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Hey Coop,

What is your take on Humanofort? Dr. Houser seems to like it, and I think I read in previous posts that Vaughn thinks it has potential (albeit in fairly large doses).
 
domore said:
Hey Coop,

What is your take on Humanofort? Dr. Houser seems to like it, and I think I read in previous posts that Vaughn thinks it has potential (albeit in fairly large doses).
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The data seems to be there. Unfortunately, dosing it correctly would necessitate heavy expenses. It's similar to phosphatidylserine in that there is good, human data on the compound, but it's excluded from the market simply due to cost and the presence of other ingredients that can get the job done without hurting your wallet as badly.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
The data seems to be there. Unfortunately, dosing it correctly would necessitate heavy expenses. It's similar to phosphatidylserine in that there is good, human data on the compound, but it's excluded from the market simply due to cost and the presence of other ingredients that can get the job done without hurting your wallet as badly.
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Okay, if I can save up some money, cut back on some of the unnecessary things I have now, I may give it a go.

Do you think Humanofort will be included in MAN's new product, PF3?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Why not use both? If you have to pick, r-ala or coq10 would work best with carnitine.
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I was wondering about the na-r-ala for free radical damage from dosing 2 grams each of LCLT/PLC/ALCAR, but it looks like D said as long as your not doing it long term(i.e. more than 3-4 months), free radicals damage should not be a problem. How do you dose when you use these three? Do you take them together, empty stomach, with carbs, pre and post workout, pre-bed ect? I ordered all three, from Nutraplanet and just was wondering how you take them. I did some searching, but there seems to be different opinions, but you seem to be know what your talking about and have used these before.
 
domore said:
Okay, if I can save up some money, cut back on some of the unnecessary things I have now, I may give it a go.

Do you think Humanofort will be included in MAN's new product, PF3?
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Was not aware MAN was making a new product besides the Nolva one. What's it advertised to do?

blackjackcat said:
I was wondering about the na-r-ala for free radical damage from dosing 2 grams each of LCLT/PLC/ALCAR, but it looks like D said as long as your not doing it long term(i.e. more than 3-4 months), free radicals damage should not be a problem. How do you dose when you use these three? Do you take them together, empty stomach, with carbs, pre and post workout, pre-bed ect? I ordered all three, from Nutraplanet and just was wondering how you take them. I did some searching, but there seems to be different opinions, but you seem to be know what your talking about and have used these before.
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I would not concern yourself with free radicals induced my carnitine pro-oxidation. That effect was documented at the 6 month stage (though it may have occurred sooner).

LCLT - 2g preworkout
PLCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising
ALCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising

I personally take PLCAR at 2g preworkout only and and ALCAR at 2g both preworkout and on off days. When I have LCLT, I use about 3g preworkout.

Do them all on empty unless you're trying to elevate muscle carnitine (which should NOT be your goal unless you are wealthy).
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Was not aware MAN was making a new product besides the Nolva one. What's it advertised to do?



I would not concern yourself with free radicals induced my carnitine pro-oxidation. That effect was documented at the 6 month stage (though it may have occurred sooner).

LCLT - 2g preworkout
PLCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising
ALCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising

I personally take PLCAR at 2g preworkout only and and ALCAR at 2g both preworkout and on off days. When I have LCLT, I use about 3g preworkout.

Do them all on empty unless you're trying to elevate muscle carnitine (which should NOT be your goal unless you are wealthy).
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This was the exact info I was looking for, thanks Mr. Cooper!
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Was not aware MAN was making a new product besides the Nolva one. What's it advertised to do?



I would not concern yourself with free radicals induced my carnitine pro-oxidation. That effect was documented at the 6 month stage (though it may have occurred sooner).

LCLT - 2g preworkout
PLCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising
ALCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising

I personally take PLCAR at 2g preworkout only and and ALCAR at 2g both preworkout and on off days. When I have LCLT, I use about 3g preworkout.

