Tr3sting the Limits

SpartaNutrition said:
You're getting:

255mg of 1-Andro
255mg of 4-Andro
450mg of Epiandro

Then you factor in Cyclosome Delivery - the most bioavailable delivery tech on the market.

Ease and gains.

Pricing wise, if you were to compare with BSL you'd have to spend at the least $300. With Primeval, you'd be spending $200+.

Cerberus V2 is $95.
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Its legit! If I had known the v2 was gonna be out that soon, I would've ran it instead of v1. Solid doses of each.
 
Studhorse said:
Dam.... If i sent you a Di ck suck by mail would you send me some Sh it?
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Lmfao
Studhorse said:
You are on your way to greatness!!!
Note: might want to watch the leg curls when you get to the 5reps round. Hate to see you blow a hammy! might keep that at no less than 7-8reps. Just increase the weight as needed.
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Thanks bro. I'm gonna be careful on them. I can do the curls no problem though.
Studhorse said:
Its because you are growing brother! make sure you post a before and after pic when finish. a picture is worth a thousand words and might get my wife horny!
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Lol you or the wife?
 
sespress said:
You know I was interested in that stuff. Should have bought it when I read your first post Brandinooooo. Also dude your mailbox is full.

And booneman you seem to have the info, do you have suggestions on a product like it with similar ingredients?
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V2 baby! All we did was upgrade it to make it better than ever and more readily absorbable.
 
mmorso said:
Man this HST sounds brutal. Brandinooooo did you ever post your precycle 1RMs? Also, when are you going to test them? When's the HST over?
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Its really not that bad. The part I like about it the most is its 3 days a week, and if you log it correctly and keep metal or logged tracking of your diet and sleep you know when you are over training and time to start your de-condition.
If I have to guess I have only completed the whole 8 weeks 2 to 3 times out of about 16.

Now with the added supplemental goodies who knows?
 
Studhorse said:
Its really not that bad. The part I like about it the most is its 3 days a week, and if you log it correctly and keep metal or logged tracking of your diet and sleep you know when you are over training and time to start your de-condition.
If I have to guess I have only completed the whole 8 weeks 2 to 3 times out of about 16.

Now with the added supplemental goodies who knows?
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Lol you make it sound easy. Whole body workout 3 times a week basically to failure? Pffft...cake.

Sh!t cake lol.
 
Brandinooooo said:
No I didn't post them. I used a calculator for them and I think it was low. Tomorrow I'm doing 100% at 15 reps.
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Yeah bro I'm interested to see where your lifts are at after this cycle.. I wish I had heard about HST before I ran my LGD cycle.
 
I'm doing my 85% at 15 reps tomorrow. I spent a week getting my actual 15, 10 and 5 rep maxes, so I should be able to get an idea of increases when I'm done. I already "feel" bigger, and can see some changes in upper chest development. Hardest part for me was the 3 days a week. I'm normally in the gym 6 days a week, but did actually take 2 days off this week, so I only cheated a little.
 
Brandinooooo said:
Lol you make it sound easy. Whole body workout 3 times a week basically to failure? Pffft...cake.

Sh!t cake lol.
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Dont you build to failure (or a rep max out/PR test) at the end of each block/phase?

Hancock's program is definitely well thought out but damn I just cant stand linear periodisation.
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Dont you build to failure (or a rep max out) at the end of each block/phase?

Hancock's program is definitely well thought out but damn I just cant stand linear periodisation.
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Yeah. First week you do 15reps 1 set of your 75% then 80 then 85. 2nd week 90 then 95 then 100% 1rm. Which is tomorrow for me. Next week is 2 sets 15 rep 75 then 80 and so on. Studhorse can elaborate.
 
Brandinooooo said:
Yeah. First week you do 15reps 1 set of your 75% then 80 then 85. 2nd week 90 then 95 then 100% 1rm. Which is tomorrow for me. Next week is 2 sets 15 rep 75 then 80 and so on. Studhorse can elaborate.
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Hm, yeah that sounds right but I thought after 3 weeks of 15rm you went to 10rm then 5rm. Or maybe there are a number of different templates for structuring the periodisation. Sounds like youre periodising volume *shrug*
 
SFreed said:
I'm doing my 85% at 15 reps tomorrow. I spent a week getting my actual 15, 10 and 5 rep maxes, so I should be able to get an idea of increases when I'm done. I already "feel" bigger, and can see some changes in upper chest development. Hardest part for me was the 3 days a week. I'm normally in the gym 6 days a week, but did actually take 2 days off this week, so I only cheated a little.
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Stay on course brother. If you cant stand it and have to go to the gym do 1/2 the HST and the other 1/2 the next day. I have done that more than once because I got called out a the gym.
 
SFreed said:
I'm doing my 85% at 15 reps tomorrow. I spent a week getting my actual 15, 10 and 5 rep maxes, so I should be able to get an idea of increases when I'm done. I already "feel" bigger, and can see some changes in upper chest development. Hardest part for me was the 3 days a week. I'm normally in the gym 6 days a week, but did actually take 2 days off this week, so I only cheated a little.
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Lol awesome bro. The 95% beat my ass.
 
