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Trauma1 and Poopypants team up for a PP/1-T and Epi/1-T log!

poopypants said:
ya change of plans.... I will be double dosing as well :D

Once in the morn and once an hour preworkout (usually 6-9pm).....

in fact Ill just start right now:twisted:

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So heres the stack for now.... STILL waiting on the danged Xtend... Makes me mad.


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Will give initial feelings and review in a lil bit as Im bout to dose and go to workout soon.
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Good deal, so you did get 2!

Only one more day until my lovely package arrives! :drunk:
 
Nice package.

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Quick Update Day 9






Weight: 227.4lbs (+7.4lbs)


Libido: Above baseline at this point. Not overly robust, but noticeable.


Side Effects: I have a few pimples developing on my upper chest and face. I had a headache today as well, but i attribute that to caffeine withdrawl. I also had a brief nosebleed upon awakening today, but that is more than likely due to the sudden cold spell down here drying out my nasal mucousa.


Aggression: It seems to flare all over the place at times. One minute i'm fine, the next i want to tear someone's head off. You know, the usual. :D


Strength: Today was an off day from the gym. I have noticed that slowly my strength is increasing. Nothing dramatic yet, but i think it's on its way.


Muscle Pumps: I noticed towards the end of my back workout yesterday that the muscle pumps are starting to kick in. The amazing thing was as quickly as i felt them, they faded away. I really think the combo of the taurine and poseidon is working quite well!







Vital Signs And Diagnostic Tests




Blood Pressure: 136/64


Pulse: 68 (Resting)


Fasting Blood Glucose: 88






Narrative


I was off today, and will be tomorrow as well. Due to time constraints, i had to shorten my update today.

Overall, i'm feeling fantastic. I've alread had quite a few people at work ask me what the hell i'm taking. It's been apparent i've put on a good amount of size in a short time here. Me likey! :)

I do attribute much of this to glycogen storage, and subsequent water retention as a result. The pumps have been very nice throughout the day. My appetite has been fairly solid. I continue to eat at approximately 500 kcal over my recommended daily intake.

I currently continue at Phera-Plex at 40mg/day at this point. On my of days i've been continuing to take the Methoxy TST as well at 6-8mg/day. I should receive my 1-T on saturday. My plan is to double dose it with the phera to see what i can achieve. I'll keep you all updated to that protocol once i receive it.

I'll have more time to catch up with updates tomorrow night.​
 
7.4lbs in 9 days, wow.
 
Kernkraft said:
x2... did you tell them you went to a cow roast or something and ate the whole damn cow? :rofl:
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"Milk....it does a body good!"

I'm sure things will normalize for a bit now, but i'm impressed with the results so far. I've really been trying to make everything i can from this cycle.

I'm sure at least 2/3 of that is glycogen/water retention, but still impressive none-the-less. :)
 
I gotcha, you just wait til I start taking those types of compounds. :lol:
 
Initial 1-T feelings and review:

So the 1-T has made its arrival and in style!!!! Im gonna break it down into some topics...

Bottle/Packaging and Pump system: 10/10

First thing I noticed and made me just say WOW was the bottles, much bigger then the graphics look on the site, for some reason those pics make it seem small as there is nothing to put it to scale... but these bottles are damn pretty large!

Also the style and innovative pump system on this is something else!!! I didnt notice at first BUT you can see in my pics what Im about to describe as I had pumped it before those pics to see how it did until one squirt came out.... BUT when I did my first 4 squirts and application tonight I REALLY noticed how these new bottles work and how they absolutely SCHOOL any other bottle/pump system Ive EVER seen!!!!!

The bottle must be AIR TIGHT or something, dunno how it does it BUT you can see the bottom of one bottle, the one with white at the tip is HIGHER then the other! Its just like a stick of deodorant or chapstick and as the pump squirts out the liquid it raises the bottom up flawlessly squeezing every bit of the dermal lotion upwards not allow any air to build up inside and making sure that theres no precious residue left behind that Ive seen with past dermal products that could easily be one or two extra applications!!! THIS is just SICK!!! VERY innovative, VERY stylish and VERY smart. Im impressed to say the least.

Actual Dermal Solution/Lotion:10/10

This solution is more like a normal lotion. Very creamy, no strong odor like with Napalm or Penetrate. Not all oily like Penetrate leaving the skin super slick and shiny. Not prone to gel up and leave lil balls everywhere like Napalm and Lipoderm. It just rubbed right in very easily once evenly dispersed across torso, pecs, shoulders and traps leaving no trace, no lingering smell, almost as if it wasnt there... almost... leading me to the last initial response....


