TNICK7's 2 WEEK SD BLAST LOG

[thundergod]

I'm not trying to sway your decision at all. I'm merely relaying my personal experience. I have ran it at 30 mg. twice before, with NO problems. You say that you're not having any bad sides thus far. Try bumping it up to 30 mg. for a few days to see how you feel. If you start to feel "bad", then taper back down to the 20 mg. dose until your cycle is finished. You'll never know if you don't try it!! I've seen lots of others run it at 30 mg. also with no problems. Everyone reacts differently though. :think:

 

[tnick7]

Thanks a lot guys for the input. I'm going to continue until the end of the week at 20mg, then take it from there, but I must admit 30mg seems slightly appealing We will see

 

[tnick7]

Day 13

Legs and Calves. Started today with leg press as squat rack was taken and didnt want to wait Cant tell if I was stronger because I repped 750lbs (8 plates) for 9 reps, which is more than usual, but my legs are usually fatigued after 4-5 sets of squats. However not a bad workout. Weight was still 210lbs. I'm going to add in another protein shake (50g protein) to up calories a bit.

As for upping the dose, my heart says up it, my head says dont , but you know the saying "listen to your heart", so I think for the last 5 days I will up it to 30mg, and I have enough Liver Longer tabs to make it 2 a day, so will do that. Reason being, things seem to be slowing down, and its only 5 days!

 

[nunes]

Legs and Calves. Started today with leg press as squat rack was taken and didnt want to wait Cant tell if I was stronger because I repped 750lbs (8 plates) for 9 reps, which is more than usual, but my legs are usually fatigued after 4-5 sets of squats. However not a bad workout. Weight was still 210lbs. I'm going to add in another protein shake (50g protein) to up calories a bit.

As for upping the dose, my heart says up it, my head says dont , but you know the saying "listen to your heart", so I think for the last 5 days I will up it to 30mg, and I have enough Liver Longer tabs to make it 2 a day, so will do that. Reason being, things seem to be slowing down, and its only 5 days!

agreed bro, go forward with it

 

[UnrealMachine]

I'm not trying to sway your decision at all. I'm merely relaying my personal experience. I have ran it at 30 mg. twice before, with NO problems. You say that you're not having any bad sides thus far. Try bumping it up to 30 mg. for a few days to see how you feel. If you start to feel "bad", then taper back down to the 20 mg. dose until your cycle is finished. You'll never know if you don't try it!! I've seen lots of others run it at 30 mg. also with no problems. Everyone reacts differently though. :think:

30mg was good for me, after a few days anyway, i got a little more strength when it was slowing down.

Tnick are you getting sore from these workouts? When i was on SD i wasn't getting sore no matter how hard i worked, it was rather amazing.

 

[tnick7]

30mg was good for me, after a few days anyway, i got a little more strength when it was slowing down.

Tnick are you getting sore from these workouts? When i was on SD i wasn't getting sore no matter how hard i worked, it was rather amazing.

Yep, I am. Its strange, I'm incredibly sore the next day, but a day or two after I feel completely recovered! Have you finished up now? If so how's PCT going?

 

[UnrealMachine]

Yep, I am. Its strange, I'm incredibly sore the next day, but a day or two after I feel completely recovered! Have you finished up now? If so how's PCT going?

PCT is coming along, I'm keeping most of the strength and mass but my muscles look a lil deflated and I threw in creatine w/ PCT so i look fulla water too. My life got hectic last week and i swear i got softer by missing a few days, but i'm hitting it strong again and feeling great. My next cycle will be 2 bottles of Trenadrol sometime in November, it'll be a Winter cut to 9% bodyfat or so.

Yea i didn't really get sore, but sometimes i felt a deep aching soreness, it was different, i thought it was like a tendon/ligament soreness. But like you, i knew i was fully recovered after just a couple days. Usually it takes me closer to 5 days to recover, with SD it was cut in half.

I LOVE superdrol... i used 5 compounds and it's worlds better than anything else i've used. Enjoy it man! I wouldn't hesitate to add a couple extra days (Just IMO). For me suppression wasn't as bad as people said, and my libido never dipped, even in PCT i'm doing great.

