tribulus+novedex xt???

therocker187

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would these two be ok? I figured since novedex xt can slightly lower libido, then maybe the tribulus can help with that. or would that be too much excess testosterone?
 
but the main thing for the tribulus is it would help with the lowered libido tho right? if it does nothing for my test levels thats ok.
 
I smell a scam. Some one puts out a study saying that trib doesn't affect hormones, but it still gives people boners. Shouldnp't the simple act of being horney have SOME impact on hormones?
 
I think it sounds like a reasonable stack. Keep your Novedex dosage at 1 cap/day and run your trib at like 3-4g/day. It should be a fun stack IMO, but don't expect anything explosive from it at all.
 
kingdong said:
I smell a scam. Some one puts out a study saying that trib doesn't affect hormones, but it still gives people boners. Shouldnp't the simple act of being horney have SOME impact on hormones?
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If that is the case my wifes butt gives me wood, Does that mean it boost my natural Test levels?
 
Big BAMA said:
If that is the case my wifes butt gives me wood, Does that mean it boost my natural Test levels?
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It's not gonna make you a Superman, but people generally do have a little more test when there horny.

Lets not forget the fact that if you really ask most people, they'll say that their natty test boosters don't even help as much as creatine.
 
kingdong said:
It's not gonna make you a Superman, but people generally do have a little more test when there horny.

Lets not forget the fact that if you really ask most people, they'll say that their natty test boosters don't even help as much as creatine.
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Man, I didn't mean to kill this thread. Does antone else have any thoughts to contribute, or did I hit the nail on the head with my natty test booster comment?
 
I take DTHC and think it makes me FEEL better..................Do I think that I have gained any muscle because of it.............NOPE. I keep buying it though because I like the way I feel on it so I guess that could help me gain because I feel better in the gym............Who the hell knows, I sure don't. There is no slam dunk in world of supplements....unless you consider PH/DS supplements lol.

If you are looking for something that will DIRECTLY lead to gaining muscle.......use creatine.
 
kingdong said:
Man, I didn't mean to kill this thread. Does antone else have any thoughts to contribute, or did I hit the nail on the head with my natty test booster comment?
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I think you are starting to think in the right direction. Natty test boosters never helped me put on lean mass. They are a lot of fun for libido. And I think this stack MIGHT add a little edge of aggression/strength in the gym for you. In which case, I've always thought natty stacks were fun during a cut. They can help keep strength and libido up, keep motivation, and prolong the period I can go on caloric deficit.

Natty stacks have a place in supplementation... IF expectations are reasonable.
 
celc5 said:
I think you are starting to think in the right direction. Natty test boosters never helped me put on lean mass. They are a lot of fun for libido. And I think this stack MIGHT add a little edge of aggression/strength in the gym for you. In which case, I've always thought natty stacks were fun during a cut. They can help keep strength and libido up, keep motivation, and prolong the period I can go on caloric deficit.

Natty stacks have a place in supplementation... IF expectations are reasonable.
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You just nailed it....I could not agree more.
 
Big BAMA said:
If that is the case my wifes butt gives me wood, Does that mean it boost my natural Test levels?
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I see your point and agree.

At the same time, I remember seeing a study that measured test levels in men that were single vs. men that married in the same age group. The married men had significantly lower test. The researchers hypothesized that the married men may have had lower test because of less sexual interest and because of frequent compromise associated with submissive behaviors (aka suppressing dominance).

I wish I had a link, but I can't remember much more about the study to even search appropriately LOL :laugh:
 
kingdong said:
I smell a scam. Some one puts out a study saying that trib doesn't affect hormones, but it still gives people boners. Shouldnp't the simple act of being horney have SOME impact on hormones?
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It can stimulate androgen receptors in the brain which will enhance sexual behavior................... In animals.

On another note:

The effects of Tribulus terrestris on body composition and exercise performance in resistance-trained males.
Antonio J, Uelmen J, Rodriguez R, Earnest C.

