Ultimate Sexual Weekend Stack?!?!?

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I'll take the pepsi challenge, will report back

On paper, Goji wins due to the benefits outside of the discussion here, and high doses of butea cuase drops in testosterone and blood alterations. In mild form maybe its not noticable, but no-one wants more E.

Wiling to try it though, goji is my staple, for months, so i can compare it

For the guy with the donkey dick, it may not be ideal, as Ive had complaints of me being TOO hard sometimes :/ Maybe a selection of lubes maybe a better option!

Ifyou're on AAS
, who knows what could be affected, and could be the route cause of the problem, hormones bouncing up and down, but that's your call. On the subject of bouncing up and down, the doc sounds useful but a defo wife threat!
donkey dick-how i envy those guys!!!!!!

AAS-i think this may be why i fluctuate so much , im on trt and my e levels must be all over the place
 
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Cant fault Goji, every day is a goji day :)

I'll let you know on the butea, will buy some in day or two, but i fear it will have sides like Yohimbe and yohimbine or as its 'red' or 'Yin' it will be like ginseng, good for a week but not every day.
Well you got me all excited with your Goji experience so I did some research and it looks like a great natural alternative to multivitamins with emphasis on providing eye, liver and kidney health.

I pulled the plug and ordered Goji myself and I'm expecting to get it in next 5-10 days and then I start testing it myself.

In next 2-3 weeks that I test Goji you will probably test Butea so I'm looking forward hearing how Butea will work on you and how it compares vs Goji.
 
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Don't know if you have problem with your vision but it says clearly on this link under Supplement Facts
Goji berry extract (4:1)

This one actually looks better since it's stronger and doesn't contain Magnesium Stearate (that has a negative effect on hormonal balance since most are used from animal sources and weird almost every testosterone booster has this as a glue so all substances mix nicely in a capsule).

But reading latest review is from 2008 and maybe their Goji berry source they use is not of same quality.

Only one way to find out is to buy it and try it.

I always go for personal feedback from one of the members on this forum over just picking what ever company I can get my hands on.
 

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I just bought some LBP-40 goji caps from dragon herbs. 40% standardized polysaccharides so we will see. Certified from Heaven mountain which I guess is top of the line goji.

I tried Butea Superba once, had no effect on me. Was a 4:1 extract.
 
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I just bought some LBP-40 goji caps from dragon herbs. 40% standardized polysaccharides so we will see. Certified from Heaven mountain which I guess is top of the line goji.

I tried Butea Superba once, had no effect on me. Was a 4:1 extract.
Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.

Bureau is hit or miss

I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.

Found some cool stuff.

Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.

Pretty awesome.

May do a 200 cap bottle for this one because it will be amazing
 
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Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.

Bureau is hit or miss

I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.

Found some cool stuff.

Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.

Pretty awesome.

May do a 200 cap bottle for this one because it will be amazing
Make it happen!
 

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Check this out. I decided to talk to my doctor today about getting Cabergoline to see if I can get it covered by insurance (since I'm "technically" on TRT). Here's the full story in case you've missed anything.

The reason I want the caber is for staying power. I'm what I would call gifted and cursed. Quite frankly, I'm hung. The problem is that my wife is unnaturally tight. To the point where she had to have both kids by C-section. So it's a battle of physics and friction I can't win! It's like trying to screw a pair of vicegrips. Lol.

So how to approach the subject with my ungodly hot female doctor who enjoys flirting as much as I do... First she had to recheck a hernia we were concerned about. Which of course was fun! So after I explain the issue (big c**k/tight p***y). She says "I can see that". Wow. So I say how it's a curse. She laughed and actually said "oh you're SOOO cursed! Must be rough. Your looks, beard, muscles, personality and THAT" pointing at my junk. I busted out laughing.

So I suggested Cabergoline and say how since I've been on Androgel (at least that's what I'm prescribed... Shhhh) I've never had my estrogen or prolactin levels checked. So she says yes on the Caber, but just wants to check hormone levels first. Uh oh. So I come clean on my AAS use, and she scolds me a little and we talk about it. She said she'll be happy to work with me as long as I get in to see her weekly. Cool! So I got more labs done and she wrote me a RX for something my acne and for my horrendous sweating. I'll get my Cabergoline later this week then.

