Tyler's first Anabeta Elite log (sponsored)

If you are looking better and getting stronger screw what the scale says and listen to the mirror. :)
 
I am feeling much better today, after a full night's sleep. My throat is still a tiny bit sore, but I have no doubt that another full night of sleep will have me back to 100% tomorrow and ready to kill it in the gym and on the mats. Tomorrow is a pushing day. After having a lot of success with heavy dumbbell bench press last time, I am thinking of upping the weight again to see just how far I can push it. I think that I could do alright with 90s tomorrow, but I might need a little longer pause periods in my sets, since the act of lifting the dumbbells and getting into position is a little draining by itself. I will assess all of that during my warm-up sets tomorrow, but I am thinking that I can do 90s with 45-second pauses. I hope it goes well. As far as my appearance, I am seeing more definition in my mid-section now. I think I must be running out of places to lose fat, haha (my mid-section is always the last place to lose fat). I still have plenty left to lose, though, and I know the secret: ABE, clean dieting, and hard work.

Best,
Tyler
 
Glad to hear you are getting back to 100 percent man. ABE, strict diet and intense training equals shredded! Get it!
 
LiveToLift said:
Glad to hear you are getting back to 100 percent man. ABE, strict diet and intense training equals shredded! Get it!
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Yeah man, it sucks getting sick during an intense run like this. Hopefully I kick it within another day or two. Still working out the recomp diet as well. I started to go hypo today while teaching. I had to bum some food from a coworker as soon as class was over. Luckily he had a granola bar. I guess I went too low on the carbs today. I thought that I could do lower carbs on non-lifting days, but today I went too low. Good excuse to keep carbs a little higher though ;)
 
Well, another 8-hour night (with lots of really weird dreams...which were extra vivid thanks to Dopadex), and I am feeling just about 100% today. Just got home from work and can't wait to go range it up in the gym and then get my ass kicked by some master technicians on the mat! I am thinking I will continue the light warm-up cardio with a short HIIT cardio session post-workout. It kicked my ass on Wednesday, so I better keep doing it. Tonight is a pushing day. I will gauge warm-up sets to determine how heavy I go, but I am feeling good and can't wait! Since today is a workout day, I upped my carbs and protein a bit. I took a few fat grams out here and there to make up for it, but still got enough fats to be healthy (even when "not eating a lot of fats," they sneak their way in). I feel really good keeping fats a bit lower on workout days, and I think I am going to use this dieting plan on my workout days for the remainder of this log. On non-workout days, I will continue to reduce calories and carbs a bit, but will increase fats slightly. Tomorrow I have to go to a family reunion on my wife's side all day, so my next workout day after today will be Sunday. I will have to take a lot of protein packets and some prepared food to the reunion tomorrow. Now I will not just be the weird foreigner, I will be the really weird foreigner who brings food to a luncheon ;)

Best,
Tyler
 
HIIT over LISS for me also. Sounds like everything is going pretty good for you though :D.

As for going hypo, if this continues, I would does the ABE when you are going to consume more carbs then non. That usually seems to help many people. Personally, I can take it empty stomach and be totally fine, but seems for you and other, not so much.
 
Just got home from my workout. It was a day of amazing PRs and stupid mistakes. I KILLED it on dumbbell bench, Smith military and close-grip bench, setting PRs on ALL OF THEM ...but I also made stupid mistakes on dumbbell bench and Smith military. On dumbbell bench I got three reps with 90s easily, and on the fourth, I went down way too far (I don't know what the hell I was thinking), and failed as a result. I feel like I could have definitely gotten 4 or 5 reps if I had been more careful. I decided to rectify my mistake by making sure I got good second and third stage sets. I DEFINITELY did. I don't think I have ever screamed that loud in a gym ever. Definitely freaked out a lot of people and cared not at all about it. On Smith military, I again went heavier than I ever have before and had great results with the first two stages of my RP set, getting 3 and then 2 reps, respectively. Then on the third stage, I not only went waaaaaaaay too low (as if I didn't learn anything from my benching experience), I also moved the bar down way too fast. I was frozen at the bottom, had to strain my back to get the bar not to hit me in the nose, and then racked it at zero reps with a sore lat. Totally lame. Still got PRs though, and I think that next time I will eclipse them yet again! I am feeling AWESOME today, full of energy, and I was 84.5KG on the scale and looking great (except for my ...face ...but I work with what God gave me, haha).

I didn't have time to do sprints after because I was already an hour late for BJJ. I debated not going, but got my ass over there, went a hard 5 or 6 rounds with no rest against great dudes, and then got some awesome pointers on my half-guard game from a super technical Japanese dude that I can't wait to use next time. It was a great day. On a stupid note (yup, another stupid note), I heard someting pop in my lower back while I was shadow boxing to warm up a bit. It still feels a little tender (my lat is fine though, from the Military mishap), so hopefully it is fine when I wake up tomorrow. Anyway, here are my numbers:

Dumbbell flat bench: 90s x 3-2-2
Smith Military: 100KG (220 lbs) x 3-2-0
Close-grip flat bench: 80 KG (176 lbs) x 2-1-1 (this one I had a spotter for, so I was able to go to failure on all sets with nice form and controlled negatives)
Dumbbell side raise: 40s x 6-4-4, burnout with 20 x 14*
Dumbbell front raise: 45s x 7-4-3, burnout with 20 x 19*

*I didn't have perfect form for these, but wanted to work with heavy weights to encourage shoulder growth. Side raises I used a little bend in the elbow and a strong swing from the bottom position to help get the reps up. Front raises I used my hips a little to help pop em up. Then for the burnout sets I kept perfect form to absolute failure.

Technically, literally EVERY EXERCISE THAT I DID TODAY WAS A PR. So there's that. Next time, I want to shatter those PR's yet again. I am also considering upping it to 6 caps per day to get a feel for the difference in dosing (one of my goals in this log). I will count my caps on Sunday and think about it. I will update about dosing changes, and everything else. So far, this is by far the strongest and most effective supplement I have ever used, and I will be furious when it is over. I have my NY wedding at the end of June. I am thinking of running a bottle of AB + forskolin starting June 1 (about 3 weeks break from this run) to keep svelte and jacked for the trip back to NY. I FU**ING LOVE THIS STUFF is what I'm trying to express here. OK have to be up early for wife's family reunion tomorrow. Tyler, out!

