The New Product Release Thread

mase1 said:
Any thoughts on current virus and inflammation from ara?
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There's this, but haven't seen much else. Also, this comes with the caveats that it's an opinion article and he seems to gloss right over the potential cons and only elaborates on the pros. Invalid Link Removed
 
Resolve10 said:
Anyone looked at the new formula of Inspired's Ember? I liked the original, but the new one looks a bit better to me. It follows the current trend of what tons of the powdered fat burners look like right now, but still think it could be a pretty decent boost. Was supposed to release today but looks pushed back until the end of the month. I may pick some up.

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It would be interesting to see if the Kanna overpowers the stims on the calm front. Never used it personally but supposed to be pretty potent on the calm/stress/mood side of things.
 
aaronuconn said:
Was this in response to something I said lol? Or just a general statement? I’m aware of everything you said.
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lol no was a general statement to pple bringing age up w. usage of ara .. quoted u by mistake
 
_Endure_ said:
It would be interesting to see if the Kanna overpowers the stims on the calm front. Never used it personally but supposed to be pretty potent on the calm/stress/mood side of things.
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I’ve never found Kanna to overpower stimulants, even in more moderately stimmed products. It’s good for mood and stress, but I don’t find it really negatively impacts subjective stimulating feelings. It’s maybe hard to explain, but I find it has less of a stim-blunting effect than Theanine, which can sometimes take the “edge” off stimulants when you take enough of it.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I’ve never found Kanna to overpower stimulants, even in more moderately stimmed products. It’s good for mood and stress, but I don’t find it really negatively impacts subjective stimulating feelings. It’s maybe hard to explain, but I find it has less of a stim-blunting effect than Theanine, which can sometimes take the “edge” off stimulants when you take enough of it.
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How does it compare to Picamilon? If you tried that back in the day
 
muscleupcrohn said:
It's been ages since I've used picamilon, and I don't even recall what PWOs I used it in, how strong they were, and what other stims they had, so it'd be hard to make an accurate comparison TBH.
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Hmm, this is an interesting comparison. I find Kanna slightly more euphoric but also weird in a way. At high doses, it has a specific feel- happy, relaxed, but also a body high. I don't find that it takes away any physical effects of stims. It doesnt' calm your heart rate or stop jitters. I actually feel more tweaked at small doses. Kanna makes a garden variety pre-workout interesting.

Picamillion i always found I liked but couldn't describe at all. It's not really that noticeable except for lower HR, less jitters, more calm. It also seemed like that "missing piece" that used to make pre workouts / fat burners shine. Kanna is definitely more noticeable.
 
Resolve10 said:
I agree here. At least Kannaease for me seems to pick me up more than calm me down, but not in a bad way.
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Seems to have the same effect on me. However, it's always been combined with other ingredients. Looking forward to trying it solo when SNS releases it in the near future.
 
jarrellt67 said:
Seems to have the same effect on me. However, it's always been combined with other ingredients. Looking forward to trying it solo when SNS releases it in the near future.
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SNS is releasing a Kanna supplement? That's cool. Until then, I know of a place to get very high quality kanna extract for cheap if you want to play around with it solo. :)
 
muscleupcrohn said:
SNS is releasing a Kanna supplement? That's cool. Until then, I know of a place to get very high quality kanna extract for cheap if you want to play around with it solo. :)
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I appreciate the offer but I've got a couple extracts now (Psycho Pharma Kanna-Z and LiftMode Kanna Extract). Still playing around with doses of those. I'm mainly interested in trying the kannaease extract next (I'm partial to patented extracts because you get consistant results).
 
Not sure if I missed it posted, but there's going to be a new G-Fuel Bubble Gum flavor. I'm not sure why more companies don't come out with this flavor. I don't know much about the product or the company, but the bubble gum flavor certainly has my attention.
 
jarrellt67 said:
I appreciate the offer but I've got a couple extracts now (Psycho Pharma Kanna-Z and LiftMode Kanna Extract). Still playing around with doses of those. I'm mainly interested in trying the kannaease extract next (I'm partial to patented extracts because you get consistant results).
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It is KannaEase, or at least the Afrigetics Kanna Extract that they call KannaEase in products. :)
 
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Hyde said:
Probably the coolest thing they’ve suggested in a minute. Not a lot of beef powders on the market.
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Here is why I would avoid beef proteins, and probably why a lot of companies do not produce them.