Initial Effects and Physical Reaction:9/10

This did EXACTLY what I hoped it would do.... within a minute of application the skin seems to tighten, the veins bulge and show a lil bit and my muscles get a nice lil semi pump... something I had experienced with the first group of 1-AD and 4-AD TD, as well as E-form and Bulk Trione in Penetrate. I LOVE this about transdermals, very cool lil effect. The ONLY reason this one gets a 9 though is cause with E-Form and Trione I also get a sensation of energy and rush of androgens, slightly raised heart rate AND mild euphoria that actually gets stronger as dosing progresses.... Dont know if thats just the nature of the compound though and if I will ever get similar effects with this combo BUT the reason why this one gets a 9, but is still pretty damn good on a scale of 10.


Now to my normal workout update and on to the growin!!!!
 
Log Update, Day 18, Chest

Ok tonights chest workout was GREAT. Not huge on number increases... in fact I think I went down in some lifts since I didnt have my notebook with me I didnt remember exactly what I lifted last week so I just went with what felt good.... thats all that really matters anyway and I had a good "feel" workout and still comparable to previous lifts.... only thing that got me down about tonight was the weigh in.... still 200.5lbs. ALTHOUGH Im looking leaner by the day so I feel that there is a major trade off/recomp going on here and I just need to bump the cals some more to accommodate my new weight.

Heres the...


Lifts:
This week
Last week


Flat DB press- 60x10, 70x10, 80x10
___________ 60x10, 75x10, 90x6
Incline DB Press- 50x10, 60x10, 70x10
______________ 45x10, 55x10, 65x8
Incline smith press(reg bench not smith this week)- 135x10, 185x9.5, 155x12
_________________________________________ 135x10, 185x10, 185x10
Cable fly(l/r)- 55/55x10, 75/75x10, 50/50x15, 50/50x15
____________55/55x10, 65/65x10, 60/60x12
Cable press- 75/75x10, 95/95x10, 50/50x15
___________50/50x10, 65/65x10, 85/85x12, 70/70x15
Dips- BWx12, BW+25lbs x10
_____BWx10, BWx12(wide), x10(last week only)
Rev Grip DB press- 30/30x15 (had to go home as son started gettin fussy with daycare)
________________35/35x10, 40/40x10, 50/50x9


Pretty sick lifts... had a good workout even though its not much different from last week all reps were very concentrated and still felt stronger then last week doing them. As you can see switched smith for reg bench on incline but got a 9.5 @ 185.... in other words got to the 10th rep and had to use the safety rest as I couldnt get it up all the way, one prob about not havin a partner/spotter. Also couldnt work up to weight with reverse grip DB's as I had brought my son with me to give the (ex)wife an hour alone and he started to get fussy right after the first set, He was mighty pissed looking when I finally got to the door, like why didnt you get here faster, LOL, he was ready to go.

So cant wait to see what the addition of 1-T will bring once it gets into the swing of things and as stated will be upping the cals, most likely fats first and pro as well, to meet the new demand my new muscle is requiring and enough above new maintenance level to keep gains comin on nicely but cleanly.
 
poopypants said:
So the 1-T has made its arrival and in style!!!! Im gonna break it down into some topics...

Bottle/Packaging and Pump system: 10/10

First thing I noticed and made me just say WOW was the bottles, much bigger then the graphics look on the site, for some reason those pics make it seem small as there is nothing to put it to scale... but these bottles are damn pretty large!

Also the style and innovative pump system on this is something else!!! I didnt notice at first BUT you can see in my pics what Im about to describe as I had pumped it before those pics to see how it did until one squirt came out.... BUT when I did my first 4 squirts and application tonight I REALLY noticed how these new bottles work and how they absolutely SCHOOL any other bottle/pump system Ive EVER seen!!!!!

The bottle must be AIR TIGHT or something, dunno how it does it BUT you can see the bottom of one bottle, the one with white at the tip is HIGHER then the other! Its just like a stick of deodorant or chapstick and as the pump squirts out the liquid it raises the bottom up flawlessly squeezing every bit of the dermal lotion upwards not allow any air to build up inside and making sure that theres no precious residue left behind that Ive seen with past dermal products that could easily be one or two extra applications!!! THIS is just SICK!!! VERY innovative, VERY stylish and VERY smart. Im impressed to say the least.

Ok tonights chest workout was GREAT. Not huge on number increases... in fact I think I went down since I didnt have my notebook with me I didnt remember exactly what I lifted last week so I just went with what felt good.... thats all that really matters anyway.


