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You may have mentioned this, but where’d you get your Epistane? It was one of my favorite things I’ve run id like to try it again sometime.

also random question maybe @Smont or @Hyde may know, finally switching from UGL to an RX for test, but the delivery was left outside in the low 30s for 1.5 days because I was out of town lol - I know the vial says store above 68F but that wasn’t super long and it never actually got to freezing. Doesn’t appear to have fallen out or anything. Also hoping this helps some of the acne I’m getting.
 
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I just like to talk about food 🤷‍♂️



^Great movie



I can totally appreciate this. Nandrolone for me is basically saying “I don’t really care about my sex life for now”. Even if I take a bunch of mast, it’s not going to be as good, plain & simple.



^Great candy. Not like in a quality way, I just like chocolate orange flavor.
I also like talking about food and ya, definitely a great movie.

For nandrolone (deca/npp) it doesn't give me ed, nothing does really. But it definitely lowers libido a little so that I want it less often. Like, I still can perform and want it, but not as much. So for the mental part of it I'd rather just start the npp after that day.
 
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You may have mentioned this, but where’d you get your Epistane? It was one of my favorite things I’ve run id like to try it again sometime.

also random question maybe @Smont or @Hyde may know, finally switching from UGL to an RX for test, but the delivery was left outside in the low 30s for 1.5 days because I was out of town lol - I know the vial says store above 68F but that wasn’t super long and it never actually got to freezing. Doesn’t appear to have fallen out or anything. Also hoping this helps some of the acne I’m getting.
Got it from a member here. It was from his stash and not a recent purchase I believe. I actually don't see epistane around very often
 
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also random question maybe @Smont or @Hyde may know, finally switching from UGL to an RX for test, but the delivery was left outside in the low 30s for 1.5 days because I was out of town lol - I know the vial says store above 68F but that wasn’t super long and it never actually got to freezing. Doesn’t appear to have fallen out or anything. Also hoping this helps some of the acne I’m getting.
If it’s not crashed, it will be fine.

I also like talking about food and ya, definitely a great movie.

For nandrolone (deca/npp) it doesn't give me ed, nothing does really. But it definitely lowers libido a little so that I want it less often. Like, I still can perform and want it, but not as much. So for the mental part of it I'd rather just start the npp after that day.
It will give me ED is DHT isn’t kept way higher, but even then when it all works great it just mentally doesn’t really matter very much. I’m just trying to do my husbandly duties and don’t really enjoy finishing the same even. It’s really more like apathy towards sex, is what it is.

I guess I'm not big into fruit flavors with chocolate. I like chocolate with nuts (no homo) I love mint chocolate and peanut butter chocolate. Chocolate with banana is good (no homo x2). But not a fan of berries and Citrus fruits with chocolate
Yeah I would be down for all of those. I basically go for chocolate + anything.

Maybe not with ham though.
 
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Got it from a member here. It was from his stash and not a recent purchase I believe. I actually don't see epistane around very often
I figured as much, I think they still sell it in the UK maybe? Not sure if it still makes it through customs though.
 
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There’s a guy I see on TikTok (I know lol) he’s running deca only at 1g/week and he’s loving it without any testosterone at all, basically getting all the good and none of the bad between both compounds. Not sure how it affects his bloodwork, he claims no issues.
 
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If it’s not crashed, it will be fine.



It will give me ED is DHT isn’t kept way higher, but even then when it all works great it just mentally doesn’t really matter very much. I’m just trying to do my husbandly duties and don’t really enjoy finishing the same even. It’s really more like apathy towards sex, is what it is.



Yeah I would be down for all of those. I basically go for chocolate + anything.

Maybe not with ham though.
I been known to go after some big chocolate hams every once in a while 🤷‍♂️
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There’s a guy I see on TikTok (I know lol) he’s running deca only at 1g/week and he’s loving it without any testosterone at all, basically getting all the good and none of the bad between both compounds. Not sure how it affects his bloodwork, he claims no issues.
Bloodwork on deca only typically looks worse then test only. I know a few ppl who get no bad sides on deca only, fully functional dong. But they still have very little desire to actually use it.
 