 

[tnick7]

Good to hear UnrealMachine.


Guys what do you think about starting DC training in PCT or do you think its a bit risky starting a program I havent done before during such an important period???

 

[Trauma1]

I'm in brother. I have some catching up to do with this log.

 

[thundergod]

Guys what do you think about starting DC training in PCT or do you think its a bit risky starting a program I havent done before during such an important period???

I think you should wait until a couple of weeks into PCT before starting a DC type of routine. It is very intense. I think you'd fare better to keep pounding it the way you are for the first 2 weeks and then switch over to the DC training. I'm 5 weeks into my first DC blast and I'm loving it. I didn't adopt a 100% DC routine however. Mine is definitely personalized and modified. Check out my log and read through a few of my recent workouts. You'll see that I include back off sets and some isolation movements as well. A true DC routine is severely abbreviated. Good luck bro. I know you've probably read a lot about DC, but if not, here's a little info. :head: Invalid Link Removed

 

[tnick7]

T1 brother, an honor to have you :thumbsup:

I think you should wait until a couple of weeks into PCT before starting a DC type of routine. It is very intense. I think you'd fare better to keep pounding it the way you are for the first 2 weeks and then switch over to the DC training. I'm 5 weeks into my first DC blast and I'm loving it. I didn't adopt a 100% DC routine however. Mine is definitely personalized and modified. Check out my log and read through a few of my recent workouts. You'll see that I include back off sets and some isolation movements as well. A true DC routine is severely abbreviated. Good luck bro. I know you've probably read a lot about DC, but if not, here's a little info. :head: Invalid Link Removed

Thanks TG, thats exactly what I have been reading up on. Getting there! I think you are right. I'm going away for 3 days, a month post cycle (basically at the end of PCT) so I think I will pick up DC when I return all fresh after 3 days off

I may bump it to 30mg tomorrow. I though I was getting lethargic, but I think I just had a tiring day yesterday because today I am just full of energy and I've been up for 15hrs so far, so whatever lethargy I have isn't too bad:thumbsup:

 

[tnick7]

Day 14

Shoulders and Traps. Nice w/o today, strength up from last shoulder day for sure. I think I hit a PR on BB Shoulder press today. Got 90kg (~200lbs) for 5 reps. I have bumped it to 30mg for these last 6 days, dosing 20mg pre w/o and another 10mg 6-8 hrs later.

Weigh-in: 211lbs



Today is the end of week2 so will give a mini-review:

Strength Gains:

Strength gains have kicked in this week, major lifts are all up around 10lbs, and its feels like its just the start.

Weight Gains:

Weight is up 11lbs form day one. I always gain 3-4lbs from carb loading so I don't attribute it all to the SD, however I will say whatever I have gained in both size and strength seems VERY maintainable!

Size Gains:

Arms measure in at 16.125, so thats .125" gain so far. Not huge, but I feel a lot of the weight has gone to the thickness in my back. I feel and look a lot thicker. MY back has always been wide and now the thickness seems to be catching up which is good, only disappointed with arm growth, but there is still 6 days to go!

Side Effects:

Only side effects are minor lower back and shin pumps occasionally, mild lethargy (possibly imagining it), and mild testicular atrophy (expected).

 

[thundergod]

Shoulders and Traps. Nice w/o today, strength up from last shoulder day for sure. I think I hit a PR on BB Shoulder press today. Got 90kg (~200lbs) for 5 reps. I have bumped it to 30mg for these last 6 days, dosing 20mg pre w/o and another 10mg 6-8 hrs later.
Only side effects are minor lower back and shin pumps occasionally, mild lethargy (possibly imagining it), and mild testicular atrophy (expected).

Those sides are to be expected. Nothing major at all. You're probably not imagining the lethargy, but it is likely due to extra hard training. Up your Vitamin C to 4 or 6 grams per day. I take 4 grams on non-training days. Then I take 6 grams on trainng days because I take 2 grams 1 hour before each workout to reduce cortisol build-up. But extra Vitamin C and some DHEA do wonders in combatting lethargy. And on the way you're dosing. I'd split up all 30 mg. to 10 mg. at a time to ensure peak blood concentration levels. Super-Drol isn't very androgenic, so it really doesn't affect aggression or rage for one's training. Now TRN on the other hand......WOW!! :head:

 

[tnick7]

Those sides are to be expected. Nothing major at all. You're probably not imagining the lethargy, but it is likely due to extra hard training. Up your Vitamin C to 4 or 6 grams per day. I take 4 grams on non-training days. Then I take 6 grams on trainng days because I take 2 grams 1 hour before each workout to reduce cortisol build-up. But extra Vitamin C and some DHEA do wonders in combatting lethargy. And on the way you're dosing. I'd split up all 30 mg. to 10 mg. at a time to ensure peak blood concentration levels. Super-Drol isn't very androgenic, so it really doesn't affect aggression or rage for one's training. Now TRN on the other hand......WOW!! :head:

Nice bro!! I will split up the doses. I'm only on a 1-2g of Vitamin C at the moment, but I will up it.:thumbsup:

 

[xtgear]

good log, I`m late but I`m here:thumbsup:

 

[tnick7]

Day 16

Good to have you xt!:thumbsup:

Chest and Biceps today. Strength gains have completely stopped by the looks of things My shoulders were slightly sore from training them 2 days ago, but strength wasn't up at all. However weight on the other hand is up. Weighed in at 215lbs today. I really fell that everything I have gained so far, in terms of strength and size, is very maintainable. So far not what I was expecting, but I'm happy. No new sides to speak of at all!:thumbsup:

 

[nunes]

Good to have you xt!:thumbsup:

Chest and Biceps today. Strength gains have completely stopped by the looks of things My shoulders were slightly sore from training them 2 days ago, but strength wasn't up at all. However weight on the other hand is up. Weighed in at 215lbs today. I really fell that everything I have gained so far, in terms of strength and size, is very maintainable. So far not what I was expecting, but I'm happy. No new sides to speak of at all!:thumbsup:

by now if you had to rate on a 1-10 scale this short superdrol cycle what would you say?

 

[tnick7]

by now if you had to rate on a 1-10 scale this short superdrol cycle what would you say?

good question. I take 3 factors into account, muscle gain, strength gain, side effects. So far,

On size gains (muscle gains not weight): 7.5/10

On strength gains (lifts up around 10lbs): 4/10

Side effects: 9.5/10

so average: 7/10 so far

So far it is going very differently than expected, but I am very glad with the lack of sides. If strength kicks up in the last few days I will be VERY happy!

 

[thundergod]

So far it is going very differently than expected,

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly did you expect bro?? I've always been extremely happy with my results on Super-Drol.

 

[tnick7]

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly did you expect bro?? I've always been extremely happy with my results on Super-Drol.

Sure thing bro. Reading a lot of reviews/threads about SD you here of horrible sides and huge strength gains which are completely unmaintainable. I havent experienced either. Which is a good thing, obviously huge strength gains are great, but I can imagine losing them during PCT would be extremely demoralizing. And obviously no one wants sides!!!

I do not mean in it hasn't met my expectations, or I am not happy (I am!), the results are just different to what I imagined.:thumbsup: (I know I only gave it a 7/10 so far, but I'm being realistic. If I gave this a 9 or 10, what would Test be!?! )

I will say this. My only comparison is Epistane which I ran alongside Furazadrol. I would say a 2 week SD cycle is fairly comparable to a 4 week Epistane cycle IME, however I did get some acne on Epistane towards the end, thus so far I would say sides on SD are less!!!!


One thing I would love to ask everyone is about the "on" feeling. Whilst running I feel great in the gym, obviously, but I often read of having that "on" feeling 24/7 on some compounds (SD often mentioned). This I haven't experienced, I feel no different (other than a bit more "hard") during day to day life. Have anyone had that "on" feeling?

 

[tnick7]

Day 17

Back and Triceps. Great day, strength back on the rise today, loving it

DL 4 plates a side for 6 reps (and at the end of the w/o), tried 5 plates, couldnt quite get it But nevertheless I'm happy.

