TimberLakers' H-Drol Beatdown

[ThisGuy2]

I see your point. We're still debating. The SD obviously kicks in much faster, and the H takes almost 3 weeks to kick in (for me)... Depends at what point in the cycle you want the extra kick in the pants. I'm not sure I'd want SD and H active at the same time. I want to see what SD feels like I guess?

Agreed, and I wouldn't want anything more than 50mg of hdrol in my body at the same time as even 10mg of mdrol. That'd just be beggin' for liver damage.

Besides, the mentality was that hdrol doesn't start giving you gains until week 3 or so, where sd starts like on day 2, so by this logic, with a kickstart you'd have gains the entire cycle. In fact, you'd have BIG gains the first two weeks, then steady, lean dry gains throughout. By the end of this badboy, you could be looking at 15-18 more lb of very hard, dry muscle.

 

[KgTomCat]

btw: I saw some talk a couple pages back about bridging SD to HD...I don't understand the logic in this!

wouldn't it be more beneficial to bridge to the HD to SD?

and KgTomCat...start researching bro! the idea that you're cycling kinda scares me!

I know it seems scary, I wanna make sure everything is in order...alittle OCD I guess

 

[delsolrob]

I see your point. We're still debating. The SD obviously kicks in much faster, and the H takes almost 3 weeks to kick in (for me)... Depends at what point in the cycle you want the extra kick in the pants. I'm not sure I'd want SD and H active at the same time. I want to see what SD feels like I guess?

I see the theory behind your logic, but when bridging compounds you want to start with the more mild of the two. what you'd want is for the SD to kick in after the HD has already had a chance to be effective and then the synergy is right there. if you start with SD and then bridge into HD then there's going to be a period in between where there is no synergy because the HD has not "kicked" in yet.

 

[delsolrob]

...just my $.02 :thumbsup:

 

[ThisGuy2]

I see the theory behind your logic, but when bridging compounds you want to start with the more mild of the two. what you'd want is for the SD to kick in after the HD has already had a chance to be effective and then the synergy is right there. if you start with SD and then bridge into HD then there's going to be a period in between where there is no synergy because the HD has not "kicked" in yet.

I can see your point as well, but you'd need to drop the dosage on the hdrol when you introduce the mdrol. 100mg of hdrol w/ 10mg of mdrol would be so toxic to your liver, I shudder to think what it would do to your values. How much more "umf" do you reall need w/ mdrol anyway?? I was thinking more in terms of getting a solid 6 week cycle, as opposed to building it up for 2 weeks to get a 4 weeker out of it.

We couldn't know for sure w/ out testing liver value sboth ways, but I really feel that this would be the safest way to combine the two.

 

[GMG760]

I see the theory behind your logic, but when bridging compounds you want to start with the more mild of the two. what you'd want is for the SD to kick in after the HD has already had a chance to be effective and then the synergy is right there. if you start with SD and then bridge into HD then there's going to be a period in between where there is no synergy because the HD has not "kicked" in yet.

IMO, I would use the Mdrol like a dbol kick in a test cycle. You only run the Dbol for the first 4 weeks then you just let the test do it's thing...

well, I am gonna run the mdrol and let it kick in the hdrol... there is no bridge... I am gonna be running the hdrol from day one, just a low dose... so technically there would be no downtime because the first 2 weeks of nonexistant hdrol gains would be compensated by the 2 week mdrol burst.

Eh, my liver can take it... he know's who's boss. It's not like I am talking about halotestin.

 

[Ziquor]

IMO, I would use the Mdrol like a dbol kick in a test cycle. You only run the Dbol for the first 4 weeks then you just let the test do it's thing...

well, I am gonna run the mdrol and let it kick in the hdrol... there is no bridge... I am gonna be running the hdrol from day one, just a low dose... so technically there would be no downtime because the first 2 weeks of nonexistant hdrol gains would be compensated by the 2 week mdrol burst.