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most of beef protein powders contain mainly collagen and gelatin, thus they have a PDCAAS of zero.
Collagen and gelatin-loaded products are not beneficial for athletes and are not a significant source of protein.


Another massive difference is the amount of glycine in beef protein (beef protein isolate contains 20.1 grams of glycine, more than 14 times the amount of glycine in whey protein). Glycine is a filler amino acid added into products to cheapen the cost of the product

The whey product has much more of the essential amino acids and BCAAs (34.96 grams in whey vs. 19.4 grams in beef protein isolate per 100 g). The number of essential amino acids and BCAAs are what we really want to consider when we look at different sources of protein as athletes when it comes to determining what is best for our lifestyles


Collagen is not a complete protein source and is high in glycine, proline, arginine, and hydroxyproline. All these labels are just fancy words for what beef protein really is: collagen, gelatin, and leftover scraps.
 
The Solution said:
Here is why I would avoid beef proteins, and probably why a lot of companies do not produce them.

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most of beef protein powders contain mainly collagen and gelatin, thus they have a PDCAAS of zero.
Collagen and gelatin-loaded products are not beneficial for athletes and are not a significant source of protein.


Another massive difference is the amount of glycine in beef protein (beef protein isolate contains 20.1 grams of glycine, more than 14 times the amount of glycine in whey protein). Glycine is a filler amino acid added into products to cheapen the cost of the product

The whey product has much more of the essential amino acids and BCAAs (34.96 grams in whey vs. 19.4 grams in beef protein isolate per 100 g). The number of essential amino acids and BCAAs are what we really want to consider when we look at different sources of protein as athletes when it comes to determining what is best for our lifestyles


Collagen is not a complete protein source and is high in glycine, proline, arginine, and hydroxyproline. All these labels are just fancy words for what beef protein really is: collagen, gelatin, and leftover scraps.
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Seems like the perfect reason for Primeval to jump in. They are trying hard to bring low quality everything these days
 
The Solution said:
Here is why I would avoid beef proteins, and probably why a lot of companies do not produce them.

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most of beef protein powders contain mainly collagen and gelatin, thus they have a PDCAAS of zero.
Collagen and gelatin-loaded products are not beneficial for athletes and are not a significant source of protein.


Another massive difference is the amount of glycine in beef protein (beef protein isolate contains 20.1 grams of glycine, more than 14 times the amount of glycine in whey protein). Glycine is a filler amino acid added into products to cheapen the cost of the product

The whey product has much more of the essential amino acids and BCAAs (34.96 grams in whey vs. 19.4 grams in beef protein isolate per 100 g). The number of essential amino acids and BCAAs are what we really want to consider when we look at different sources of protein as athletes when it comes to determining what is best for our lifestyles


Collagen is not a complete protein source and is high in glycine, proline, arginine, and hydroxyproline. All these labels are just fancy words for what beef protein really is: collagen, gelatin, and leftover scraps.
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All of that, plus all the ones I've tried don't mix well and taste bad, are the reasons I avoid beef proteins. Haha but also, the way beef proteins are marketed has always been kind of a red flag with me, with one of the more popular ones claiming more or less "you're strongest when you eat steak " which in my experience isn't even necessarily true (I feel my strongest when I sleep well and consume a high amount of carbohydrates); but even if it was true, steak and beef based protein powder aren't exactly the same thing.
 
aaronuconn said:
You could probably PM Admin and get their thoughts on it. But yeah I’m under the impression you need to be a board sponsor to run logs as well
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Yea I’ve been approached to be one. I’m still thinking about it. Not to sure if I do yet.
 
ELROCK said:
What happened to the product Carved? It’s off your site now.
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We had problems flavoring it. It’s on the backend for now. We trying to figure it out.

Me and the team are still using it personally without flavor and just chug it down.