All in all, a damn good visit. Oh, and she invited me over for coffee next week. I think she wants to help me test out the caber! Lol

Let us know how the caber works out for you
 
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Depends on how much you use. And too much is no good.

I'm working on a test booster now. Looking into a bunch of possibilities.

Found some cool stuff.

Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.
Do try to hit more pathways like increased total testosterone (fadogia) and free testosterone (divanil), reducing prolactin (L-DOPA) and maybe mix it with mild anxiolitic (7,8-Benzoflavone) since many cases of performance anxiety.

Alpha 2 antagonists can cause weak orgasms so I'd rethink about adding this.

Don't put in DAA cause me and many others get diarrhea so I won't be buying any test booster containing DAA.
DAA can also cause increase in prolactin and estrogen so really don't put it in.
Also DAA is now patented substance and you can risk potential lawsuit or paying royalty fee for adding DAA in your product - just not worth the hassle.

Also I'm not into putting in an AI cause you never know how much each person needs so put in too much and libido goes down.

Better make a solid test booster and let people decide to stack it or not with DAA and their choice of AI.

If I'd make my own test booster I'd make it simple and not add stuff like zinc or vit D since this you already get from food or sun exposure and in many multivitamin pills.

Less is better and I'd try to have less or max 5 ingredients inside but to hit more pathways.

My current choice would be:
* fadogia,
* divanil,
* L-DOPA,
* 7,8-Benzoflavone.
 
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Do try to hit more pathways like increased total testosterone (fadogia) and free testosterone (divanil), reducing prolactin (L-DOPA) and maybe mix it with mild anxiolitic (7,8-Benzoflavone) since many cases of performance anxiety.

Alpha 2 antagonists can cause weak orgasms so I'd rethink about adding this.

Don't put in DAA cause me and many others get diarrhea so I won't be buying any test booster containing DAA.
DAA can also cause increase in prolactin and estrogen so really don't put it in.
Also DAA is now patented substance and you can risk potential lawsuit or paying royalty fee for adding DAA in your product - just not worth the hassle.

Also I'm not into putting in an AI cause you never know how much each person needs so put in too much and libido goes down.

Better make a solid test booster and let people decide to stack it or not with DAA and their choice of AI.

If I'd make my own test booster I'd make it simple and not add stuff like zinc or vit D since this you already get from food or sun exposure and in many multivitamin pills.

Less is better and I'd try to have less or max 5 ingredients inside but to hit more pathways.

My current choice would be:
* fadogia,
* divanil,
* L-DOPA,
* 7,8-Benzoflavone.
Thanx for that feedback

It'll mainly be a photo androgen product. One ingredient acts as a GDA an has some ursoluc acid and may help with cortisol

Looking into 7,8 as I find it pretty awesome. As for the l dopa. I have it on natty v. This would be stackable for the ultimate experience
 
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doctors best seem to be a good brand. I bought some ACAI from them a while back, opened up a cap (as i like to do, to see whats inside) and the quality of the acai seemed really good (it was also a freeze dried high nutrient process) I wouldn't doubt their quality going forward.

Id be interested to try them but at Simply supplements Goji is 360 for £18.99, £7.99 for 120 (almost half the price of doctors best) and Im scared to move brands if its not as good

I notice Holland and Barret have started selling the juice in store, if anyone's interested, wasnt cheap though.
 

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doctors best seem to be a good brand. I bought some ACAI from them a while back, opened up a cap (as i like to do, to see whats inside) and the quality of the acai seemed really good (it was also a freeze dried high nutrient process)
Acai did nothing for me, and it was expensive (doctors best usually is in the UK, unless on offer) but I wouldn't doubt their quality going forward.

Id be interested to try them but at Simply supplements its 360 for £18.99, £7.99 for 120 (almost half the price of doctors best) and Im scared to move brands if its not as good

I notice Holland and Barret have started selling the juice in store, if anyone's interested, wasnt cheap though.
sorry but i missed something here -ACAI wheres that fit in to all this ?
 