Best,
Tyler
 
kbayne said:
HIIT over LISS for me also. Sounds like everything is going pretty good for you though :D.

As for going hypo, if this continues, I would does the ABE when you are going to consume more carbs then non. That usually seems to help many people. Personally, I can take it empty stomach and be totally fine, but seems for you and other, not so much.
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Thanks dude! I do always dose with carbs, but on this run have been going hypo sometimes hours after dosing. It's just THAT strong. Just have to make sure to keep my carbs a little higher than I was planning (which is a good thing, because I have been getting amazing results and still able to eat a decent amount of carbs). You can take it on an empty stomach with no dizzyness/hypo feelings and it still works? That's really interesting, as it makes me wonder about how many different things the extract does for the body.

Best,
Tyler
 
tyrub42 said:
Thanks dude! I do always dose with carbs, but on this run have been going hypo sometimes hours after dosing. It's just THAT strong. Just have to make sure to keep my carbs a little higher than I was planning (which is a good thing, because I have been getting amazing results and still able to eat a decent amount of carbs). You can take it on an empty stomach with no dizzyness/hypo feelings and it still works? That's really interesting, as it makes me wonder about how many different things the extract does for the body.

Best,
Tyler
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Really, haven't heard of going hypo post eating a meal. But ya, I can take it empty stomach and be perfectly fine. The forskolin for some people can make them get bad hypo effects. I will dose pre-bed sometimes if I am trying to cut and AB/ABE is making me too hungry. Always wake up looking harder and full :D.

BTW, congrats on all the PR's from todays workout man! That's great to hear. Personally, whenever I am trying to hit a certain number of reps, if I fail to reach it, I will drop the weight and grab a lighter weight and rep it out until I hit that weight. Really gets an awesome pump in.

But I am like you (along with 90% of everyone else on the forum), ABE is the sh!t.
 
kbayne said:
Really, haven't heard of going hypo post eating a meal. But ya, I can take it empty stomach and be perfectly fine. The forskolin for some people can make them get bad hypo effects. I will dose pre-bed sometimes if I am trying to cut and AB/ABE is making me too hungry. Always wake up looking harder and full :D.

BTW, congrats on all the PR's from todays workout man! That's great to hear. Personally, whenever I am trying to hit a certain number of reps, if I fail to reach it, I will drop the weight and grab a lighter weight and rep it out until I hit that weight. Really gets an awesome pump in.

But I am like you (along with 90% of everyone else on the forum), ABE is the sh!t.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh, so it is the forskolin that is increasing the nutrient repartitioning/insulin mimicking properties? OK that makes a lot of sense. I have been feeling that I need to eat more carbs on this run compared to original AB, but I thought it was just my body adjusting to the original compound. I had no idea forskolin did that. That explains a lot, too, because even on original AB, I always paid a price for lapses in dietary judgement (late night eating including a lot of carbs), but with ABE, I am amazed at how I look even after I have a dietary screw-up. Even now that I am super tight with my diet and recomping, I have been waking up at 4 or 5am STARVING to the point that I am in physical pain. I usually make a quick protein shake and get back to sleep. Man PES chose perfect additions to the original formula with ABE, and in doses that actually freakin work (that should not be nearly as uncommon as it is, but that's the supplement world we live in). Best part: it's usually only like 10-15 bucks more than the original formula. You just can't beat it!
 
tyrub42 said:
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, so it is the forskolin that is increasing the nutrient repartitioning/insulin mimicking properties? OK that makes a lot of sense. I have been feeling that I need to eat more carbs on this run compared to original AB, but I thought it was just my body adjusting to the original compound. I had no idea forskolin did that. That explains a lot, too, because even on original AB, I always paid a price for lapses in dietary judgement (late night eating including a lot of carbs), but with ABE, I am amazed at how I look even after I have a dietary screw-up. Even now that I am super tight with my diet and recomping, I have been waking up at 4 or 5am STARVING to the point that I am in physical pain. I usually make a quick protein shake and get back to sleep. Man PES chose perfect additions to the original formula with ABE, and in doses that actually freakin work (that should not be nearly as uncommon as it is, but that's the supplement world we live in). Best part: it's usually only like 10-15 bucks more than the original formula. You just can't beat it!
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The anacyclus pyrethrum is still the ingredient causing GDA effects. The forskolin really helps in the body composition area (test booster, muscle growth, fat loss, etc). But yes, the forskolin goes very nicely with the anacyclus pyrethrum mainly because it is a test booster going along side a natural anabolic.
 
Getting ready to go to this family reunion. I am bringing about 100 grams of protein with me. 3 sample packets of protein powder, and a chicken breast. There should be a decent amount of stuff I can eat there (lots of seafood), so I should be safe with what that plus what I brought.

In a sleepy haze, I ate a packet of chocolate cereal last night (160 cal, 21 grams carbs), so there goes my cheat meal. I was hoping to be able to get some tacos in tomorrow, but oh well. Hopefully today goes smoothly, and I end up back home at a reasonable hour (It's also pouring)

Best,
Tyler
 
Well, I got home early, so I am off to the gym now! Family reunion was pretty fun. Felt pretty bad for not drinking with the wife's family (old Taiwanese men are freaking awesome; they love their booze...and, according to stereotypes here, so do foreigners, so they were sad to hear that I had to lay off the sauce), but they understood. I think. My Chinese isn't good enough to explain much beyond having to exercise and eat very carefully recently. Anyway, time to go hit legs!

