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Tyler4's First Log **P-Plex+Epi+DC=Mass!**

Also went to the grocery today and got some nice goodies. I go to a place called Health Fare that is geared toward healthy eating. I'm not sure if this is a southern only place or what, but I like it. Got some good grass fed beef, chicken, Ezekial english muffins, almond milk, etc. Good stuff :)
 
I'm not sure pre-loading would be a "dumb" idea. As long as you're still working out those days, it's not going to waste.

Did you watch the Mousasi/Babalu and Carano/Cyborg fights? What'd you think? if you haven't watched it, I'm subbed to some dude on Youtube who has both fights in his personal channels if you need to peep them.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I'm not sure pre-loading would be a "dumb" idea. As long as you're still working out those days, it's not going to waste.

Did you watch the Mousasi/Babalu and Carano/Cyborg fights? What'd you think? if you haven't watched it, I'm subbed to some dude on Youtube who has both fights in his personal channels if you need to peep them.
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i may start dosing tomorrow or Tuesday.

Na, I didn't get to catch them. I did read the recaps on sherdog though. That's sucks Gina got beat and I didn't expect Babula to get ousted in the first round!
 
People have said (in gest or not) that Cyborg needs to be tested for test usage. I think she needs to be tested for testes possession.
 
Wow....Babalu got worn out. Didnt expect that at all. And it looked like the only thing Carano had going for her is that she's smokin hot. Damn, I was wanting her to win too.
 
I'm thinking of dropping the SFL in exchange for Hemo and RPM for use during PCT. I like SFL, but I never really have been a fan of pre w/o drinks. I get bloated to easy :)

Man, just when I though I have plenty of sups, I an now having to drop another $100. :(
 
tyler4 said:
Vegas? When are you headed there? I may be there for SEMA (car show) in November.
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Probably not until next summer. I'll probably rent a house for a couple months with a buddy and catch some of the side action that's made during the WSOP. The games get REAL soft during that time.
 
Well, I have began PCT today. I was getting some pretty rough acne and lethargy, so instead of starting PCT on Wed, I just went ahead today.

I can already tell that I havent dosed PP today. The main time for lethargy was morning all the way until lunch, and today (so far) I feel great. I applied my first dose of Sustain Alpha last night. And I will be runnning the 5 on 2 off protocol. I also dosed 2 PRIME with breakfast. My PCT will be as follows.

SA: 5 on 2 off
Nolva:20/20/10/10 (I may go 40 for the first day or two)
Toco 8: 1 scoop daily
Endoamp Max: 1 scoop daily
T-911: Starting the 3rd week (looking forward to this)

My other supps that will be taken during PCT will be:

PRIME (looking forward to this as well!)
Neovar
ALA
Now Vit B, C
Fish Oil
Multi
Smash Fully Loaded (decided to run this out and then I'll be grabbing some HEMO!)
Xtend
WMS
Lots of Protein
Other misc stuff I'm forgetting

I'll be giving a reviwew of my cycle + training later today. I need to get my log book so I can list the strength increases. They are fairly large, but it is in part due to the fact that I started DC when I started my cycle.

My end of cycle weight was 186 (+11)
 
I'd say at least do 40 for the first few days, 30 until the end of the week, and then 20/20/10.

I'd just rather be safe than sorry...Let me know how you like that SA.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I'd say at least do 40 for the first few days, 30 until the end of the week, and then 20/20/10.

I'd just rather be safe than sorry...Let me know how you like that SA.
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Yea, I may do that.

I'll keep you posted on my SA thoughts. Application was easy but I really dont dig the transdermals. I just dont have the "confidence" that it's getting fully absorbed. But, it seems ok so far.

Your supposed to apply it to your "groin region" so after you put it on, you just have to stand there naked until it dries....kinda weird.
 
teabag a fan bro..that'll dry em up
 
Irish Cannon said:
Carano is beautiful. Is she single? :D
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Actually she is. Check out her weigh in, when have you ever seen a girl at 140lbs look this good? The opening seen is Christina Cyborg, Gina comes after.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O74g_G4Raok"]YouTube - Strikeforce's main event between Gina Carano and Cristiane Santos - weigh in highlights[/ame]
 
tyler4 said:
I may try that...even though that takes weird to a whole new level.

How did you like the DVD's?
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haha yeah its weird but it works.

I watched the DC vid. Didn't learn anything from it :dunno: but it was still fun to watch. Still need to watch the nutrition dvd and I started reading the Seth Roberts book. Thanks again for lending all that stuff to me man. Really cool of you. I'll have it sent back to you soon brutha man.
 
metroba said:
haha yeah its weird but it works.

I watched the DC vid. Didn't learn anything from it :dunno: but it was still fun to watch. Still need to watch the nutrition dvd and I started reading the Seth Roberts book. Thanks again for lending all that stuff to me man. Really cool of you. I'll have it sent back to you soon brutha man.
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Quit thanking me, ha! It's not big deal at all.

Yea, I didnt learn anything from the DVD either. But it was cool to watch and see Wojo push the big boi weight.