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sorry but i missed something here -ACAI wheres that fit in to all this ?
It doesnt really dude, just going on 'Doctors choice' product, with regard to quality, the only thing ive bought form them before was ACAI - completely unrelated to this threads growing list of suggested supplements. ACAI was for slimming/detox benefit, but I saw no changes, but the contents of the capsules was very hig quality and tasted just like berries (not dust!) - so expect the Goji to be the same (should be dark red - stains!)
 

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It doesnt really dude, just going on 'Doctors choice' product, with regard to quality, the only thing ive bought form them before was ACAI - completely unrelated to this threads growing list of suggested supplements. ACAI was for slimming/detox benefit, but I saw no changes, but the contents of the capsules was very hig quality and tasted just like berries (not dust!) - so expect the Goji to be the same (should be dark red - stains!)
with you-its easy to go off on a different tanget.I think it might be an idea if you or someone could summarise where we are at for supplements that work in terms of increasing libido ,getting an erection and maintaining it whether it involves self or with a partner, increasing semen volume If ive missed anything please add to it Preferably all natural .tks
 
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ahh123, wanna take this one?
 
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with you-its easy to go off on a different tanget. .tks
also, its not really, its assessing the quality of their produce, sure ACAI is unrelated but if youre going to take something daily you want to trust your supplier. Their Acai was good, hopefully, for this threads benefit, the goji is just as good.
 
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Thanx for that feedback

It'll mainly be a photo androgen product. One ingredient acts as a GDA an has some ursoluc acid and may help with cortisol

Looking into 7,8 as I find it pretty awesome. As for the l dopa. I have it on natty v. This would be stackable for the ultimate experience
For a mild AI you could add, Ive used:

(S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-dihydroxy-2-phenyl-4H-1-benzopyran-4-one

Its not as strong as erase but i do get the joint ache, would be good in a test booster.
 
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One comment.. I dont know if this is the ongoing goji, or the week 5 of ISA-Test, but the missus asked me at the weekend "Has your penis got bigger... like from more use or something" (she doesnt know about test boost or goi effects) lol I had noticed everything felt a bit 'bigger' down there, balls and bag especially

It just all feels 'heavier' down there.

All good!
 
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Also found a plethora of alpha 2 antagonists that can work well with alpha y to increase erection and testosterone.
Been reading feedback from few guys on another forum that they use combination of alpha-1 (doxasozin) and alpha-2 (yohimbine) antagonist for erection boost.

Mechanism of this makes sense since alpha-1 antagonist prevents contraction of smooth muscles in penis (so blood can come in) and alpha-2 antagonist help in production of NO (which cause vasodilation) and work on increased production of certain substances in brain that also increase libido like dopamine.

A weak alpha-1 and alpha-2 antagonist is Phentolamine that is being used to cure performance anxiety and is being used in combo with PDE5 inhibitors like Viagra or Cialis.
 

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Do people become dependant on cialis? Im curious to try it out but am worried i'll need to consistently take it in order to achieve an erection. Also has anyone else seen any Goji benefits so far
 
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Do people become dependant on cialis? Im curious to try it out but am worried i'll need to consistently take it in order to achieve an erection. Also has anyone else seen any Goji benefits so far
Interestingly enough, my Urologist told me Cialis actually inhibits estrogen. Go figure....
 

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Interestingly enough, my Urologist told me Cialis actually inhibits estrogen. Go figure....
Interesting, I didn't know that. Cialis (active drug is called tadalafil) is a known PDE-5 inhibitor and I wouldn't have expected it being able to lower estrogen levels.

I just checked PubMed and I found this one study here: "Testosterone:estradiol ratio changes associated with long-term tadalafil administration: a pilot study"

It was supposed to be a pilot study and it is from 2006. So far, there haven't been any follow-up studies. Strangely enough, the estrogen decrease only occurred in lean subjects even though obese subjects generally have more estrogen. If there actually is a mechanism by which tadalafil exerts anti-aromatase activity, I wonder why it should only have an effect in lean subjects. I am not sure if I really trust this especially considering the low number of subjects they analyzed. Could be a subject-selection bias.
 

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I wouldn't call this a definite stack, but right after workouts I supplement my diet by...