Do them all on empty unless you're trying to elevate muscle carnitine (which should NOT be your goal unless you are wealthy).
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Split dosing not necessary?

I had been taking 1.5g pre and then .75g later on, typically with food.
This is with 2.5-3g LCLT pre
 
D3Baseball said:
Split dosing not necessary?

I had been taking 1.5g pre and then .75g later on, typically with food.
This is with 2.5-3g LCLT pre
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What are you splitting, ALCAR?

It's too much labor I'd say for LCLT. Just take it preworkout all at once. You'll get plenty of the recovery benefits that way, and the other benefits you get from LCLT even if you're sedentary will still apply if you take it in one dose preworkout. It has a long half life, no need to split.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
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Coop, inbox full but here is my response

Potentiation of alpha and delta ppar agonists?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Just take it at once if you don't get a headache
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Only felt effect I've ever had from ALCAR is headaches when keto dieting. No problems or benefits for that matter on a normal diet. I'll try full dose pre.

Dodge over at bb.com said something about depletion of carnitine levels throughout the day or something.
 
D3Baseball said:
Only felt effect I've ever had from ALCAR is headaches when keto dieting. No problems or benefits for that matter on a normal diet. I'll try full dose pre.

Dodge over at bb.com said something about depletion of carnitine levels throughout the day or something.
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Depletion of carnitine? You certain? It's been demonstrated that muscle carnitine can be increased with administration of 2g carnitine daily with carbs.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Depletion of carnitine? You certain? It's been demonstrated that muscle carnitine can be increased with administration of 2g carnitine daily with carbs.
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Coop, why do some recommend alcar to be taken with alpha lipoic acid?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Was not aware MAN was making a new product besides the Nolva one. What's it advertised to do?
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I think it is only in beta testing.

From what I gather, it is just concentrated doses of growth factors, and some other proprietary ingredient that will be known upon release.

I threw out a guess that Humanofort may be the hidden ingredient.
 
Clemenza said:
Coop, why do some recommend alcar to be taken with alpha lipoic acid?
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That had been answered a few pages back. He posted a really good reply if you look.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
This is a great point. The carnitine moiety is likely what is responsible for the effects of LCLT on AR density and recovery, but at the same time, we do not know if other carnitine salts can accomplish this end result due to the fact that LCLT has superior kinetics/half-life. As far as ALCAR and PLCAR, I think most of the documented benefits are exclusive to those salts. For instance, the nootropic effect (acetate donation) of ALCAR and the cardioprotective effect (Propionyl-CoA elevation in cardiomyocytes) of PLCAR would be exclusive to those two forms.
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Well, I don't exactly agree - especially in terms of carioprotective effect. Standard LCAR has been studied actually and yields comparable results EXCEPT in needed times of overt ischemia (i.e. - acute MI); but really...the salt is less dependent on much outside of "timed need," which may or may not be expedited in some instances [The data is available; I just don't have time at present to offer a great retort outside of that unfortunately, but a simple search of Carnitine versus PLC would yield plenty of data]. I am absolutely convinced that the salt becomes less pertinent in a dose-dependent manner as well.


D_
 
dinoiii said:
Well, I don't exactly agree - especially in terms of carioprotective effect. Standard LCAR has been studied actually and yields comparable results EXCEPT in needed times of overt ischemia (i.e. - acute MI); but really...the salt is less dependent on much outside of "timed need," which may or may not be expedited in some instances [The data is available; I just don't have time at present to offer a great retort outside of that unfortunately, but a simple search of Carnitine versus PLC would yield plenty of data]. I am absolutely convinced that the salt becomes less pertinent in a dose-dependent manner as well.


