Training log revamp ROUND 3 lol

I don’t have any issues like that, but my mother in law uses a lot of a CBD rub she homebrews on her bad hip - especially before bed. And my own mother was taking Tylenol before bed for multiple years to prevent waking from shoulder pain, until the same MIL got my mom to try some oral CBD before bed. Now she sleeps even better and her doctor is happy because her liver damage from the Tylenol is improving.

Sh1t, didnt even consider CBD. Would certainly prefer that to an Rx for sure.
 
Sh1t, didnt even consider CBD. Would certainly prefer that to an Rx for sure.

Pretty affordable/available, and you don’t need any THC in it for the anti-inflammatory effects to work either (they don’t use any), but that’s another component you could keep in it possibly if it helped.
 
Bros, anyone ITT experimented with epitalon for sleep and inflammation/pain benefits, or DSIP for sleep? Got some shoulder osteoarthritis going on, and rotator cuff soft tissue aches. Already have a stockpile of BPC and TB, topical curcumin etc etc, just needing something to help with sleep.
I have the same shoulder issues but haven't used the things you mentioned outside of bpc/tb.

Pretty affordable/available, and you don’t need any THC in it for the anti-inflammatory effects to work either (they don’t use any), but that’s another component you could keep in it possibly if it helped.
The most potent cbd cream they had at a local dispensery slightly helped, not a ton but it was noticeable a bit. But, Tylenol and Ibuprofen did nothing so I would definitely say that cbd works better then the otc painkiller stuff. Pain drugs never really work on me so if I see some benefits from the cream I suspect it will work for others pretty well
 
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Oh yeah CBD is good stuff. I prefer full spectrum flower but CBD is very effective especially in a tincture. During smoking pauses I always use CBD to calm nerves, help with inflammation and sleep. A good strong tincture was definitely the most effective way i found to use it.
 
Oh yeah CBD is good stuff. I prefer full spectrum flower but CBD is very effective especially in a tincture. During smoking pauses I always use CBD to calm nerves, help with inflammation and sleep. A good strong tincture was definitely the most effective way i found to use it.

Any specific brands you like of the tincture?
 
Any specific brands you like of the tincture?
Unfortunately, I can not remember the brands I used, since I haven't used them in a year or two,but I would just speak with the people in the headshop about which ones they got the best feedback on. If you have a decent head shop / smoke shop near you. They tend to ask people for feedback so they can make good recommendations. I am pretty sure most of the ones I got had like 2000mg of CBD in them though. It was a strong tincture. Also the way you use it helps a lot. Since a tincture that goes through the mucus membranes after you let it sit under yout tongue for a bit then swish it around in your mouth like mouthwash. So it gets all over the cheeks, and gums. Then don't drink anything for 15 minutes so it really has an opportunity to get in. Many people will drink something after to get rid of the taste, but you are just rinsing the CBD down the gut where some of it can be destroyed by doing that. I read the amount that gets absorbed in this manner is much higher than just holding under your tongue and then swallowing it.

When I used this stuff I would be lights out within 15 minutes. Anxiety and stress way down, and aches and pains too. Also Apex has Relax which is good stuff, and I think someone else just came out or is about to come out with something like Canna-Ease or something.
 
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Unfortunately, I can not remember the brands I used, since I haven't used them in a year or two,but I would just speak with the people in the headshop about which ones they got the best feedback on. If you have a decent head shop / smoke shop near you. They tend to ask people for feedback so they can make good recommendations. I am pretty sure most of the ones I got had like 2000mg of CBD in them though. It was a strong tincture. Also the way you use it helps a lot. Since a tincture that goes through the mucus membranes after you let it sit under yout tongue for a bit then swish it around in your mouth like mouthwash. So it gets all over the cheeks, and gums. Then don't drink anything for 15 minutes so it really has an opportunity to get in. Many people will drink something after to get rid of the taste, but you are just rinsing the CBD down the gut where some of it can be destroyed by doing that. I read the amount that gets absorbed in this manner is much higher than just holding under your tongue and then swallowing it.