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I been known to go after some big chocolate hams every once in a while 🤷‍♂️View attachment 230075
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Bloodwork on deca only typically looks worse then test only. I know a few ppl who get no bad sides on deca only, fully functional dong. But they still have very little desire to actually use it.
Yeah poor lipids still, high bp still, no real sex drive. You don’t get the strength, body hair, hairloss that test gives, just the muscles.

Low/no estradiol also means faster brain plaque buildup.
 
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I been known to go after some big chocolate hams every once in a while 🤷‍♂️View attachment 230075
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Bloodwork on deca only typically looks worse then test only. I know a few ppl who get no bad sides on deca only, fully functional dong. But they still have very little desire to actually use it.
Yeah poor lipids still, high bp still, no real sex drive. You don’t get the strength, body hair, hairloss that test gives, just the muscles.

Low/no estradiol also means faster brain plaque buildup.
 

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I could go for a chocolate ham right now ateast 80% lean tho lol 😂
 
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To an out of control libido or meh on banging Asian chicks lol
To dirty massage parlors. I'm pretty much always in the mood, but the thought of getting a happy ending or whatever at a massage parlor wold make me feel like I'm paying a hooker. I got a firm policy on not paying for stuff like that because there's always a girl that wants to do it for free.

I don't mind Asians, I perfer Latinas ans light skin mixed chicks. But even tho I'd say those are my types, I don't have a not my type I guess. I'm pretty open minded. As long as it's a female and not super annoying I'm in
 

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To dirty massage parlors. I'm pretty much always in the mood, but the thought of getting a happy ending or whatever at a massage parlor wold make me feel like I'm paying a hooker. I got a firm policy on not paying for stuff like that because there's always a girl that wants to do it for free.

I don't mind Asians, I perfer Latinas ans light skin mixed chicks. But even tho I'd say those are my types, I don't have a not my type I guess. I'm pretty open minded. As long as it's a female and not super annoying I'm in
Yea I have a policy about that too...back I'm the day nailed a high priced escort in Salt Lake city ( rather she nailed me) but I didn't pay for it, my boy who I was with did, let's just say he had plenty of cash to burn. Plenty of rich Mormon kids who were hooked on oxys ( and no it wasn't anadrol )
 

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I know Rick James said cocaine is a helluva drug but so is anadrol down another 2 pounds (222.5) bit my strength is going up..when people say cal in v cal out anadrol says hold my protein shake.
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Ok so I opened my ****. I'm going to get more stuff in a few weeks but to get started I have
Test e 300 x2
Eq 300 x2
Npp 100x2
Anadrol 50mg x100
Epistane 10mg x90 and about 10x 15mg caps.

Few bottles of igf des and lr3

Waiting on 600mg/ml carnatine
More pins and slin pins.

I found a few new 3ml syringes and 12x 25g pins and 10 slin pins so I can get started with the test or eq today or tomorrow.

Will start the npp after the 19th

Working on the training tweaks right now
 
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That’s exciting man, good luck on everything - I hope this is an awesome cycle for you! It’s not really that risky either. If EQ doesn’t cover estrogen, you can always add some test or even DHEA to raise it very quickly, and if NPP doesn’t pan out it’s gone in 4 days basically. So you should be able to tweak whatever as you go well enough.
 
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That’s exciting man, good luck on everything - I hope this is an awesome cycle for you! It’s not really that risky either. If EQ doesn’t cover estrogen, you can always add some test or even DHEA to raise it very quickly, and if NPP doesn’t pan out it’s gone in 4 days basically. So you should be able to tweak whatever as you go well enough.
Basically if the plan doesn't work, we just go 450/600 or 600/600 test and eq. The 600/600 is significantly more then any injectables I ran last year. I'm also gonna order more eq, Mast or Primo and some tren ace. I have bottles of injectable lgd. One way or another IL build the dose up fairly high with mostly lower risk drugs.

I'm still contemplating picking up gh if I don't get a significant boost from the igf variants
 

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Ok so I opened my ****. I'm going to get more stuff in a few weeks but to get started I have
Test e 300 x2
Eq 300 x2
Npp 100x2
Anadrol 50mg x100
Epistane 10mg x90 and about 10x 15mg caps.