Eh, my liver can take it... he know's who's boss. It's not like I am talking about halotestin.

M-Drol to kick-start test has been done quite a few times a while back but I haven't seen it recently. I wouldn't mind giving it a shot either. P-Plex would also be great for a kickstart too. :food:

 

[GMG760]

I know it seems scary, I wanna make sure everything is in order...alittle OCD I guess

LMAO... dude. He wasn't sympathizing with you. He is saying your lack of/ability to research is scary.

 

[Ziquor]

No exaggeration, I researched AAS literally for years before I took anything. Not that you need too THAT long, but at least a few months would ensure you don't ask redundant questions over & over.

 

[TimberLakers]

Or just listen to that assclown posting in your log.

Time for Leg Demolition. Laters.

 

[Disturbed]

M-Drol to kick-start test has been done quite a few times a while back but I haven't seen it recently. I wouldn't mind giving it a shot either. P-Plex would also be great for a kickstart too. :food:

I did a kickstart with the original SD for a test cyp 250 cycle.It was my first test cycle that's why it was so low.The SD was 20mg for four weeks.No lethargy no back pumps.I just finished with a test cyp 500mg and did a kick start with dbol at 30mg.

 

[TimberLakers]

I did a kickstart with the original SD for a test cyp 250 cycle.It was my first test cycle that's why it was so low.The SD was 20mg for four weeks.No lethargy no back pumps.I just finished with a test cyp 500mg and did a kick start with dbol at 30mg.

Jesus, four weeks is pretty gnarly for 20mg.

Gains were intense I trust?

 

[KgTomCat]

sorry guys, but this is a forum...everyone has different opinions on certain things so its hard to get the 'straight forward' answer, everyone is different

 

[Disturbed]

Jesus, four weeks is pretty gnarly for 20mg.

Gains were intense I trust?

Yea gains were great.I had people in the gym asking what I took during that cycle months after I had finished it.Four weeks is hard but very common.Usually if I stay at 20mg I won't have any problems.I've done SD a few times and never had back pumps.Lethargy has been an issue on some of the four week cycles but that was when I would go 30mg.No need to go that high.Also I had really crazy dreams with SD.Anyone else?

 

[TimberLakers]

Yea gains were great.I had people in the gym asking what I took during that cycle months after I had finished it.Four weeks is hard but very common.Usually if I stay at 20mg I won't have any problems.I've done SD a few times and never had back pumps.Lethargy has been an issue on some of the four week cycles but that was when I would go 30mg.No need to go that high.Also I had really crazy dreams with SD.Anyone else?

Couple buddies on here had crazy dreams on SD... How f*cking crazy is that. The mind is an incredible thing.

 

[metroba]

higher testosterone will def give you some wacky dreams.

 

[ThisGuy2]

higher testosterone will def give you some wacky dreams.

kudos on another great avi, dude.

 

[Disturbed]

Well I've heard of Tren dreams but yea a buddy of mine had a crazy dreams on SD too.

 

[ThisGuy2]

IMO, I would use the Mdrol like a dbol kick in a test cycle. You only run the Dbol for the first 4 weeks then you just let the test do it's thing...

well, I am gonna run the mdrol and let it kick in the hdrol... there is no bridge... I am gonna be running the hdrol from day one, just a low dose... so technically there would be no downtime because the first 2 weeks of nonexistant hdrol gains would be compensated by the 2 week mdrol burst.

Eh, my liver can take it... he know's who's boss. It's not like I am talking about halotestin.

I only wish I could hit this one up with you. I don't think monetarily I'll be able to hit it in October. Probably have to wait until november or december.

 

[TimberLakers]

I only wish I could hit this one up with you. I don't think monetarily I'll be able to hit it in October. Probably have to wait until november or december.

I'm going to start an underprivledged steriod scholarship - need based. Mostly for people to run **** with me.