When I used this stuff I would be lights out within 15 minutes. Anxiety and stress way down, and aches and pains too. Also Apex has Relax which is good stuff, and I think someone else just came out or is about to come out with something like Canna-Ease or something.
Do you follow the same rule about not drinking anything if you take anadrol ( or any oral really)sublingual PWO? I didn't even think about how you you woukd just be washing it down without it really absorbing. I always just swished it around for a few minutes until the pill completely dissolved and then drank my PWO drink right after
 
Life update, most of these nagging injuries are pretty much gone but the right shoulder and right knee still a little funky. For legs I've only done bodyweight squats, single db deadlifts and jumping rope lately. The first 2 are actually hard because of whatever is up with the knee (I'm thinking torn meniscus) aunts a nurse and she thinks the same but need a mri on my knee and shoulder still (tomorrow is shoulder but hopefully will do knee too)

@MrKleen73 your package is going into the mail today, sorry it's been a busy week and while I'd like to have a great excuse..... the truth is om in pain so I been smoking pot after work and I fall asleep with this strain lol. But it's packed up, girlfriend is printing shipping label and I can get tracking if you want.

4th of July physique.... didn't get even close to what I was hoping for but I'm in "good shape" enough to be satisfied given the circumstances. Upper body training is 80% and lower body is pretty much rehab and endurance.

Cycle plans moving forward..... none.

Don't feel like it, don't wanna pin all the time, don't want to keep getting injured. Down to 1/2 cc of sustanon every 5 days or so. Bpc/tb just started on the knee this morning, looking for hgh to pair with it. Slowly cutting till summers over and maybe longer.

Also diet has been very strange for me.

Coffee with cream, if training early IL have a scoop or 2 of whey. On my days off it's 6 eggs and some cheese and salsa

Meat and a piece of citrus fruit

Fat free Greek Yogurt before the gym

Creatine, glutamine and eaa intra

Protein shake with water post workout

Dinner is whatever we cool, mostly meat and vegetables.

And any day I'm under 2800 calories (usually non training days) IL eat some kind of dessert if I want. Or IL have a omlette if I don't wanna be a fat kid.

Calorie wise I'm hanging out between maintenance and a slight deficit most days and usually 1 day a week when we do take out I go over. I'm not very hungry during the day but very hungry after dinner at bedtime.

I'm also holding a lot of fluid. For 3 weeks straight when I take of my socks the indent is there for hours. Mostly water In the legs, but a little in the midsection. I would normally say it's just fat but I wake up with a full set of visible abs and have a bloated midsection by dinner
 
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Man I hate it your shoulder and knee are still injured. Hopefully they can see what the cause is with the MRI, so you can get on a treatment plan. Maybe the BPC/TB 500 will give you some relief.
 
Thanks on the shipping, I have been in the same boat myself. So I will have to get yours in the mail tomorrow. I keep forgetting to put it in my work bag. Setting an alarm on my phone now to remind me tonight.
 
Keep us posted on the MRI results. Why do you think you’re retaining the extra fluid?

Also, if you ever get where you want the cycle, you really don’t have to do tons of pins. Remember your buddy that loads up a couple syringes of Sust & EQ into his hips - “I’m good for the month.”
 
Keep us posted on the MRI results. Why do you think you’re retaining the extra fluid?

Also, if you ever get where you want the cycle, you really don’t have to do tons of pins. Remember your buddy that loads up a couple syringes of Sust & EQ into his hips - “I’m good for the month.”
I'm honestly not sure about the edema, I really don't have a clue. Maybe just a lot of inflammation or something? Edema and inflammation can go hand and hand sometimes. I wish I had a real answer cus I'm just guessing
 
Thanks on the shipping, I have been in the same boat myself. So I will have to get yours in the mail tomorrow. I keep forgetting to put it in my work bag. Setting an alarm on my phone now to remind me tonight.
I'm not stressing it take yiur time, also your estimated delivery said Wednesday the 5th. I'm not sure how to see the tracking # I need my girlfriend for that lol. I'm so bad with computers 😆 outside searching information and checking emails I'm useless.
 
I'm not stressing it take yiur time, also your estimated delivery said Wednesday the 5th. I'm not sure how to see the tracking # I need my girlfriend for that lol. I'm so bad with computers 😆 outside searching information and checking emails I'm useless.
Dude feel you on that all I can do on a computer is check email watch YouTube and buy steroids
 
Now if Ida bergfoth did porn I'd be into that..have yiu guys seem pics or training videos of her lately...unreal
I have not, but I'll check em out
 
Now if Ida bergfoth did porn I'd be into that..have yiu guys seem pics or training videos of her lately...unreal

Never heard of her, but I don’t follow any social media, let alone other random women (don’t think the wife would be keen on that ).