Best,
Tyler
 
Well, I just got back from my leg workout (threw a couple of sets of bent-over shrugs and regular shrugs in for good measure, but went fairly light on them), and it was a good one. I tried doing those split stance Romanian dead lifts that were on the AM front page yesterday. I liked them in theory, but I think they require a trap bar to do properly. I couldn't get the weight position right with the normal bar. The gym I normally go to on Saturdays has a hex bar, so I will try it eventually. Instead I went back to regular Romanian dead lifts, and enjoyed frying my hamstrings with them. After that, I went for Bulgarian split squats again. I decided to go back to the beginning. I looked in depth at the perfect form and the dos and don'ts and went very slowly all the way to the ground (my supporting knee touched the ground). It felt great; more isolated than before and really got into my quads. I finished with a few sets of calf raises, and neck strengthening isometric exercises and then fired up the HIIT cardio. It KILLED me again today. I almost fainted. I love how hard I have to force myself to go with that cardio style. After that, I stretched everything and came back here and wrote this!

One funny story from today. The gym had a new worker today; he is younger and gave off kind of a tough guy vibe. He wasn't huge but did have veins popping out everywhere (which I could see because he had the sleeves of his work shirt rolled up for some reason). I saw him "showing" someone how to use the pull down machine, and then working in with him. He pulled a classic move that we have all seen. He put the weight pin at the max, had someone pull him into the leg locking bar (nothing wrong with that as I need that, too), and then proceeded to scream as he flexed his lower back 90 freaking degrees on each rep to try to help him get the bar to his chest (which he still didn't quite do). I tried to politely tell him that he should do less weight and do the exercise properly or else he might hurt his back. He just put his hand up and walked away with a know-it-all look. I chose not to tell him that I do the same weight he tried to do properly and for twice as many reps, and instead not talk to him again. I did catch him doing the same thing out of the corner of my eye and had a good laugh to myself. It's always funny seeing stuff like that. Some people will never learn until they end up in sports rehab. Anyway, it was a good night overall.

Best,
Tyler
 
tyrub42 said:
Well, I just got back from my leg workout (threw a couple of sets of bent-over shrugs and regular shrugs in for good measure, but went fairly light on them), and it was a good one. I tried doing those split stance Romanian dead lifts that were on the AM front page yesterday. I liked them in theory, but I think they require a trap bar to do properly. I couldn't get the weight position right with the normal bar. The gym I normally go to on Saturdays has a hex bar, so I will try it eventually. Instead I went back to regular Romanian dead lifts, and enjoyed frying my hamstrings with them. After that, I went for Bulgarian split squats again. I decided to go back to the beginning. I looked in depth at the perfect form and the dos and don'ts and went very slowly all the way to the ground (my supporting knee touched the ground). It felt great; more isolated than before and really got into my quads. I finished with a few sets of calf raises, and neck strengthening isometric exercises and then fired up the HIIT cardio. It KILLED me again today. I almost fainted. I love how hard I have to force myself to go with that cardio style. After that, I stretched everything and came back here and wrote this!

One funny story from today. The gym had a new worker today; he is younger and gave off kind of a tough guy vibe. He wasn't huge but did have veins popping out everywhere (which I could see because he had the sleeves of his work shirt rolled up for some reason). I saw him "showing" someone how to use the pull down machine, and then working in with him. He pulled a classic move that we have all seen. He put the weight pin at the max, had someone pull him into the leg locking bar (nothing wrong with that as I need that, too), and then proceeded to scream as he flexed his lower back 90 freaking degrees on each rep to try to help him get the bar to his chest (which he still didn't quite do). I tried to politely tell him that he should do less weight and do the exercise properly or else he might hurt his back. He just put his hand up and walked away with a know-it-all look. I chose not to tell him that I do the same weight he tried to do properly and for twice as many reps, and instead not talk to him again. I did catch him doing the same thing out of the corner of my eye and had a good laugh to myself. It's always funny seeing stuff like that. Some people will never learn until they end up in sports rehab. Anyway, it was a good night overall.

Best,
Tyler
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I've just stopped giving suggestions like that because of how many people get offended. I especially see goofy stuff on deadlifts and squats and want to help them not snap their spine in half, but they seem to want to learn the hard way lol. Glad to see you are still owning your training.
 
Well, it is a rest day, but I am feeling good and also ate like sh*t yesterday and ate too much sugar earlier today, so I am going to go work some cardio (and maybe some abs...or just extra cardio) to make up for it. I have about two weeks left (maybe a bit more). I am thinking about upping it to 6 pills/day so I can more accurately compare AB to ABE (and it would also probably feel awesome!). What do you guys think?

Best,
Tyler
 
Honestly, I would stick with 4 caps. I've ran 6 before just to see if I could feel/see a difference, and there wasn't much of a difference/nothing at all to notice between 4 and 6 caps.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Honestly, you probably won't see or feel any difference between 4 and 6 pills per day. I would stick with 4:)
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Thanks for the reply. I have been at 5 per day for a few weeks now. So far, the difference between 4 and 5 was pretty huge for me. I went up to 6 on the original AB with a lot of success, but I feel a stronger overall effect from ABE at 5/day. Do you think that the ABE formula doesn't lend itself as well to higher dosing, or should I just go ahead and give 6 a shot if 6 of the original formula treated me really well? I would get two extra days of dosing if I stayed at 5, but neither of them would be a heavy lifting day (Sat and Sun) if that helps. Thanks again for the information! I am definitely hoping to end this log up as tightly as possible.

Best,
Tyler
 
kbayne said:
Honestly, I would stick with 4 caps. I've ran 6 before just to see if I could feel/see a difference, and there wasn't much of a difference/nothing at all to notice between 4 and 6 caps.
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Thanks for the reply, Kbayne! Please check out my reply to Aleksandar37 above and let me know what you think if you have a chance. Did you ever try running original AB at 6/day? If so, was there a bigger difference to notice there than with ABE? I felt a huge difference from 4 to 6 with the original formula, but so far all of these recommendations are telling me not to go higher, and, if anything, to lower it back to 4 with ABE so I am pretty confused. Let me know if you have time, and I will report any dosing changes if any. Thanks again!

Best,
Tyler
 
I ran 6 caps of OG Anabeta and didn't notice much of a difference from 4 caps. I never did run above 4 caps of ABE. The higher dose of ABE could be more beneficial mainly because of the added Forskolin. I'm not saying you shouldn't try 6 caps, and if you felt a big difference on 6 caps on the OG Anabeta, then give 5 or 6 a try on ABE just to see how it works for you. Everyone reacts differently obviously, but would be interested and see what you report back on the results if you do decide to go higher on the dosage.
 
kbayne said:
I ran 6 caps of OG Anabeta and didn't notice much of a difference from 4 caps. I never did run above 4 caps of ABE. The higher dose of ABE could be more beneficial mainly because of the added Forskolin. I'm not saying you shouldn't try 6 caps, and if you felt a big difference on 6 caps on the OG Anabeta, then give 5 or 6 a try on ABE just to see how it works for you. Everyone reacts differently obviously, but would be interested and see what you report back on the results if you do decide to go higher on the dosage.
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Just grab a bottle of extra forskolin and its g2g ;)
 
kbayne said:
I ran 6 caps of OG Anabeta and didn't notice much of a difference from 4 caps. I never did run above 4 caps of ABE. The higher dose of ABE could be more beneficial mainly because of the added Forskolin. I'm not saying you shouldn't try 6 caps, and if you felt a big difference on 6 caps on the OG Anabeta, then give 5 or 6 a try on ABE just to see how it works for you. Everyone reacts differently obviously, but would be interested and see what you report back on the results if you do decide to go higher on the dosage.
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Done and done! Now I am officially on 6 caps per day. Planning to end this log with a bang!
 
tyrub42 said:
Thanks for the reply. I have been at 5 per day for a few weeks now. So far, the difference between 4 and 5 was pretty huge for me. I went up to 6 on the original AB with a lot of success, but I feel a stronger overall effect from ABE at 5/day. Do you think that the ABE formula doesn't lend itself as well to higher dosing, or should I just go ahead and give 6 a shot if 6 of the original formula treated me really well? I would get two extra days of dosing if I stayed at 5, but neither of them would be a heavy lifting day (Sat and Sun) if that helps. Thanks again for the information! I am definitely hoping to end this log up as tightly as possible.

Best,
Tyler
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It's worth trying to see then, but I also like the suggestion to just add in extra forskolin. Most seem to not see much after 4, but if going to 5 was a huge difference, then 6 is definitely worth a shot.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
It's worth trying to see then, but I also like the suggestion to just add in extra forskolin. Most seem to not see much after 4, but if going to 5 was a huge difference, then 6 is definitely worth a shot.
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OK awesome, thanks! Yeah, I had a huge difference from 4 to 6 with original AB (the energy was CRAZY at 6 to the point that I didn't even notice when I forgot to take a PWO), so I decided to jump to 6 ABE. Also, part of the reason for this log is to directly compare original AB to ABE so getting doses of 4, 5, and 6 per day will help me do that more effectively.

I have had a lot of effects that are uncommon, though, so I guess I am in the minority with a lot of things with the original AB compound. I get insulin mimicking effects so strong that I have gone hypo once on this log 4 hours after dosing WITH 40-50g carbs (but other times, I can dose with minimal carbs without much problem). I get energizing effects so strong that I can function on less sleep AND I can't take it within several hours of sleep. I can sleep a few hours after 1,3 DMAA/caffeine with a mild sleep aid, but if I dose AB/ABE post-workout, I can't sleep (now that I have figured the dosing schedule out, though, this log has been great and with the added Dopadex I am sleeping as well as I ever have before). And while others have mentioned libido increases, I get a slight decrease on the original AB extract. It's not a big decrease, but it is there and has happened every time I have taken it. There is also a huge decrease in overall volume of...well you know...to the point that my wife wanted me to see a doctor before I explained what was happening. The added Fenugreek has reversed the hell out of that, though, and now the wife is complaining about me needing too much attention again (and the nightly L-Dopa always ensures I get to sleep later than I want to, if you know what I mean).

Original AB is the first and only compound I have tried to which I seem like a super responder. I used to read threads about people's responses to herbal supps, and then try them and be heartbroken that they did nothing for me. Prime was the worst for me. One of my best buds here is a Prime JUNKIE, and raved to me about it for months. I read forums, and everyone LOVED it. I already loved USP and knew they made great stuff, and finally got my chance to try it. Nothing. Literally. It was heartbreaking because I had spent SO LONG getting super excited about it, and didn't even think that it was possible to get nothing out of it. Then came the Pink Magic IC release. Super psyched, detailed my diet and workout plan, dosed perfectly, and...nothing. Then came the Compound 20 IC release. To this day I think I am the only person I have ever heard of who got nothing from Compound 20. Everyone loved it. I felt it for 5 days and got so excited. "This is finally it," I thought. Then nothing. The effects just stopped. Granted there were a lot of people who didn't end up responding to Pink Magic, but Prime and C20 are hugely popular and most people get great effects from them. I also know that USP doesn't make shi**y products, and they are a reputable company (which is why I tried almost everything they make...and I don't think I would be able to be pain free 24/7 without my Supercissus). I have just always had bad luck. DAA, creatine, T-force, and more have all had no or almost no effect (I still dose creatine because of the negligible price tag, but I don't know if it is really helping at all). I bought a bottle of Anabeta as a last ditch effort. It was cheap and I read some great reviews, a few of which mentioned that it worked when other things didn't work. Ever since then, I have never looked back. It was amazing stuff. I didn't even put 2 and 2 together when I started really feeling it. I just thought life was great. Now trying ABE is like discovering AB all over again. Everything I loved about AB is still here, and there are a bunch of new effects that take it from great to incredible. Original AB made it easier to put on size and not put on much fat, but losing fat wasn't all that easy and took a ton of work and planning. ABE is melting fat off. Yeah, it still takes hard work, but fat is melting off so much faster than it normally would, I can see a difference almost daily. Vascularity is even better on the Elite. Mood is still great, but I am feeling somehow even better than on the original. All the energy is there, but I somehow feel really calm and relaxed at the same time. The biggest difference overall is the fat loss. I am a fat kid. I will always be one. I was fat all my life, and I topped off when I was 16, 5'8", 260lbs before I decided that I was going to change all of that. I am not fat now, but I will always have fat genes. If I eat too much one night, I look like crap for days until I can work it off. My body loves collecting fat, especially around my mid-section. On ABE, it comes right off, and if I screw up my diet, my body is actually pretty forgiving for once. Anyway, really thrilled about it. The only sad part is that this log concludes in 2 weeks. Then what am I supposed to do, PES? Just go back to normal? Well, that's gonna suck now that I know what this feels like! Haha, anyway, I can't thank you guys enough for bringing this compound to the masses and adding forskolin and 7OH in the mix so guys like me can know what it's like to have good genetics for a few weeks at a time. Now, then, it's time to lift, run, roll, and eat!

