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ax1 said:Impressive. Most impressive. Obi-Wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.
Ax....you have to know he is a fraud right?
ax1 said:Impressive. Most impressive. Obi-Wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.
Ax....you have to know he is a fraud right?
ax1 said:Not at all, Ive been listening to him for 3 years and most of what he has stated has been accurate and true. Everything from the installation of the police state in America, how they were going to start taking out every country in the middle east one by one for starters.
Also, Alex Jones isnt all about Alex Jones, the highlight of his programing are all his guests, economists, military, policeman (such from the Oklahoma City bombing that have been blacked out from mainstream media,) various individuals with past political powers (Charlotte Iserbyt head of education policy under Reagan for example) etc....I like to listen to his guests more than his him.
I really wish I started following back in 2001 when there were people on campus I used to look down on and call "conspiracy theorists" were trying to tell me they are about to false flag attack America before the end of the year (Alex Jones warned in July of 01).
I can go forever on this if you would like, but Im not exactly about myself proving Alex Jones is correct, Id rather keep the focus on the material and not the person.
If there is some grand conspiracy, how could the people in power let him be if he was right so often? Could he be one of them? :lol:
Also, your 9/11 material (no disrespect) has been debunked several times. I know several who were there and I trust there accounts of what they saw. To assume this was s e grand conspiracy is sad. I will acknowledge that the US government could have known a great deal of what was going to happen I. Advance (like Pearl Harbor) but to assume they planned it and carried it out is ridiculous.
Also, your 9/11 material (no disrespect) has been debunked several times.
ax1 said:You know I had a dream a while back that we went through some of specific material and evidence before, What a weirdo I am having dreams of board members, lol
Ok great, we wont be broken records today,
So what do you think of the Pharmaceutical industry (since my last thread post was on the topic)?
Do you you think that some of those on top are prioritizing sales over people? Do you think people are being over-medicated especially when it comes to mental health? Do you think there is an issue with doctors these days that there is an increase in prioritizing treating specific diseases directly rather investigating underlying causes (one example, how to deal with sadness rather than prescribing a mind altering drug) and focusing on preventative treatments?
ax1 - thanks for reposting that. it is def interesting material, but alot less crazy than i remember..
some of the questions trying to be raised seem a little far fetched - or rather that there is a simple explanation and they are trying to push it into something far more complicated..
ex - they ask why the inside of an ambulance is torched and the outside is virtually unscathed - well judging by the photo i would say that a fire started inside the vehicle from falling debris and the fire was extinguished before it consumed the entire thing...
ax1 - thanks for reposting that. it is def interesting material, but alot less crazy than i remember..
some of the questions trying to be raised seem a little far fetched - or rather that there is a simple explanation and they are trying to push it into something far more complicated..
ex - they ask why the inside of an ambulance is torched and the outside is virtually unscathed - well judging by the photo i would say that a fire started inside the vehicle from falling debris and the fire was extinguished before it consumed the entire thing...
ohhh yes - that was a big one. the cars on FDR. i think thats what initially sparked my interest. i really dont know why they would simply haul the cars out there and leave them. then again - its hard to say.
as far as less impact than the superdome - i wasnt at all aware of that. just another element that makes this event even more unclear/suspicious.. solid post btw
reps...i cleared my inbox too haha
ohhh yes - that was a big one. the cars on FDR. i think thats what initially sparked my interest. i really dont know why they would simply haul the cars out there and leave them. then again - its hard to say.
as far as less impact than the superdome - i wasnt at all aware of that. just another element that makes this event even more unclear/suspicious.. solid post btw
reps...i cleared my inbox too haha
did you see the report about how bin laden apparently told his kids to live in the west and get a good education, not pursue jihad.
just curious ax, what exactly do you think happened on 9/11?
False flag attack, not the act of some cavemen.
carried out by our government? What about the planes and passengers? Please dont tell me you are on the hologram kick as well?
No, I dont blame the goverment just a small inner circle.
Yes it involved at least 2 planes and passengers unfortunatly passed away.
What about the plane that hit the Pentagon? The most survaleanced place on earth but why dont we see a plane hitting it outside of begging for years to have 5 grainy frames images released of the event, but they want to show us the WTC strike over and over again.
And who might be this inner circle?
Who were the terrorists? 2 planes?