Ingesting:
1 teaspoon of sesame seeds
1/4 cup olives
2 cloves of garlic (roasted, but raw works fine too)

Results:
~5 large loads every 2 days
~oddly enough also induces slight insomnia (4 hour sleep dent)
 

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Been taking 3g of 40% polysaccharide Goji for 2 weeks. So far no perceptible change in anything. Im sure it is quite healthy though
 
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Been taking 3g of 40% polysaccharide Goji for 2 weeks. So far no perceptible change in anything. Im sure it is quite healthy though
Is it a 4:1 extract or just dry goji containing 40% polysaccarides?

I'm still waiting now to get my Goji 4:1 from simplesupplements that should come already 1 week ago but weird with this shipping stuff and they said it need to pass 4 weeks before they can start investigation with shipping company what happened.

Maybe will buy from another UK company that has Doctor's Best Goji 4:1 at 600mg caps and no Magnesium Stearate inside.

Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
 

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Is it a 4:1 extract or just dry goji containing 40% polysaccarides?

I'm still waiting now to get my Goji 4:1 from simplesupplements that should come already 1 week ago but weird with this shipping stuff and they said it need to pass 4 weeks before they can start investigation with shipping company what happened.

Maybe will buy from another UK company that has Doctor's Best Goji 4:1 at 600mg caps and no Magnesium Stearate inside.

Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
hi where did you buy that from .

you probably know that simply supps are based in guernsey so your item has to come through customs. I expect with the olympic games being on , security will be exceptional tight and incoming freight/mail i dont see exempt from this.
 
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hi where did you buy that from .

you probably know that simply supps are based in guernsey so your item has to come through customs. I expect with the olympic games being on , security will be exceptional tight and incoming freight/mail i dont see exempt from this.
I bought 2 bottles of Tongkat from tongkatfitness which is UK merchant already last year so opened 2nd bottle 2 days ago.

No, didn't know that for simplesupplements and I ordered already July 13th but yeah they said shipping times prolonged to 15 business days which is 3 weeks.
Custom checking is why I buy supplements from UK and not US so this Guernsey location really sucks since now shipping time is same as ordering from US to get to my EU country.
I mean i paid for shipping more than for 120caps of Goji and not even got a tracking link.
 
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hi where did you buy that from .

you probably know that simply supps are based in guernsey so your item has to come through customs. I expect with the olympic games being on , security will be exceptional tight and incoming freight/mail i dont see exempt from this.
Really? I ordered 5 days ago and got mine yesterday

I dont live in london though

Also, I dont need a passport to fly to guernsey, so Im guessing parcels wont be delayed either
 

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Really? I ordered 5 days ago and got mine yesterday

I dont live in london though

Also, I dont need a passport to fly to guernsey, so Im guessing parcels wont be delayed either



true you dont but think of the volume of mail thats coming into Heathrow , from every country which has probably escalated since the athletes and all the hangers on have arrived
 

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Taking now Tongkat Ali 200:1 at 300mg caps 2x daily for 9 days and feeling nice boost.
I wished I could take it. But I always get a bad headache from anything containing Tongkat Ali.
 
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Give Goji a go
 

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Do you guys take your goji berry 4 caps a day or just one? Any noticeable difference?
 

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I wouldn't call this a definite stack, but right after workouts I supplement my diet by...

Ingesting:
1 teaspoon of sesame seeds
1/4 cup olives
2 cloves of garlic (roasted, but raw works fine too)

Results:
~5 large loads every 2 days
~oddly enough also induces slight insomnia (4 hour sleep dent)
Don't sesame seeds decrease testosterone? Also thats a pretty random/interesting stack. How did you come up with that?
 

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Give Goji a go
Will do that. Already placed my order at SimplySupplements.

Would you say the Goji extract provides more benefits in the erection quality or in the libido department? Because what I could mainly use is something that gets me horny and excited more easily. I am actually at the opposite end of what they call premature ejaculation.
 

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Will do that. Already placed my order at SimplySupplements.