Definitely a legit muscle goddess - rare to see that level of size while retaining such a feminine appearance.
 
Never heard of her, but I don’t follow any social media, let alone other random women (don’t think the wife would be keen on that ).

Definitely a legit muscle goddess - rare to see that level of size while retaining such a feminine appearance.
Cute face, but a little to jacked for me
 
Joe Lindner/joesthetics has died. Naturally, no pun intended, every internet goober is speculating that it was heart attack. Looks like aneurysm.
 
Joe Lindner/joesthetics has died. Naturally, no pun intended, every internet goober is speculating that it was heart attack. Looks like aneurysm.

That is so terrible to hear. I really liked that guy. I don’t follow any of that influencer crap & wrongly assumed he was a douche because he was always presenting an aesthetic-focused physique, which I do not personally value.

But then I listened to him speak, in interviews and videos with others, and he was always very adamant about intense, focused training. He wasn’t the type to promote leaning on the drugs, but rather the reality that you can’t look like that without a lot of discipline & effort in diet & training too. He was helpful and kept it real.

He seemed like a true gym rat, and I always heard him promote positivity & hard work. I’m sad to hear this - to me, Joe was a real one.
 
Lots of peeps feel the same way man. Joe is popular in a similiar way Cbum is, not exactly the same, Joe was certainly more extroverted but theyre both very likeable dudes (personality and message/philosophy) once you get passed the stereotype. In some ways Joe was more transparent, at least regarding PEDs.
 
Joe Lindner/joesthetics has died. Naturally, no pun intended, every internet goober is speculating that it was heart attack. Looks like aneurysm.
Yea I went on YouTube and Muscular development had posted something 1 hour before that said rip Joe Linder..I was like ahh damn. You're right @Hyde About the hard training everytime that moron Tony huge had Joe on he woukd always be like wtf are you guys doing on all these drugs. When Tony brought up doing the Mass blast the look on Joe's face was one of both horror and disgust. I prefer more of an open bodybuilding physique but I'll never take anything away from Joe dude trained and dieter his ass off
 
Injury updates, bpc/tb500 is doing nothing for my shoulders outside of immediate short lived pain relief probably from a reduction in inflammation post injection.

BUT! My knee on the other hand seems significantly better in just a few days, I'm pinching the skin directly above where it hurts and going in about a half inch so I'm either hitting the Injury or just before it, hard to tell. But it's working well I'd say and I'm gonna keep going for another 2 weeks or so, maybe longer.
 
Ya sounds like a aneurysm and apparently someone in his immediate family died from the same thing. Weird.
Did yiu watch the vigorous Steve video. That was a tough watch. I had no idea those 2 were that close. Steve wasn't nearly as emotional when Leo died. Not even gonna lie I shed a few tears watching the Steve video. It's a tough seeing a grown man just break down like that
 
Did yiu watch the vigorous Steve video. That was a tough watch. I had no idea those 2 were that close. Steve wasn't nearly as emotional when Leo died. Not even gonna lie I shed a few tears watching the Steve video. It's a tough seeing a grown man just break down like that

Yeah he had to do the video in a couple takes, it cuts part way through when he starts to lose it. It really is sad; Joe was so young.
 
Hate to hear it isn't helping the shoulders, but at least you are getting something out of it with the knee.

I never watched any of his stuff to my knowledge but will have to check some of it out.
 
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Gonna do this just to stay on track. I wanna get healed and lean without loosing too much strength in the process. I also decided I'm gonna temporarily quit using thc during this time. One because it makes me lazy and hungry but 2 so I can clean out for a drug test to go back to a union Job on a government site.

So I figured I can technically/possibly accomplish like 5 different goals in 2-3 months if I just start everything now.
 
