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Training log revamp ROUND 3 lol

akboom87 said:
It’s got higher protein in the contents already if you are wondering about adding protein to the mix.
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If you add a scoop of whey, a mashed banana and a egg it bakes a little denser like a cake and is pretty good. IL put cool whip on it and eat it like dessert but it's like 40gm pro per serving.

Talking about the pancake mix one
 
Smont said:
If you add a scoop of whey, a mashed banana and a egg it bakes a little denser like a cake and is pretty good. IL put cool whip on it and eat it like dessert but it's like 40gm pro per serving.

Talking about the pancake mix one
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I do the exact same thing...that is my go to breakfast or dessert. Can't beat the macros for fixing my sweet tooth. Lol
 
Smont said:
If you add a scoop of whey, a mashed banana and a egg it bakes a little denser like a cake and is pretty good. IL put cool whip on it and eat it like dessert but it's like 40gm pro per serving.

Talking about the pancake mix one
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I'll have to try that sounds bomb af
 
Smont said:
If you add a scoop of whey, a mashed banana and a egg it bakes a little denser like a cake and is pretty good. IL put cool whip on it and eat it like dessert but it's like 40gm pro per serving.

Talking about the pancake mix one
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In the baking section Kodiak has this mix called " protein balls" ( I'm not joking) they look like cookies before you bake them. Kinda sounds like your recipe here.
 
Mikereyn513 said:
In the baking section Kodiak has this mix called " protein balls" ( I'm not joking) they look like cookies before you bake them. Kinda sounds like your recipe here.
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It could be similar, there's not a huge difference between pancake batter, cake mix, cookie dough, cupcake batter, there all only a few ingredients away from becoming one of the others
 
Smont said:
It could be similar, there's not a huge difference between pancake batter, cake mix, cookie dough, cupcake batter, there all only a few ingredients away from becoming one of the others
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I think the difference with the protein balls is they have oats in them and you add PB and, or honey to them.

Although I don't think the the protein in these protein pancakes is very bioavailable, or at least does not have a very anabolic amino profile. Most of the protein comes from wheat gluten and wheat isolate. So unless eating with a much better protein source I wouldn't count all of the protein in them toward your protein requirements. Adding in some extra whey will do the trick. Unless trying to increase fiber intake you are probably better off just using regular pancake mix and adding in extra whey. Probably a lot cheaper too.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I think the difference with the protein balls is they have oats in them and you add PB and, or honey to them.

Although I don't think the the protein in these protein pancakes is very bioavailable, or at least does not have a very anabolic amino profile. Most of the protein comes from wheat gluten and wheat isolate. So unless eating with a much better protein source I wouldn't count all of the protein in them toward your protein requirements. Adding in some extra whey will do the trick. Unless trying to increase fiber intake you are probably better off just using regular pancake mix and adding in extra whey. Probably a lot cheaper too.
That's what ultimate nutrition used in their iso gainer 1000..wheat isolate!! When I worked at gnc years ago I didn't even know that was a thing. I asked my boss who was pretty knowledgeable when it came to supplements and he just said profit margins and did the money thing we all do with our hands. I was like damn atleast gnc brands still use whey as the protein source in their mass gainers. Which I use to just shake my head when guys would buy them. I'm like do you know how much top sirloin and eggs yiu could buy with this same 80$
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MrKleen73 said:
I think the difference with the protein balls is they have oats in them and you add PB and, or honey to them.

Although I don't think the the protein in these protein pancakes is very bioavailable, or at least does not have a very anabolic amino profile. Most of the protein comes from wheat gluten and wheat isolate. So unless eating with a much better protein source I wouldn't count all of the protein in them toward your protein requirements. Adding in some extra whey will do the trick. Unless trying to increase fiber intake you are probably better off just using regular pancake mix and adding in extra whey. Probably a lot cheaper too.
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I get the Aldi brand, it's like 3.99 a box. I'm adding whey, egg and a little fairlife so over half the protein per serving is a complete protein. But I also use the regular pancake mix sometimes, it ends up being about 15gm protein less per serving and about 20gm carb extra per serving
 
Smont said:
I get the Aldi brand, it's like 3.99 a box. I'm adding whey, egg and a little fairlife so over half the protein per serving is a complete protein. But I also use the regular pancake mix sometimes, it ends up being about 15gm protein less per serving and about 20gm carb extra per serving
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It is funny how we think. I have used the aldi brand as well. It isn't that bad also.
 