 

[TimberLakers]

Legs

Back Squats
10*135, 6*185, 5*225 PR, 4*225, 4*225, 9*185

I tried to keep my warm up work light so I could f*ck up 225. I would love to get 225 up 10 to 12 times. I don't think I'm going to go much higher if at all.

Leg Press - Calf
3*15*225

Standing Calf
3*18*240

Leg Extensions
15*100, 12*120, 10*140

Leg Curls
15*100, 12*120, 8*140

Bicep Work - Traditional Curls
10*40, 8*50, 6*60, 2*18*20

EZ Bar French Press
3*12*85

Tricep Push Down
15*40, 3*85, 8*60, 10*50, 8*40

 

[metroba]

yo timber you got pics up somewhere?

 

[TimberLakers]

I took these two weeks pre-cycle... I'll repost them with afters.

 

[metroba]

Back looks thick bro!! no fronts? (homo x a billion)

 

[TimberLakers]

Oooh baby. (no homo)

 

[TimberLakers]

Back looks thick bro!! no fronts? (homo x a billion)

This is kind of embarrassing, but I didn't start working on my back ever until about 6 weeks ago... So that's all from boxing. I have GMG to thank for my back program.

 

[Ziquor]

I'm going to start an underprivledged steriod scholarship - need based. Mostly for people to run **** with me.

I started the AA Steroid Fund a while back. It's been helping athletes win medals all over the world.

 

[TimberLakers]

I started a similar fund for highschool cheerleaders... but all doses are given orally.

 

[Ziquor]

I started a similar fund for highschool cheerleaders... but all doses are given orally.

Haha, hopefully they're taking liver support since oral only dosing can be quite harsh on their liver.

 

[TimberLakers]

Haha, hopefully they're taking liver support since oral only dosing can be quite harsh on their liver.

not to mention their esophagus.

 

[DAdams91982]

not to mention their esophagus.

Blowin out the vocal cords like superman on some clomid.

Adams

 

[TimberLakers]

Blowin out the vocal cords like superman on some clomid.

Adams

Superman is on some good juice for sure... X Ray vision!?!? I mean, COME ON...

 

[DAdams91982]

Superman is on some good juice for sure... X Ray vision!?!? I mean, COME ON...

You dont watch TV... Bud light does that.

Adams

 

[GMG760]

I only wish I could hit this one up with you. I don't think monetarily I'll be able to hit it in October. Probably have to wait until november or december.

I'm down to sponsor you TG2! I'll make it a business write off somehow.:think:

 

[thundergod]

higher testosterone will def give you some wacky dreams.

So will your avatars metroba!! Damn, you always find the hottest babes for your avatars!! My testosterone is rising right now!! :lol:

 

[ThisGuy2]

I'm going to start an underprivledged steriod scholarship - need based. Mostly for people to run **** with me.

Fantastic!! :lol: I officially sign up to receive the first endowment.

 

[ThisGuy2]

I'm down to sponsor you TG2! I'll make it a business write off somehow.:think:

Sponsorship?? That's even better!! I can see it now, "And now, this cycle brought to you by G-mack." We can even come up with like a logo, and some jingle music!
:toofunny:

 

[Ziquor]

So will your avatars metroba!! Damn, you always find the hottest babes for your avatars!! My testosterone is rising right now!! :lol:

No doubt Thunder. They say when you sleep at night you grow, but for me it's Metroba's avy's that make me grow at night :thumbsup:

 

[TimberLakers]

Sponsorship?? That's even better!! I can see it now, "And now, this cycle brought to you by G-mack." We can even come up with like a logo, and some jingle music!
:toofunny:

Perhaps GMG and I can co sponsor. You have to write "TimberLakers Sponsored Roid Head" in black sharpie on your before and after pics, and include it in your thread name... I'll throw in $100 and ship the supps to you directly from NP.com.

 

[metroba]

Arms are thick bro! And thanks guys for the avi comps. As long as Im here I promise to keep it sexeh!:chick:

 

[kraftkid]

Good dude, stop going to GNC. LOL. If you ever post anything about going to GNC again, the chastisement will not cease!