If you watch the Palumbo DVD you will learn a lot about his ketogenic diet. You dont really have to follow it to appreciate the knowelege he has.

No hurry at all on returninig it. I dont need it soon for anything.
 
metroba said:
haha yeah its weird but it works.

I watched the DC vid. Didn't learn anything from it :dunno: but it was still fun to watch. Still need to watch the nutrition dvd and I started reading the Seth Roberts book. Thanks again for lending all that stuff to me man. Really cool of you. I'll have it sent back to you soon brutha man.
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Videos don't do me much help either. I used to watch the Mike Mentzer training videos when I was really into HIT, but I didn't learn anything new that I didn't already read and it was a bit disappointing that the way he speaks (in his old age) sounds like he's drunk or a little retarded. Mentzer was a smart guy though, whether or not I ultimately agree with him in the end, he was one of the first people to approach bodybuilding intellectually and scientifically.
 
VolcomX311 said:
and she rolls with other dudes! Could you image? She could probably invent the first submission by woody bar.
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When I was doing BJJ, I rolled with some good looking women. It was quite awkward. I always felt like I had to watch my hands and never felt like I could really fight. I really didn't like it. I always felt like I was being held back from progressing because I couldn't go 100%.

I relied heavily on leg strength. You have no idea how often I got submissions just by wrapping my legs around peoples' bodies and squeezing.
 
Irish Cannon said:
When I was doing BJJ, I rolled with some good looking women. It was quite awkward. I always felt like I had to watch my hands and never felt like I could really fight. I really didn't like it. I always felt like I was being held back from progressing because I couldn't go 100%.

I relied heavily on leg strength. You have no idea how often I got submissions just by wrapping my legs around peoples' bodies and squeezing.
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Haha, you wouldn't surprise me, you do have have some legit quads.

My roommate who does BJJ had the same situation, only it was his Instructor's girlfriend and apparently she was super hot. He would watch for my roommates technical errors while my roommate rolled with the super hot girlfriend (maybe wife?). Either way, my roommate hated it, what can you do if you end up in a North-South position? :paranoid:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Haha, you wouldn't surprise me, you do have have some legit quads.

My roommate who does BJJ had the same situation, only it was his Instructor's girlfriend and apparently she was super hot. He would watch for my roommates technical errors while my roommate rolled with the super hot girlfriend (maybe wife?). Either way, my roommate hated it, what can you do if you end up in a North-South position? :paranoid:
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Ya. It's freakin' awkward. Now if it's YOUR girlfriend it's no big deal. So let's say I'm with Gina, who will be my girlfriend at some point, and I'm rolling with her. No biggie. But when it's just some hot woman and you find yourself North/South, it's not that cool. You'd think it would be, but it's not. You're not at all focused on the fight. Even if the chick makes it known that she just wants to fight and doesn't care what position you end up in, it's still in the back of your mind. I hated it.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ya. It's freakin' awkward. Now if it's YOUR girlfriend it's no big deal. So let's say I'm with Gina, who will be my girlfriend at some point, and I'm rolling with her. No biggie. But when it's just some hot woman and you find yourself North/South, it's not that cool. You'd think it would be, but it's not. You're not at all focused on the fight. Even if the chick makes it known that she just wants to fight and doesn't care what position you end up in, it's still in the back of your mind. I hated it.
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Speaking of which. My roommate is a 7th grade math teacher and at one point he was head over heels over another teacher at the same school (along with every other male faculty and students alike). They were casual friends and she knew he did BJJ. She was planning on a solo drive across the country and thought maybe she should learn some self defense, so she asked my roommate to teach her BJJ.

Considering that The Guard looks like the start of a porno, it was a love/hate experience for him.
 
You know what they say about BJJ, "it's not gay unless you make eye contact."

When first starting out (or I guess anytime really), there are some pretty awkward positions that need to be held for learning experience.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Man I'd go 40/30/20/10 with your Tamoxifen.
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Studies show that there is no reason to go as high as 40...20 is fine enough. You'll just be putting more strain on your liver...not to mention estrogen rebound. You'd have to run the Nolva for more than 4 weeks to balance everything out when going the way you want him to go. Stick with everything the way you have it tyler.
 
MrBigPR said:
Studies show that there is no reason to go as high as 40...20 is fine enough. You'll just be putting more strain on your liver...not to mention estrogen rebound. You'd have to run the Nolva for more than 4 weeks to balance everything out when going the way you want him to go. Stick with everything the way you have it tyler.
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I'd be interested in seeing those studies. Anything that makes me take LESS of something for BETTER effects is cool with me. You have to really watch out for those "studies" though. Were they actually geared towards hormonal post cycle therapy?
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
Don't get me wrong...Gina is hot when she gets down to 155 or below, but according to these pics she might not look so good when not preparing for a fight. I still would though.
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VolcomX311 said:
But she cleans up so well.