Btw, have you guys seen how Gordon Ryan looks like lately? And this is not to mock him or anything like that, he's been dealing with some serious health issues, which some of them have had him hospitalised. Antibiotics, laying in hospital bed and not being able to train at all has had quite the effect on his physique (like would for anyone). It's just wild, as this is not how I've used to seeing him.

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KvanH said:
Btw, have you guys seen how Gordon Ryan looks at the moment? And this is not to mock him or anythling like that, he's been dealiing with some serious health issues, which some of them have had him hospitalised. Antibiotics, laying in hospital bed and not being able to train at all has had quite the effect on his physique (like would for anyone). It's just wild, as this is not how I've used to seeing him.

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He has a lot of gut related health issues if I'm not mistaken (streptococcus infections)But if you come off cycle and stop eating and exercising then this is the end result. 10-12 weeks after he gets over the medical stuff and he will be back to his old self.

He's probably also the only guy on the planet who intentionally trys to make himself look like a old man lol. I never understood the grey hair/beard thing lol
 
Smont said:
He has a lot of gut related health issues if I'm not mistaken (streptococcus infections)But if you come off cycle and stop eating and exercising then this is the end result. 10-12 weeks after he gets over the medical stuff and he will be back to his old self.

He's probably also the only guy on the planet who intentionally trys to make himself look like a old man lol. I never understood the grey hair/beard thing lol
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Yeah, I think he's had gastroparesis and surgery demanding case of strep throat and can't train for 5 months or something like that.
 
KvanH said:
Yeah, I think he's had gastroparesis and surgery demanding case of strep throat and can't train for 5 months or something like that.
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Oh damn, I didn't know all that. I was just watching a documentary on him the other day. Dude is a beast lol
 
KvanH said:
Agreed, a beast. What documentary, on what platform may I find it?
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It was something I came across on YouTube, it's not a legit documentary but it follows hem working up the ranks, there's quite a few things about his career. I'm gonna look for the link hold on
 
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Here some clips but there's another that's a hour long I can't seem to find it tho, give me a few
 
Kind of in the same realm, I watched the new McGregor document series the last weekend. Was pretty good. Quality production and clearly better, than the previous Conor documentary, IMO. Nothing amazing, but I'd say worth a watch for any MMA fan (even if not a fan of McGregor).
 
I looked through my history on every device and I can't find the long one. It basically followed him through his early career and then a couple of the big tournaments where he's beating ufc heavyweights in submissions
 
Smont said:
I looked through my history on every device and I can't find the long one. It basically followed him through his early career and then a couple of the big tournaments where he's beating ufc heavyweights in submissions
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Ok, NP. Maybe it'll pop on my YT recommendations (if it was in YT), after watching the other clips. In any case, no need to turn the house upside down, lol.
 
@Smont ( or anybody else really) didn't know if you still needed carnatine but chase irons is doing a 40% off deal on his website. Just picked up a bottle, the only thing is it doesn't ship until the 27th when he gets back from Greece. Hence the promo code vacay.
 
KvanH said:
Ok, NP. Maybe it'll pop on my YT recommendations (if it was in YT), after watching the other clips. In any case, no need to turn the house upside down, lol.
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Lol, just seeing this. I never did find the long one. I'm thinking after I watched one of those it must of just came on after.
 
Mikereyn513 said:
@Smont ( or anybody else really) didn't know if you still needed carnatine but chase irons is doing a 40% off deal on his website. Just picked up a bottle, the only thing is it doesn't ship until the 27th when he gets back from Greece. Hence the promo code vacay.
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I still need to pick some up but honestly, I've been doing very minimal training or anything so I'm not in a rush.

I been hitting the boxing workouts 3x a week and doing 30-45min light to moderate weight workouts. And then decided to take a "deload" and I've done nothing in the past 4 days or so and will get back to it tomorrow

Everything hurts lol. Shoulders, wrists, hands, knees, elbows. Everything lol. I can't even remember the last time I pinned any test 🙃, but the past few days of doing nothing seems to be helping
 
Honest to God I feel like I'm just severely overtrained and have a ton of systemic inflammation

Or

Lyme disease and arthritis in every joint so hopefully it's the first guess lol. I don't think it's this ☝️I just don't know what else could possibly cause every joint to be sore for 2-3 weeks so I randomly blurted out things that make joints hurt
 
Hope you get to feeling better. Dealing with a pain in the ass shoulder situation right now myself. Hurts when not lifting but not during any lifts. So can't even figure out what it is I am doing exactly that is lighting it up. Very frustrating.
 
Mikereyn513 said:
Oh crap, i forgot you guys are fathers, happy fathers day to all of you for real.
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Thanks, and Happy Father's Day to everyone in here from this old man too!
 
I've got some tendinitis or something in my left forearm...I think from DB hammer curls.... sh1t sux
 
MrKleen73 said:
Hope you get to feeling better. Dealing with a pain in the ass shoulder situation right now myself. Hurts when not lifting but not during any lifts. So can't even figure out what it is I am doing exactly that is lighting it up. Very frustrating.
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The crazy part about my shoulder is it hurts the most when I'm just sitting upright. Like driving or playing cards or sitting at my desk writing. But when I'm walking around and being active it doesn't hurt. If I'm lifting and I get in a bad position or path of motion IL feel it but if I'm conscious of the pain and stay out of certain things I can get through a great workout still. I pretty much cut all pressing weights in half and reduced rowing weights by 1/3 to 1/2 and that's rough mentally, but getting 4-5 sets of 12 to 15 with a rest pause or drop set at the end gets a great pump. I been doing so.e super sets too so that it forced me to reduce weights
 
Mikereyn513 said:
Low dose nandrolone, or high dose😜
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Do you get joint relief from deca or npp? I've heard a million inline they do but I never experienced it. Most the guys I know in person also say they don't notice joint pain relief on nandrolone.

I don't believe it will help tendinitis tho at all
 
Smont said:
The crazy part about my shoulder is it hurts the most when I'm just sitting upright. Like driving or playing cards or sitting at my desk writing. But when I'm walking around and being active it doesn't hurt. If I'm lifting and I get in a bad position or path of motion IL feel it but if I'm conscious of the pain and stay out of certain things I can get through a great workout still. I pretty much cut all pressing weights in half and reduced rowing weights by 1/3 to 1/2 and that's rough mentally, but getting 4-5 sets of 12 to 15 with a rest pause or drop set at the end gets a great pump. I been doing so.e super sets too so that it forced me to reduce weights
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Yeah, that sounds similar. I can lift because I keep myself in good positions, but the stress from it leaves behind some pain for me mostly when laying down. I noticed that it only happens when I am in a lax position. Like if I protract in some way without any tension on my back muscle it will bark loud! Like a jolt of about an 8-9 on the pain scale. I have really been trying to pay a lot of attention to what I am doing that causes it, and what my body is doing to compensate for it so I can describe it better to my ART guy. I am both really looking forward to seeing him and dreading it. There is no way around it ART phucking hurts!!! It has also been very effective for me in the past. Either way, I am a bit nervous because the pain is in that rotator cuff area. Could be lots of other things too but really not wanting to deal with another tear in my RC, this side already has a torn subscap, labrum, and partially subluxed biceps tendon. So part of me is like F it, if it is bad I can finally get all of that fixed, but the other part is like Oh Hell No I am making progress right now!!!
 
manifesto said:
How much do you usually run? And do you inject it right into the pain area?
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I know you didn't ask me but I've done it at 250mcg per day up to 1mg per day and have even done 2mg up front with 500mcg per day after the initial dose. I always inject it as close to the injury as possible.
 
Smont said:
I know you didn't ask me but I've done it at 250mcg per day up to 1mg per day and have even done 2mg up front with 500mcg per day after the initial dose. I always inject it as close to the injury as possible.
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How much of a difference did you see with the higher doses. Was there a limit where you felt like maybe the benefit did not justify the increased dose? IE 500 was amazing, and yeah 1000 was better but only marginally? I know, not really something easy to track. Just curious how much benefit there is to the increased doses over say 250 a day? I have only run it at 200 so I am curious.
 
Smont said:
Do you get joint relief from deca or npp? I've heard a million inline they do but I never experienced it. Most the guys I know in person also say they don't notice joint pain relief on nandrolone.

I don't believe it will help tendinitis tho at all
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That was just an excuse to add more gear, nandrolone wouldn't help tendinitis at all, if it did we would've heard about it. And honestly I've never felt joint pain relief from it either but full transparency I don't have joint issues so I wouldn't know if it was doing anything anyways. I'm curious to see how my right knee reacts in the fall when I do my off season cycle with nandrolone. My knee didn't really start bothering during squats until after I got off of it the last time so I can make a better judgment then
 