Human Performance Laboratory, University of Nebraska, Kearney, NE 68849-3101, USA.
Abstract

The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of the herbal preparation Tribulus terrestris (tribulus) on body composition and exercise performance in resistance-trained males. Fifteen subjects were randomly assigned to a placebo or tribulus (3.21 mg per kg body weight daily) group. Body weight, body composition, maximal strength, dietary intake, and mood states were determined before and after an 8-week exercise (periodized resistance training) and supplementation period. There were no changes in body weight, percentage fat, total body water, dietary intake, or mood states in either group. Muscle endurance (determined by the maximal number of repetitions at 100-200% of body weight) increased for the bench and leg press exercises in the placebo group (p <.05; bench press +/-28.4%, leg press +/-28.6%), while the tribulus group experienced an increase in leg press strength only (bench press +/-3.1%, not significant; leg press +/-28.6%, p <.05). Supplementation with tribulus does not enhance body composition or exercise performance in resistance-trained males.
 
Don't throw tribulus out the window... it has libido supporting properties

Aphrodisiac properties of Tribulus Terrestris extract (Protodioscin) in normal and castrated rats

K. Gauthaman, P. G. Adaikan, and R. N. V. Prasad
Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, National University Hospital, National University of Singapore, Singapore 119074, Singapore
Received 15 November 2001; accepted 1 May 2002. Available online 14 June 2002.
Abstract

Tribulus terrestris (TT) has long been used in the traditional Chinese and Indian systems of medicine for the treatment of various ailments and is popularly claimed to improve sexual functions in man. Sexual behaviour and intracavernous pressure (ICP) were studied in both normal and castrated rats to further understand the role of TT containing protodioscin (PTN) as an aphrodisiac. Adult Sprague-Dawley rats were divided into five groups of 8 each that included distilled water treated (normal and castrated), testosterone treated (normal and castrated, 10 mg/kg body weight, subcutaneously, bi-weekly) and TT treated (castrated, 5 mg/kg body weight, orally once daily). Decreases in body weight, prostate weight and ICP were observed among the castrated groups of rats compared to the intact group. There was an overall reduction in the sexual behaviour parameters in the castrated groups of rats as reflected by decrease in mount and intromission frequencies (MF and IF) and increase in mount, intromission, ejaculation latencies (ML, IL, EL) as well as post-ejaculatory interval (PEI). Compared to the castrated control, treatment of castrated rats (with either testosterone or TT extract) showed increase in prostate weight and ICP that were statistically significant. There was also a mild to moderate improvement of the sexual behaviour parameters as evidenced by increase in MF and IF; decrease in ML, IL and PEI. These results were statistically significant. It is concluded that TT extract appears to possess aphrodisiac activity probably due to androgen increasing property of TT (observed in our earlier study on primates)


**** statistically significant conclusion!
 
It didn't have testosterone raising abilities according to the study.

HOWEVER, it had a libido enhancing ability through a different biological pathway than using hormones to enhance libido. It did so by stimulating androgen receptors in the brain.
 
chocolatemilk said:
It didn't have testosterone raising abilities according to the study.

HOWEVER, it had a libido enhancing ability through a different biological pathway than using hormones to enhance libido. It did so by stimulating androgen receptors in the brain.
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thats interesting. I had wondered that for a while now, when ppl say it doesnt raise test but it raises libido.
so then does this mean theres no worries for taking tribulus and having any excess test convert into estrogen. im trying to google the whole androgen receptor in the brain thing, as Im not real sure what that means
 
therocker187 said:
so then does this mean theres no worries for taking tribulus and having any excess test convert into estrogen
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Some of us who are susceptible can have some estorgenic or prolactin-esque symptoms AGGRAVATED by trib. But I'd find it hard to believe that trib would ever CAUSE those symptoms.

It's not gonna be like SD symptoms where you have to have an arsenal of drugs to control the mess. It's more like add a low dose AI and the symptoms are gone in a day or 2.

...All subjective of course
 
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