Actual Dermal Solution/Lotion:10/10

This solution is more like a normal lotion. Very creamy, no strong odor like with Napalm or Penetrate. Not all oily like Penetrate leaving the skin super slick and shiny. Not prone to gel up and leave lil balls everywhere like Napalm and Lipoderm. It just rubbed right in very easily once evenly dispersed across torso, pecs, shoulders and traps leaving no trace, no lingering smell, almost as if it wasnt there... almost... leading me to the last initial response....


Initial Effects and Physical Reaction:9/10

This did EXACTLY what I hoped it would do.... within a minute of application the skin seems to tighten, the veins bulge and show a lil bit and my muscles get a nice lil semi pump... something I had experienced with the first group of 1-AD and 4-AD TD, as well as E-form and Bulk Trione in Penetrate. I LOVE this about transdermals, very cool lil effect. The ONLY reason this one gets a 9 though is cause with E-Form and Trione I also get a sensation of energy and rush of androgens, slightly raised heart rate AND mild euphoria that actually gets stronger as dosing progresses.... Dont know if thats just the nature of the compound though and if I will ever get similar effects with this combo BUT the reason why this one gets a 9, but is still pretty damn good on a scale of 10.


Now to my normal workout update and on to the growin!!!!
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nice job poop very informative!
 
Trauma1 said:
...I'm sure at least 2/3 of that is glycogen/water retention, but still impressive none-the-less. :)
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Sinner had some interesting info in regards to the "water weight"....Invalid Link Removed
I've always thought the "water" was from estrogen, but Sinner is saying it's more of an aldosterone effect.
 
Kernkraft said:
x2 poops - nice lifts too - the review was very informative!!


BTW on a side note (either you're going to laugh or be like wtf?!) I had the weirdest dream last night. I mixed my 1-T with some fish accidentally like it was tartar sauce and then realized what I was doing and applied it to my upper body and felt my skin tighten like poops mentioned...

I have no idea - really really weird.
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Damn... how did you scoop up XDream before me? :D

Adams
 
Kernkraft said:
x2 poops - nice lifts too - the review was very informative!!


BTW on a side note (either you're going to laugh or be like wtf?!) I had the weirdest dream last night. I mixed my 1-T with some fish accidentally like it was tartar sauce and then realized what I was doing and applied it to my upper body and felt my skin tighten like poops mentioned...

I have no idea - really really weird.
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LOL that is weird!

funny stuff though. Glad this stuff aint fishy tarter sauce smellin, that would suck.
 
poopypants said:
This solution is more like a normal lotion. Very creamy, no strong odor like with Napalm or Penetrate. Not all oily like Penetrate leaving the skin super slick and shiny. Not prone to gel up and leave lil balls everywhere like Napalm and Lipoderm. It just rubbed right in very easily once evenly dispersed across torso, pecs, shoulders and traps leaving no trace, no lingering smell, almost as if it wasnt there...
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I did a little write up myself in the "Transdermal" section in regards to the Formestane in "Topical Solution" by PP.
Their stuff is FAR better than Penetrate...sorry NP :o
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I pretty much said everything you mentioned in regards to the quick absorption and less "greasiness" like Penetrate.
It costs a bit more but WELL worth it. :thumbsup:
 
poopypants said:
So the 1-T has made its arrival and in style!!!! Im gonna break it down into some topics...

Bottle/Packaging and Pump system: 10/10

First thing I noticed and made me just say WOW was the bottles, much bigger then the graphics look on the site, for some reason those pics make it seem small as there is nothing to put it to scale... but these bottles are damn pretty large!

Also the style and innovative pump system on this is something else!!! I didnt notice at first BUT you can see in my pics what Im about to describe as I had pumped it before those pics to see how it did until one squirt came out.... BUT when I did my first 4 squirts and application tonight I REALLY noticed how these new bottles work and how they absolutely SCHOOL any other bottle/pump system Ive EVER seen!!!!!

The bottle must be AIR TIGHT or something, dunno how it does it BUT you can see the bottom of one bottle, the one with white at the tip is HIGHER then the other! Its just like a stick of deodorant or chapstick and as the pump squirts out the liquid it raises the bottom up flawlessly squeezing every bit of the dermal lotion upwards not allow any air to build up inside and making sure that theres no precious residue left behind that Ive seen with past dermal products that could easily be one or two extra applications!!! THIS is just SICK!!! VERY innovative, VERY stylish and VERY smart. Im impressed to say the least.

Ok tonights chest workout was GREAT. Not huge on number increases... in fact I think I went down since I didnt have my notebook with me I didnt remember exactly what I lifted last week so I just went with what felt good.... thats all that really matters anyway.