Few bottles of igf des and lr3

Waiting on 600mg/ml carnatine
More pins and slin pins.

I found a few new 3ml syringes and 12x 25g pins and 10 slin pins so I can get started with the test or eq today or tomorrow.

Will start the npp after the 19th

Working on the training tweaks right now
So apparently there wasn't a bomb I'm the box so that's good. Does your boy home brew the test at 300 or is it ugl? If it is what lab ( if you don't mind answering, I not it's cool )
 

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Basically if the plan doesn't work, we just go 450/600 or 600/600 test and eq. The 600/600 is significantly more then any injectables I ran last year. I'm also gonna order more eq, Mast or Primo and some tren ace. I have bottles of injectable lgd. One way or another IL build the dose up fairly high with mostly lower risk drugs.

I'm still contemplating picking up gh if I don't get a significant boost from the igf variants
Dude i can't tell you how much I recommend you try gh. Obviously I always go to you when I have questions or need advice but if there is one time that I want you take it from me ( no homo) it's this time. If you're getting the peptides from rep pay then obviously get them but if you have the cash get rye growth.
 

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That’s exciting man, good luck on everything - I hope this is an awesome cycle for you! It’s not really that risky either. If EQ doesn’t cover estrogen, you can always add some test or even DHEA to raise it very quickly, and if NPP doesn’t pan out it’s gone in 4 days basically. So you should be able to tweak whatever as you go well enough.
@Hyde Does eq have some sort of aromatase inhibition Scott McNally and the guys were debating that on the blood, sweat, and gear podcast. A member asked if eq acted like mast and primo in that regard and all three said that it didn't. There wasn't enough evidence for them to conclude that. Was wondering what you thought after I read this post. I'm running eq now (300 week, starting week 3 tomorrow) then will bump to 600 next week with test at 750 and mast at 300. Eventually mast will go to 600 when I add tren ace
 
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@Hyde Does eq have some sort of aromatase inhibition Scott McNally and the guys were debating that on the blood, sweat, and gear podcast. A member asked if eq acted like mast and primo in that regard and all three said that it didn't. There wasn't enough evidence for them to conclude that. Was wondering what you thought after I read this post. I'm running eq now (300 week, starting week 3 tomorrow) then will bump to 600 next week with test at 750 and mast at 300. Eventually mast will go to 600 when I add tren ace
I can't say this for certain, but it seems like it inhibits e2 for some ppl. There are definitely some ppl that can't run eq higher then test. But there's also others who don't seem to get that anti e effect.

I've always used more or equal test in the past
 
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@Hyde Does eq have some sort of aromatase inhibition Scott McNally and the guys were debating that on the blood, sweat, and gear podcast. A member asked if eq acted like mast and primo in that regard and all three said that it didn't. There wasn't enough evidence for them to conclude that. Was wondering what you thought after I read this post. I'm running eq now (300 week, starting week 3 tomorrow) then will bump to 600 next week with test at 750 and mast at 300. Eventually mast will go to 600 when I add tren ace
Based on other people’s reports, I would say it depends on the individual.

I tried running 120mg EACH of test e and EQ/wk on a cruise, and while I had some great gym sessions, I had issues with it aggravating my gyno that I needed a high dose of DIM to manage. And then after about 6 weeks my joints started getting dry and popping. When I pulled bloods after 8 weeks, estradiol was tanked and my lipids were crap because of it (despite being on a decent diet and cutting 15lbs and coming off blast, all things that typically improve lipids). My blood was already getting thicker at those baby doses, so I cut it out and tossed it.

The theory I’ve heard that makes the most sense is that EQ hogs up the aromatase enzyme more than test, and it converts to estrogen besides estradiol. So overall you still estrogen out of it, but not as much as testosterone, and no estradiol (the one that is most important for cardiovascular, brain, and libido health).

You just have to try it and see what works for you (like most AAS). I have firsthand heard multiple people have lasting anxiety issues from it, same as tren. Some people say they feel just awesome on it and it’s their favorite off-season compound besides test. I’d like to try it with a higher dose of test some day, like 500/300, but I have a lot of Masteron so I’m in no rush.
 