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metroba said:
so yummy
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I think she looks great regardless. She pulls off the thick look well as far as I'm concerned. There is no way she's thick-nasty; thick-hot, yes. - Anyways, she will be mine...oh yes, she will be mine...(1:37)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1KuVBQOlxM&feature=related"]YouTube - she will be mine waynes world[/ame]
 
Irish Cannon said:
I'd be interested in seeing those studies. Anything that makes me take LESS of something for BETTER effects is cool with me. You have to really watch out for those "studies" though. Were they actually geared towards hormonal post cycle therapy?
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It had to do with Estrogen rebound and controlling it. Breast Cancer for females. Would be unethical to have it tested in PCT for hormones...no doctor would put his license on the line.

You have Gyno for a reason. Going overboard on doses did you in early in life, don't go around preaching the same for other peeps.
 
MrBigPR said:
It had to do with Estrogen rebound and controlling it. Breast Cancer for females. Would be unethical to have it tested in PCT for hormones...no doctor would put his license on the line.

You have Gyno for a reason. Going overboard on doses did you in early in life, don't go around preaching the same for other peeps.
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I actually had it from puberty, but ya whatever, it's fine. The gyno I have now is from Horny Goat Weed. - I hardly think advising someone to use 40mg of Tamoxifen is the wrong thing to do. - And if you really looked at my post, I was saying it would be a good thing if I could get by with taking less.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I actually had it from puberty, but ya whatever, it's fine. The gyno I have now is from Horny Goat Weed. - I hardly think advising someone to use 40mg of Tamoxifen is the wrong thing to do. - And if you really looked at my post, I was saying it would be a good thing if I could get by with taking less.
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You sure it was Gyno from Puberty? Lots of people just can't get lean enough and blame chest fat for gyno. In your pictures your chest looks good (total homo), but nah man seriously. You barely have any gyno going on...very small. Pics aren't of best quality so excuse me if I'm wrong. If it was pubertal you'd notice it a hell of alot more.

Didn't mean to "diss" you...I read that study in pharmacy school. Alot of drugs "act" the same at higher doses, while others could have more "significant" consequences if not taken the way it was meant to. I could send you copied pages off of a medical journal, but I only have those at work.

It's hard to really plan out what you are going to do if you don't know when the peak plasma levels hit the blood, the half life...blah blah boring stuff. You also have to take in account the half life for the metabolite. Not many people know that.

You want to do higher doses when going on a longer therapy cycle, eg. for breast cancer, because of the stability of the drug in the body. The way some people dose it in the "more is better" outlook are only setting themselves up for failure.
 
It would be great to find out I didn't need a higher dose of Tamoxifen. At times, less is more, but in most personal experiences I've had, I've needed a higher dose of most of these products, and that's just a personal thing. But, I've always seen 40mg recommended in the first week of PCT for a stronger cycle, so that's what I've always went with. It would be nice to know I only have to run 20mg.

Yes, I definitely had pubertal gyno. It started when I was about 12yo. I had it on both sides, but more on the right side. When I ran cycles at 18-19, it was aggravated, but when I used Tamoxifen it went back to normal and never really increased in size. At 21, I used Epi, and it ridded me of the gyno...It returned a year later after taking MMV2, and then I ridded it again with Epi/Form...This time it came back after two weeks of Horny Goat Weed, although this time it returned in the same spot as my original gyno (bottom of nipple), while the MMV2 gyno was more towards the top. I've noticed that when it's on the top it's easier to get rid of (OTC AI's and such).
 
Irish Cannon said:
It would be great to find out I didn't need a higher dose of Tamoxifen. At times, less is more, but in most personal experiences I've had, I've needed a higher dose of most of these products, and that's just a personal thing. But, I've always seen 40mg recommended in the first week of PCT for a stronger cycle, so that's what I've always went with. It would be nice to know I only have to run 20mg.

Yes, I definitely had pubertal gyno. It started when I was about 12yo. I had it on both sides, but more on the right side. When I ran cycles at 18-19, it was aggravated, but when I used Tamoxifen it went back to normal and never really increased in size. At 21, I used Epi, and it ridded me of the gyno...It returned a year later after taking MMV2, and then I ridded it again with Epi/Form...This time it came back after two weeks of Horny Goat Weed, although this time it returned in the same spot as my original gyno (bottom of nipple), while the MMV2 gyno was more towards the top. I've noticed that when it's on the top it's easier to get rid of (OTC AI's and such).
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I can put my pharmacy license on it that 40mg doses are as effective as 20mg doses. Alot of the generic tamox is graded higher now too.

When you took Letro did you start low increasing everyday until you hit 2.5 then down for the next week and back up? That could have been your problem. Alot of people think they can run a straight dose and rid it but instead make it worse. I've seen many people run 2.5 ED and the Gyno actually get bigger.

We you a fatty when you were young?
 
MrBigPR said:
I can put my pharmacy license on it that 40mg doses are as effective as 20mg doses. Alot of the generic tamox is graded higher now too.

When you took Letro did you start low increasing everyday until you hit 2.5 then down for the next week and back up? That could have been your problem. Alot of people think they can run a straight dose and rid it but instead make it worse. I've seen many people run 2.5 ED and the Gyno actually get bigger.

We you a fatty when you were young?
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No I didn't do it that way. I could try it like that before running another Epi cycle.

No, I wasn't a fatty.
 
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