Not happy about giving up my pot lol. I've been using at dinner, eat and relax till bed but it's been keeping me hovering at maintenance without the greatest food selections at times so it's time for a break amongst other reasons
 
Not happy about giving up my pot lol. I've been using at dinner, eat and relax till bed but it's been keeping me hovering at maintenance without the greatest food selections at times so it's time for a break amongst other reasons
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Last time I smoked I got paranoid af....the weed nowadays is too fvcking strong
 
It is strong af these days, (I've had stronger back when real purple haze was around) but weed don't make me paranoid no matter how much I smoke or eat, I just fall asleep eventually. Unless I was already stressed out about something really bad then I might hyperfocus on it and get a little bit paranoid about what the outcome might be but that's probably anxiety, not paranoid. I think people need to find there lowest dose they can take without getting high and go Slightly over that. For me it's about 10mg and I'm good but not high, 15mg puts me in the perfect zone and anything over 25 I'm bent lol
 
Happy 4th of July to all my bros on here..we are still allowed to say that without being racist, sexist, etc..etc..right?
 
It is strong af these days, (I've had stronger back when real purple haze was around) but weed don't make me paranoid no matter how much I smoke or eat, I just fall asleep eventually. Unless I was already stressed out about something really bad then I might hyperfocus on it and get a little bit paranoid about what the outcome might be but that's probably anxiety, not paranoid. I think people need to find there lowest dose they can take without getting high and go Slightly over that. For me it's about 10mg and I'm good but not high, 15mg puts me in the perfect zone and anything over 25 I'm bent lol
Weed is the one drug I could never handle..sometimes I wonder if I only could have then maybe I would've never gotten so deep into the hard drugs.
 
Weed is the one drug I could never handle..sometimes I wonder if I only could have then maybe I would've never gotten so deep into the hard drugs.
My drug use dosent cover a wide variety of rec drugs but I know that when I use do do coke on the weekends I had no problem driving or going out in public, but if I smoke or eat too much weed I don't wanna drive or leave the house lol.
 
My drug use dosent cover a wide variety of rec drugs but I know that when I use do do coke on the weekends I had no problem driving or going out in public, but if I smoke or eat too much weed I don't wanna drive or leave the house lol.
Dude I'm the EXACT same any upper I have a blast ( mo pun intended) but 2 hits of weed and I'm staring out the window like a damn crack head
 
Hey @Mikereyn513 on your question in Smont’s other thread on comparison with Anadrol and Superdrol. For me Anadrol provides more of a strength boost than Superdrol, but Superdrol seems to make the muscles pop more than Anadrol, especially the delts, traps, and arms, but a lot of that is the glycogen storage in the muscles. I think Superdrol hits the lipids harder and digestive tract as well. If I had 4 weeks before a strength event I would choose Anadrol, 4 weeks before a bodybuilding show Superdrol if that were my choices say with a Test/Mast cycle.
 
Hey @Mikereyn513 on your question in Smont’s other thread on comparison with Anadrol and Superdrol. For me Anadrol provides more of a strength boost than Superdrol, but Superdrol seems to make the muscles pop more than Anadrol, especially the delts, traps, and arms, but a lot of that is the glycogen storage in the muscles. I think Superdrol hits the lipids harder and digestive tract as well. If I had 4 weeks before a strength event I would choose Anadrol, 4 weeks before a bodybuilding show Superdrol if that were my choices say with a Test/Mast cycle.
That's pretty much what I thought. I remember @Smont Telling me something similar awhile back. I still have like 10 anadrol left, my diet break is over so I'll use them when I go to Vegas for a week over labor day. The first 3 days I there I'll use them to slowly carb back up and then the rest I'll use pwo when I hit all the gyms. Hoping to see some pros while I'm there because everyone will be deep into Olympia prep by then
 
Hey @Mikereyn513 on your question in Smont’s other thread on comparison with Anadrol and Superdrol. For me Anadrol provides more of a strength boost than Superdrol, but Superdrol seems to make the muscles pop more than Anadrol, especially the delts, traps, and arms, but a lot of that is the glycogen storage in the muscles. I think Superdrol hits the lipids harder and digestive tract as well. If I had 4 weeks before a strength event I would choose Anadrol, 4 weeks before a bodybuilding show Superdrol if that were my choices say with a Test/Mast cycle.
That's pretty much what I thought. I remember @Smont Telling me something similar awhile back. I still have like 10 anadrol left, my diet break is over so I'll use them when I go to Vegas for a week over labor day. The first 3 days I there I'll use them to slowly carb back up and then the rest I'll use pwo when I hit all the gyms. Hoping to see some pros while I'm there because everyone will be deep into Olympia prep by then
I'm lost, I must have missed the question
 
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