Actual Dermal Solution/Lotion:10/10

This solution is more like a normal lotion. Very creamy, no strong odor like with Napalm or Penetrate. Not all oily like Penetrate leaving the skin super slick and shiny. Not prone to gel up and leave lil balls everywhere like Napalm and Lipoderm. It just rubbed right in very easily once evenly dispersed across torso, pecs, shoulders and traps leaving no trace, no lingering smell, almost as if it wasnt there... almost... leading me to the last initial response....


Initial Effects and Physical Reaction:9/10

This did EXACTLY what I hoped it would do.... within a minute of application the skin seems to tighten, the veins bulge and show a lil bit and my muscles get a nice lil semi pump... something I had experienced with the first group of 1-AD and 4-AD TD, as well as E-form and Bulk Trione in Penetrate. I LOVE this about transdermals, very cool lil effect. The ONLY reason this one gets a 9 though is cause with E-Form and Trione I also get a sensation of energy and rush of androgens, slightly raised heart rate AND mild euphoria that actually gets stronger as dosing progresses.... Dont know if thats just the nature of the compound though and if I will ever get similar effects with this combo BUT the reason why this one gets a 9, but is still pretty damn good on a scale of 10.


Now to my normal workout update and on to the growin!!!!
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Great thoughts, im licking my lips now in anticipation of my next parcel, cant wait to see how it effects you, hope we can all prove bill roberts wrong....

Great progress both of you, if your leaning out and getting bigger, then everything is spot on, well done!!!
 
poopypants said:
Ok tonights chest workout was GREAT. Not huge on number increases... in fact I think I went down in some lifts since I didnt have my notebook with me I didnt remember exactly what I lifted last week so I just went with what felt good.... thats all that really matters anyway and I had a good "feel" workout and still comparable to previous lifts.... only thing that got me down about tonight was the weigh in.... still 200.5lbs. ALTHOUGH Im looking leaner by the day so I feel that there is a major trade off/recomp going on here and I just need to bump the cals some more to accommodate my new weight.

Heres the...


Lifts:
This week
Last week


Flat DB press- 60x10, 70x10, 80x10
___________ 60x10, 75x10, 90x6
Incline DB Press- 50x10, 60x10, 70x10
______________ 45x10, 55x10, 65x8
Incline smith press(reg bench not smith this week)- 135x10, 185x9.5, 155x12
_________________________________________ 135x10, 185x10, 185x10
Cable fly(l/r)- 55/55x10, 75/75x10, 50/50x15, 50/50x15
____________55/55x10, 65/65x10, 60/60x12
Cable press- 75/75x10, 95/95x10, 50/50x15
___________50/50x10, 65/65x10, 85/85x12, 70/70x15
Dips- BWx12, BW+25lbs x10
_____BWx10, BWx12(wide), x10(last week only)
Rev Grip DB press- 30/30x15 (had to go home as son started gettin fussy with daycare)
________________35/35x10, 40/40x10, 50/50x9


Pretty sick lifts... had a good workout even though its not much different from last week all reps were very concentrated and still felt stronger then last week doing them. As you can see switched smith for reg bench on incline but got a 9.5 @ 185.... in other words got to the 10th rep and had to use the safety rest as I couldnt get it up all the way, one prob about not havin a partner/spotter. Also couldnt work up to weight with reverse grip DB's as I had brought my son with me to give the (ex)wife an hour alone and he started to get fussy right after the first set, He was mighty pissed looking when I finally got to the door, like why didnt you get here faster, LOL, he was ready to go.

So cant wait to see what the addition of 1-T will bring once it gets into the swing of things and as stated will be upping the cals, most likely fats first and pro as well, to meet the new demand my new muscle is requiring and enough above new maintenance level to keep gains comin on nicely but cleanly.
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Hey poop, I always wanted to try a transdermal, but I have a small child that has prevented me from doing so. I'm sorta scared that some of the substance could inadvertantly get on her, which would be bad, potentially very bad. I see that you are in the same position, so how do you avoid this hazard? What is your strategy?
 
poops, looks like things are going well so far...lifts look great and it sounds like you're happy with your cycle so far!

keep up the great work bud!
 
russianstar said:
Great thoughts, im licking my lips now in anticipation of my next parcel, cant wait to see how it effects you, hope we can all prove bill roberts wrong....

Great progress both of you, if your leaning out and getting bigger, then everything is spot on, well done!!!
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btw I saw your post on that and made this response in your thread BUT wanted to make sure others only following here can see it as well...

here it goes.



you posted and I replied the following

russianstar said:
This morning i ordered 1-t by primordial performance, and thenh i read this quote from bill roberts... now i dont know what to think..sometimes real life experience makes even experts look foolish. Im glad poopey and trauma are running a log on this stuff.