Label is amazing. Soon it’ll be out, once we finish up a few other products in the line-up
 
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abformulations said:
Yea I’ve been approached to be one. I’m still thinking about it. Not to sure if I do yet.
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Yeah you have to be a sponsor to offer log opps... if someone wanted to do an unsponsored log of a product of yours they could, but thats on each person to decide. If you're going to advertise your product at all on here (i.e. offering products to log), you'd have to be a sponsor. Otherwise you'll get the boot for advertising "under the table"
 
booneman77 said:
Yeah you have to be a sponsor to offer log opps... if someone wanted to do an unsponsored log of a product of yours they could, but thats on each person to decide. If you're going to advertise your product at all on here (i.e. offering products to log), you'd have to be a sponsor. Otherwise you'll get the boot for advertising "under the table"
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Got it. We appreciate it
 
TheMrMuscle said:
I know you like Peak02, what is your thought about having it in a pump product?
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While not directed at me, my unsolicited opinion is that Peak02 shouldn’t be in pump products. The only reason being is that I really enjoy it at the 4g dosage, and I’m sure that would not only be super expensive, but really throw off the taste also.
 
When a company only has 4 ingredients in their immunity product, you don't really expect them to screw it up by using zinc oxide...
 
_Endure_ said:
Another good greens supp. Nice to see some of these hitting lately. I eat plenty of veggies but the powder is a nice morning boost since no one really wants to wake up and eat a salad.
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Hopefully they actually put what’s on the label in it, unlike the massively-spiked protein they sold for years.

jarrellt67 said:
When a company only has 4 ingredients in their immunity product, you don't really expect them to screw it up by using zinc oxide...
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I wouldn’t trust Gaspari to create anything legitimate.

#peopledontforget
 
Resolve10 said:
I mean I understand that, but there is actual research showing Invalid Link Removed so it is one of those scenarios where sure 4g may be better, but at least when a company puts 2g in they aren't just sprinkling it in for namesake. I think the benefits of something like PeakO2 fall in line with pump products quite well, considering typically pump products tend to include ingredients that are increasing time to exhaustion, decreasing RPE, and VO2 max benefits.

Keep in mind dosing timeframe for PeakO2 doesn't tend to strictly matter (the 4g study often cited used 1.3g thrice per day).

I do think ideally it is used in a everyday type product, but we know people don't tend to buy those anyways so I selfishly appreciate it in certain products that way it just decreases the hassle of me having to use more in bulk (which I am still waiting on those SNS caps...).

Don't take this as me saying your opinion is wrong though as I fully can understand and partially agree with the thought.
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All good. And valid points.

I think 1-2g is good, I just feel a significant different from 2g to 4g. Placebo effect a bit? Potentially - I’m not above it. I originally tried Peak02 via an Xtend sale, and thought it was good. But now that I’ve been able to use it at 4g, I just feel a notable difference in physical (maybe even mental) endurance.

What I meant in my post was quite individualized to me. I like Peak02, just preferable at 4g pre-workout. I’m cognizant that’s not all to feasible (economically and taste wise), therefore I just prefer it out of the pre-workout in preference of a different ingredient.

But all good points from your end as usual! And hopefully no one interprets my post as saying 1-2g isn’t useful, because that’s not true.
 
Resolve10 said:
I mean I understand that, but there is actual research showing Invalid Link Removed so it is one of those scenarios where sure 4g may be better, but at least when a company puts 2g in they aren't just sprinkling it in for namesake. I think the benefits of something like PeakO2 fall in line with pump products quite well, considering typically pump products tend to include ingredients that are increasing time to exhaustion, decreasing RPE, and VO2 max benefits.

Keep in mind dosing timeframe for PeakO2 doesn't tend to strictly matter (the 4g study often cited used 1.3g thrice per day).

I do think ideally it is used in a everyday type product, but we know people don't tend to buy those anyways so I selfishly appreciate it in certain products that way it just decreases the hassle of me having to use more in bulk (which I am still waiting on those SNS caps...).

Don't take this as me saying your opinion is wrong though as I fully can understand and partially agree with the thought.
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All good. And valid points.

I think 1-2g is good, I just feel a significant different from 2g to 4g. Placebo effect a bit? Potentially - I’m not above it. I originally tried Peak02 via an Xtend sale, and thought it was good. But now that I’ve been able to use it at 4g, I just feel a notable difference in physical (maybe even mental) endurance.

What I meant in my post was quite individualized to me. I like Peak02, just preferable at 4g pre-workout. I’m cognizant that’s not all to feasible (economically and taste wise), therefore I just prefer it out of the pre-workout in preference of a different ingredient.

But all good points from your end as usual! And hopefully no one interprets my post as saying 1-2g isn’t useful, because that’s not true.
 
Fruity cereal flavor coming to primeval isolit soon

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