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17 Reasons Why A Vote For Mitt Romney Is A Vote For The New World Order
By: The American Dream
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Once again, the Republican Party is being tempted to vote for "the lesser of two evils". A lot of Republicans are actually considering voting for Mitt Romney because they have bought the lie that he has "the best chance" of defeating Barack Obama in 2012. But just because he is the Republican candidate that is most like Barack Obama does not mean that he has the best chance of defeating him. The truth is that no self-respecting Republican should ever vote for Mitt Romney. A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for the New World Order. Romney comes from the financial establishment, he is being showered with money from the financial establishment and he supports all of the goals of the financial establishment. This year, millions upon millions of dollars are being funneled into Romney's campaign and into pro-Romney organizations. The New World Order is literally trying to buy the 2012 election for their dream candidate. Romney would be the ultimate Wall Street puppet, and if you cast a vote for Mitt Romney you are playing right into the hands of the financial elite.
If you do not believe that a vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for the New World Order, just consider Mitt Romney's positions on the issues....
#1 The Federal Reserve
To the financial elite, there is no more important financial institution in the United States than the Federal Reserve, and Mitt Romney is a huge supporter of the Federal Reserve.
During one Republican debate, Romney actually tried to explain to all of us why "Invalid Link Removed".
Not only that, Mitt Romney has stated that he is not really concerned about what is going on over at the Federal Reserve. Mitt Romney has publicly stated that he is "Invalid Link Removed".
That kind of talk is music to the ears of the financial elite.
Also, Invalid Link Removed the reappointment of Ben Bernanke as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve despite his absolutely horrific track record.
#2 Money From The Bankers
Mitt Romney is getting far, far, far more money from Wall Street bankers than any other Republican candidate.
In a recent article entitled "Invalid Link Removed", I detailed how numbers compiled by Invalid Link Removed show that Mitt Romney is getting more money from the employees of the "too big to fail" Wall Street banks than all of the other Republican candidates combined.
The following is an excerpt from that article that shows how much money employees of those banks (and their spouses) gave to various candidates for president during the first 9 months of 2011....
Mitt Romney: $813,300
Barack Obama: $198,874
Tim Pawlenty: $101,515
Rick Perry: $58,900
Jon Huntsman: $28,250
Ron Paul: $13,104
Herman Cain: $2,715
Michelle Bachmann: $1,500
Newt Gingrich: $1,250
Even though Romney's poll numbers have been in the mid to low 20s most of the time, employees of the big Wall Street banks gave him $813,300 during the first 9 months of 2011 and they only gave $105,719 to the rest of the Republican candidates that were still in the race at the end of the third quarter combined.
#3 The Wall Street Bailouts
During the last financial crisis, Mitt Romney was a very Invalid Link Removed of the Wall Street bailouts.
Back in 2009, Romney delivered a speech in which he made Invalid Link Removed about bailing out Wall Street....
"I know we didn’t all agree on TARP. I believe that it was necessary to prevent a cascade of bank collapses. For free markets to work, there has to be a currency and a functioning financial system."
During the Wall Street bailouts, gigantic mountains of money were transferred from the pockets of U.S. taxpayers into the hands of greedy Wall Street bankers.
Wall Street would definitely like to have someone in the White House who will bail them out once again when the next great financial crisis strikes.
#4 Health Care
Republicans are supposed to be against Obamacare, and yet millions upon millions of them plan to vote for someone that came up with the plan that Obamacare was based upon.
Barack Obama has admitted that much of his health care plan came directly from what Mitt Romney did up in Massachusetts. In fact, Invalid Link Removed brought to light some new information about the relationship between Romneycare and Obamacare....
Newly obtained White House records provide fresh details on how senior Obama administration officials used Mitt Romney’s landmark health-care law in Massachusetts as a model for the new federal law, including recruiting some of Romney’s own health care advisers and experts to help craft the act now derided by Republicans as “Obamacare.”
The records, gleaned from White House visitor logs reviewed by NBC News, show that senior White House officials had a dozen meetings in 2009 with three health-care advisers and experts who helped shape the health care reform law signed by Romney in 2006, when the Republican presidential candidate was governor of Massachusetts.
Conservatives all over the country have been loudly denouncing the individual health insurance mandate in Obamacare, but Mitt Romney Invalid Link Removed that the individual health insurance mandate that he signed into law as governor of Massachusetts was based on "conservative principles".The records, gleaned from White House visitor logs reviewed by NBC News, show that senior White House officials had a dozen meetings in 2009 with three health-care advisers and experts who helped shape the health care reform law signed by Romney in 2006, when the Republican presidential candidate was governor of Massachusetts.
So how has Romneycare worked out for residents of Massachusetts?
Well, according to the Daily Caller, health care costs and health insurance premiums Invalid Link Removed....
Since the bill became law, the state’s total direct health-care spending has increased by a remarkable 52 percent. Medicaid spending has gone from less than $6 billion a year to more the $9 billion. Many consumers have seen double-digit percentage increases in their premiums.
That doesn't sound good.
Romney now says that he wants to "repeal" Obamacare, but what he means by repeal may not be what you and I mean by repeal.
Someone should ask Romney what he meant Invalid Link Removed that he wants “to eliminate some of the differences, repeal the bad, and keep the good” in Obamacare.
#5 Free Trade
One of the key goals of the New World Order is to create a one world economic system. That is why so many of our politicians continue to push "free trade" even though tens of thousands of U.S. businesses and millions of U.S. jobs have gone overseas.