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I suppose it depends on what one means by "readily."

Not one but two enzymatic conversions are required. If only 1 occurs, you're not going to get 1-testosterone from this compound.

Both conversions are reversible so it's not the case that there's a tendency for everything to go in the desired direction. While the equilibrium won't be exactly at the halfway point for each one, nor will the reactions go all the way to equilibrium, let's assume for simplicity that the 50/50 point is reached for each conversion.

In this case, only 1/4 of what compound goes through the skin will wind up converted to the claimed compound to which it "readily converts."

By the way, 4-androsterone was tried by others as an oral supplement on the theory that it would undergo the same 2 conversions and be a useful precursor to testosterone.

It was not only in practice so useless that it was a complete failure in practice, but it was so useless that though known to exist, the government didn't bother to schedule it while scheduling all other prohormones.

It is also a known fact that DHEA has the same substituents at the 3 and 17 positions at this compound, and transdermal delivery does not result in much metabolism at those positions for DHEA. So I would not assume it for this compound either.




ME: Somone said as it readily converts you should get good gains, and that was his reply, anyway i will be adding it to stage 3.
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Funny thing is sellers AND competitors will always shine a light on a subject/compound that best suits their motives.

Thus it IS good a few others and I are running this first to show how effective it is, or isnt...

BUT let me add a few 3rd party observations and facts regarding these compounds as well.



First off look at the overwhelming positive feedback regarding Dermacrine, which is basically one half of this supplement AND shares the exact same enzymes for conversion, so essentially it seems that for most everyone thats used it the conversions are more favorable then Bill Roberts makes it out to look.

Second, a more scientific take, look at the FIRST conversion compounds that this converts to, 1-AD and 4-AD, both diol and dione, one being slightly more able to convert to the target then the other(diol stronger then dione). As he mentioned they have the ability to convert back and forth this is only regarding the SECOND conversion (he doesnt even specify this). Look at this chart.


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you can see the arrows show that they convert to the 1-AD (diol and dione) and THEN convert back and forth (VERY SLOWLY BTW) between the target hormone 1-test and the 1-AD variants. BR makes this sound oh so bad BUT this is where he decides to omit some information.....

IT DOESNT MATTER! 1-AD is active ALL ON ITS OWN. So is 4-AD, almost as STRONG as TEST!!!!!

check this here....

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Big Daddy Chemo said:
First, your homebrew concentration with the stated amounts will result in 125 mg/mL! You will DEFINITELY have solubility problems...as you approach 75 mg/mL the tendency to precipitate is increased.

The effective dose for 4-AD has an extremely wide range for a couple of reasons. Some will only want 4-AD supplementation for maintenance of libido and a lower amount will suffice (even lower than the 175). Others will desire true mass building potential from 4-AD and will opt for the higher doseage (above 175).

Now comes the "iffy" part. There is speculation that 4-AD is active in it's UNCONVERTED FORM. The estimates range from 40% to 80% as compared to testosterone. Keep this in mind...the "GETTING" cell is the 15% that gets converted. If the unconverted form is indeed active this number may be doubled or even quadrupled! For instance:


With 5 g 1-test, 10 g 4-AD, in 240 mL, 4 mL applied twice daily --> The value of the "GETTING" cell of 4-AD is 70. If the lower estimate of 40% activity is closer to true this 70 effectively becomes 186. If 80% is closer to true then the 70 becomes 374! The level of uncertainty is wide and this is reflected in the effective dose range. IMO, <40% is more realistic...this is from 1st hand experience with both.

If this is your first cycle with PH's, 5-g 1-test with 10 g 4-AD in 240 mL applying 4 mL twice per day should give good gains.

Chemo
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This is an OLD post, there have been reports Ive read since then (although I cant find the link right now) stating its even HIGHER then the bolded section there, Ive seen quoted that its 98% as strong as test without ever converting to test.

Taking this into mind, BR saying with limited conversion to its target hormone it will make it very ineffective cause of TWO conversions is just not factual. The compound only has to make ONE conversion from 1-DHEA and DHEA to 1-AD and 4-AD respectively to even make a super active steroidal combo, and the back and forth conversions to Test and 1-Test arent so detrimental at all when this is taken into account and when you realize they are only slightly stronger in the end anyhow!



As a side note make sure to supplement with PLENTY of Zinc (and magnesium) while taking these compounds as they are crucial for helping create the enzymatic conversions between these compounds and would make them all the more effective. A dose of at least 30mg daily is rec.
 