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Based on other people’s reports, I would say it depends on the individual.

I tried running 120mg EACH of test e and EQ/wk on a cruise, and while I had some great gym sessions, I had issues with it aggravating my gyno that I needed a high dose of DIM to manage. And then after about 6 weeks my joints started getting dry and popping. When I pulled bloods after 8 weeks, estradiol was tanked and my lipids were crap because of it (despite being on a decent diet and cutting 15lbs and coming off blast, all things that typically improve lipids). My blood was already getting thicker at those baby doses, so I cut it out and tossed it.

The theory I’ve heard that makes the most sense is that EQ hogs up the aromatase enzyme more than test, and it converts to estrogen besides estradiol. So overall you still estrogen out of it, but not as much as testosterone, and no estradiol (the one that is most important for cardiovascular, brain, and libido health).

You just have to try it and see what works for you (like most AAS). I have firsthand heard multiple people have lasting anxiety issues from it, same as tren. Some people say they feel just awesome on it and it’s their favorite off-season compound besides test. I’d like to try it with a higher dose of test some day, like 500/300, but I have a lot of Masteron so I’m in no rush.
Yea I've heard about the anxiety thing as well with eq but then big Paul and Dave Crossland talk about how nandrolone can give people really bad anxiety. I've never gotten it from deca ( atleast no more than I already have naturally ) so I'm hoping I don't get it from eq either when I bump the dose up to 600 on week 4
 
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Yea I've heard about the anxiety thing as well with eq but then big Paul and Dave Crossland talk about how nandrolone can give people really bad anxiety. I've never gotten it from deca ( atleast no more than I already have naturally ) so I'm hoping I don't get it from eq either when I bump the dose up to 600 on week 4
If your bp gets too high on anything, that can also raise anxiety truly. And there are plenty of guys who don’t stay on top of BP, and EQ especially is going to build viscosity up over months. So I wonder how many of those guys just had bp rising unmanaged as doses climbed and blood thickened and they weren’t using their cuff or donating or pulling a CBC to watch anything. Operator error, essentially.
 

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If your bp gets too high on anything, that can also raise anxiety truly. And there are plenty of guys who don’t stay on top of BP, and EQ especially is going to build viscosity up over months. So I wonder how many of those guys just had bp rising unmanaged as doses climbed and blood thickened and they weren’t using their cuff or donating or pulling a CBC to watch anything. Operator error, essentially.
I could totally see that. When you start to sweat way more often and your breathing becomes more labored your that can make your mind naturally go to an anxiety induced state which makes you sweat more and breathe even harder and that cycle goes on and on until a panic attack eventual may happen
 

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Obviously being on both eq and drol right now my rbc is shooting way up. These last 3 days I've been sweating a lot more in the gym but my endurance has gone way up as well. 15-20 rep squats feel like 12-15 reps when I was on cruise
 
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Obviously being on both eq and drol right now my rbc is shooting way up. These last 3 days I've been sweating a lot more in the gym but my endurance has gone way up as well. 15-20 rep squats feel like 12-15 reps when I was on cruise
Do you have bloodwork showing rbc shooting up? I've never seen my rbc change any more with anadrol or eq vs. Any other steroids. Yes they typically do. But you just can't assume something is automatically happening
 

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Do you have bloodwork showing rbc shooting up? I've never seen my rbc change any more with anadrol or eq vs. Any other steroids. Yes they typically do. But you just can't assume something is automatically happening
Good point and no I don't have the bloodwork. Do orals affect your appetite @Smont ? I didn't think they did for me but these last 2 days I've had none. Obviously I've gotten all my meais in but it's been more of a chore than its been in a long time. The only thing I can chalk is up to is the drol. I'm going on week 3 now and I haven't changed anything.
 