Best,
Tyler
 
tyrub42 said:
The only sad part is that this log concludes in 2 weeks. Then what am I supposed to do, PES? Just go back to normal? Well, that's gonna suck now that I know what this feels like! Haha, anyway, I can't thank you guys enough for bringing this compound to the masses and adding forskolin and 7OH in the mix so guys like me can know what it's like to have good genetics for a few weeks at a time. Now, then, it's time to lift, run, roll, and eat!

Best,
Tyler
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This is the spot I'm in right now lol. 4 weeks of being mortal, but I have the Enhanced to keep it going. I'm so happy that you respond to it so well and that it is helping you reach your goals! It has helped me greatly now that I'm in my late 30's and my metabolism seems to change drastically every year now.
 
You do seem to respond very well to these products. I hate taking time off from them but it just makes you appreciate it that much more!
 
Yesterday, I did bent-over rows and I felt like every stage of my set, my forearms gave out before my back. I tried using straps and they made it worse instead of better! On the last round, I had to take off the straps and alternate over-under (half left over right under, half right over left under). This sucks! I really want to push the BORs but this is a serious roadblock. When doing and over-under grip, I can do ridiculously more weight (like 50 pounds or more over double over grip), but I read that it isn't good to use that grip with rows. It sucks to be in this situation. I always thought that my grip strength was legit, but I guess it isn't (or my back is just THAT strong, haha). I am pretty bummed about it to be honest. Any suggestions?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
This is the spot I'm in right now lol. 4 weeks of being mortal, but I have the Enhanced to keep it going. I'm so happy that you respond to it so well and that it is helping you reach your goals! It has helped me greatly now that I'm in my late 30's and my metabolism seems to change drastically every year now.
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Man I am afraid of that. I am closing in on 30 myself. My metabolism always sucked so I am not sure I can handle it getting worse, haha!
 
Here is my workout summary from yesterday (Monday, April 29)

Bent-over row: 100KG (~220lbs) x 2-2-4(the 4 at the end was when I switched to an over-under grip, switching my over and under hands after two reps)
Double-pulley cable pull down ( *I will explain below): 96KG (~210lbs) x 10-4-3
Double-pulley cable curl (**also will need to explain this one): 42.5kg (~94 lbs) x 3-2-2
Dumbbell hammer curl: 40 lb dumbbells x 6-1-2

-10 min cardio warmup
-20 min of post-workout HIIT with 1 min sprints and 1 min rests. I am adjusting slowly to these and will be up to 30 second rests soon
-~1 hour of no-gi JJ without breaks, then about 40 min of drilling/learning new techniques

*The double pulley machine is a weird one. I explained it earlier in this log, but I think a pic is necessary: Invalid Link Removed (there is also a standard pull down bar that can be placed on here for regular-wide grip pull downs). I thought the machine was pretty stupid, but on the bright side it is really smooth and has an almost elastic feel to it (like a band-loaded machine or something)
** the double pulley machine that I used for arms was this one: Invalid Link Removed
It worked out pretty well and did feel different than most other bicep exercises, but I still think these machines are taking up way too much space in my gym.

Overall I felt really good, but I am having a hard time keeping my grip strength up with my back strength (see above post for details). Aside from that, I am feeling great.

Best,
Tyler
 
After doing some research, it seems like I am probably (definitely) using my straps the wrong way. First off, I was using them with gloves, which has to be a mistake. More than that, it seems like, when used correctly, you can tighten the wraps as much as you want with no slippage of the bar under the strap. My experience yesterday left me with an overall LOOSER grip than when I used no straps. I will try some practice runs with bent-over rows/shrugs on Friday after I finish rack deadlifts. Hopefully I am just being an idiot about it. Also, after reading about increasing grip strength, it seems like the best thing to do is heavy dumbbell rows. I do those A LOT, so I should be moving in the right direction, but my gym's dumbbells only go up to 100lbs. I wish I had access to higher weights, but that's the world I live in. I am sure I can make due by just working the 100s for more and more reps, like I have been doing. The hours and hours of bjj should be helping my grip as well. I am at the point where I occasionally hear that my grip feels like it is going to break someone's wrist. That always makes me smile (which makes me sound like a d*ck, but I just like to know I am increasing my grip strength ;)).

Do you guys have any secrets for increasing grip strength? If so, please share!

Best,
Tyler
 
OK guys I have big problems and I need your help. Today I felt amazing all day, and went to the gym loaded with energy and ready to own. When I did my Dumbbell flat bench, I expected to hit 90s x 5 for my first round of my rest-pause set. I failed after 3 reps, then hit 0 and then 1. The last time I did the same exercise, I hit 90 x 3-2-2 and felt like I could have gone higher if I did my sets properly. On my other lifts, I also felt oddly drained, and in the later stages of my rest pause sets, my numbers were much lower than they should have been. I started feeling weak overall, and after my second RP round on Smith military, I got super lightheaded and started seeing spots all over (it felt like a mushroom flashback...except not awesome!). I continued the RP sets, but I kept feeling lightheaded and a bit nauseated, and was afraid I was going to faint. I did recently up my ABE to 6 caps/day from 5, but I see no reason why this could have caused it. I also know I did not go hypo, as the feeling was completely different, and I still don't feel any craving for carbs, or food in general. I did chew a piece of Thermogum at 1 PM, but I have been doing that fairly frequently with no consequence.

