Looked like an amazing trip and kept everything in line! Been an awesome year man!
Yeah people have to realize it takes time to build a physique, get stronger, and have big max lifts. But just like in those 2 years the key is steady progression. It’s always good when you look back and your PRs and muscle mass have all grown.Been a wild 2 years man. Sept 2022 weighed in at 183, went on the strength train focus, and broke PRs that were 1/2 decade old, broke my 300lb bench, deads reached 485 ground/520 from the rack, and squats PR'd although they're not impressive, my recent PR was ground breaking for me.
so here I am 2 years later almost back to the same starting weight but definitely with a higher PL total still and holding a lot more mass. been a good run!
That's what it's all about! This it's the stuff right here.Been a wild 2 years man. Sept 2022 weighed in at 183, went on the strength train focus, and broke PRs that were 1/2 decade old, broke my 300lb bench, deads reached 485 ground/520 from the rack, and squats PR'd although they're not impressive, my recent PR was ground breaking for me.
Hit peak of 207lbs on Dec 4th 2023, which is when I hit my deadlift PR as well.
so here I am 2 years later almost back to the same starting weight but definitely with a higher PL total still and holding a lot more mass. been a good run!
Yeah people have to realize it takes time to build a physique, get stronger, and have big max lifts. But just like in those 2 years the key is steady progression. It’s always good when you look back and your PRs and muscle mass have all grown.![]()
That's what it's all about! This it's the stuff right here.
This is why most people never grow; they are terrified of gaining weight. To grow muscle IS to gain weight, beyond beginner gains. You must consume enough to be in a surplus. Even the most balanced addition will inevitably add some fat, but then that excess can later be stripped with calculated discipline.It was a little stressful intentionally gaining weight after staying so lean for a decade, sort of a leap of faith. Although getting much stronger and larger and eating more freely quickly became much more fun!
The switch to a cut this summer was partially because I needed to know if I could. Too many people talking about "how much harder it is" now that they're "X" age. I needed to prove to myself that I could still cut. Kleens competition prep was a huge motivator for me, and my wife hiring her coach was exactly the catalyst to help build my own success off of. I'm not there yet, but I'm really incredibly relieved.
I'm not even sure it has been "hard" to get those 21lbs off, just time/commitment and patience. Patience was the difference. I was already eating and training, I just changed my eating and training a little.
I agree….in today’s society most have that microwave mindset and don’t have the patience of what it takes to build muscle and strength the proper way. So they’re always chasing the next get built quick routine, but just like most things in life you have to put in the work, time, and effort to succeed.This is why most people never grow; they are terrified of gaining weight. To grow muscle IS to gain weight, beyond beginner gains. You must consume enough to be in a surplus. Even the most balanced addition will inevitably add some fat, but then that excess can later be stripped with calculated discipline.
The truth is it all just takes time; it’s a process that doesn’t happen overnight. Many people have TikTok attention spans. They overestimate what can be accomplished in a year & underestimate what can be done in 5, as they say.
Also, you’re not giving the Carnitine enough time to get absorbed! Put it on before you drive to the gym. Injection is the only way you can take it at the gym effectively. And I still do that before I drive there.
Damn! That’s going to be a long cook on that one! Man you are going to be set for a while!@akboom87 look at the size of that brisket. 375lbs of home grown grass fed beef. @MrKleen73 I hope you include beef in the nutritional coaching. Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
Damn! That’s going to be a long cook on that one! Man you are going to be set for a while!
Hope you have a hella large deep freezer to store all that meat!
That’s roughly what it was here I can’t remember exactly but I thought very reasonable. Yeah that’s a good supply! I think ares was 275-280lbs. Hoping the next time I’m needing beef I can look out and see MINE grazing in the pastureyes it is LOL, but I honestly struggle with anything under 5-6lbs to get the right texture and finish. the big ones cook better I think! I'm guessing this is a 2 years supply on red meat, the steaks might run out first but we have just a few lbs left from the 1/2 cow that we got about 2 years ago. although 375lbs of processed meat was a HUGE steer. My folks have the other half. I think our last steer was under 300lbs for a half!
dude it was so close... like I literally have a couple heavy items on the lid of the deep freeze right now to make sure it stays closed but we have a huge bag of bones in there that are going to my wifes friend so that will clear up some space
meat processing fees have come down a LOT since covid. it was $.95/grind and $1/processed steaks etc. $210 for the slaughter guy to do his job so my 375lbs was only $468 out the door including half slaughter fee, taxes etc. Honestly feels like a smoking deal.
Oh yeah beef is included but normally pretty lean cuts. Did you have them do any 93/7 ground beef or anything like that? Obviously some things can just be adjusted around cuts of meat, and others just have to wait for the right timing to insert in as long as not too insanely high in fat content. IE Brisket would likely need to be reserved for a free meal or smaller portion with other lean meat to balance things out a little. Definitely great for a having everyone over for a BBQ and having a big caloric refeed kind of situation.It was a little stressful intentionally gaining weight after staying so lean for a decade, sort of a leap of faith. Although getting much stronger and larger and eating more freely quickly became much more fun!