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Good point and no I don't have the bloodwork. Do orals affect your appetite @Smont ? I didn't think they did for me but these last 2 days I've had none. Obviously I've gotten all my meais in but it's been more of a chore than its been in a long time. The only thing I can chalk is up to is the drol. I'm going on week 3 now and I haven't changed anything.
In the past they never did, none of them. But this past October I do think winni was starting to the week of the comp, but it could also have been nerves. As of right now I'm almost 3 weeks on epistane if I'm not mistaken and appetite is good. Anadrol always made me hungry, so did SD oddly enough. On either if those I could easily gain 1lb per DAY! That's actually what usually happens when I take them. Buy ots not quality weight. I'm basically just pounding food and getting water and fuel storage and it dissappear post cycle. If I take SD and go low carb or low calories then I feel crappy.

These are past experiences. I'm getting older so I'm trying to treat this upcoming BLAST like it's my first and I wanna have precautionary stuff in place and be prepared to find out new stuff that may have changed over the years.
 
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Decided to stick out the ppl with some tweaks. Honestly my training and exercises don't ever change dramatically, it's like 1 never-ending program that gets tweaked a lot but I rarely get too far from the norm. It's almost always a ppl variation or some kind of full body or power day

Pull day
Various grip chins for sets of 10-15+ (pr goal BW×21) reps
Chest supported db row sets of 8-10
Duel cable pull down sets of 8-10
RDL's sets of 8-10
Laying ham curl 8-10
Hammer curls 8-10
Db curls 10-15+

Push day
Low incline bench 3-5 with strip sets
Machine chest press 8-10
Db fly 10-12
Db cgb 12-15
Db krushers 12-15
Cable pressdown 8-10
Dips to failure

Legs and side delts

Abductors 15-20
Adductors 15-20
Squat 6-8
Side laterals 12-15
Wide leg press 12-15
Further back laterals 12-15
Superset*
*Bulgarian split squats 10-12
*Db shoulder press 10-12
Leg ext 15-20

Rest and repeat or rest then a power day then rest and repeat.

There's will always be 4 to 5 workouts per week and I'm gonna start morning steady state cardio this week and then next week add 2 boxing cardio workouts. Nothing crazy, shadow boxing and heavy bag stuff. Maybe some biking or a step mill between rounds to keep moving.
 
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A ugl is just someone that home brews and slaps a logo on it, there are some ugl that have actual small labs but there far and few. All the common ugl you see are made in a apartment somewhere
 

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A ugl is just someone that home brews and slaps a logo on it, there are some ugl that have actual small labs but there far and few. All the common ugl you see are made in a apartment somewhere
Yea i knew that I was asking did your boy brew it or is it a " name brand " ugl like geneza or alpha pharma
 

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In the past they never did, none of them. But this past October I do think winni was starting to the week of the comp, but it could also have been nerves. As of right now I'm almost 3 weeks on epistane if I'm not mistaken and appetite is good. Anadrol always made me hungry, so did SD oddly enough. On either if those I could easily gain 1lb per DAY! That's actually what usually happens when I take them. Buy ots not quality weight. I'm basically just pounding food and getting water and fuel storage and it dissappear post cycle. If I take SD and go low carb or low calories then I feel crappy.

These are past experiences. I'm getting older so I'm trying to treat this upcoming BLAST like it's my first and I wanna have precautionary stuff in place and be prepared to find out new stuff that may have changed over the years.
This is the first time I've ever had appetite issues from orals..but like you said we're older. I wanted to try 100 mg on the last week just to see what it's like but what's the point if it's gonna be miserable to eat
 
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I'm really contemplating a few batches of basic stuff when my boy comes to visit for the summer. Mostly test, eq and mast and maybe a sarm combo. All the things I normally use and blast my ballz off lol
 

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I'm really contemplating a few batches of basic stuff when my boy comes to visit for the summer. Mostly test, eq and mast and maybe a sarm combo. All the things I normally use and blast my ballz off lol
I keep trying go blast my balls off but they're still there. I guess that means I'm not doing enough and I'll have to do more next time. Oh well...
 

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Random question...could you run injectable carnatine year round? I mean you can run the oral year round so I don't see why you couldn't with injectable unless your body becomes accustomed to it and it loses its effectiveness.
 
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Random question...could you run injectable carnatine year round? I mean you can run the oral year round so I don't see why you couldn't with injectable unless your body becomes accustomed to it and it loses its effectiveness.
Yes, it’s safe as an injectable (besides all the extra pins technically making infection a greater risk).
 
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