haven't heard anything about winny v, but my friends swear by the tren, and especially the tokkyo test, on this board ppl hate on the company because no one knows about it, but my friends have seen good results using their products
and another thing we only hate the brands that dont werk, and most have been tested to show that their bunk, and some companies areare just crap,caugh cough coughmuscletech cough
just hate to see people waste hard earned money, unless its on me
agreed, most ppl on this board only know about the sponsored products here.
I too have friends that really liked the Tokkyo test.
Most of the time when some one post this brand ppl will go to there site and then complained about the prices. but that is how it is, most home sites of products will be on the higher end, and sold cheaper elsewhere.
Yeah, i wuz like thats f ucked up, and a bunch of suckers are gonna get taken i just know it, cause they will see the normal price $129.99(for a SD clone, baaahhh)and you only pay shipping $19.99 and they will send ya a bottle, but that sneaky small print guys, you better read that ****, cause alot of companies are starting to hop in this "hidden contract with transaction" deal. Becuz so many people dont balance their check books or even check to see where their money is going.I checked out the unknowingly charging your card and that is BS that they do that!!
To a degree it is true that many members of AM only speak of or log the stuff from the sponsors. Honestly, I went multi board(some boards quite unique) and really see the wide wide wide WIDE range of PH/DS available. TOKKYO has earned itself a bad name period. There are though many other companies that produce.
ALL TOKKYO PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN RECENTLY REFORMULATED INTO ****TY NON 17a COMPOUNDS CONSISTING MOSTLY OF DHEA AND CAFFINE, PLEASE CUT AND PASTE NOMENCLATURE INTO WIKIPEDIA AND CHECK IT OUT YOUR SELF, WITH THAT SAID, THE OLD GOOD PH's FROM TOKKYO HAVE THE NOMENCLATURE ON THE FRONT OF THE BOTTLES IN A WHITE BOX , AND WILL HAVE LOW DOSAGES, AND WILL ALSO NOT SAY XTREME ON THEM. THANKYOU FOR PLAYING AND STAY OUT OF THE MAX MUSCLE SHOPS,.