The Official OL UK Ghar1ne Q&A

crowbar46 said:
Your plan looks solid. However, remember you're probably not going to able to avoid some degree of lethargy, at least for a while.

Yes, MK works even better in younger subjects than it does in older ones.
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This doesn't need to be replied to, but I just wanted to thank you overall for your useful anecdotal feedback in this thread and the cardarine thread. Your posts mean a lot to me. Haha.
 
Just wanted to notify the individuals on this thread that I will be logging my gharine usage, I opened a thread in the supplement logs forum and it will get started with some "before" pictures at some point today and my first dose of gharine will be either tonight or tomorrow morning. Haven't decided how I want to start yet. If you wanna tag along go check it out.
 
this isn't related to Ghar1ne, but just lethargy in general...I took 1-2 tbls of MCT oil and it gave me energy and alertness throughout the day, and it even gave me insomnia when I took it before bed. It's usually an ingredient in bulletproof coffee, though I take it solo. Try mixing it with a preworkout like I do. I usually wake up at 3am and can even sleep until 12am, tossing and turning in bed since 7pm.

It's odd, I don't get deep sleep with Ghar1ne, pretty much waking up every hour, but I wake up refreshed. If I were too guess, I think I'm getting around 4-5 hours of actual sleep. And it's only been happening since I started taking it with no change of diet or sleeping patterns. I don't know if there's any long term side effects of not getting the 8 hours in, but I feel fine getting less.

other stuff I take in morning:
-NOW Foods NAC (2 caps after workout)
-SNS Noopept XT (2 caps upon waking)
-Analyzed Supplements Target-A2 (1 cap upon waking)

maybe it's a combo of all these brain supps that's keeping me awake lol
 
nump said:
this isn't related to Ghar1ne, but just lethargy in general...I took 1-2 tbls of MCT oil and it gave me energy and alertness throughout the day, and it even gave me insomnia when I took it before bed. It's usually an ingredient in bulletproof coffee, though I take it solo. Try mixing it with a preworkout like I do. I usually wake up at 3am and can even sleep until 12am, tossing and turning in bed since 7pm.

It's odd, I don't get deep sleep with Ghar1ne, pretty much waking up every hour, but I wake up refreshed. If I were too guess, I think I'm getting around 4-5 hours of actual sleep. And it's only been happening since I started taking it with no change of diet or sleeping patterns. I don't know if there's any long term side effects of not getting the 8 hours in, but I feel fine getting less.

other stuff I take in morning:
-NOW Foods NAC (2 caps after workout)
-SNS Noopept XT (2 caps upon waking)
-Analyzed Supplements Target-A2 (1 cap upon waking)

maybe it's a combo of all these brain supps that's keeping me awake lol
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Target always gave me a strong and steady stim response
 
Anyone else experiencing strength gainz on ghar1ne?i m on week 3 at 10mg pre bed.lethargy and bloat is there but im really getting stronger.
 
All I know is my hunger is insaaaaane. I'm one to snack, but this is definitely very amplified. Highly recommend if you're looking to bulk.
 
MidwestBeast said:
All I know is my hunger is insaaaaane. I'm one to snack, but this is definitely very amplified. Highly recommend if you're looking to bulk.
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Good thing I've already been bulking for 9 weeks took my first gharine dose last night!
 
I'm selling my sealed ghar1ne I purchased last month. Was gonna start it around now but have decided my recomp is going too well I don't want to introduce or change a single thing.. It's up in the auction thread
 
Just started dosing 10mg last week. Does MK 677 have any mood elevation properties? I am experiencing a nice calm sense of being. Or could my general happiness indicate the start of football season ?
 
MangoMani said:
Just started dosing 10mg last week. Does MK 677 have any mood elevation properties? I am experiencing a nice calm sense of being. Or could my general happiness indicate the start of football season ��
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If your team loses and your still calm you have your answer ;)
 
Aynone run this on a cut? I see increase in hunger which I am worried about when cutting. Looking at using the Mass GH + ostarine
 
jaredmus said:
Aynone run this on a cut? I see increase in hunger which I am worried about when cutting. Looking at using the Mass GH + ostarine
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I will be but just haven't really been strict yet lol. Needless to say it would make that difficult. I often have long periods of not wanting to eat, but that has not been the case these past 2 weeks.
 
it's still hard for me to fall asleep on this so I bought some Growth Factor XT and see how it goes...
 
Any chance this could go in a transdermal solution and have any site specific effects? Healing specifically.
 
Cool said:
Any chance this could go in a transdermal solution and have any site specific effects? Healing specifically.
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MK677 has too high of a molecular weight to be absorbed transdermally. And even if it could, considering its mechanism of action, it wouldn't have site specific healing properties.

On another note, my Uncle, Aunt and Mother have all started Ghar1ne at 10mg per night, and none have noticed lethargy, numbness, or increased hunger. I find this interesting. They all suffer from a diverse range of issues, injuries, so on. I have really high hopes that Ghar1ne can help them at least experience less day to day pain.
 
Hastur said:
MK677 has too high of a molecular weight to be absorbed transdermally. And even if it could, considering its mechanism of action, it wouldn't have site specific healing properties.