The switch to a cut this summer was partially because I needed to know if I could. Too many people talking about "how much harder it is" now that they're "X" age. I needed to prove to myself that I could still cut. Kleens competition prep was a huge motivator for me, and my wife hiring her coach was exactly the catalyst to help build my own success off of. I'm not there yet, but I'm really incredibly relieved.
I'm not even sure it has been "hard" to get those 21lbs off, just time/commitment and patience. Patience was the difference. I was already eating and training, I just changed my eating and training a little.
Facts!we are 100% responsible for our own success in life but surrounding yourself by motivation is like buying high quality tools for your job.
Damn that is cheap! I would need a new deep freeze though. I would like to find somewhere I could just get a whole sirloin. flank steak, and maybe some tenderloin, and round steak. Have the round steak ground up since so lean.yes it is LOL, but I honestly struggle with anything under 5-6lbs to get the right texture and finish. the big ones cook better I think! I'm guessing this is a 2 years supply on red meat, the steaks might run out first but we have just a few lbs left from the 1/2 cow that we got about 2 years ago. although 375lbs of processed meat was a HUGE steer. My folks have the other half. I think our last steer was under 300lbs for a half!
dude it was so close... like I literally have a couple heavy items on the lid of the deep freeze right now to make sure it stays closed but we have a huge bag of bones in there that are going to my wifes friend so that will clear up some space
meat processing fees have come down a LOT since covid. it was $.95/grind and $1/processed steaks etc. $210 for the slaughter guy to do his job so my 375lbs was only $468 out the door including half slaughter fee, taxes etc. Honestly feels like a smoking deal.
Did you have them do any 93/7 ground beef or anything like that
IE Brisket would likely need to be reserved for a free meal or smaller portion with other lean meat to balance things out a little. Definitely great for a having everyone over for a BBQ and having a big caloric refeed kind of situation.
Damn that is cheap! I would need a new deep freeze though. I would like to find somewhere I could just get a whole sirloin. flank steak, and maybe some tenderloin, and round steak. Have the round steak ground up since so lean.
I don’t know what you can get it down to, but cook the ground beef and then strainer in the sink dump in and rinse with some water can really clean it up.
Man that’s a great price on all that meat….we have a lot of cattle around here and a meat processor up the road, so we get great deals on meat, but you can’t beat what you paid. And I love fresh off the farm food, meat, vegetables, eggs, and dairy (even though I am a Fairlife milk guy), are all better fresh.
While this is a great idea for general lifestyle eating, there is unfortunately no way to track macros with this method. Fat can be much higher or lower just from rinsing with hotter water or just a little longer or shorter. Definitely a good way to lower calories but if tracking specific macros this won't suffice.I don’t know what you can get it down to, but cook the ground beef and then strainer in the sink dump in and rinse with some water can really clean it up.
The flank, ground bottom round, and tenderloin are going to be about 20% fat 80% protein. So not too bad there. Sirloin is also going to be in relatively low in fat especially once trimmed. Great for evening meals before bed when carbs are lower and you want the protein and fat to feed you through the night.I emailed my wife to double check, it never even occurred to me to think about that in regards to the grind. This was the cut sheet she worked off, so I am not 100% sure how it's actually categorized compared to the lean grind I would buy at the store.
Our egg supply is insane right now lol. we get like 6-8 per day so my wife gives them away frequently. I'm trying to get her to sell half our flock to move the older hens out and let the younger ones spread their wings a bit, ha.
I agree, there is currently nothing wrong with your physique at all. You should be proud of what you have built. Your previous condition was based on a lot of compulsive behavior that although kept you leaner kept you from progressing your muscle growth. You look like a stud for any age. Stop comparing yourself to a look you see now and consider skinny, or fitness models and or body builders who are in the single digits and be proud of what you have achieved. You damn well should be. Most people on here will be impressed. Especially since you have been so secretive about it most people probably have a worse picture in their mind than what you actually look like. This coming from someone who is lucky enough to have earned your trust and seen a few. Trust me you will get complimented, and that will be validating and help you with motivation, and your satisfaction levels of what you have achieved. Just saying... Think of it like me not wanting to take my shirt off at the concert. Once I let myself I got a great response I wasn't expecting and it was a huge confidence boost. No one is expecting you to look like a bodybuilder in prep, and not willing to settle for less but you.Pump was insane. Loving this cut right now. One day I'll stop being a pussy and get some decent pics.
Got my lat training regiment ready for today's session.
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Dang that’s awesome!Bench day with my boy
Bench
10 x 115, 155
3 x 195, 225, 255
2 x 175
1 x 190
10 x 225
12 x 205
Squats
10 x bar
5 x 95, 135, 155, 175
1 x 225
Cable standing skullies
3 sets
GHD
3 sets
Holy **** I'm so excited my boy just hit 245 I squats like I hit 135
Meant to have a major push day but I got so excited by my by his success we just focused on that.
He hit a bench PR at 185 and squat PR at 245. He has 315 in him right now easy.