Of course Mitt Romney is a huge advocate of the "free trade" agenda.
The following quote comes directly from the Romney campaign website....
Access to foreign markets is crucial to growing our economy. We must reassert American leadership in international negotiations, follow through on commitments we have already made, and push aggressively for advantageous new agreements.
But the results of this "free trade" agenda have been absolutely nightmarish for the United States. According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, America has lost an average of Invalid Link Removed over the last 10 years. During 2010 it got even worse. That year, an average of Invalid Link Removed shut down in the United States.
In all, Invalid Link Removed manufacturing facilities in the United States have permanently closed down since 2001.
Invalid Link Removed is ripping our economy apart a little bit more every day, and if Romney is elected the globalist agenda will only accelerate.
#6 Taxes
The New World Order loves to extract taxes from the American people. It was not a coincidence that the Federal Reserve and the individual income tax came into existence at nearly the exact same time nearly 100 years ago.
During his time as governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney significantly raised taxes. The following is an excerpt Invalid Link Removed....
Mitt Romney's Harvard MBA and gold-plated resume convinced many business leaders he would follow in the tradition of corporate-friendly Republicans when he was elected governor of Massachusetts in 2002.
Within three years, some had a vastly different opinion, after Romney's efforts raised the tax bill on businesses by $300 million
That same article also notes that Romney jacked up "fees and fines" on Massachusetts taxpayers substantially during his tenure as governor....Within three years, some had a vastly different opinion, after Romney's efforts raised the tax bill on businesses by $300 million
Romney and lawmakers also approved hundreds of millions in higher fees and fines during his four years in office.
Many in the Massachusetts business community were quite disgusted with Romney by the end of his term. Peter Nicholas, the chairman of Boston Science Corporation, says that "Invalid Link Removed"
#7 Government Spending
The New World Order loves big government and big government spending.
And let there be no doubt - Mitt Romney is a big spender when it comes to government money.
Government spending in Massachusetts increased significantly under Mitt Romney. This was especially true for the last two budgets passed under Romney. In fiscal year 2006, government spending in Massachusetts increased by Invalid Link Removed. In fiscal year 2007, government spending in Massachusetts increased by a whopping Invalid Link Removed.
#8 Global Warming
It turns out that Mitt Romney is a believer in the theory of man-made global warming. In fact, Al Gore recently praised Mitt Romney on his blog. In a post entitled "Invalid Link Removed", Al Gore lavished the following praise on the former Massachusetts governor....
"While other Republicans are running from the truth, he is sticking to his guns in the face of the anti-science wing of the Republican Party"
Not only that, it is also very important to remember that while Mitt Romney was governor, Massachusetts became Invalid Link Removed to pass a law to regulate carbon emissions.
#9 Cap And Trade
If Mitt Romney becomes president, he is going to cram the radical green agenda right down our throats.
While campaigning for president in 2007, Mitt Romney said that he would fully support a global "cap and trade" carbon tax scheme Invalid Link Removed....
“I support Cap-and-Trade on a global basis but not the USA going alone. I want to do it with other nations involved and on a global scale.”
#10 Illegal Immigration
Mitt Romney is very, very soft on illegal immigration. Back in 2007, Mitt Romney Invalid Link Removed....
“But my view is that those 12 million who've come here illegally should be given the opportunity to sign up to stay here”
Of course that will only encourage millions more to come here illegally, but Mitt Romney does not seem too concerned about that.
#11 Gun Control
One of the key goals of the New World Order is to disarm the American people, and Mitt Romney has been a huge supporter of gun control laws. When he was running for governor in Massachusetts, he made Invalid Link Removed....
"We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts- I support them...I believe they help protect us, and provide for our safety."
#12 Abortion
Mitt Romney has a long record of supporting the population control agenda of the global elite.
He claims that he is "pro-life" now, but Mitt Romney also once claimed that he was more "pro-choice" Invalid Link Removed.
Not only that, Romney once forced Christian hospitals and Massachusetts taxpayers to subsidize abortions in the state of Massachusetts. You can see evidence of this Invalid Link Removed.
If he becomes president, Romney will be just like George W. Bush - a president that gives lip service to the pro-life crowd but that does next to nothing to actually stop abortion.
#13 The Pharmaceutical Industry
Just like the banking industry, the pharmaceutical industry is almost completely dominated by the New World Order. And the Invalid Link Removed has been absolutely Invalid Link Removed on Mitt Romney.
According to the CDC, the percentage of Americans that say that they have taken a prescription drug within the last 30 days has risen to almost Invalid Link Removed.
If Mitt Romney becomes president, it will be a new "golden age" for the pharmaceutical industry and that number will likely go even higher.
#14 The TSA
It recently came out that very elderly women are Invalid Link Removed by TSA agents at U.S. airports, but Mitt Romney continues to fully support the TSA.
So if Romney becomes president we will continue to have to endure incredibly dehumanizing searches before we are allowed on to our flights.
#15 The Homeland Security Apparatus
Mitt Romney has stated repeatedly that he wants to make "homeland security" even stronger.
I have previously written about how Bush and Obama have turned America into Invalid Link Removed where virtually everything we do is watched, monitored, listened to, tracked and recorded in order to keep us all "safe".
Well, Romney believes that all of this is necessary as part of the "war on terror", and if Romney becomes president he will almost certainly push the envelope even farther.
#16 Guantanamo Bay
Mitt Romney has publicly stated that he would like to double the number of prisoners in Guantanamo Baby.
Just check out what Romney said Invalid Link Removed....
Now we're going to -- you said the person's going to be in Guantanamo. I'm glad they're at Guantanamo. I don't want them on our soil. I want them on Guantanamo, where they don't get the access to lawyers they get when they're on our soil. I don't want them in our prisons. I want them there.
Some people have said, we ought to close Guantanamo. My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo.
#17 NDAASome people have said, we ought to close Guantanamo. My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo.
Barack Obama just signed a law which allows the U.S. military to arrest American citizens on U.S. soil, detain them indefinitely and ship them off to Guantanamo Bay for endless "interrogation" sessions. Mitt Romney Invalid Link Removed taken a position against this horrible new law.
The truth is that if you look at the history of what he has done (not what he now says), Mitt Romney is virtually a clone of Barack Obama.
If the 2012 election is Romney vs. Obama, it really does not matter which one of them wins. Either one of them would do the bidding of the New World Order.
But millions of Republicans are being fooled. They don't realize that Romney will say just about anything to get elected.
Mitt Romney's wife, Ann Romney, once made Invalid Link Removed about her husband....
“He can argue any side of a question. And sometimes you think he’s really believing his argument, but he’s not.”
So how do we know if he is telling the truth now?
The following is an epic video which demonstrates very clearly how dramatically Mitt Romney has flip-flopped Invalid Link Removed....
Mitt Flop Romney vs Mitt Flop Romney
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U.S. and Israel Set Stage for False Flag and Iran Attack
Kurt Nimmo
February 4, 2012
Events over the last several days reveal that the United States and Israel plan to conduct a false flag terror event to be blamed on Iran. The event will likely occur within the next six months and will result in an attack on Iran prior to the November election.
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Obama’s intelligence chief, James Clapper (center), warned of Invalid Link Removed inside the United States.
Intelligence in U.S. and Israel Warn of Domestic Terror Attack
Officialdom in the United States and Israel have issued a warning about an Iranian “threat stream” against Israeli “soft targets” in America.
The warning arrives several days after Obama’s intelligence boss Invalid Link Removed said Iran may strike inside the United States,
“We predict that the threat on our sites around the world will increase… on both our guarded sites and ‘soft’ sites,” states a letter sent out by the head of security for the Israeli Consul General for the Mid-Atlantic States.
Guarded sites are Israeli government facilities like embassies while soft sites are Jewish synagogues, schools, and community centers.
Invalid Link Removed, the head of Israel’s security service Shin Bet, said recently that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard will attack Israeli and Jewish targets abroad in response to the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists.
In January it was reported Invalid Link Removed was behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan.
“The thwarted assassination plot of a Saudi official in Washington, D.C., a couple of months ago was an important data point,” a nameless official told Invalid Link Removed, “in that it showed at least parts of the Iranian establishment were aware of the intended event and were not concerned about inevitable collateral damage to U.S. citizens had they carried out an assassination plot on American soil.”
Cohen linked the alleged threat to the discredited plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in October. A court document in the case revealed that the Invalid Link Removed as a sting operation and used failed used car salesman and alcoholic Mansour Arbabsiar as a patsy. Arbabsiar, who is from Iran, thought he was participating in a drug deal.
[video=youtube;BroW3Cwm4b4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BroW3Cwm4b4&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Despite the fallacious nature of the plot, intelligence officials used it to hype the specter of Iranian terrorism that will likely result in a false flag operation used as a pretext to invade Iran.
“In the past few weeks, there has been an escalation in threats against Israeli and Jewish targets around the world,” an intelligence document cited by ABC News states. It warns that demonstrations against Israel “could potentially turn violent at local synagogues, restaurants, the Israeli Embassy and other Israeli sites.”
The Israeli bulletin also provides an excuse for the TSA to step-up intrusive pat-downs and demand travelers be subjected to dangerous naked body scanners at airports across the United States.
“According to our evaluation there is a possibility that the forged passports will be used in order to pass as Israeli citizens at the security checks in Israel and around the world. Israeli security authorities may consider an Israeli citizenship as a [criterion] to proceed with a more lenient security check in secure sites such as airports, etc.,” the bulletin explains.
The latest warning arrives two weeks after the Turkish newspaper Zaman reported that a cell of the Quds Unit of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Invalid Link Removed and other targets across Turkey.
Fast Moving Timeline for War
The latest development follows a number of events over the past few weeks that point toward a concerted attack by Israel and then the United States on Iran:
• DEBKAfile reported earlier in the week that the United States will have 100,000 troops in the region by March. “Pentagon has been quietly massing troops and armaments on two islands located just south of the Strait of Hormuz, and within easy striking distance of Iran,” Invalid Link Removed wrote on January 31.
• On Friday, the establishment media reported that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said “there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June,” according to the Invalid Link Removed. The timeline is predicated on Iran entering an Israeli contrived “zone of immunity” in its unsubstantiated effort to build a nuclear bomb.
[video=youtube;8b0M6UWyGeY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded& v=8b0M6UWyGeY[/video]
Iran has issued a number of threats in response to punitive oil and economic sanctions devised by the United States and Europe. On Friday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Invalid Link Removed said in a nationally televised speech that his country will retaliate if Western nations impose crippling oil sanctions. In January, in response to European Union foreign ministers deciding to impose an oil embargo on the country, Iran vowed to Invalid Link Removed.