On another note, my Uncle, Aunt and Mother have all started Ghar1ne at 10mg per night, and none have noticed lethargy, numbness, or increased hunger. I find this interesting. They all suffer from a diverse range of issues, injuries, so on. I have really high hopes that Ghar1ne can help them at least experience less day to day pain.
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My mother is using it as well 10mg pre bed with great results. Post menapausal
 
Hastur said:
MK677 has too high of a molecular weight to be absorbed transdermally. And even if it could, considering its mechanism of action, it wouldn't have site specific healing properties.

On another note, my Uncle, Aunt and Mother have all started Ghar1ne at 10mg per night, and none have noticed lethargy, numbness, or increased hunger. I find this interesting. They all suffer from a diverse range of issues, injuries, so on. I have really high hopes that Ghar1ne can help them at least experience less day to day pain.
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Very interested in seeing their results. Hope it works out for them;)
 
You guys got me wanting to try to convince my family to hop on the gainz train... Invalid Link Removed
 
Lil over a month on gharine and I stopped hup a for few days n I'm starting back again, I def like it with hup a more better sleep.
also lethargy bloating dropped around week 3.
 
I tried 10 last night and I had crazy dreams but I could wake up instantly when I wanted and could go sleep and dream again quickly. Felt strange ha. today I had cotton mouth so far and some tingles around my forehead and eyes. No lethargy yet knock on wood
 
muay thai said:
My mother is using it as well 10mg pre bed with great results. Post menapausal
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Which is awesome to hear, my family is doing the same, less than a week in. Again, I find their lack of lethargy, hunger, bloating or water retention interesting, but it is only 10mg right now.

edje007 said:
Very interested in seeing their results. Hope it works out for them;)
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I will definitely report! Thanks!

BamBam0319 said:
You guys got me wanting to try to convince my family to hop on the gainz train... Invalid Link Removed
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Haha, my family isn't so much on the 'gainz train' as much as they are just trying to stave off old age!
 
So life gainz.... Still gainz. ;)
 
Maybe your family members aren't noticing the bloat because they aren't as obsessed with their image as most of us here are? It's still strange how they aren't getting any lethargy though.
 
rascal14 said:
Maybe your family members aren't noticing the bloat because they aren't as obsessed with their image as most of us here are? It's still strange how they aren't getting any lethargy though.
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That's a good observation, as older adults they really aren't as preoccupied with their appearances quite as much as the other users on this board. However, I did tell them to be on the look for specifically for bloat, water retention, numb hands, lethargy and increased hunger. So far, just under a week in, at 10mg per day, not a single one has reported any of these sides. Now, they are older, 50's-60's, and it is a lower dosage, a mere 10mg. I don't want to recommend increasing the dosage just yet, as I never was a fan of side effects dictating effectiveness, the studies say their should still be an increase in Growth Hormone and IGF-1 at dosages as low as 5mg. So I'm confident it's working.
 
I too am at just under a week of ghar1ne and haven't experienced any sides yet either. However I am already bloated and hungry so those could be present, just masked by what is already happening.
 
Read somewhere that it works better in younger people than older so maybe why they don't see many of the sides.
For me taking 10 at noon and then 10 with dinner works well. Hungry at dinner after my workout and crash at bedtime.
 
For anyone skeptical about hup a and mk677 NewAgeMayan I think it's a must at least give it a try, the reason why I said that is i stopped hup a for few days then started again and here is what I noticed:
1- pump was reduced before and after I started again on hup a I can do a warm up and pump get intense.
2-sleep is deeper while on hup a and less waking up through the night.
so that lead me to believe that hup a do help with pulses etc.
I could be wrong tho.
 
That sounds great man, glad it has panned out for you.

Im actually worried what hup-a may do to my bp and hr, amongst other things.
 
Hi i'm up to check out my cart, I would to like to have your opinion about MK677 dosing, my goal is to build muscle and try to heal my joints
I will probably run 12 weeks of 25mg ED of Ostarine and I don't know if I should run 10 or 20mg of GHAR1NE ED ?

I read somewhere that some people do 5 days ON of MK677, 2 day OFF etc

Last question, what about the date of consuption of the pills, I would probably check out this month and start my cycle in january, that's fine ?
Thanks for your answers !
 
Hastur said:
That's a good observation, as older adults they really aren't as preoccupied with their appearances quite as much as the other users on this board. However, I did tell them to be on the look for specifically for bloat, water retention, numb hands, lethargy and increased hunger. So far, just under a week in, at 10mg per day, not a single one has reported any of these sides. Now, they are older, 50's-60's, and it is a lower dosage, a mere 10mg. I don't want to recommend increasing the dosage just yet, as I never was a fan of side effects dictating effectiveness, the studies say their should still be an increase in Growth Hormone and IGF-1 at dosages as low as 5mg. So I'm confident it's working.
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Hastur, a prudent approach. I will say, that at 54, I didn't really feel the 10 Mg. dose. Having said that, you're right, the research does show doses as low as 5mg. eliciting an effect. Whether at that dose the increase in GH and IGF-1 would be sufficient to induce any positive changes is impossible to say, but I think your approach makes sense in the context.
 
Crazy dreams, almost lucid, every single night since first starting gharine... I am almost a week in, though.
 
Just started hup-A yesterday (after being just over 2 weeks in). I'll see if I can tell any differences.
 
Maybe already mentioned but, is there anything that can offset bloat?
 
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