D_
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I believe you're right, but would you not agree that the accelerated rate of carnitine entry into cardiomyocytes is dependent on PLCAR's ability to enter skeletal muscle directly, rather than needing prolonged administration (as with L-Car and LCLT).
 
dinoiii said:
I actually think the studies show quite the contrary - the problem (at least in some people's eyes), they are all Romanian... and in Romania, its actually still classified a drug. Many supplements GROSSLY underdose the thing, but effective dosing is a minimum of 300mg (if not more) - but in individuals with decreased IGF-1, we've had great response with Humanofort monotherapy.

A company known as GEN used to have the best product dosed at 300mg...years later, Labrada picked it up and in the stand-alone, it was not remotely the same item as when I had used it in years previous out of GEN. Since the release of their HumanoGrowth, which I recently invested in (wary - to say the least) and over the course of the last 4 days - DOUBLE-DOSED mind you (so, 8 caps before bed)...I have had incredible sleep results and wake up feeling great (mind you, given my schedule - sleep is a hot commodity).

So, if the science fits...Humanofort should lead to an elevation of 17-ketosteroid levels in the adrenal gland (my DHEA levels were low on a recent blood draw and decreased DHEA and/or IGF-1 levels are met with increased cardiovascular disarray). In fact, Humanofort has shown to raise these levels by as much as 68%! Increased 17-ketosteroid levels will mean increased lipid metabolism and improved anabolism, through an elevation of androgens and a decrease in the catabolic hormone cortisol (which has been talked about a great deal in this and many other threads in this subforum). The documented antioxidant proprieties will also limit exercise-induced free radical damage to muscle tissue (again - let's re-visit the utility when we have spoken of oxidation and the like in this thread). In any event, I will do a full review when done with the Labrada product - but again, double-dosed, so we are talking only a 15-day trial...but I would be happy to invest in it - even at the cost of the product for 15 day cycles IF it actually works; I will follow up with blood work too btw on my DHEA levels and any impact to adrenal steroids...stay tuned.




1. Effects of Oral Administered Humanofort on Steroid Hormones Level and on Oxidative Stress” by Prof. Gh. Mihaescu, T. Stoica, F. Oancea, Medicine Pharmacy University „Carol Davila” Bucharest, Romania

2. Oxidative Stress decrease in Old Age Patients Treated with Drugs Containing Embryonic Peptides Gh. Mihaescu, O. Mihaescu, I. Mihaescu, National Institute for Geriatrics and Gerontology „Ana Aslan”, Bucharest, Romania

3. Clinical Trial of Humanofort Effect on Overweight Endocrinology Institute „C. I. Parhon” Bucharest, Romania




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Bumpin' for Dr. Houser
 
wandagustov said:
These supplements should be included on my top 10 list: immune support, krill oil, chlorella, coq10 and vitamin b12.
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Krill? Why? From what i've read thus far, you're better off sticking with fish oil.
 
Dr,

Should we worry about getting too much folic acid as a result of taking a B Complex? Ergo-log just posted a study saying getting too much folate can promote cancer. Thanks for your help.
 
Excess Folic acid, being a synthetic form of folate, can be problematic for some people. Depends how well their body does at converting it to l-methylfolate. Seeing as how in the USA a lot of foods are fortified with it, I personally avoid it in any supplements. If I were to supplement folate I would use 5-mthf
 
broons said:
Excess Folic acid, being a synthetic form of folate, can be problematic for some people. Depends how well their body does at converting it to l-methylfolate. Seeing as how in the USA a lot of foods are fortified with it, I personally avoid it in any supplements. If I were to supplement folate I would use 5-mtfh.
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Jarow's B-Right FTW!
 
Specifically something like metafolin, extrafolate-s or maybe quatrefolic which is the s-isomer. There is still a question afaik on whether the r-isomer or the racemic mixture could possibly be detrimental. If anyone knows of any further data shedding light on the isomers, please let us know.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Was not aware MAN was making a new product besides the Nolva one. What's it advertised to do?



I would not concern yourself with free radicals induced my carnitine pro-oxidation. That effect was documented at the 6 month stage (though it may have occurred sooner).