Ouch, never admit to a trip to GNC! Actually to be honest, when I go to the mall and am nearby I love to stop in that toolshed and listen to the advice some of those cats try to push on people. Sometimes it is absolutley hilarious!

 

[TimberLakers]

Ouch, never admit to a trip to GNC! Actually to be honest, when I go to the mall and am nearby I love to stop in that toolshed and listen to the advice some of those cats try to push on people. Sometimes it is absolutley hilarious!

Haha, it was a LOOOONG time ago buddy...

Tell you what, even if I go back once in awhile for some emergency whey or fish oil - they will try to tell me how ON sucks, and I should get this awesome anabolic whey from GNC brand for 60 bucks per 2 pounds..

I'm just like - ring it up fatty.

 

[Ziquor]

Haha, it was a LOOOONG time ago buddy...

Tell you what, even if I go back once in awhile for some emergency whey or fish oil - they will try to tell me how ON sucks, and I should get this awesome anabolic whey from GNC brand for 60 bucks per 2 pounds..

I'm just like - ring it up fatty.

The funniest thing about that, is ON makes GNC's whey HAHAHAHA. They're idiots.

 

[GMG760]

Ouch, never admit to a trip to GNC! Actually to be honest, when I go to the mall and am nearby I love to stop in that toolshed and listen to the advice some of those cats try to push on people. Sometimes it is absolutley hilarious!

It's like a re-run on television and my jokes are still funny. :lol:

 

[GMG760]

Legs

Back Squats
10*135, 6*185, 5*225 PR, 4*225, 4*225, 9*185

I tried to keep my warm up work light so I could f*ck up 225. I would love to get 225 up 10 to 12 times. I don't think I'm going to go much higher if at all.

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ok, back squats are just called squats homie.

You're gonna stay at 225? just like you were only gonna run one designer...

Of course you are gonna push more foo! Just like we are gonna run this mdrol/hdrol cycle in october.

:head:

 

[DAdams91982]

ok, back squats are just called squats homie.

You're gonna stay at 225? just like you were only gonna run one designer...

Of course you are gonna push more foo! Just like we are gonna run this mdrol/hdrol cycle in october.

:head:

I agree... next week squeeze two more reps outta that *****. Dose an extra RPM and DO IT.

Adams

 

[GMG760]

Perhaps GMG and I can co sponsor. You have to write "TimberLakers Sponsored Roid Head" in black sharpie on your before and after pics, and include it in your thread name... I'll throw in $100 and ship the supps to you directly from NP.com.

I'll match it. That should easily cover the mdrol/hdrol for the cycle and most of the support supps. You gotta get your own SERM though, I can't make that work at my accountant... maybe Timber could figure out a way, he does this kinda sh!t on a day to day basis. We gotta come up with a name for our organization though.

 

[DAdams91982]

I'll match it. That should easily cover the mdrol/hdrol for the cycle and most of the support supps. You gotta get your own SERM though, I can't make that work at my accountant... maybe Timber could figure out a way, he does this kinda sh!t on a day to day basis. We gotta come up with a name for our organization though.

From what I see around here... steer clear of anything with doom in it. :lol:

Adams

 

[thundergod]

From what I see around here... steer clear of anything with doom in it. :lol:

Adams

That's really not funny bro.....and the whole thing should be dropped!! Let's all try to be mature around here for a change!! Thanks!! :thumbsup:

 

[kraftkid]

I wonder what it's like to try to read through the 13 pages that is the intro to our cycles without being here from the start... we are some looney ****ers...

If you want to know, i will tell you. I am half way thru. This has cost me about an hour of my life (when you add in "gay tank top"), lots of talk of red heads, sweaty balls, etc, etc.

I think you all for bringing this joy into my life. I no longer think I am the most ****ed up person in the room!!!

Good ****!

PS - This guy is a little bit like Jean Claude.......:bruce3: