are in Endosurge and Tongkat plus containing some estrogen controlling substances so hoping for best overall supplement where I don't need many products to get testosterone, estrogen, prolactin, dopamine... in check to boost libido and erections.

Surprisingly I don't see any logs or blood work lately for Diesel Test Hardcore except occasional reply in topic like this how it rocks.

I also thought that it was a great product that was underrated. I have tried it, two bottles. Nothing. It has too many ingredients to begin with.

 

[John33]

Which brand of Tongkat Ali would you guys recommend? Thanks.

 

[broons]

Which brand of Tongkat Ali would you guys recommend? Thanks.

Pasak bumi

 

[John33]

Pasak bumi

The 1:200 extract is so expensive, if I am looking at the correct site. Where do you buy it? (PM please if you cannot post the link). Have you guys tried any of the local brands, such as Source Naturals or Action Labs?

 

[Z28Luver7777]

160 bucks for 80 capsules. Thats 2 dollars a capsule. There has to be other brands that work. Cuz thats a lil much

 

[Jay888999]

160 bucks for 80 capsules. Thats 2 dollars a capsule. There has to be other brands that work. Cuz thats a lil much

Little to much..way to much.

Im looking to put together a stack of Pro Labs Horny Goat Weed,cost $13.00 -60 pills-30day supply contains( Niacin,Tribulus,Ginseng,Epimedium,Yohimbine & Maca) and Stinging Nettle ($8.00 ,90 pills)3 pills ,1500 mgs pr day by NOW,Mucuna L-Dopa (13.00 ,90pills) 2 pills,400mgs per day by NOW & I3C aka DIIM ($13.00, 60 pills,only using 1 per day for 30 days)200mgs pr day by NOW..For 30 days as well. And possibly Resveratrol by NOW ($13.00,60 pills,only 1 per day for 30 days)...leaves you with 30 pills each of Reversitrol and I3C,for a future stack...

Spend way less than $180.00..so u can make your own stack for $60.00& know exactly what dosing you are getting for a fact...Hope this helps..

 

[ahh123]

160 bucks for 80 capsules. Thats 2 dollars a capsule. There has to be other brands that work. Cuz thats a lil much

That's way too much.

I'm using tongkatfitness and their price is around $0.72 per 300 mg capsule (120 caps bottle of 200:1 extract), which lasts you 6 months if you cycle 5 days on/2 days off.
This is then monthly cost of around $22 for Tongkat supplementing.

1 cap of this extract equivalent of 60g of root which is felt already around day 3 since your balls are tingling from making extra testosterone and sperm.

Adding to this Goji berry 4:1 extract 1 or 2 caps daily and you have all natural stack for boosting libido and erections.
Monthly Goji supplementation also cost around $7 so you have nice little stack of Tongkat and Goji for less than $30/month.

Just 2 ingredients - Tongkat 1cap when wake up for libido and Goji 1cap in afternoon for erections for less than $30 a month from good source is all you need.

 

[broons]

If you buy directly from them, ya its expensive. Resellers are cheaper. Barlowes has pasak bumi 200:1 at a decent price.

 

[CharlesT]

I just ordered some stuff from Barlowes.Cnidium,Icariin and Xanthoparmelia. I'll report in a week or so.

 

[ahh123]

I just ordered some stuff from Barlowes.Cnidium,Icariin and Xanthoparmelia. I'll report in a week or so.

Looking forward to your feedback.

I should get Diesel Test Hardcore this Friday so should have feedback 2 weeks from now.

Most users taking DTH claim crazy libido boost and some people report taking whole bottle and feel more or less nothing.
Only blood tests I could find online is on producer's website where it's presented as text under product: person XY reports ?? % increase in free and total testosterone and ?? % decrease in estrogen, cortisol and prolactin.

But no log on any forum in last 2 years or even a blood test for I don't know now 5th version of this product that's online for over 7 years hmm.

Hoping it will work extremely well on me or I'm switching back to Tongkat Ali/Endosurge/Goji combo and maybe adding AI like Licogenix or Erase.

 

[broons]

I just ordered some stuff from Barlowes.Cnidium,Icariin and Xanthoparmelia. I'll report in a week or so.

Careful with xantho. It can be toxic I believe. Look it up. Cytotoxic esters. Cnidium did nothing for me even at 6 caps.

 

[RecompMan]

Careful with xantho. It can be toxic I believe. Look it up. Cytotoxic esters. Cnidium did nothing for me even at 6 caps.

There Cnidium isn't extracted.

I use 400 mg osthole per day for sex. 1800-2000 to put on weight n stay lean

 

[CharlesT]

Their cnidium is 50:1 extract if it doesn't work it wont be the first time a supplement didn't but at least its cheap. The Xantho is toxic to cancer cells and I'm not going to take it everyday.

 

[nergy]

I've just started playing around with SNS Bulbine now that I'm back at school [Tom Cruise would call that a "target rich environment"] and will report back shortly, I don't think we've seen a lot of feedback on this.

If anyone would be interest in giving this a shot and reviewing it for us, please shoot me a PM.

Did you get my PM, UncleWade ?

 

[John33]

NOW TestoJack 200 (Maca, Trib, Long Jack):
2 capsules AM - 1 capsule PM

I just got my bottle of TestoJack and the label says to "take 2 capsules with food." I have noticed that it contains ZMA, which people usually take pre-bed. Do you take TestoJack on an empty stomach first thing in the morning? Have you tried taking the second doze pre-bed?

Do you take Goji on an empty stomach first thing in the morning?

Thanks.

 

[bpclipper10]

I just got my bottle of TestoJack and the label says to "take 2 capsules with food." I have noticed that it contains ZMA, which people usually take pre-bed. Do you take TestoJack on an empty stomach first thing in the morning? Have you tried taking the second doze pre-bed?

Do you take Goji on an empty stomach first thing in the morning?

Thanks.

I take 1 goji and 2 TestoJack in the morning empty stomach. Then I take 1 goji and 1 TestoJack in the PM. Working well.

 

[Gator762]

Too bad many of the performance formulations by the companies use Yohimbine. I've experimented a few times with it. It increases wood a bit, but I'm too charged up or anxious, making it more difficult to last longer.

A little harder but popping too fast.

 

[nergy]

once you stop using those supplements, how do you feel ? Do you get back to normal, is it better, worse ...?

 

[RecompMan]

Their cnidium is 50:1 extract if it doesn't work it wont be the first time a supplement didn't but at least its cheap. The Xantho is toxic to cancer cells and I'm not going to take it everyday.

Yea but it isn't standardized. Osthole is what you want.

 

[T0008]

...where do you order your Osthole? Thx.