Basically, I am pretty sure that the culprit is CNS fatigue. There are several reasons why I feel that this is the case:

-I have been on DC-style lifting for about 7 weeks now.
-I have been lifting heavier and with higher intensity than I ever have before (and for lower reps than usual)
-This whole week, I have been suspecting that CNS fatigue was kicking in. I have randomly felt exhausted during the day, even if I got 8 hours of sleep the night before. After awhile, the exhaustion might wear off and I feel super energized again, only to return again later. In addition, my workout on Monday felt weaker than I was expecting. I attributed it to just having an off day, but the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

Normally, my remedy for this would be simple: blast phase is over, cruise (take it easy) for a few weeks, problem solved. However, there is no way in hell I want to do that now. I have 10 days left on this log, and I am not ready to stop killing it in the gym just yet. I came up with a plan to try to solve this. Please let me know what you think.

Plan:
-take the next four days off from lifting (thurs, fri, sat, sun off, return mon)
-continue to do bjj (keep it relatively light) and steady state, low-intensity cardio until then
-Lift nice and hard MWF next week to complete my log, and then take two or three weeks of a lower-intensity lifting program to let my CNS fully recover

Does this sound like it would work? Does anyone have experience with this type of problem? Please let me know; I am totally lost here, and I don't want to screw up the end of this log.

Also, please let me know if there is anything else I can eat/drink/supplement with to help. I take a multi and a B complex every day, as well as 500mg of vit C (for the past week) and a green shake that includes some anti-oxidants. Is there anything I should be doing to help my CNS recover faster? Double my B complex? Up the vit C? Should I buy vit D3 and/or zinc and take that? I also have ALCAR in the fridge. Would taking that help? If so, when should I dose and how much? Sorry for these questions, but I am so bummed right now. I have never looked this full or vascular, BUT I have also stopped losing fat for the past week or so (I think it's the CNS). I want to get myself back on the horse and end this log right. Please give me all the help you can!

Best,
Tyler

P.S.- I will post my workout numbers tomorrow, but I want people to see this message and respond to it first, because this sh*t's important! Thanks in advance for any help.

Best,
Tyler
 
Is this the first workout that you experienced such a decrease in strength? Things like that can happen from time to time and it may not be a full indicator of how things are.

You do mention you have felt a little run down lately so you may need to back the intensity down a bit to recover more but keep in mind it could have just been a bad session, etc. Any other changes in diet over the last week either?
 
bolt10 said:
Is this the first workout that you experienced such a decrease in strength? Things like that can happen from time to time and it may not be a full indicator of how things are.

You do mention you have felt a little run down lately so you may need to back the intensity down a bit to recover more but keep in mind it could have just been a bad session, etc. Any other changes in diet over the last week either?
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Hey Bolt,

-This is not the first, but it is the biggest decrease in strength and biggest BY FAR in endurance. Also the first one where I felt really lightheaded/nauseous after intense sets. I would say I have been feeling run down for the past 5-7 days, and it has gotten progressively worse.
-No big changes to diet. Still doing recomp diet with high protein, med-low carb, and med-low fat. Pretty similar to my original recomp plan, but with a few more carbs thrown in on lifting days, and with ABE dosing.

What do you think of my plan for recovery? Do you think it could set me straight in 4 days? Any suggestions for changes to that, or to supplementation? Thanks for responding so quick, dude!!!

Best,
Tyler
 
Ya the intensity of the workouts and the additional work you do for your sport could be just too much at the moment. I do like the plan you have set out and you could see if you feel better with some days off from the gym. I'd take it easy and see how you feel after the weekend then go from there.

I know you don't want to end on a low note with the log but you have done an awesome job and had some very nice results so don't beat your body into the ground just for the sake of trying to maximize the products. :)
 
bolt10 said:
Ya the intensity of the workouts and the additional work you do for your sport could be just too much at the moment. I do like the plan you have set out and you could see if you feel better with some days off from the gym. I'd take it easy and see how you feel after the weekend then go from there.

I know you don't want to end on a low note with the log but you have done an awesome job and had some very nice results so don't beat your body into the ground just for the sake of trying to maximize the products. :)
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Thanks, for the support, dude. I really need it about now. I just spoke with the Taiwan BJJ strength and conditioning coach (my friend, Jackie), and she recommended 2 days of literally nothing. Upping creatine/BCAA/recovery supps, and foam rolling, hot/cold soaks, meditation, etc. After the 2 days, ease into low intensity stuff and see how I feel. She thinks I will prob feel like a million bucks by Monday, and pointed out that many people set PRs after a few days off. I am feeling much better about the situation, although I don't envy how strict I will have to keep my diet during this break ;). If you have any other suggestions, let me know. And thanks again for all the support and kind words. Honestly, I have never worked so hard as during this and the last sponsored logs I have done. I take these opportunities really seriously and want to show the PES team my gratitude by giving 110% to these logs (I think it shows in my thoroughness and progress). It's the least I can do, really. That's why I am so bummed about this happening (even if strength doesn't suffer, my recomp will prob suffer at least a bit as a result of the rest days). However, you are right. If I need to do it, I need to do it. I still plan on finishing this log like a champ and getting the kind of results that I know i can get!

Best,
Tyler
 
On the plus side, I still look bigger, fuller, and way more vascular than ever. I have shoulder veins starting to come out! It's not much of a bright side, but I will take what I can get!
 