[video=youtube;1wv9RZCMWlc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wv9RZCMWlc&feature=pl ayer_embedded[/video]
Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Invalid Link Removed admitted on January 9 that Iran has the ability to close off the strategic shipping lane linking the Gulf of Oman with the Persian Gulf. He said doing so would constitute a “red line.”
• In December, in response to Sec. Def. Panetta’s not ruling out an attack, Iran Invalid Link Removed it would hold a military exercise in the Persian Gulf. The Invalid Link Removed, dubbed “Velayat-e 90,” demonstrated that Iran has the ability to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. further exacerbated the situation by sending the aircraft carrier Invalid Link Removed through the Strait of Hormuz while Iran was conducting its war game.
• Russia and China have indicated that an attack on Iran would constitute an attack on their national security. “Iran is our close neighbor, just south of the Caucasus. Should anything happen to Iran, should Iran get drawn into any political or military hardships, this will be a direct threat to our national security,” said Invalid Link Removed, Russia’s deputy prime minister and former envoy to NATO, in mid-January.
War President: Re-electing Obama
In November, Invalid Link Removed said Obama will use war as a re-election tool. “President Barack Obama went on line to America’s senior allies, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Israel and Saudi Arabia, with notice of his plan to attack Iran no later than September-October 2012 – unless Tehran halted its nuclear weaponization programs,” the neocon-connected subscriber-only publication predicted.
“Obama’s announcement was not perceived as a general directive to US allies, but a guideline to blow the dust off the contingency plans for a strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities which stayed locked in bottom drawers for three years,” states the report, adding that “Obama’s announcement spurred Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Israel into girding their navies, air forces, ballistic units and anti-missile defense systems for the challenges ahead.”
Britain’s foreign secretary Invalid Link Removed said in January his country has not ruled out military action against Iran. Britain had dispatched its “most formidable warship Invalid Link Removed” to the Persian Gulf region prior to Hague’s remarks.
In 2010, as Obama’s job rating began its descent into the abyss, former Clintonite and Democrat operative Invalid Link Removed. In July of that year, another former Clintonite, Robert Shapiro, said the only thing can preserve the Obama presidency is war.
“The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” said Shapiro, writing for the Financial Times. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”
The late Washington Post columnist Invalid Link Removed was more succinct. “With strong Republican support in Congress for challenging Iran’s ambition to become a nuclear power, he can spend much of 2011 and 2012 orchestrating a showdown with the mullahs. This will help him politically because the opposition party will be urging him on. And as tensions rise and we accelerate preparations for war, the economy will improve,” he wrote in late 2010.
Tensions will undoubtedly rise if there is a terror attack inside the United States, either against an Israeli target or American one.
It would provide an airtight excuse to unleash the awesome power of the U.S. military against Iran and cast Obama in the adulatory light all “war presidents” receive as the masses fall in line and wave their flags and cheer on “our boys” as they decimate another country and engage in yet another bloody massacre of innocents.
Kurt Nimmo
February 4, 2012
Events over the last several days reveal that the United States and Israel plan to conduct a false flag terror event to be blamed on Iran. The event will likely occur within the next six months and will result in an attack on Iran prior to the November election.
Invalid Link Removed
Obama’s intelligence chief, James Clapper (center), warned of Invalid Link Removed inside the United States.
Intelligence in U.S. and Israel Warn of Domestic Terror Attack
Officialdom in the United States and Israel have issued a warning about an Iranian “threat stream” against Israeli “soft targets” in America.
The warning arrives several days after Obama’s intelligence boss Invalid Link Removed said Iran may strike inside the United States,
“We predict that the threat on our sites around the world will increase… on both our guarded sites and ‘soft’ sites,” states a letter sent out by the head of security for the Israeli Consul General for the Mid-Atlantic States.
Guarded sites are Israeli government facilities like embassies while soft sites are Jewish synagogues, schools, and community centers.
Invalid Link Removed, the head of Israel’s security service Shin Bet, said recently that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard will attack Israeli and Jewish targets abroad in response to the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists.
In January it was reported Invalid Link Removed was behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan.
“The thwarted assassination plot of a Saudi official in Washington, D.C., a couple of months ago was an important data point,” a nameless official told Invalid Link Removed, “in that it showed at least parts of the Iranian establishment were aware of the intended event and were not concerned about inevitable collateral damage to U.S. citizens had they carried out an assassination plot on American soil.”
Cohen linked the alleged threat to the discredited plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in October. A court document in the case revealed that the Invalid Link Removed as a sting operation and used failed used car salesman and alcoholic Mansour Arbabsiar as a patsy. Arbabsiar, who is from Iran, thought he was participating in a drug deal.
[video=youtube;BroW3Cwm4b4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BroW3Cwm4b4&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Despite the fallacious nature of the plot, intelligence officials used it to hype the specter of Iranian terrorism that will likely result in a false flag operation used as a pretext to invade Iran.
“In the past few weeks, there has been an escalation in threats against Israeli and Jewish targets around the world,” an intelligence document cited by ABC News states. It warns that demonstrations against Israel “could potentially turn violent at local synagogues, restaurants, the Israeli Embassy and other Israeli sites.”
The Israeli bulletin also provides an excuse for the TSA to step-up intrusive pat-downs and demand travelers be subjected to dangerous naked body scanners at airports across the United States.
“According to our evaluation there is a possibility that the forged passports will be used in order to pass as Israeli citizens at the security checks in Israel and around the world. Israeli security authorities may consider an Israeli citizenship as a [criterion] to proceed with a more lenient security check in secure sites such as airports, etc.,” the bulletin explains.
The latest warning arrives two weeks after the Turkish newspaper Zaman reported that a cell of the Quds Unit of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Invalid Link Removed and other targets across Turkey.
Fast Moving Timeline for War
The latest development follows a number of events over the past few weeks that point toward a concerted attack by Israel and then the United States on Iran:
• DEBKAfile reported earlier in the week that the United States will have 100,000 troops in the region by March. “Pentagon has been quietly massing troops and armaments on two islands located just south of the Strait of Hormuz, and within easy striking distance of Iran,” Invalid Link Removed wrote on January 31.
• On Friday, the establishment media reported that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said “there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June,” according to the Invalid Link Removed. The timeline is predicated on Iran entering an Israeli contrived “zone of immunity” in its unsubstantiated effort to build a nuclear bomb.
[video=youtube;8b0M6UWyGeY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded& v=8b0M6UWyGeY[/video]
Iran has issued a number of threats in response to punitive oil and economic sanctions devised by the United States and Europe. On Friday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Invalid Link Removed said in a nationally televised speech that his country will retaliate if Western nations impose crippling oil sanctions. In January, in response to European Union foreign ministers deciding to impose an oil embargo on the country, Iran vowed to Invalid Link Removed.
[video=youtube;1wv9RZCMWlc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wv9RZCMWlc&feature=pl ayer_embedded[/video]
Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Invalid Link Removed admitted on January 9 that Iran has the ability to close off the strategic shipping lane linking the Gulf of Oman with the Persian Gulf. He said doing so would constitute a “red line.”
• In December, in response to Sec. Def. Panetta’s not ruling out an attack, Iran Invalid Link Removed it would hold a military exercise in the Persian Gulf. The Invalid Link Removed, dubbed “Velayat-e 90,” demonstrated that Iran has the ability to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. further exacerbated the situation by sending the aircraft carrier Invalid Link Removed through the Strait of Hormuz while Iran was conducting its war game.
• Russia and China have indicated that an attack on Iran would constitute an attack on their national security. “Iran is our close neighbor, just south of the Caucasus. Should anything happen to Iran, should Iran get drawn into any political or military hardships, this will be a direct threat to our national security,” said Invalid Link Removed, Russia’s deputy prime minister and former envoy to NATO, in mid-January.
War President: Re-electing Obama
In November, Invalid Link Removed said Obama will use war as a re-election tool. “President Barack Obama went on line to America’s senior allies, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Israel and Saudi Arabia, with notice of his plan to attack Iran no later than September-October 2012 – unless Tehran halted its nuclear weaponization programs,” the neocon-connected subscriber-only publication predicted.
“Obama’s announcement was not perceived as a general directive to US allies, but a guideline to blow the dust off the contingency plans for a strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities which stayed locked in bottom drawers for three years,” states the report, adding that “Obama’s announcement spurred Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Israel into girding their navies, air forces, ballistic units and anti-missile defense systems for the challenges ahead.”
Britain’s foreign secretary Invalid Link Removed said in January his country has not ruled out military action against Iran. Britain had dispatched its “most formidable warship Invalid Link Removed” to the Persian Gulf region prior to Hague’s remarks.
In 2010, as Obama’s job rating began its descent into the abyss, former Clintonite and Democrat operative Invalid Link Removed. In July of that year, another former Clintonite, Robert Shapiro, said the only thing can preserve the Obama presidency is war.
“The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” said Shapiro, writing for the Financial Times. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”
The late Washington Post columnist Invalid Link Removed was more succinct. “With strong Republican support in Congress for challenging Iran’s ambition to become a nuclear power, he can spend much of 2011 and 2012 orchestrating a showdown with the mullahs. This will help him politically because the opposition party will be urging him on. And as tensions rise and we accelerate preparations for war, the economy will improve,” he wrote in late 2010.
Tensions will undoubtedly rise if there is a terror attack inside the United States, either against an Israeli target or American one.
It would provide an airtight excuse to unleash the awesome power of the U.S. military against Iran and cast Obama in the adulatory light all “war presidents” receive as the masses fall in line and wave their flags and cheer on “our boys” as they decimate another country and engage in yet another bloody massacre of innocents.
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Registered User
Im two pages in... im already irritated with this boatcop? Enjoy the economic collapse when you can eat your wit and pay your bills with arrogance.
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Registered User
Some people WANT answers, you WANT truths and it leads down some dark alleys... Some want to be cozy in a bubble and their counter argument is a crossed arm pout with a head shake and a repetative "no, no" thats dumb. I see fact after fact and video and article aplenty while others make a one sentence reply with little to no intelligence. Same old crap, thats why this world is screwed cause people are puppets with a remotely controlled brain. I wear a tinfoil hat have for years it stops the aliens from reading my thoughts. lol.
EasyEJL
Never enough
you do understand that whats there is just as much made up nonsense as reality?
with ties, not run by. Thats like saying anything said on a website with ties to Obama is his words.
So your thinking is that its wrong for Iran to attack Israel since Israel has publicly said it reserves the right to attack Iran if they don't comply with what Israel and some of the western countries want? Sure they are douches, but that doesn't mean they have 0 right to sovereignity on their own soil.
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Boatcop eventually came across a bit kinder and admitted to taking the issues overly to0 emotionally. At least our initial confrontation didnt take place in a bar, lol
Absolutely, but it comes a time of low support of government where people need drastic visuals to join the team. Think Pearl Harbor and how quickly people enlisted in the military.
These satanic cult worshipping wealth munching child molesting goblins know what they are doing, when to do it, and when to pull back. Working in 25-50 year plan cycles.... they are rather extremely patient compared to the usual instant gratification seeking the majority seeks.
Yeah...the guy sucks they are just as evil as the Isreali goverment. What we have here is some crazy leader from Iran talkin looney stuff, and some crazy leaders from Isreal who on paper have been wiping out an entire race and a entire country off the planet.
I dont think you resolve these issues of preventing a Holocaust with a Holocaust. My concerns are for both the Iranian citizens and the Isreali citizens which ultimately they will both suffer and I dont want to see anyone get hurt.
With all these sanctions the US and NATO puts on Iran your only going to get support of the masses to sign up for the military, support their government and put up a fight. The opposite will come to fruition if stop bullying the countries around, help modernize them by selling them your own services and making it a comfortable place for everyone to live which few then would be willing to let it go.
There are white extremists in the area, we have the KKK not far from here but I dont feel the need to excecute them because their minds are deluted into wanting to wipe out other races. Instead we focus on society as a whole, ignore them (but if they break the law arrest them and give them a fair trial) we hope the following generations they diminish which I believe has worked so far.
There is other issues, it seems we only declare (or humanitarian action) war on countries with resources such as Libya, Iraq, Afgan....What about Congo? Since 1996 there have been 5.4 million civilian deaths...thats about 200,000 short of who was murdered in the Holocaust, why isnt the American dictator and NATO calling for "humanitarian kinetic" action in Congo? Perhaps there is no oil of interest for the corporations supporting these wars in that country?
Nobody wants the Israeli people attacked as evil as that countries government is. We can help Isreal and they can buy intelligence from us and weapons of defense, etc....but that government needs to show it practices what it preaches first but I do acknowledge its not like America does that either, its far opposite.
ax1
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There are translation controversies with the whole "wiped off the map" issues as well, and may have been just misinterpreted (intentional or not), mistranslation (intentional or not) or over-reaction to exaggeration.
What they meant to say is the Isreali regime needs to be wiped out, not the country due to the regime's accessive aggression for 60+ years. Its similar to what Obama had said about Libya recently and their 40+ years of aggression (every country is aggressive in one way or another.)
AE14
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and the proof of nonsense is where?
Wait.....that didnt happen to Obama (see....reverend Wright, and the Professor that sat on a board with Obama who was a domestic terrorist)
come on!Listen, if Israel attacks, I ran has a right to defend itself, and does Israel if Iran attacks. However, both you and Ax have stated that Iran is not a threat, and I think you guys are far too short sighted.
ax1
Legend
Its complicated situation...and I dont believe in violence from either side. I do see a situation of a dying race without a country anymore so I may stick up for a little guy a bit more but really the little guy is both the Israeli and Palestine civilians. I want peace on both sides and I certainly dont think you can just tell the Israelis to totally leave at this point the same way you cant tell China to leave Tibet.
I see one side using military force because they have high tech weapons and uniforms...the other side is called a "terrorist" because they use pre-historic weapons and guerrilla warfare.
Israel created its own enemy Hamas in order to help maintain its power on the Israeli people (Just the way Al-queda is CIA funded to this day.) They are financed by the Israeli CIA (whatever they are called) and use them as a pretext to maintain control and for conflict the same way the US put down the WTC to solidify its control over its people and create conflict overseas.
In the end Israeli government not only kills Palestine's but also kills its own people not only by un-necessary conflict but staging false flag terror on its own country.
The Israeli people and the Palestine both should settle their differences and unit to put down the current regime and install a democracy which of course I never see happening, at least no time soon.
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
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Moshav Tekuma, Israel
Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor's bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile's trajectory back to an "enormous, stupid mistake" made 30 years ago.
"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian *****s and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.
Rest of story and of course stories such as this can be even found directly in Israeli media.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html
ax1
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and the proof of nonsense is where?
Wait.....that didnt happen to Obama (see....reverend Wright, and the Professor that sat on a board with Obama who was a domestic terrorist)
Listen, if Israel attacks, I ran has a right to defend itself, and does Israel if Iran attacks. However, both you and Ax have stated that Iran is not a threat, and I think you guys are far too short sighted.
Iran should have a right to develop its ability to be a threat...they are a government with a military and if they dont build a threat and powerful machine they will be walked over just the way Libya was and have their resources taken. Look how Khaddafi let go of his nuclear ambitions and NATO still destroyed them and installed CIA funded Al-queda to take over the country.
What about China and Russia? They are a threat, so is Congo and their genocide, and Columbia with all their drug crops, and Cuba might invite the russians back with their missiles. What about North Korea? We should just nuke the whole planet in the name of peace before people countries think about going to war with eachother and get it over with.....
Or we can pick up a phone and prevent war like Kennedy did back in the 60's with the Russians.
AE14
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they do have a right to develop as they wish, however, when you make overt threats about supporting killing a particular group of people or killing them yourselves, it might put a slight target on they back. If Iran were smart.....develop and keep your mouths shut. They go around throwing their c0cks around, and if they are not careful, they are going to get annihilated. They cannot have a battle with Israel, as they are in no condition to win it.
I would love to see diplomacy, however, neither side is interested.
neither side is interested, as both sides are terrorists
AE14
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Ax, I just finished reading the article you posted. Its interesting that you even consider something like that as a proof of your conspiracy. It is the old adage "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Israel supported what became Hamas out of need for their fight against the PLO. By your example, the United States is to blame for 9-11 since we armed AQ and the Taliban when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.
Sorry.....the logic does not work
Sorry.....the logic does not work
EasyEJL
Never enough
actually as you state it above, it works perfectly. we are complicit in 9/11 at least to that extent. If we followed a Ron Paul international affairs style doctrine, we would never have funded, armed and trained them. Which very likely would have meant no incident like 9/11
AE14
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ahh....that Ron Paul philosophy. Ok, I will bite. Based on that premise, what happens with the expansion of the Soviets into a powerful position in the Middle East?
EasyEJL
Never enough
We allow it. Who cares? If they don't intrude on our soil, what business is it of ours? You are using the same logic that Iran is using to justify attacking Israel. And Israel is using that logic as the rationale to attack Iran. Which one of them is right? "I'll kill your relative because you killed mine" never ends. Nobody wins.
Again i'll ask real harm does it do to us? Our trade imbalance is the wrong way anyhow, and even if Russia controlled the rest of the planet outside of north + south america, where is the direct real harm to us? With mutually assured destruction, it will never come down to a war between us and them. We couldn't borrow more money? gasp, we'd have to actually live within our means as a nation you mean? Or we'd have to use US based fuel resources instead of sending billions of dollars overseas to people you term as terrorists? oh how terrible that all would be
AE14
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EasyEJL said:We allow it. Who cares? If they don't intrude on our soil, what business is it of ours? You are using the same logic that Iran is using to justify attacking Israel. And Israel is using that logic as the rationale to attack Iran. Which one of them is right? "I'll kill your relative because you killed mine" never ends. Nobody wins.
Again i'll ask real harm does it do to us? Our trade imbalance is the wrong way anyhow, and even if Russia controlled the rest of the planet outside of north + south america, where is the direct real harm to us? With mutually assured destruction, it will never come down to a war between us and them. We couldn't borrow more money? gasp, we'd have to actually live within our means as a nation you mean? Or we'd have to use US based fuel resources instead of sending billions of dollars overseas to people you term as terrorists? oh how terrible that all would be
It must be nice living in lala land,give me a call when you get back to reality (grumpier old men reference).
The harm was financial. But we need to be realistic about the world we live in. You and I both know we were not going to allow the soviets any power in the region, or at least limit it. To say we are the cause is silly, one cannot see every natural consequence before it happens. This is the Paul supporters biggest issue, dealing with the 21st century. Additionally, the "just follow the constitution" line is silly. Back to the 3/5 compromise again.
ax1
Legend
Kind of the way the USA (the mega-corporations and banks) is succeeding in doing so now as well as dominating Africa?
EasyEJL
Never enough
It must be nice living in lala land,give me a call when you get back to reality (grumpier old men reference).
The harm was financial. But we need to be realistic about the world we live in. You and I both know we were not going to allow the soviets any power in the region, or at least limit it. To say we are the cause is silly, one cannot see every natural consequence before it happens. This is the Paul supporters biggest issue, dealing with the 21st century. Additionally, the "just follow the constitution" line is silly. Back to the 3/5 compromise again.
I don't even know for sure it does financial harm. We still are one of the richest countries in terms of natural resources and liveable area. We won't "let" the russians have any more power than we want them to have so both their government officials and cronies and our government officials and cronies can maximize their profits and income.
When you got past enough nuclear missles to destroy every square inch of land on the planet twice, why did we still keep building them? Because the russians were scary, and defense contractors donate to politicians.
ax1
Legend
I am not disagreeing with you. However, we both know that you can never have too many natural resources.
Goldman Sachs has built, or is in the process of building 200,000 hangar size warehouses in...in...China, and filling them up with you know what.
ax1
Legend
Bodies of those who don't believe?
They left a little room for you in the corner..lol
What I meant by that is controlling natural resources is more valuable than money.
Controlling fresh water extremely valuable, more valuable than oil. Reason the Bush's buy property sepcifically to control water in South America (Bolivia I believe)...and also how T.Boon Pickens lobbied for laws in Texas so he can but land to control massive, very massive large reservoirs here in America.
ax1
Legend
Did you forget to read the title of my thread? :yeah:
So what is it that you want America/Nato/Israel <---and/or to do?
Do you want to see a war declared and get into an all out war?
What if China and/or Russia get involved in 2 different scenarios below...
1. China and/or Russia choose to push back against the Western Empire and go all out in the aid of Iran
2. China and/or Russia will secretly fund an unlimited supply of resources (similar the way USA aided Afgan in the 80's,) weapons and technology so Iran can aid itself, this also includes possibly missiles that are effective enough to hit Isreal from Iran
EasyEJL
Never enough
That's why you can't be the one to fire first, should not do saber rattling, and shouldn't intervene unless your sovereign territory is attacked. Not financial interests, or anything else subject to interpretation that will be misused to profit some ones campaign contributors
ax1
Legend
So do you think if Iran is ready to build a nuke tomorrow that the USA should start striking tonight? (and I know you dont want war, but what if?)
We know Iran will eventually be destroyed and lose assuming China and Russia stay out of it, but what if Iran/Syria/Palestine do enough damage to topple 15% (1,000,000) of the Israeli population...is striking first worth the trade off if it prevents what the intelligence tells us that Iran possibly will try to wipe Israel off the map? And that is assuming Iran really had that intention of a suicide mission.
AE14
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ax1 said:
As i said, war is not option 1. I let Israel go at Iran. If it stays as a 1 on 1, then I am out besides "selling" weapons to Israel. (gotta love how history,repeats itself). I would not get involved unless given no other choice. Similar to the "surprise" of Pearl Harbor.
ax1
Legend
You see, if Im interpreting your statement correctly it seems that we have the same conclusive view all along. I almost thought you actually felt the need for war for preventative measures with the USA included in the prevention. Still differences on how to handle Iran of course currently.
carpee
Well-known member
I'd just point out that you have to look at Iran like the leaders of Iran do.
they are on a mission from their god to convert or destroy. they are open with their hatred for Jews and Americans/western ways.
I don't know if diplomacy works with people who believe they are serving a god.
they are on a mission from their god to convert or destroy. they are open with their hatred for Jews and Americans/western ways.
I don't know if diplomacy works with people who believe they are serving a god.
ax1
Legend
If your look deep into the secret societies and oligarchy elite that are running the planet, you will find that they worship into the occult. The difference is these cons have far more power than the Iranians, and their mission is indeed world depopulation. I worry about them, not the Iranian leaders.
ax1
Legend
I 100% agree with you on that also...I didnt mean to come across as if the issue is irrelevant, it certainly is and religious influence on policy should be something to watch closely as well.
methusaleh
Board Supporter
Interesting that you mentioned this line of thought. I do not think that people have a clue about that region. At least, the mainstream media does a great job of keeping true news swept under the rug.
An interesting aside....
People find out my years of service in the Army/Guard (1994-2007), and automatically assume that I was deployed in the Middle East. When I explain that I speak fluent Spanish and excellent conversational Portuguese, and my skillset (not just languages) was needed in Central and South America, more than the ME region, their eyes glaze over and they usually just say "oh." Nobody thinks that anything is going on down there. I have probably been asked furthur questions on the topic only twice. Yet it is a very very interesting region that should not be ignored.
Disregard the cheesy name of the site, and the graphics, and read what I am telling you is one of the most important threads on the Internet. Hopefully it will inspire some of you to go do your own research, as it is a great starting point but does not tell the whole story:
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EasyEJL
Never enough
you realize that all of that is a facade to drum up support and control the population mentally right?
even they think crazy ahmenajad has been going too far, so they are ripping him up on something unrelated
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its all a much more subtle hidden game. not a conspiracy per se, but what media shows is all propaganda (there and here).
ax1
Legend
Feel like going to Northern California to worship a 45 foot owl and do a mock child sacrafice? Nixon, Bush, Kissenger, Eisenhower, Clinton, Schwarzenegger all have and much more...
As Nixon is quoted that he visits time to time, he mentions that "it is the most ***gy (<----gay reference) goddamned thing you can ever imagine"
Maybe Kissinger will dress in drag for you (srs).
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Thank you for serving the country.
I was not aware of the specific issue you just posted, I will be looking into it.
South America is indeed ignorned...there are some interesting correlations between the cocoa in Columbia and the way Poppy production has skyrocketed in afganastan (in which the military admits to helping grow the poppy on national television).
Keep posting info about anything you like here, or any subject you feel..... even if its about the Superbowl, lol
We have all these dictators of America openly saying they serve god, and now we have people like Newt Gingrich saying on important matters of policy he looks to god for answers, and Romney..
We have people in that run this country who believe that serve god trying diplomacy with people in other countries who believe they are serving god...its all a big mess and they are all just as bad and all need to be watched.
edit: Just to be clear I have no problems with politicians or people who believe in god, just the ones that run their policy decisions that "talk to god"
EasyEJL
Never enough
you realize the "russia is going to get us" "iran is going to get us" "china is going to get us" is just as much tin foil hattery.
ax1
Legend
These people are all into the occult or some type of worship...your not paying attention to behind the scenes of the wealthiest, politically influential, and most powerful people in the world. Your not understanding the worlds power structure and the past/current leaders history. For example, you cant be director of the CIA without being a crusading Knights of Malta.
The Rothschild family carries this logo, the two-headed eagle emblem of the Byzantine Empire.
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knights_hospitaller
Knights of Malta
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Members include Reagen, Tony Blair, Prescott Bush, Heinrich Himmler (and more Nazi Criminals,) William F. Buckley Jr., Ted Kennedy, Edgar Hoover, Nelson Mandela, George Bush, Oliver North....and much more.
Look at the Rothschild family, they all wear the two-headed eagle emblem of the Byzantine Empire
Another example is Blackwater is much more than just a private military force, they are the Knights of Malta.
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Emblem of the Order of St John, the English Protestant ecumenical branch of the Order of Malta, which is a Catholic secret society integrated with the elaborate super-structure Freemasonry.
AE14
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no doubt, that is why I have never said that either. If you read through my posts you will see that I have strictly stated I dont want to get involved unless I have no other choice. However, the major difference, and where you are incorrect is that the Bilderbergers (or any other silly group) dont come out and say "We support anyone killing Israel and Jews", and then have the potential to build a nuke.
Big difference
AE14
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Ax, I like you and respect what you say, however the paranoia is a bit over the top. The next connection you are going to make is that since the eagle is in the images (many of them) this all ties back to the Romans (earlier extension of the Byzantine). Hmmm....
Just kind of curious....what are all these groups after? World domination? 1 world currency? What benefit do all these "secrets" have?