LilPsychotic said:
Hey poop, I always wanted to try a transdermal, but I have a small child that has prevented me from doing so. I'm sorta scared that some of the substance could inadvertantly get on her, which would be bad, potentially very bad. I see that you are in the same position, so how do you avoid this hazard? What is your strategy?
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First I let his mom know when I got to put it on so she can watch him and not try to jump on me or reach up on the counter (yes even at 16 months he can reach the counter and open doors cause hes a frickin giant) and get some on him... thats the toughest part really.

What I do is make sure I ONLY apply to areas of my body I can cover, chest torso, shoulders, sides, upper back/traps and if some is left over my legs serve as the wipe down spot to get as much off my hands as possible. I even BARELY wet my hands first and then rub as much as I can on my legs too so that its not wasted. Then I thoroughly wash my hands and nails with hot water and wait for the stuff to dry.

This stuff is MUCH better then others, it dries quickly and isnt all greasy after the fact so I can get a shirt on fairly quickly and have the monkey set loose again. After that I just make sure to not let him lift my shirt (kinda hard, he likes to try to find my belly button and poke it cause he thinks it makes me go "BEE BOO".... which of course I do :D) and that I dont leave my clothes laying around that Ive been sweating in (well all but them esepecially) for him to pick up and throw on his head and run around, another thing he likes to do.

its really NOT that hard, just have to make sacrifices if you like to walk around your own house topless like I do and have to be always mindful of the fact you got stuff on you. Make sure to watch out for the Wifey if shes present so you dont transfer much to her either, but it wont be quite as detrimental as it would be for a child.
 
delsolrob said:
poops, looks like things are going well so far...lifts look great and it sounds like you're happy with your cycle so far!

keep up the great work bud!
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def am man! just wish my lifts were JUMPIN like they have on cycles in the past.... wonder if its cause my training style has slightly changed or what.

I used to bench 115lb DB's for reps(10 on the 3rd set after a 70 warm and 90 intermediate sets!) at 185lbs but now have trouble with 90lb DB's at 200lbs:think:

I think my training style is more geared towards concentrated reps and hypertrophy now then previously it was more a strength thing... dunno, either way I like lifting heavier weights if I can, so hopefully Ill see a jump soon, but as long as I gain or trade off fat for muscle at a decent rate then I really have no problem with not getting stronger.

As long as Im progressing one way or another Im happy.
 
This may have been asked/answered - but how is the pump compared to Dermacrine/Sustain's unit of egress? I know I always had issues with them clogging up.
 
Man I miss Chemo. He was number 1 genius when it came to transdermals. Still yet to be dethroned in research and knowledge.

Adams
 
Tomorrow......and then, oh yes.......1-T will be mine!

Muhahahahaha!!
 
I'd just like to personally thank Kernkraft, and CEL for sponsoring poops and I during our cycles with their "Cycle Assist" product. What an amazing act of generosity, and it is GREATLY appreciated. I think i speak for poops and myself in saying that we are very dedicated to providing informative and unbiased information on our cycles/products for all parties involved.

I'm very excited to give cycle assist a try, and see what it can do for me in the form of protection/support. I received my cycle assist today, so i'll start dosing tomorrow.

Thanks again Kern and CEL! :clap2:
 
DAdams91982 said:
Man I miss Chemo. He was number 1 genius when it came to transdermals. Still yet to be dethroned in research and knowledge.

Adams
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He was one of the original owners, right?
Anyway, I read some cached pages of stuff from him, and damn, he knew his chem. Hell, I read some of Bobo's old post - he's freaking up there, too. Brillant fitness mind.
 
Iron Lungz said:
He was one of the original owners, right?
Anyway, I read some cached pages of stuff from him, and damn, he knew his chem. Hell, I read some of Bobo's old post - he's freaking up there, too. Brillant fitness mind.
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Yeah Chemo was the original owner. Made it for kitchen steroidology. Transdermal discussion was its main topic.

Ah, when bobo shared knowledge, and science. YOU HEAR ME KRUGER? Where are all the carb timing debates now??? :D

Adams
 
Iron Lungz said:
This may have been asked/answered - but how is the pump compared to Dermacrine/Sustain's unit of egress? I know I always had issues with them clogging up.
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check the review and you may be able to deduct the answer but I had already thought of this and forgot to include it in the review....

The fact that its air tight pump container and all and with a chasing bottom, no air pockets are ever created in the bottle, plus theres a cap, like a hairspray can, and all this keeps it from drying out and clogging!

It really is a friggin sweet system, Ill get the enlarged photo and see if I can zoom it for you to see what you can.
 