Would you say the Goji extract provides more benefits in the erection quality or in the libido department? Because what I could mainly use is something that gets me horny and excited more easily. I am actually at the opposite end of what they call premature ejaculation.
i take goji berries , it hasnt helped me with libido but the erections in a morning seem harder but once im up out of bed there gone , and further stimulation during the day doesnt produce a hard an erection as id like Hormonal i have too much going on i think -high estrogen due to a periodic supply of testosterone by the NHS -trt- which i understand clears slower than the test , so my estrogen is piling up but no gyno thankfully so the bodys coping i guess,However its reflected in poor libido although the desire for sex is strong from watching porn to masterbation to sex with a partner. If theres anything preferbably herbal that would give a sensation down below to enable you to say "wow i do feel horny" then let me know. thanks
 
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Will do that. Already placed my order at SimplySupplements.

Would you say the Goji extract provides more benefits in the erection quality or in the libido department? Because what I could mainly use is something that gets me horny and excited more easily. I am actually at the opposite end of what they call premature ejaculation.
I'm also on similar boat with you trying to find a supplement that will get me crazy horny but mostly just get full balls to the point they hurt from so much juice inside and still not feel really horny.

Having an erection and not being really horny spoils the fun since you don't get an amazing experience but just an average one.

So far I've only tried herbal stuff but maybe I'd have to give it a try with dopamine agonist/prolactin inhibitor like cabergoline.
 
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My libido is normally on white hot fire anyway but I'm going to a German FKK soon to see just how many young Romanian girls I can "run through" in two days. My goal is ten and I'm 50 years old. LOL! I plan on "doing" a few of them two at a time to save time.

Weapon of choice to get me through all that will be Melanotan II and Cialis primarily. I'll also be taking Gogi, Fenugreek, Maca, and Bulgarian Tribulus. Of course - I'm also usually on some form of DAA and most likely it'll be Intimidate.

Oh - also this will be during my last week of PCT on Torem!

Wish me luck!!

EDIT: Refractory time will be an issue - because I'm sure that after 3 or 4 girls I'll start to need about 2 hours to recover and maybe more as the "misery" goes on. Fortunately the place opens at 10am and closes at 5am so I have a lot of time but if I can do more than 10 I'd like to try. Cabergoline - could be an option, but I tried it once and it didn't seem to do much. I've heard it only really kicks in if you have high prolactin - which I never do.
 

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I'm also on similar boat with you trying to find a supplement that will get me crazy horny but mostly just get full balls to the point they hurt from so much juice inside and still not feel really horny.

Having an erection and not being really horny spoils the fun since you don't get an amazing experience but just an average one.
Yes, exactly. And for me and my girlfriend, it is really hard work to get me to cum. Sometimes I can't even make it. It's not like I don't think she's hot. I just need something to get me really horny and make me more sensitive in the downstairs area.
 

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Isn't it kind of funny or weird that even non-AAS strength trainees/athletes/bodybuilders seem to have a lot more sex and sleep issues than the average Joe? But then again, maybe it's just because these things are more important to them.
 
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Isn't it kind of funny or weird that even non-AAS strength trainees/athletes/bodybuilders seem to have a lot more sex and sleep issues than the average Joe? But then again, maybe it's just because these things are more important to them.
We seek approval from opposite sex for our hard work. That's why we care haha
 

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What is a german fkk
Well, this gets a bit off-topic here. Anyway, FKK is the German acronym for "Freie Körperkultur" and this in its literal sense stands for "free body culture". There are areas like beaches or camping sites where you are allowed and supposed to walk around all naked. These are normal FKK areas. What HondaV65 probably refers to are things like spas or clubs where male guests and generally prostitutes but sometimes also female guests are all naked and are there to have/offer sex. I am from Germany but I have never been to such a place but heard of them.
 
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Well, this gets a bit off-topic here. Anyway, FKK is the German acronym for "Freie Körperkultur" and this in its literal sense stands for "free body culture". There are areas like beaches or camping sites where you are allowed and supposed to walk around all naked. These are normal FKK areas. What HondaV65 probably refers to are things like spas or clubs where male guests and generally prostitutes but sometimes also female guests are all naked and are there to have/offer sex. I am from Germany but I have never been to such a place but heard of them.
Germany is so FULL of WIN!! :laugh:
 
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You taking the goji extract? Actual berries or the juice?

If the extract, whats the dose you take to notice effects?
It will depend on your own body, but for me about 4 days in, taking 1 a day, im good to go, some may need two a day or at worst 3 (i wouldnt recommend overdoing it all the time)
 

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