Chin-ups are just as hard as they were and weight is way up so thats good news.

Weigh-In today was 216lbs, 2 days to go, can I hit 220lbs?

Tried reverse grip bench press (on smythe machine) for triceps today, actually the first time ever, I like it a lot. Tri's and forearms looking thick!

 

[thundergod]

Weigh-In today was 216lbs, 2 days to go, can I hit 220lbs?

Hit the buffet today and tomorrow and you will! Eat a bunch of steaks, chicken, sweet potatoes and green beans. It's exactly what I'm gonna do in less than 2 hours from now. I've already worked out and followed that up with a whey shake, a bowl of raisin bran, and a can of tuna. Now it's time to go grub down!!! :food: Growth fuel for my muscles. They've earned it!! :thumbsup:

 

[nunes]

super realistic log with no placebo effect, steroids aren't miracle substances when used in short cycles(safest way though), great job tnick

 

[UnrealMachine]

I feel like i experienced the "on" feeling when on Superdrol.

People always talk about "confidence and well-being" and that's how i felt. Also i was incredibly horny, and felt generally unstoppable.
When you're making weight and strength gains like that, it's easy to feel really damn good.


I think you'll get some more strength gains out of it. If i do shoulder press 2 days before chest, my bench will be low. On SD you might be able to get away with it but in general for me if it's sore, i don't work it, ever.

 

[tnick7]

Day 18

Legs today. Lower back was killing me from dead yesterday, plus only took 4g taurine today. Literally could not squat more than 225 but still managed to get a decent w/o in. Still no sides to report, didn't weigh in today. Shoulders tomorrow, hopefully hit some PR's. Tomorrow is the last day on, will put a finial review up then, and update it post PCT.

 

[Bravoboy]

glad you're loving SD. the more i read on SD the more It amazes me @ how it reacts so diverse to different people. I've taken both and it seems to me that epi was alot more harsh on me than SD. Just the opposite of what most will say. By harsh I just mean Back pumps with the epi. I didn't notice any sides from SD. I took it to kickstart a cycle so I can't compare shutdown, but libido was through the roof with both. anyway. just ramblin on. Glad to hear all is goin well with cycle.

 

[tnick7]

glad you're loving SD. the more i read on SD the more It amazes me @ how it reacts so diverse to different people. I've taken both and it seems to me that epi was alot more harsh on me than SD. Just the opposite of what most will say. By harsh I just mean Back pumps with the epi. I didn't notice any sides from SD. I took it to kickstart a cycle so I can't compare shutdown, but libido was through the roof with both. anyway. just ramblin on. Glad to hear all is goin well with cycle.

Thanks man. I can't say from bloodwork, but looking at the boys I would say shutdown is worse with SD Other than that sides are less, only back pumps, whereas epi gave me acne. The back pumps only mildly affected 1 w/o, so I prefer the sides from SD! Libido was up for first two weeks now its back to normal, but definitely no negative effect on libido.

 

[nunes]

glad you're loving SD. the more i read on SD the more It amazes me @ how it reacts so diverse to different people. I've taken both and it seems to me that epi was alot more harsh on me than SD. Just the opposite of what most will say. By harsh I just mean Back pumps with the epi. I didn't notice any sides from SD. I took it to kickstart a cycle so I can't compare shutdown, but libido was through the roof with both. anyway. just ramblin on. Glad to hear all is goin well with cycle.

epi was mild to me, I didn't even notice I was on, lol

 

[futurepilot]

So what do you think, sweet spot 20mg or 30mgs?

 

[tnick7]

So what do you think, sweet spot 20mg or 30mgs?

Hard to say. Honestly 90% of my gains came in the first 11 days! I'm glad I ran it 3 weeks, but if (or more realistically, when) I run it again, I will stick to 2 weeks. The gains came so quickly in the first two weeks. Sides didnt increase at 30mg except 1 zit, lol. I think next time I will run it 20/30.

 

[tnick7]

Wow, just had an incident which I can only describe as 'roid rage', lol. Was shaking my protein, but the lid wasn't on properly, and it went everywhere :toofunny: I threw the shaker, hammer punched a plate on the side counter smashing it, haha. I'm really calm usually, but I just exploded :toofunny: Anyway off to train in a bit, will report back later

 

[nunes]

Wow, just had an incident which I can only describe as 'roid rage', lol. Was shaking my protein, but the lid wasn't on properly, and it went everywhere :toofunny: I threw the shaker, hammer punched a plate on the side counter smashing it, haha. I'm really calm usually, but I just exploded :toofunny: Anyway off to train in a bit, will report back later

no, it wasn't roids rage, you just didn't like them...

 

[tnick7]

Day 19

Final day today. Did shoulders, not the best w/o on cycle but I have had a long tiring day, and knew it wasnt going to be the best. Only took 20mg today, last serving being at 4pm (GMT), so I will start nolva tonight at about 1am before bed.

Final review coming up in a bit. Will updated every so often during PCT. Final weigh-in today was 215lbs (+15lbs). I expect to keep at least 12lbs (possibly lose 2-3lb loss from glycogen) and expect to keep all my strength!

 

[tnick7]

TNICK's FINAL REVIEW

Strength Gains: Strength gains were decent. All lifts went up slowly and steadily, not as expected though. All major lifts gained around 10-15lbs (depending on exercise). I think the strength gains are very maintainable. I give it a 5/10 for strength

Size Gains Great for size gains. Weight jumped up 15lbs.

Shoulders - +0.5"
Chest - +1.25"
Waist - +0.5"
Arms (Flexed) - +0.25"
Arms (Unflexed) - +0.25"
Forearms - +0.25"
Calves - +.025"
Thighs - 0.75"

I give it an 8/10 for size

Side Effects: Very tolerable. Minor back pumps, 2-3 zits which came at 30mg, and expectedly some testes atrophy, other than that great. I give it a 8.5/10.

Would I run it again?: Yes, and I will

What would I do differently?: I would run it for just 2 weeks, which is when 90% of the gains came. I would run it 20/20 or maybe 20/30

The important stuff:

During these 3 weeks:

- Everyone noticed I put on size, and commented

- 3 people (1 friend, 2 guys at the gym) asked the question we all want to here: "what are you on"

This is just for a laugh, but I am my worst critic (as I guess many of us are), and other people noticed, even though I usually train in an XL t-shirt:thumbsup:

Thanks to everyone who followed along and helped out. I will keep this updated 2-3 times a week during PCT.
:bb3:

 

[thundergod]

Way to go bro. :clap2: Those are some very nice increases and improvemnts there. Very good cycle run in my opinion. I know PCT will be a breeze for you , mainly because of your mental attitude towards it. I like that!! Keep pounding the heavy sh*t....and remember----NEVER SURRENDER!!!! :head:

 

[pistonpump]

great log and good cycle. 15lbs is enormous gains in my book! No libido problems at all? Well keep that smile on your face in PCT.Tighten up the diet and training and you can keep gaining in PCT imo. peace.

 

[tnick7]

great log and good cycle. 15lbs is enormous gains in my book! No libido problems at all? Well keep that smile on your face in PCT.Tighten up the diet and training and you can keep gaining in PCT imo. peace.

Thanks brah. No libido problems at all. It actually shot up in the first week or two on cycle, but since then its been completely normal. Appetite has been down these first two days on PCT, but I'm still making the meals and calories (just not enjoying it much ), but this happened to me on epi as well, and lasted for around 5-7 days. Had two days off to recuperate and hitting chest tomorrow.

As for training, I'm going back to a 5 day split monday to friday, rest on weekends, reducing volume a bit but keeping it intense.

 

[thundergod]

As for training, I'm going back to a 5 day split monday to friday, rest on weekends, reducing volume a bit but keeping it intense.