Trauma1 said:
I'd just like to personally thank Kernkraft, and CEL for sponsoring poops and I during our cycles with their "Cycle Assist" product. What an amazing act of generosity, and it is GREATLY appreciated. I think i speak for poops and myself in saying that we are very dedicated to providing informative and unbiased information on our cycles/products for all parties involved.

I'm very excited to give cycle assist a try, and see what it can do for me in the form of protection/support. I received my cycle assist today, so i'll start dosing tomorrow.

Thanks again Kern and CEL! :clap2:
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see you got that one first :D

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Yes I completely agree and was going to make a post similar as soon as I started my own, thank you so much Kern for taking the initiative and CEL for following through with the sponsorship, you guys are top notch and I cant wait to see what cycle assist will offer in my stack. Ive always been a HUGE advocate of these types of supps even off cycle, a healthy body is one thats primed for growth. Thanks again for being on the lookout for a fellow board member Kern, your the man!
 
poopypants said:
see you got that one first :D

:clap2:
Yes I completely agree and was going to make a post similar as soon as I started my own, thank you so much Kern for taking the initiative and CEL for following through with the sponsorship, you guys are top notch and I cant wait to see what cycle assist will offer in my stack. Ive always been a HUGE advocate of these types of supps even off cycle, a healthy body is one thats primed for growth. Thanks again for being on the lookout for a fellow board member Kern, your the man!
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CEL is for sure a stand up company! with top notch reps!! It pays to do great and detailed logs poop! you earned it!

Thanks
GJJ
 
poopypants said:
First I let his mom know when I got to put it on so she can watch him and not try to jump on me or reach up on the counter (yes even at 16 months he can reach the counter and open doors cause hes a frickin giant) and get some on him... thats the toughest part really.

What I do is make sure I ONLY apply to areas of my body I can cover, chest torso, shoulders, sides, upper back/traps and if some is left over my legs serve as the wipe down spot to get as much off my hands as possible. I even BARELY wet my hands first and then rub as much as I can on my legs too so that its not wasted. Then I thoroughly wash my hands and nails with hot water and wait for the stuff to dry.

This stuff is MUCH better then others, it dries quickly and isnt all greasy after the fact so I can get a shirt on fairly quickly and have the monkey set loose again. After that I just make sure to not let him lift my shirt (kinda hard, he likes to try to find my belly button and poke it cause he thinks it makes me go "BEE BOO".... which of course I do :D) and that I dont leave my clothes laying around that Ive been sweating in (well all but them esepecially) for him to pick up and throw on his head and run around, another thing he likes to do.

its really NOT that hard, just have to make sacrifices if you like to walk around your own house topless like I do and have to be always mindful of the fact you got stuff on you. Make sure to watch out for the Wifey if shes present so you dont transfer much to her either, but it wont be quite as detrimental as it would be for a child.
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Right on, I'm still undecided. Great log btw. I'll be watching this closely to see what happens. I've thought about making my own 1-andro transdermal at a higher concentration to try and minimize any potential hazard. I do have some experience in concocting them, I just have to work on the solubilities for these compounds.
 
Well, this really sucks. For some reason my 1-T package has been delayed until November 25th!

Damn it!! :frustrate:frustrate::frustrate
 
Quick note BTW....

Acne on the chest, shoulders and upper back.... aka application areas.... has increased exponentially.

Must be doing something androgenic!!!!

Also seem to look slightly tighter today, like Im dropping some BF pretty quick, abs are standing out more, bottom of pecs are more cut up and my tris horseshoe is standing out more when flacid..... and still the same weight....

Hopefully this is just a start and once its started flowing even more it will start boosting muscle mass as well....




Another note...

Last couple plsin shakes and meals Ive had I was generous with my pslin... like 675mg right with the meal not even before it 15 min like normal... I will eat a HUGE meal or shake and STILL get hypo and feel like SHIIIII. Its rediculous.

So much so that I think this bulk is WAY more potent then the standard pslin, specially when dosed right with the meal itself, like its supercharging my own insulin response... its a lil too much.

I am going to lower the dose back to 224mg and take it near the end of my meals instead to see if that does better today, starting with my meal now of at lest 70g of carb from noodles and a can of tuna. If I still feel sick again then I will go back to dosing only before meals 15 min (supposedly this lowers the amount of insulin your body makes as its already increased glut4 expression itself and disposes of the carbs without the help of insulin) and if THAT makes me sick I will be dropping Pslin altogether and try again during PCT.