MrKleen73 said:
How much of a difference did you see with the higher doses. Was there a limit where you felt like maybe the benefit did not justify the increased dose? IE 500 was amazing, and yeah 1000 was better but only marginally? I know, not really something easy to track. Just curious how much benefit there is to the increased doses over say 250 a day? I have only run it at 200 so I am curious.
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I usually start at 250 a day, and see how well it helps that first week. If I haven’t seen enough improvement, I’ll increase to 500 a day, but that usually does the trick. I’ve never ran over 500 a day, but there seems to be a marked improvement between 250 and 500 for me. I’ve never tried the loading with a large dose up front followed by smaller doses, but I am intrigued how well that worked, especially if it shortens the duration of how long you need it. Most of the time, unless it’s pretty bad 250 seems to work most of the time.
 
gphagan1 said:
I usually start at 250 a day, and see how well it helps that first week. If I haven’t seen enough improvement, I’ll increase to 500 a day, but that usually does the trick. I’ve never ran over 500 a day, but there seems to be a marked improvement between 250 and 500 for me. I’ve never tried the loading with a large dose up front followed by smaller doses, but I am intrigued how well that worked, especially if it shortens the duration of how long you need it. Most of the time, unless it’s pretty bad 250 seems to work most of the time.
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Thanks, I have a couple of vials and plan on reconstituting one today after my ART session. I just have to get the wife on board to do the injections. I can't reach back there. She won't be happy but I am sure she will do it for me.
 
MrKleen73 said:
How much of a difference did you see with the higher doses. Was there a limit where you felt like maybe the benefit did not justify the increased dose? IE 500 was amazing, and yeah 1000 was better but only marginally? I know, not really something easy to track. Just curious how much benefit there is to the increased doses over say 250 a day? I have only run it at 200 so I am curious.
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The most beneficial seemed to be with higher doses, so when I hammered it up front with 2mg and then did 500mcg daily and 1mg daily. Most notable was a reduction in inflammation that was more pronounced at higher doses.

I would say this drug falls into the more is better category from what I've seen. Im sure theres diminishing returns but I don't know where the diminishing returns start at tho. I mean no 1 can afford 2mg per day for a extended time so idk how to draw the line. I have enough to do 2mg a day for about 10 days but I don't think it's going to be better then a lesser dose for 4-6 weeks or something like that.

Tough one to call
 
MrKleen73 said:
Thanks, I have a couple of vials and plan on reconstituting one today after my ART session. I just have to get the wife on board to do the injections. I can't reach back there. She won't be happy but I am sure she will do it for me.
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I got a few extra bottles of tb+bpc, if you need them hit me up I can send you 2.

Edit, I'm saying IL just give you 2 bottles, I'm not trying to sell you nothing. I get lots 2 or 3 free products each month and if I got something on hand that someone ever needs in a pinch feel free to ask.

That goes for anyone who's a regular in my threads, I'm not really looking to get rid of anything. But if someone ever needs some bpc or tb, or a ai/serm asap and I have some on hand IL send it if your in the US. If any of you get in a pinch shoot me a msg to at least see if I have the product on hand.

If anyone has suggestions of what I should stock up on from the research site let me know.
 
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Smont said:
I got a few extra bottles of tb+bpc, if you need them hit me up I can send you 2.

Edit, I'm saying IL just give you 2 bottles, I'm not trying to sell you nothing. I get lots 2 or 3 free products each month and if I got something on hand that someone ever needs in a pinch feel free to ask.

That goes for anyone who's a regular in my threads, I'm not really looking to get rid of anything. But if someone ever needs some bpc or tb, or a ai/serm asap and I have some on hand IL send it if your in the US. If any of you get in a pinch shoot me a msg to at least see if I have the product on hand.

If anyone has suggestions of what I should stock up on from the research site let me know.
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Trenbolone acetate..oh wait...that's not on thar website..damn
 
Bros, anyone ITT experimented with epitalon for sleep and inflammation/pain benefits, or DSIP for sleep? Got some shoulder osteoarthritis going on, and rotator cuff soft tissue aches. Already have a stockpile of BPC and TB, topical curcumin etc etc, just needing something to help with sleep.
 
Nac said:
Bros, anyone ITT experimented with epitalon for sleep and inflammation/pain benefits, or DSIP for sleep? Got some shoulder osteoarthritis going on, and rotator cuff soft tissue aches. Already have a stockpile of BPC and TB, topical curcumin etc etc, just needing something to help with sleep.
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I don’t have any issues like that, but my mother in law uses a lot of a CBD rub she homebrews on her bad hip - especially before bed. And my own mother was taking Tylenol before bed for multiple years to prevent waking from shoulder pain, until the same MIL got my mom to try some oral CBD before bed. Now she sleeps even better and her doctor is happy because her liver damage from the Tylenol is improving.
 
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