SFreed said:
I'm doing my 85% at 15 reps tomorrow. I spent a week getting my actual 15, 10 and 5 rep maxes, so I should be able to get an idea of increases when I'm done. I already "feel" bigger, and can see some changes in upper chest development. Hardest part for me was the 3 days a week. I'm normally in the gym 6 days a week, but did actually take 2 days off this week, so I only cheated a little.
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Ya it takes awhile to set your percentages. I keep all my logs so I can go back and look where I was at when I set-up my next one. that way I'm a little closer when I start. there is still times when I do a certain lift for 15 reps @ 75% and do like 25reps. LOL
My wife tried to toss them the other day. the folder is like 5" thick and I have a page per week!
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Hm, yeah that sounds right but I thought after 3 weeks of 15rm you went to 10rm then 5rm. Or maybe there are a number of different templates for structuring the periodisation. Sounds like youre periodising volume *shrug*
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the one I have always used it in a nut shell:
2 weeks of 1 x 15
2weeks of 2 x10
2 weeks of 3 x 5
1 week negatives
1 week drop sets.
 
Studhorse said:
the one I have always used it in a nut shell:
2 weeks of 1 x 15
2weeks of 2 x10
2 weeks of 3 x 5
1 week negatives
1 week drop sets.
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Ah yeah thats the one. You ramp toward the 6th workout of each 2wk block, where you aim to beat your previous PR for that #rm?
 
Brandinooooo said:
Thanks. I forgot exactly what the schedule was.
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sadly it is ingrained in my mind. Thats why I will pass on the HST a couple of times a year. and do a 4 day split or something. Body is to beat up for any German or Dorian Yates stuff any more.

I do a retired pro bodybuilding workout that I like some times. Its is pretty good if you have worn out joints.
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Ah yeah thats the one. You ramp toward the 6th workout of each 2wk block, where you aim to beat your previous PR for that #rm?
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Yes Its based off 1RM 75%,80%,85%,90%,95%,100% really no such thing unless you have a partner But I try, no need to get overly obsessed over it.
 
Brandinooooo said:
Basically. I know next week I'll destroy my starting 1rm. But I think the calculator lowballed a little. Either way, I'm stronger now than when I started.

Start this program!
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That's pretty good brother! not really designed for strength just building muscle. you will add a little strength tho!
 
Brandinooooo said:
Basically. I know next week I'll destroy my starting 1rm. But I think the calculator lowballed a little. Either way, I'm stronger now than when I started.

Start this program!
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Studhorse said:
the one I have always used it in a nut shell:
2 weeks of 1 x 15
2weeks of 2 x10
2 weeks of 3 x 5
1 week negatives
1 week drop sets.
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I like the way this looks.
 
Studhorse said:
Oh have you already started a new workout or are you finishing the same one?
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No I've been doing the same routine but have decreased the volume a little... I was burnt after a long ass cycle... I'm gonna start HST after thanksgiving. It'll be awesome
 
Im back in here, at work, but here. I have to say, all this talk is so far beyond my intelligence that Im just going to smile and nod my head like I know something. Studhorse, Dont be jealous that I get care packages, and dont worry yourself with what I did to earn it either
 
FireTitan said:
Im back in here, at work, but here. I have to say, all this talk is so far beyond my intelligence that Im just going to smile and nod my head like I know something. Studhorse, Dont be jealous that I get care packages, and dont worry yourself with what I did to earn it either
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Skillz to pay the billz??
 
FireTitan said:
Im back in here, at work, but here. I have to say, all this talk is so far beyond my intelligence that Im just going to smile and nod my head like I know something. Studhorse, Dont be jealous that I get care packages, and dont worry yourself with what I did to earn it either
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Yeah it's super smart sh1t... we need to derail: shall we all vote in talking about banging fat chicks again? All in favor post aye....
 
mmorso said:
No I've been doing the same routine but have decreased the volume a little... I was burnt after a long ass cycle... I'm gonna start HST after thanksgiving. It'll be awesome
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Sounds good. Make sure you take at least 7 days off before you begin your HST.
 
mmorso said:
Oh man that'll work perfectly!! I'll be taking a week vacay for thanksgiving
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There you go. Enjoy the vacation knowing you are preparing to get better. Win win. Hammer the meat 1st and force down the dessert.
 
Studhorse said:
There you go. Enjoy the vacation knowing you are preparing to get better. Win win. Hammer the meat 1st and force down the dessert.
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Yeah I was thinking that... I hate taking a week off... hate it. So this will be a perfect. I gotta study up on it and read those emails you sent me a few weeks ago.

I'll be like ChocolateClen getting all frustrated at the library...
 
mmorso said:
Yeah I was thinking that... I hate taking a week off... hate it. So this will be a perfect. I gotta study up on it and read those emails you sent me a few weeks ago.

I'll be like ChocolateClen getting all frustrated at the library...
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You got my personal contact info. Use it if needed. Love helping my AM brothers.
 
Fat chicks: I had more than I should and feel kind of bad. About 2 hrs. Before the bar gets ready to close and before the lights go on I use to set up plan B with the cutest chubby chick just in case.
There kick off.
 
mmorso said:
Yeah it's super smart sh1t... we need to derail: shall we all vote in talking about banging fat chicks again? All in favor post aye....
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Did somebody say Fat chicks? In like Bill Clinton !
 
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