Good idea on backing off the volume a little. You need more recovery time now that you're not "juicing". lol I started my 2 week "cruise" period of DC training where you intentionally back off the poundages and stop well short of total muscular failure. It's an "active-rest" if you will. I don't like actually taking a week off of total training. My mind doesn't enjoy the withdrawals!! :aargh: LOL I'm an intensity junkie! :fool2: For real. I crave that berzerker rage and total fury while working out!! I was almost embarrassed to log down the numbers from this morning's workout. But I wanted to show everyone how much I backed off for this active layoff. Keep the poundages high in your PCT however. You can rest later!! HA HA :smite:

 

[tnick7]

First day training in PCT

After taking the weekend off to recuperate, was back today and hit chest. I honestly could arguably say I feel the same way I did in the third week! Weights were good, probably an extra rep on the same weight from last week (probably because of the rest period!).

But thats not it. Today I weighed in same time as usual, after eating the same as usual and weight is way up. I think its a one off, but we will see throughout this week. I weighed in at 220lbs I up calories over the weekend, maybe thats it, I'm at over 4000cals now.

 

[thundergod]

After taking the weekend off to recuperate, was back today and hit chest. I honestly could arguably say I feel the same way I did in the third week! Weights were good, probably an extra rep on the same weight from last week (probably because of the rest period!).

But thats not it. Today I weighed in same time as usual, after eating the same as usual and weight is way up. I think its a one off, but we will see throughout this week. I weighed in at 220lbs I up calories over the weekend, maybe thats it, I'm at over 4000cals now.

I've experienced the same thing bro. I don't dread PCT's like some guys seem to do. It seems to be a very depressing time for some. They lapse into a deep dark funk! :sad: I'm always optimistic and positive as you are. That is a definite plus. Keep training hard, eating good, and resting properly. You'll have a great PCT!! :thumbsup: That strong mental attitude of yours will carry you wherever you wish to go!! :head:

 

[nunes]

I've experienced the same thing bro. I don't dread PCT's like some guys seem to do. It seems to be a very depressing time for some. They lapse into a deep dark funk! :sad: I'm always optimistic and positive as you are. That is a definite plus. Keep training hard, eating good, and resting properly. You'll have a great PCT!! :thumbsup: That strong mental attitude of yours will carry you wherever you wish to go!! :head:

PCT is one of the most challenging periods in bb, people should see it like the most important period of the cycle, keep the gains and pull back the natty test is a clear objective and being able to achieve it is what makes the difference between a regular bodybuilder and a very good one

 

[GQNemesis]

damn nice log tnick .. wow good gain in lbs .. way over what u wanted ...thats good .. was this the original SD from AX ? or a clone .. glad it worked out for u

 

[tnick7]

damn nice log tnick .. wow good gain in lbs .. way over what u wanted ...thats good .. was this the original SD from AX ? or a clone .. glad it worked out for u

Thank you bro. It wasnt original. I ordered 2 clones, iForce Methadrol and CEL Mdrol. The Mdrol was on backorder when I got it so didnt arrive in time, so this time I ran Methadrol, so have mdrol for next time. IMO they are the 2 best SD clones, both purity tested to over 99%. Mdrol is A LOT cheaper though.



So far PCT is going well. Weight is hovering around 217-218lbs. Strength is pretty much the same. Only noticeable change is obviuously the all day pumps have gone down, but all is good.:thumbsup:

 

[thundergod]

So far PCT is going well. Weight is hovering around 217-218lbs. Strength is pretty much the same. Only noticeable change is obviuously the all day pumps have gone down, but all is good.:thumbsup:

Are you taking any kind of NOS supp during your PCT bro? It's about the only time I do use them. They help a little. I've never tried one that blew me up like gear does, but they seem to help a little.

 

[tnick7]

Are you taking any kind of NOS supp during your PCT bro? It's about the only time I do use them. They help a little. I've never tried one that blew me up like gear does, but they seem to help a little.

No I'm not bro. Those kind of things have never worked for me. I keep it VERY simple when it comes to supplements (whey, multi, fish oil). I'm still getting great pumps in the gym (more muscle now so bigger pumps ), but they last a couple of hours now as oppose to a couple of days

I picked up some bulk CEE powder but I'm still taking B5, I'm sick of the current protein I'm using (vanilla ), and to add bulk CEE is just unbearable, makes me gag. May pick up some capped creatine or capping kit.

