The New Product Release Thread

Says to only dose 5 days out of the week with 2 days off.

Yeah I wouldn't be doing that. At least when I am cutting. Cost effective for them I guess. I would still utilize another fat burner on top of that either am or pm depending on workout timing.
 
Yeah I wouldn't be doing that. At least when I am cutting. If I was just using it pre or something it would make more sense. Cost effective for them I guess.

I'm sure most won't, just speaking for what the bottle recommendation says, which would make sense why it is 22 servings.
 
I rarely pay attention to abstracts. I like full papers. I'm too lazy to go pull the track and field study, but it sounded good, till you read the paper. Also, the number of people taking 4g of BA is VERY limited. I'm not saying it's not of any value, but it's inclusion in pre workouts have zero to do with the performance data, it's all about the tingles. If it had no sensory impact, it would be a random ingredient hardly being used.

Everything is always good until you read the FT..
 
I hate beta alanine with a passion. The tingles, for whatever reason, make me irritable as the sensation bothers me. I also used it a ton while I was in the Marines in an attempt to better my endurance, which it did not help at all. So now anytime I see a pre workout with beta alanine I avoid it like a plague!
 
Saw this in my local shop here, and have not seen it posted. I have no idea the legitimacy of the company or these products, but the guy that owns the shop said its very strong, and blows away all of his DMAA containing stuff?

Has anyone else seen or used this?

Toying with the idea of giving the PRE a shot...

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Saw this in my local shop here, and have not seen it posted. I have no idea the legitimacy of the company or these products, but the guy that owns the shop said its very strong, and blows away all of his DMAA containing stuff?

Has anyone else seen or used this?

Toying with the idea of giving the PRE a shot...

First strike: I never buy/try a pre that does not disclose caffeine . Second strike: prop blend. 3rd strike: not a fan of the main ingredients (although I do like the inclusion of Fulvic Acid)
 
Saw this in my local shop here, and have not seen it posted. I have no idea the legitimacy of the company or these products, but the guy that owns the shop said its very strong, and blows away all of his DMAA containing stuff?

Has anyone else seen or used this?

Toying with the idea of giving the PRE a shot...

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LOL. About 20 ingredients at 3.7g prop blend. But it's legal. It's Pharma Legal!
 
Saw this in my local shop here, and have not seen it posted. I have no idea the legitimacy of the company or these products, but the guy that owns the shop said its very strong, and blows away all of his DMAA containing stuff?

Has anyone else seen or used this?

Toying with the idea of giving the PRE a shot...

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My former head personal trainer is touting that Kracked Out as his favorite preworkout on the market. Probably wouldn't be saying that if he'd ever taken up my offer to try out my Mesomorph or Conqu3r Unleashed...
 
Storefront brands that allow them to get away with some... Gray area ingredients
 
God I hate supplement names sometimes. In b4 stim pre-workout called Meth Mouth. And fat burner called Ov3rDos3.
 
God I hate supplement names sometimes. In b4 stim pre-workout called Meth Mouth. And fat burner called Ov3rDos3.

Lol Bostin Loyd's fat burner is called Krack too
 
Somebody come out with a GH boosting product and call it "Dick Sk1n" Olympus Labs
 
Sorry I may be way late and I'm sure it's been asked, but what's the deal with everyone re-releasing dmaa containing products? Will they be lifted from natural organizations banned substances lists possibly??
 
Sorry I may be way late and I'm sure it's been asked, but what's the deal with everyone re-releasing dmaa containing products? Will they be lifted from natural organizations banned substances lists possibly??
 
Sorry I may be way late and I'm sure it's been asked, but what's the deal with everyone re-releasing dmaa containing products? Will they be lifted from natural organizations banned substances lists possibly??

I highly doubt the ban on it from the NCAA, IOC and others is getting lifted.

The reason it's popping up all over is that Hi-Teh has taken the fight to the Feds over the "naturally occurring" basis that the FDA originally called into question an this banned it. Since hi-tech won their side of legal battle DMAA is back with a vengeance and other companies with huge legal budgets are willing to use it and fight the potential lawsuits or are purchasing it from Hi-Tech.
 
I highly doubt the ban on it from the NCAA, IOC and others is getting lifted.

The reason it's popping up all over is that Hi-Teh has taken the fight to the Feds over the "naturally occurring" basis that the FDA originally called into question an this banned it. Since hi-tech won their side of legal battle DMAA is back with a vengeance and other companies with huge legal budgets are willing to use it and fight the potential lawsuits or are purchasing it from Hi-Tech.

Did they win? Or is it just because the court battle is ongoing?
 
Shameless plug:

You may want to try Invictus by Iron Legion to help get your cortisol down and recover from the extended stim use.

Already using it :) i've posted about it in the invictus thread, using .5ml post workout out and .5 preworkout and knocking the f out that's the first thing i notice is huge sleep difference.
 
Already using it :) i've posted about it in the invictus thread, using .5ml post workout out and .5 preworkout and knocking the f out that's the first thing i notice is huge sleep difference.

I thought I recognized the screen name. Glad the product is helping you out!
 
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holy christ....

Looks good....looks real, real good...

Great Agmantine and L-Cit dose. Love the addition of LOLA too. Too bad I use stim free PWO now

Thanks for posting and thanks for the kind words guys.

The previous version was solid, but at a single scoop, did not provide enough BA or CM in a single scoop. Now, all that is needed for the stim effect people love and a great pump, is a single scoop. When the reps sampled this, I was skeptical of only using one scoop as I take 1.5 of HyperMax XT. I did not need more than one scoop of this.

I also like the addition of l-tyrosine. I personally respond well to it.
 
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