I am not sure what the issue with the pentagon is.....and i know that many insist it was a missile, but for all of those folks who insist on that, there is an equal amount who saw the plane debris.
I am not sure what the issue with the pentagon is.....and i know that many insist it was a missile, but for all of those folks who insist on that, there is an equal amount who saw the plane debris.
Just to give you more info...Ive posted this material before but I dont think you have time to read 1,000+ posts, lol
In my opinion, its best to check out the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth movement. They doing scientific examinations of the incident, primarily involving building 7. Did you know that NIST (the agency that "investigated" 9-11) stated that there were no explosives found in the WTC rubble, but when the A&E for truth movement asked if they tested for explosives they simply replied, "no."?
Here is the trailer of their recently released documentary, and Ill post the link below to watch the entire documentary for free (2+ hours). Spend a couple of minutes to see the trailer below.
9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out, Trailer; AE911Truth.org, 9/11/11[video=youtube;yIOC1J44RYw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOC1J44RYw[/video]
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And who might be this inner circle?
Who were the terrorists? 2 planes?
I am not sure what the issue with the pentagon is.....and i know that many insist it was a missile, but for all of those folks who insist on that, there is an equal amount who saw the plane debris.
id like to see any shred of evidence that there was plane debris at the pentagon, or shanksville for that matter
who outside of pentagon officials/employees saw the plane debris with any level of detail from anywhere nearby the pentagon?
who outside of pentagon officials/employees saw the plane debris with any level of detail from anywhere nearby the pentagon?
in a quick google search...I typed in plane debris pentagon, and wouldnt you know it....photos
Oh, but I assume to the truther movement its all photo shopped![]()
funny enough, most of those photos from outside the building immediately after it happened show so little debris that a piper cub hitting the pentagon would have left more. Pictures from inside taken a day or two later show more, but a 757 isn't a small plane. Did it vaporize on impact?
Here's one
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where are the plane parts?
anyhow, unlike some others, I don't believe our government was behind it. I do believe they are purposefully withholding details and lying about others. Maybe in the name of national security, maybe in the name of other fears. Like for instance the idea that the planes themselves didn't cause the towers to fall, but that there were explosives/thermite planted. Osama had tried to blow up the towers before, its not exactly crazy to think that operatives of his could have gotten jobs in maintenance on the towers and planted the thermite a day or two before the attack.
do a search on the images, and there are plenty of parts. I will see that while there are images for the pentagon, it is not a great number.
I also agree with you....I dont think it was our government behind it at all. I think we are hiding some things which would show we were completely unprepared or didnt take the threat seriously enough.
anyhow, unlike some others, I don't believe our government was behind it. I do believe they are purposefully withholding details and lying about others. Maybe in the name of national security, maybe in the name of other fears. Like for instance the idea that the planes themselves didn't cause the towers to fall, but that there were explosives/thermite planted. Osama had tried to blow up the towers before, its not exactly crazy to think that operatives of his could have gotten jobs in maintenance on the towers and planted the thermite a day or two before the attack.
| National Guard | $1,262 | $0 | $0 | $4,068 | $0 |
| US Air Force | $9,785 | $4,400 | $4,400 | $23,736 | $0 |
| US Army | $15,600 | $3,500 | $250 | $24,503 | $250 |
| US Coast Guard | $6,002 | $0 | $0 | $3,716 | $0 |
| US Dept of Defense | $27,613 | $2,150 | $0 | $9,527 | $0 |
| US Marine Corps | $1,700 | $250 | $0 | $7,662 | $0 |
| US Military | $200 | $0 | $0 | $2,083 | $0 |
| US Navy | $10,454 | $3,000 | $250 | $20,272 | $500 |
| TOTAL | $72,616 | $13,300 | $4,900 | $95,567 | $750 |
when those tapes aren't released we will
have our answer.
ax1 said:Within 2 hours LA times reported "dead of natural causes" and also stated that they dont know why he died, and the hospital doesnt know but its natural. With Whitney Houston it took 6 days from the medical examiner to report what killed her.
I wouldnt be jumping to the official story, its possible that there was a hit on him due to what he was about to do with that college film to expose Obama's corruption.
like I said...people will question when the tapes don't come out.
did you see 'sheriff joe's investigation of the birth certificate?