 

[nunes]

Are you taking any kind of NOS supp during your PCT bro? It's about the only time I do use them. They help a little. I've never tried one that blew me up like gear does, but they seem to help a little.

if you can find Dorian Yates nox pump, try it bro, that product its a bomb in Europe, the energy it gives is fantastic.
Another product that is making a huge success in Europe is prelox, it was made to treat sexual dysfunction but the latest studies show that the mechanism is the nos improvement, with a bonus, testosterone also rises, I just order some to my PCT
SEE THIS:
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Improvement of erectile function with Prelox: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover trial.Stanislavov R, Nikolova V, Rohdewald P.
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Medical University Sofia, Faculty of Medicine, Sofia, Bulgaria.

In a randomly allocated, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover design, 50 patients with mild to moderate erectile dysfunction (ED) were treated for 1 month with placebo or a combination of L-arginine aspartate and Pycnogenol (Prelox). Patients reported sexual function from diaries. Testosterone levels and endothelial NO synthase (e-NOS) were monitored along with routine clinical chemistry. Intake of Pycnogenol for 1 month restored erectile function to normal. Intercourse frequency doubled. e-NOS in spermatozoa and testosterone levels in blood increased significantly. Cholesterol levels and blood pressure were lowered. No unwanted effects were reported. Prelox is a promising alternative to treat mild to moderate ED.

PMID: 17703218 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Akush Ginekol (Sofiia). 2007 ;46 (5):7-12 17974175 (P,S,E,B) [Sperm parameters in male idiopathic infertility after treatment with prelox]

[My paper] V Nikolova, R Stanislavov, I Vatev, B Nalbanski, M Pŭnevska
The diagnosis of male infertility is determinate after assessment of sperm quality and clinical study. In nearly 30% of the cases nevertheless detailed clinical and laboratory study it can't be discovered the cause and on the bases of exclusion criteria set the diagnosis idiopathic infertility. The object of our study was investigation of the group patients (n=50) with idiopathic infertility treated with Prelox and to be studied its effects on spermatozoa parameters. MATERIAL AND METHODS: The study design was double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over, randomized study, including introduction period (1 month), two therapeutic periods (each one of 1 month) separated with 1 month wash out period and concluding period of 1 month. There was applied a new method for treatment with mechanism of action stimulation the production cGMP of spermatozoa endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS). This is not surprising achieving results show improvement of sperm quality. The methods of the study were: 1. Assessment of the conventional semen analysis (according the criteria of WHO, 1999). 2. Spermatozoa function tests. 3. Spermatozoa-cervical mucus penetration tests. RESULTS: The obtained results showed improvement of sperm quality, in the middle-aged men the therapeutic answers was better than in younger. In conclusion the therapy with Prelox improve sperm parameters in men with idiopathic infertility. Pycnogenol (one of the constituents of Prelox) has powerful antioxidative influence ameliorating spermatozoa function.
Mesh-terms: Adult; Arginine :: administration & dosage; Arginine :: therapeutic use; Cyclic GMP :: metabolism; Double-Blind Method; Drug Combinations; Flavonoids :: administration & dosage; Flavonoids :: therapeutic use; Humans; Infertility, Male :: diagnosis; Infertility, Male :: drug therapy; Infertility, Male :: etiology; Male; Middle Aged; Nitric Oxide Synthase Type III :: metabolism; Sperm Capacitation :: drug effects; Spermatozoa :: drug effects; Spermatozoa :: enzymology; Spermatozoa :: metabolism; Treatment Outcome;

i`ll post this info in my log also cause this **** really works

 

[tnick7]

if you can find Dorian Yates nox pump, try it bro, that product its a bomb in Europe, the energy it gives is fantastic.
Another product that is making a huge success in Europe is prelox, it was made to treat sexual dysfunction but the latest studies show that the mechanism is the nos improvement, with a bonus, testosterone also rises, I just order some to my PCT
SEE THIS:
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Improvement of erectile function with Prelox: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover trial.Stanislavov R, Nikolova V, Rohdewald P.
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Medical University Sofia, Faculty of Medicine, Sofia, Bulgaria.