I again have also increased my fats and pro intake and still am seeing this leaning out.... crazy. Cant wait for thanksgiving to just CHOW and have all that leftover turkey to feed my face on... love my turkey:D
 
Log Update, Day 20, Arms (Bi/Tri)

Alright as I said above in my last post Ive been playin with Pslin in diff doses and what not... well yesterday I sent myself Hypo before ever getting to the gym and felt tossed... was no way I could have completed a successful legs workout without pukin everywhere and prob passing out... at the same time.

Tonight I coulda made up for it instead of hittin arms BUT they were just really callin to me and I had to submit.

Tonight I decided to try a lil different setup on the mass monster shake using an Isopure drink (the zero carb RTD, grape) and then the following.

40g Ion exchange whey isolate- Isopure, Zero carb, Grape
40g carb - brown sugar
60g carb - Maltos
60g carb - Blended oats
800mg - Pslin
5.5g - Creatine mono
6g - BA
5.5g - Leucine
10g - poseidon
1600mg - Taurine
3 - Xforce
10mg- Epi


I took 2 Xforce about 40min prior with 5 pumps 1-T and one upon arriving with my Epi. Didnt start drinking the concoction till I got to the gym as thats where I bought the Isopure, but had the rest ready to go in an old 32 oz gotorade bottle. I sipped it through the workout and then finished the last 1/4th right after the last set.

The workout was INTENSE I only had 40 min or so to workout so I went at it... and didnt feel slowed or weakened a bit with shorter interset recovery time. Didnt feel any discomfort at all in the stomach through the workout either and DURING the workout didnt feel like I was bout to go Hypo.

Afer the fact the whole way home m arms were SOLID pumped, made it hard to drive almost..... though when I got home I felt a lil woozy, not super bad as it has been and my lips and hands were a lil numb so still started to go hypo.

Since then I have started to feel better and will likely have my first meal now (almost 2.5 hours later) cause I know I can stomach it.

I really liked this set up but will prob lower my pslin dose slightly.. try 500mg first see If I can get the same results without any negative after effects. these protocols that elicit HUGE insulin release as well as the Glut4 expression from Pslins independent reaction are def no joke, very very strong and maybe almost too strong for me. Dunno if Im just fairly insulin sensitive or what but like I said I will lower the dose and see if that works... tryin to find my sweet spot for benefits with no Hypo effects is tough work for sure.


Well heres how the lifts went... a lil less lifts then last week and not as many supersets although the rest time was still almost non existent due to time restraints so the fact I completed heavier weights and higher volume sets still says alot... was VERY pleased.


Lifts:

Warm up super set:
Seated Cable curl*- 40x20
Rope Tri pressdown- 125x10
Seated Cable curl*- 50x10
Rope Tri pressdown- 125x10


Hammer curls- 40/40x20(l/r alternating 10/10), 35/35x20(l/r alternating 10/10)

Super Set
EZ bar skull crusher- 55x10
EZ reverse Curl- 55x10
EZ bar skull crusher- 65x10
EZ reverse Curl- 65x10
EZ bar skull crusher- 75x10


Single hand tri press down(l/r)- 40x15/15, 60x10/10, 70x10/10
Double Cable curl(l/r)- 45/45x15, 50/50x10, 40/40x12
V-grip Tri pressdown- 100x10
Rope Tri pressdown- 125x10


*Done with seated row machine and elbows rested on knees to isolate bis


Like I said felt, strong, strong, strong this workout and did all that in less then 40min, felt great. Also had the chance to apply 1-T directly to my arms and shoulders for this dose as the lil monkey is doin a sleep over with his nanna while Mom goes out for the night, so I didnt have to worry bout any transfer, wouldnt doubt if this helped somewhat as well.... increased localized effects from Dermals are def possible.

DAMN though... I wanted to get a pumped measurement of my arms and forgot to, they were friggin huge still when I got home, lol..... oh well next time.

with that I gotta go eat me some grub... prob 8-10oz lean ground beef a glass of skim milk and a couple slices of wheat bread. mmmmmmm.
 
Logs lookn great guys!!
 
poopypants said:
def am man! just wish my lifts were JUMPIN like they have on cycles in the past.... wonder if its cause my training style has slightly changed or what.

I used to bench 115lb DB's for reps(10 on the 3rd set after a 70 warm and 90 intermediate sets!) at 185lbs but now have trouble with 90lb DB's at 200lbs:think:

I think my training style is more geared towards concentrated reps and hypertrophy now then previously it was more a strength thing... dunno, either way I like lifting heavier weights if I can, so hopefully Ill see a jump soon, but as long as I gain or trade off fat for muscle at a decent rate then I really have no problem with not getting stronger.

As long as Im progressing one way or another Im happy.
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Exactly bro, thats what its all about, and your making great progress, very inspirational bro, keep it up.
 
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