LCLT - 2g preworkout
PLCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising
ALCAR - 2g preworkout or upon rising

I personally take PLCAR at 2g preworkout only and and ALCAR at 2g both preworkout and on off days. When I have LCLT, I use about 3g preworkout.

Do them all on empty unless you're trying to elevate muscle carnitine (which should NOT be your goal unless you are wealthy).
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I am taking ALCAR, PLCAR and [FONT=Veranda, Arial]LCLT (each at 2 Gr/day), Beta Alanine (4 Gr/day), Taurine (2 Gr/day), Tyrosine (1 Gr/day), AAKG, ALA (600 Mg/day), and Cittruline Malate (6 Gr/day), and I would like to add Inositol, IP-6, TMG and Choline Citrate. For those most informed, can you please suggest daily amounts of [/FONT]Inositol, IP-6, TMG and Choline Citrate?

Thanks
 
Idk if this has been asked, but how do you feel about something like Green Vibrance (greens, probiotics, etc)? Ingredient profile below:

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Servings per Container: 30[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Ingredient[/TD]
[TD]Amount[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]% Daily Value**[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Total Fat[/TD]
[TD].77gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saturated[/TD]
[TD].18gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trans Fat[/TD]
[TD]0gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Polyunsaturated[/TD]
[TD].44gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Monounsaturated[/TD]
[TD].12gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cholesterol[/TD]
[TD]0gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sodium[/TD]
[TD]46.7gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Potassium[/TD]
[TD]203mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total Carbohydrate[/TD]
[TD]6.9gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dietary Fiber[/TD]
[TD]2.82gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugars[/TD]
[TD]1.54gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Protein[/TD]
[TD]2.63gr[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin A[/TD]
[TD]4764IU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]95.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin C[/TD]
[TD]45.5mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]75.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Calcium[/TD]
[TD]156mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Magnesium[/TD]
[TD]27mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Iron[/TD]
[TD]3.74mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]20.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin B12[/TD]
[TD]2.66mcg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]44.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Vitamin K[/TD]
[TD]124 mcg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]154.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nutrient Dense Plant Concentrates[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Spirulina[/TD]
[TD]1500mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Wheat grass juice powder[/TD]
[TD]990mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Alfalfa grass juice powder[/TD]
[TD]570mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Barley grass juice powder[/TD]
[TD]570mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Oat grass juice powder[/TD]
[TD]570mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Hydrilla Verticillata[/TD]
[TD]500mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Alfalfa sprout powder[/TD]
[TD]440mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Beet juice powder[/TD]
[TD]300mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Chlorella, soft cell, pharmaceutical grade[/TD]
[TD]300mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Parsley powder, freeze dried[/TD]
[TD]250mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Zucchini powder, freeze dried[/TD]
[TD]250mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Carrot root powder[/TD]
[TD]200mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Green bean powder, freeze dried[/TD]
[TD]120mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Broccoli sprout powder[/TD]
[TD]100mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Spinach leaf powder, freeze dried[/TD]
[TD]100mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Kamut grass juice powder[/TD]
[TD]80mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sea Vegetable Complex[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Kelp[/TD]
[TD]200mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Alaria[/TD]
[TD]100mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Laver[/TD]
[TD]100mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Rockweed[/TD]
[TD]50mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cell Membrane & Nerve Support[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Soy lecithin powder 98% oil-free[/TD]
[TD]750mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]High Fiber Foods & Prebiotics[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Larch arabinogalactans[/TD]
[TD]600mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Fructo-oligosaccharides[/TD]
[TD]600mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Stabilized brown rice bran[/TD]
[TD]500mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Whole apple powder[/TD]
[TD]400mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Milled Flaxseed concentrate[/TD]
[TD]200mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Antioxidants & Circulatory Support[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Vitamin E[/TD]
[TD]100IU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]333[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Acerola berry juice powder, 25% natural vitamin C[/TD]
[TD]200mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Ginkgo bilboa extract[/TD]