Then he told me he wants to play baseball this year?!?! Who is this kid!?Dang that’s awesome!

Heavier and leaner is always cool to see!
Holy smoke man! Pretty impressed homie!Slowly the vascularity returns. The abs are a fickle bitch that comes and go but the arms are developing. You can definitely see the disparity in right vs left.
Some knowledge and improvement in an actual pose might conceal some of it, but the difference is there lolView attachment 245812
Thanks dude! It's taken a lot of work to get the biceps to start showing some size and shape but it's finally starting to pay offHoly smoke man! Pretty impressed homie!

Oh for sure and you got some meaty forearms to go along with em!Thanks dude! It's taken a lot of work to get the biceps to start showing some size and shape but it's finally starting to pay off![]()
The extra 3 reps a set should probably do the trick, or just do and extra set or two for that arm on every movement for both biceps and triceps.
You just need increased volume at an intensity high enough to stimulate more hypertrophy.
Also just so you know, if the arms were a weak point previously I would say you have corrected that issue, those arms go right along with that beefy chest and boulder sho
If you are not planning on doing a big squat push, I would recommend tossing in more leg press with feet lower on the platform, pushing the knees out over the toes and going very deep. Get a good stretch at the bottom pause for a second and come out of the whole semi-explosively. Basically, s fast as you can while still feeling the full tension of the weight throughout the concentric contraction. Then lowering under control. Lift specifically for hypertrophy, and hypertrophy you will get.Dude this is why a coach is valuable. how I did not even think about the tricep is beyond me. good advice!
I think I have really loved the recovery I get from gear cream. I can just go go go and recover so fast. Hopefully my recovery doesnt' decrease too drastically when I go back to natty for a few months.
THANK YOU! I'm feeling much better about the repetitive work I've put into them all year. My log probably looks silly with all the bicep work I've done, but they're finally showing lol. I think my worst two attributes right now are extra bodyfat, If I carve the middle section that will make the lats pop more, and my legs. They're not horrible but I'm working harder on hypertrophy work there. The hackquats blew me up yesterday!
Same thing goes here for the curls, if hypertrophy is the goal, if you do partials, keep them in the stretched portion of he movement. The bottom 1/3-2/3 of the rep are more beneficial for hypertrophy as to where the mid and upper portion are just going to allow you to use more weight with less hypertrophy stimulation. While end range training is an excellent way to bring up strength of a lagging body part like lockouts, board press, or a slingshot on bench they are not as beneficial for growth. So train with specificity of what you are trying to accomplish at the time, and your results will reflect that change.100lb ez bar curl was too much in some ways. 50% cheater reps on the way up with slower controlled descents. on all my ez bar sets the last rep is a pause and as slowly returned to bottom as possible.
I also threw in a set of those db curls at 30lbs as 1/3 sets, similar to 21s but instead of doing bottom to middle, or middle to top, I kept the db in the middle 1/3 of rom with a very suppinated grip to force the tennis ball pump and just try to annihilate the bicep until I couldn't lift my arm.
it was fun. one of those incredibly fun lifting days.
Weight 190
@Dustin07 See man, I told you nothing but compliments on this picture Brother! Has to feel pretty good getting the compliments! I know it feeds my drive to do even better.Man you a looking thick!!! Body fat looks pretty good too.
Man you a looking thick!!! Body fat looks pretty good too.
If you are not planning on doing a big squat push, I would recommend tossing in more leg press with feet lower on the platform, pushing the knees out over the toes and going very deep. Get a good stretch at the bottom pause for a second and come out of the whole semi-explosively. Basically, s fast as you can while still feeling the full tension of the weight throughout the concentric contraction. Then lowering under control. Lift specifically for hypertrophy, and hypertrophy you will get.
Same thing goes here for the curls, if hypertrophy is the goal, if you do partials, keep them in the stretched portion of he movement. The bottom 1/3-2/3 of the rep are more beneficial for hypertrophy as to where the mid and upper portion are just going to allow you to use more weight with less hypertrophy stimulation. While end range training is an excellent way to bring up strength of a lagging body part like lockouts, board press, or a slingshot on bench they are not as beneficial for growth. So train with specificity of what you are trying to accomplish at the time, and your results will reflect that change.
@Dustin07 See man, I told you nothing but compliments on this picture Brother! Has to feel pretty good getting the compliments! I know it feeds my drive to do even better.

The guys corrected me a while back on the IF discussion. I have loosely referred to intermittent fasting as those 16:8 and 20:4 intervals but I believe IF is more likely those longer 30hr fasts whereas TRF or time restricted feeding more accurately defined what I've done with a 20:4 approach many times.That’s a solid day! Awesome session and got back for some liss. I’m drawing a huge blank… what is TRF?
Well I keep not getting notified of updates, but you’re doing good in here.
I still call it IF. More people know what intermittent fasting means colloquially, so it’s simpler than me having to explain.
I don't use the term time restricted feeding with anyone in day to day life, but use IF often because it is a common enough term now that for general people the underlying meaning of the term is understood.