Hey man, bolt gave you some great advice about and explanation about why your strength may have decreased a bit. I also suggest taking a few days off from lifting. Try and rest as much as you can to let you body recover. Also, don't worry about your recomp/diet hurting you, just watch what you eat and keep the carbs lower then usual and up the fats a bit (this is what I usually do when I take time off). A few days rest (except for some light cardio which you plan to do) will do your body good and have you back in the gym feeling good again. But that is awesome to hear that you are feeling bigger, fuller, and more vascular man :D. That is a huge plus for anyone IMO. Don't let this minor set back effect you or have you getting down on yourself. Happens to everyone and you will be back in no time.
 
kbayne said:
Hey man, bolt gave you some great advice about and explanation about why your strength may have decreased a bit. I also suggest taking a few days off from lifting. Try and rest as much as you can to let you body recover. Also, don't worry about your recomp/diet hurting you, just watch what you eat and keep the carbs lower then usual and up the fats a bit (this is what I usually do when I take time off). A few days rest (except for some light cardio which you plan to do) will do your body good and have you back in the gym feeling good again. But that is awesome to hear that you are feeling bigger, fuller, and more vascular man :D. That is a huge plus for anyone IMO. Don't let this minor set back effect you or have you getting down on yourself. Happens to everyone and you will be back in no time.
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Thanks dude! Yeah I am still not particularly thrilled about this, but after researching everything, I am confident that I can be back and stronger than ever on Monday. One thing though, it seems that carbs can have a beneficial effect on CNS recovery, so I think I shouldn't lower them and possibly increase slightly, just eliminating them in the latter part of the day. BCAAs also seem to be universally recommended, so I will make sure to keep up with those to encourage recovery. It sucks, though, the ABE is still in full force, so I feel like running to the gym right now, even though I have to wait. Oh well. On the plus side, it seems like the fat-loss issue wasn't just in my head, and I might actually continue to see some fat loss as my CNS recovers, even during my break.

The one thing I will have to be incredibly strict about, though, is junk food. It seems to have no place at all in this recovery diet, and can easily make CNS fatigue worse through the ingestion of preservatives and refined/low-quality ingredients. I have also been suggested to eat more green veggies, which will be no problem, and to keep my water intake high. I will try as hard as I can with the water, but it is always harder when I am not working out. I always get above 1 gallon, but I think closer to 1.5-2 will be better for me. Thanks for the tips, kbayne and bolt!

Best,
Tyler
 
Hey Tyler,

Good log mate with plenty of detail. I have a quick question. This rest pause training, for example if doing bench press, do you do 7 reps (to failure) then rack the bar and wait 10 tp 15 seconds and then more reps to failure, then wait another 10 to 15 seconds and more reps to failure. If this is the case would is that all you do for bench press or is that one set and then you may do more sets?
 
travwj said:
Hey Tyler,

Good log mate with plenty of detail. I have a quick question. This rest pause training, for example if doing bench press, do you do 7 reps (to failure) then rack the bar and wait 10 tp 15 seconds and then more reps to failure, then wait another 10 to 15 seconds and more reps to failure. If this is the case would is that all you do for bench press or is that one set and then you may do more sets?
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Hi Trav, thanks for following! That is a pretty accurate description of RP training, but there are a few things I should note. First, I do warm-up sets to get my body ready. For example, when I use 90lb dumbbells for bench, I usually do 4-6 warm-up sets first, depending on how I feel. Warm-up sets are not meant to exert any heavy workload from your muscles, so if I feel myself straining at all, I have made a miscalculation and stop immediately. My warm-up routine to get to 90s might look like this:

45s x 8
60s x 5
75 x 2
85 x 1

I rest for 20-60 seconds between warm-up sets, depending on the exercise and what my body is telling me. After I finish the last warm-up set, I re-rack the 85s, get the 90s ready (close to or on my bench, ready to grab so I don't have to travel with them), and then wait 3 minutes while getting myself in the zone to kill it.

During the set, you can rest for different amounts of time in between your RP reps. Some people don't use a watch, and just count 10-12 deep breaths. I rest for 30 seconds, but when using heavy dumbbells and low reps, I upped it to 40 seconds, because just picking up the dumbbells and getting into position takes a toll, so I thought a few more seconds would be good. I also grab the weights off the floor QUICKLY and get them back to the bench before I start my count, so they are ready to go again when I am ready.

The most important part, in my opinion, is recognizing the difference between fatigue and failure. I can honestly say that I am the only person I see in my gym who trains to failure (in an American gym, that might be different). Most people I see have a specific rep number in mind (they do 8, then stop, even though they can do more, for example), or they "train to failure," by going until their muscles are fatigued and reps get hard to push and then stopping. For me, failure is failure. I am screaming if I have to, giving it 100% intent on beating my last numbers, and going until I absolutely cannot go anymore. Then I take my 30 seconds, breath deeply, and do it all again to 100% failure. Then I take 30 seconds again, breath deeply again, and rep to absolute failure again.

The last time I worked out with a buddy, he was really skeptical about the 1-set-per-body-part thing. Even after we were done, he said he didn't think he got a good enough workout off of it. He usually does 5 sets of several different exercises per part, totaling up to 30 working sets per workout. I called him two days later to see how he felt. He said he could barely move his arms and his lats felt like they were going to fall off.

If you are interested in trying RP training, I invite you to google DC lifting. That is the basic format I use (modified a bit because I have an old lower back issue). Ever since the first time I tried it, I was hooked. The only thing to look out for are signs of CNS fatigue (which, as you have read, I am experiencing now), since the lifting style is so much more intense than what most people (and nervous systems) are used to. I think the general recommendation is to follow the DC program for 6-8 weeks, and then switch to a lower-intensity program (like a 5 x 5, or whatever you enjoyed the most before doing DC) for 2 weeks to let your CNS recover. They use the term "blast" for the DC periods and "cruise" for the lower-intensity periods.

I hope this was of some help! I can't recommend this lifting style enough. It has really gotten me refocused on progress and strength, and it always gets me so excited to get into the gym. If you have any more questions, please post here, or PM me. Thanks again for following!