[TD]20mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Green tea standardized extract[/TD]
[TD]20mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Green seed standardized extract[/TD]
[TD]20mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Pomegranate extract[/TD]
[TD]20mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Policosanol[/TD]
[TD]5mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Antioxidants & Liver Support[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Tamarind juice and pulp powder[/TD]
[TD]100mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Silymarin milk thistle extract, 80% silybin[/TD]
[TD]60mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Carrot root extract 4:1[/TD]
[TD]50mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Chicory root extract 4:1[/TD]
[TD]50mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Dandelion root extract 4:1[/TD]
[TD]50mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Chicory root powder[/TD]
[TD]25mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Gentian root extract 4:1[/TD]
[TD]15mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Adaptogens[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Schizandra berry extract, 2% schizandrin[/TD]
[TD]150mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Eleutherococcus senticosus root extract, 0.8% eleutherosides[/TD]
[TD]80mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Suma root extract[/TD]
[TD]60mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Immune Support[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Astragalus membranaceus extract[/TD]
[TD]60mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Larch arabinogalactans[/TD]
[TD]30mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Beta 1,3 - 1,6 glucans[/TD]
[TD]30mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12 Dairy-Free Probiotic Cultures[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactobacillus acidophilus HA-122[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactobacillus rhamnosus HA-111[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactobacillus rhamnosus B HA-114[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactobacillus paracasei HA-108[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactobacillus plantarum HA-119[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactobacillus helveticus HA-128[/TD]
[TD]0.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Bifidobacterium breve HA-129[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Bifidobacterium longum HA-135[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Bifidobacterium bifidum HA-132[/TD]
[TD]1.25 bil[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lactococcus lactis HA-136[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Propionibacterium shermanii HA-182[/TD]
[TD]2.5 bill[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Streptococcus thermophilus HA-110[/TD]
[TD]0.75 bil[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Enzyme Complex[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Protease 4.5[/TD]
[TD]110HUT[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Protease 6.0[/TD]
[TD]110HUT[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Lipase[/TD]
[TD]150 FCCL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Amylase[/TD]
[TD]6DU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Invertase[/TD]
[TD]1SU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Cellulase[/TD]
[TD]7CU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Skeletal Support[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Vitamin D3[/TD]
[TD]1000IU[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]250[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Phyto-Boron[/TD]
[TD]3mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fortifying Phyto-Minerals[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Phyto-Chromium[/TD]
[TD]80mcg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]67[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Phyto-Selenium from Orgen-SE mustard seed extract[/TD]
[TD]50mcg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]71.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tonics[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Ginger root powder[/TD]
[TD]20mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Cayenne pepper powder[/TD]
[TD]2mg[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Palatability Factor[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]-Concord grape juice, freeze dried, Kosher[/TD]
[TD]210mg[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
What is a good dosage for CoQ10?. I see varying opinions depending on what its "used for". I think I may get a bottle of 100mg caps when I have the money and maybe make it a "staple" of mine.
 
Is melatonin a good staple I feel it works for me but hard to find enough info on it for ergogenic purposes other than deep restive sleep on demand any help here with info??
 
T-Bone said:
What is a good dosage for CoQ10?. I see varying opinions depending on what its "used for". I think I may get a bottle of 100mg caps when I have the money and maybe make it a "staple" of mine.
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400mg for athletes.

sugardaddy69 said:
Is melatonin a good staple I feel it works for me but hard to find enough info on it for ergogenic purposes other than deep restive sleep on demand any help here with info??
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It's a nice antioxidant and it can normalize sleep cycles. Use at doses of 250mcg-1mg.
 
T-Bone said:
So am I better off just getting 400mg caps and taking once a day or getting a smaller dosage and taking several times a day?. Or does it matter much?
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Not a terribly large deal, just take it with a fatty meal. I take one 400mg cap in the AM with some buttered eggs.
 
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