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Tren and Cardiovascular decline

Boomer3

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Currently running Test prop and tren ace 200mg and 100 mg EOD respectively. However I am a pretty active individual apart from just lifting. Already seeing a decline in cardiovascular performance from the tren. Is there anyway to combat this at all?
 
Not really...

EPO would help but that is tough as f*** to find.

EQ might help but not by much.

Anyways, the loss in cardio performance is way worth being strong as an ox, shedding fat, and making disgusting amounts of LBM gains on Tren A... unless your job requires you to be very active.
 
I never knew that was a side effect of tren, interesting. Obviously I've never used it either though, lol. If your goal is shred up with it though, that would seem somewhat counter intuitive to have as a side effect, no? I mean your probably DOING cardio if you are trying to lean out, or is tren so damn strong you don't even need cardio?
 
Yeah EPO would be nice, but like you said, I dont have any idea where to find it.

I'll look into the prolactin inhibitor thing.

And Makaveli tren will lean you up without cardio, haha, epic.
 
chocolatemilk said:
Not really...

EPO would help but that is tough as f*** to find.

EQ might help but not by much.

Anyways, the loss in cardio performance is way worth being strong as an ox, shedding fat, and making disgusting amounts of LBM gains on Tren A... unless your job requires you to be very active.
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suppose you found some research chem EPO, probably fake or possibly real? completely hypothetical question..
 
Boomer3 said:
Currently running Test prop and tren ace 200mg and 100 mg EOD respectively. However I am a pretty active individual apart from just lifting. Already seeing a decline in cardiovascular performance from the tren. Is there anyway to combat this at all?
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So you're taking 800mg of test/week and 400 Tren Ace? Sounds like a lot of Test to me. I'm running 550mg/week Tren Enth right now and don't have any problem with cardio performance, but I'm also only doing 500 Test Enth/week
 
animalized said:
So you're taking 800mg of test/week and 400 Tren Ace? Sounds like a lot of Test to me. I'm running 550mg/week Tren Enth right now and don't have any problem with cardio performance, but I'm also only doing 500 Test Enth/week
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Ya brotha, runnin mine 800 and 400. How long you been on cycle hows your results so far.
 
I hear if you lower the dose on test and higher the dose on tren say 400mg a week of tren and 350mg a week of the test prop that it counteracts the sides somewhat, Is this true ?
 
ward5742 said:
I hear if you lower the dose on test and higher the dose on tren say 400mg a week of tren and 350mg a week of the test prop that it counteracts the sides somewhat, Is this true ?
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My understanding of this is that which ever the higher dose will have the more noticeable side effects. No way to nullify the other. Not 100% on that, maybe some one else will be able to clarify that.
 
Boomer3 said:
Ya brotha, runnin mine 800 and 400. How long you been on cycle hows your results so far.
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Been 10 weeks now and I love this Tren stuff. Really notice the difference.
I've also read the same as others are saying, that you should run the Tren at a higher dose then the Test. Can see me doing another cycle of this down the road and may try it that way next time.
 
animalized said:
Been 10 weeks now and I love this Tren stuff. Really notice the difference.
I've also read the same as others are saying, that you should run the Tren at a higher dose then the Test. Can see me doing another cycle of this down the road and may try it that way next time.
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Interesting to note, I just read a thread on another board earlier today at work that a bunch of dudes agreed on a 2:1 test:tren ratio, ie. 400mg/test and 200mg/tren.
 
Agreed, I have always read that it should be run at roughly that 2:1 ratio. 1.5:1 somewhere in between there. Have seen others say that the tren should be run higher if those are the desired results. (Dried up, real lean gains) I'm just going for a decent LBM gain with this cycle. Things are good right now, legs and glutes are crazy sore from all these pins however. Im gunna trying heating the oils tomorrow and see if that helps at all. Open to suggestions to!
 
Boomer3 said:
Agreed, I have always read that it should be run at roughly that 2:1 ratio. 1.5:1 somewhere in between there. Have seen others say that the tren should be run higher if those are the desired results. (Dried up, real lean gains) I'm just going for a decent LBM gain with this cycle. Things are good right now, legs and glutes are crazy sore from all these pins however. Im gunna trying heating the oils tomorrow and see if that helps at all. Open to suggestions to!
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cut with cottonseed oil.
 
Boomer3 said:
Currently running Test prop and tren ace 200mg and 100 mg EOD respectively. However I am a pretty active individual apart from just lifting. Already seeing a decline in cardiovascular performance from the tren. Is there anyway to combat this at all?
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not meaning to sound like an ass, but yes, stop the tren..... tren can cause this in soem people/ most people.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
Interesting to note, I just read a thread on another board earlier today at work that a bunch of dudes agreed on a 2:1 test:tren ratio, ie. 400mg/test and 200mg/tren.
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in running 200-300mg test and 300-400mg tren.
its NOT needed to be higher but is a good idea for most.
 
Ha, well I don't think I will be stopping tren. I knew it was a potential side effect when I rolled the dice with it. Just through additional cardio I've noticed the effects aren't as drastic as they were initially. And.
 
ssbackwards said:
for me,

thats a floppy noodle recipe
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yah i dont know whats worng with me even when i ran a deca only cycle (not reccomended though, but was threw my doc after car accedent) I was STILL hard most the day. maybe im just a perv i unno lol
 
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