Best,
Tyler
 
Here is my workout summary from yesterday:

-Dumbbell flat bench: 90s x 3-0-1
-Smith military press: 85 KG (including 20 for the bar) (187 lbs) x 5-2-1 (I started seeing stars after the middle set...scared the crap out of me)
-Upright row: 136 lbs (had to up the weight because I borrowed someone else's bar and didn't want to unload and load it again) x 4-2-2
-Triceps cable press down: 180 lbs x 3-2-2
-Cable side raise (on that cable machine I posted the link to the other day): 12.5 KG (27.5 lbs) x 6-5-5
-Cable front raise with a bar attachment (same machine as side raises): 17.5KG (38.5 lbs) x 10-6-6

No extra comments on how I felt. That is pretty well-detailed in yesterday's posts (short version: horrible). Aside from CNS issues, I have never looked as vascular as I look now. I think that my fat loss will start up again in a few days when my CNS is recovered as well.

Best,
Tyler
 
Thanks Tyler

Some decent numbers there. I have read up on DC training before, and after reading your log, will look into it again.

I have only used og anabeta and have read your log on that. So I am interested to see if you believe there is a noticeable difference between og anabeta and ABE.

Keep it up.
Trav
 
travwj said:
Thanks Tyler

Some decent numbers there. I have read up on DC training before, and after reading your log, will look into it again.

I have only used og anabeta and have read your log on that. So I am interested to see if you believe there is a noticeable difference between og anabeta and ABE.

Keep it up.
Trav
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Hey man,

Honestly, I was pretty skeptical about how big of a difference there would be between AB and ABE, but after trying both, the difference is huge. ABE has accelerated fat loss, lessened the impact of over eating on my physique, and made me feel great in general. Regular AB was my favorite supplement until 6 weeks ago. Now, ABE has replaced it. I think the big difference between PES stuff and a lot of other "proprietary blend" supplements, is that PES is using ingredients that are already proven to work, and they throw in real, working doses of them. Unlike a lot of other "kitchen sink" blends, you are getting the same amount of Anacyclus extract, forskolin extract, and 7 KETO that you would use by themselves, all combined into one pill. There is not a huge difference in mood compared to the original (I think I am feeling slightly calmer under pressure, which could be from the 7 KETO, but that could be in my head), but the original made such a positive difference in my mood that I didn't expect it to be improved very much. The GDA effects seem to be stronger with ABE, but again, that could always be my body responding better to the anacyclus (but I suspect that it is from the forskolin). The only huge difference, though, is the fat melting effect, and man I love that. I am normally the type of dude who can ruin a week's worth of hard work by hitting up a bar and then McDonald's on the way home on Friday. With ABE, my genetics are not getting the best of me, even if I slip up and eat a bunch of junk one night here or there. I think that this is what most other people are noticing, too. Just beware of some claims, like "I eat whatever I want all the time. I never stop eating and I am still getting thinner and stronger!" I don't know who is lucky enough to have those genetics, but if you are like me, just keep in mind that ABE will do wonders combined with good diet and hard work. I am, however, still sure that if I ate a couple of Big Macs every night before bed and dogged it in the gym, I would not have made close to the progress that I have made on this log.

To sum up, though. Is there a difference? Yes! Is the difference noticeable? Definitely! Is it worth the extra 10-20 bucks over the original formula? Hell yes! This is especially true if you struggle to lose fat and gain lean mass, like me.

Best,
Tyler
 
Friday update.

I haven't exerted myself physically since Wednesday. The only exercise I have gotten is walking up 5 flights of stairs to teach a class yesterday. I have been eating more green veggies, continuing BCAA/creatine supplementation as well as all of my vitamins, fish oil, etc. I have not eaten a single thing that I haven't cooked myself, except for vegetables that I have eaten that are cooked by our school "chef." I have upped my carbs slightly throughout the day, as there seems to be evidence that carbs help CNS recovery in addition to muscular recovery; I have not eaten anything that is not whole grain, or fruit-based sugar, with the exception of the small amounts of sugars in the sweet soy sauce I use in some recipes. All of my fats have been fish oil, coconut oil, small amounts of cheese (less than 5g fat per day from cheese), small amounts of oil that the school's veggies might be prepared with, fats from chicken breast and pork tenderloin, and any fats in protein powder (2 scoops per day). I have been drinking about 1.5 gallons of water per day. I have not consumed any alcohol. I have also lowered my ABE dosing back to 5/day since I am resting. Tonight will be the first skipped workout. I hate the feeling of wanting to go lift/roll but not being able to do it (I do not, however, miss cardio all that much ;) ).

I have had some additional signs that tell me I am doing the right thing by resting. I was really anxious and generally in a terrible mood yesterday. I normally don't have big problems with anxiety (unless I overdo it with stims or don't get enough sleep), and while on AB/ABE, I always feel like a million bucks. However, Wed night and yesterday I felt pretty rough (more so in the evening). Last night I actually took half a xanax to try to get the edge off, but it didn't help much. My sleep quality has also been really poor for the past two nights. I have been tossing and turning, waking up frequently with feelings of anxiety (almost like I wake up to realize I have over-slept my alarm...but at 3AM, 5AM, etc etc) and also having unpleasant dreams. The Dopadex does still seem to help me get to bed, so I could only imagine how bad I would feel without it. Hopefully it calms down by tonight because I will not be taking Dopadex tonight.

It seems like all of these things can happen during times of CNS fatigue. I do feel a bit better today compared to yesterday, but it is too early in the day to really tell. Today is my second rest day in a row (the first time on this log I have had two rest days in a row), so how I sleep tonight and how I feel tomorrow will be critical to monitor.

I have to continue to be diligent with food and water consumption. I find that on rest days (or when I am bored with nothing to do), it is much easier to overeat, eat junk food, not drink enough water, and even forget some supplementation (creatine, BCAA). As long as I keep these thing in my conscious mind, I shouldn't have a problem. Tomorrow night I have to go to dinner with my wife and her friends. Normally, I would try not to eat much of what they were eating, and try not to drink more than a beer or two. Because of my circumstances, I will not be eating or drinking anything at the restaurant. I REALLY need to be back to 100% by Monday, and am doing everything in my power to help that happen. I hope this works, and I really think that it will.

Best,
Tyler
 
Great log and detail. Really appreciate this as I'm running ABE as my PCT in 3 weeks. Thanks for the diligence.
 
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