In a randomly allocated, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover design, 50 patients with mild to moderate erectile dysfunction (ED) were treated for 1 month with placebo or a combination of L-arginine aspartate and Pycnogenol (Prelox). Patients reported sexual function from diaries. Testosterone levels and endothelial NO synthase (e-NOS) were monitored along with routine clinical chemistry. Intake of Pycnogenol for 1 month restored erectile function to normal. Intercourse frequency doubled. e-NOS in spermatozoa and testosterone levels in blood increased significantly. Cholesterol levels and blood pressure were lowered. No unwanted effects were reported. Prelox is a promising alternative to treat mild to moderate ED.

PMID: 17703218 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Akush Ginekol (Sofiia). 2007 ;46 (5):7-12 17974175 (P,S,E,B) [Sperm parameters in male idiopathic infertility after treatment with prelox]

[My paper] V Nikolova, R Stanislavov, I Vatev, B Nalbanski, M Pŭnevska
The diagnosis of male infertility is determinate after assessment of sperm quality and clinical study. In nearly 30% of the cases nevertheless detailed clinical and laboratory study it can't be discovered the cause and on the bases of exclusion criteria set the diagnosis idiopathic infertility. The object of our study was investigation of the group patients (n=50) with idiopathic infertility treated with Prelox and to be studied its effects on spermatozoa parameters. MATERIAL AND METHODS: The study design was double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over, randomized study, including introduction period (1 month), two therapeutic periods (each one of 1 month) separated with 1 month wash out period and concluding period of 1 month. There was applied a new method for treatment with mechanism of action stimulation the production cGMP of spermatozoa endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS). This is not surprising achieving results show improvement of sperm quality. The methods of the study were: 1. Assessment of the conventional semen analysis (according the criteria of WHO, 1999). 2. Spermatozoa function tests. 3. Spermatozoa-cervical mucus penetration tests. RESULTS: The obtained results showed improvement of sperm quality, in the middle-aged men the therapeutic answers was better than in younger. In conclusion the therapy with Prelox improve sperm parameters in men with idiopathic infertility. Pycnogenol (one of the constituents of Prelox) has powerful antioxidative influence ameliorating spermatozoa function.
Mesh-terms: Adult; Arginine :: administration & dosage; Arginine :: therapeutic use; Cyclic GMP :: metabolism; Double-Blind Method; Drug Combinations; Flavonoids :: administration & dosage; Flavonoids :: therapeutic use; Humans; Infertility, Male :: diagnosis; Infertility, Male :: drug therapy; Infertility, Male :: etiology; Male; Middle Aged; Nitric Oxide Synthase Type III :: metabolism; Sperm Capacitation :: drug effects; Spermatozoa :: drug effects; Spermatozoa :: enzymology; Spermatozoa :: metabolism; Treatment Outcome;

i`ll post this info in my log also cause this **** really works

Nice bro. I'm in the UK, so these are both sold here. How does the yates NOX pump taste? May grab some since it has creatine in it as well

 

[nunes]

Nice bro. I'm in the UK, so these are both sold here. How does the yates NOX pump taste? May grab some since it has creatine in it as well

like sh*t , lol, but it works ...
that test increase in prelox is promising, try it and then tell me what you think about it, mine is arriving and I also bought it in UK.
Good to know you`re European bro, sometimes is helpful to get info on some UK stores

 

[tnick7]

like sh*t , lol, but it works ...
that test increase in prelox is promising, try it and then tell me what you think about it, mine is arriving and I also bought it in UK.
Good to know you`re European bro, sometimes is helpful to get info on some UK stores

Yeah for sure, its a pain ordering from the states and paying duty and VAT on top of high shipping costs. I may go onto town and pick some Prelox up on Friday. Thanks again Nunes!

 

[nunes]

Yeah for sure, its a pain ordering from the states and paying duty and VAT on top of high shipping costs. I may go onto town and pick some Prelox up on Friday. Thanks again Nunes!

anytime bro