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The New Product Release Thread

Big Papi said:
what's the verdict on theacrine? anyone use it alone or with controlled variables?
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Based on my limited experience with theacrine, I'd say it's underwhelming. First, replacing caffeine with an equal dose (in mg) of theacrine in my daily energy/focus stack did not seem as effective as caffeine, and adding theacrine to caffeine and other stimulants doesn't seem to be any more effective (possibly not even as effective) as just adding an equal amount of caffeine. Given the price of theacrine relative to caffeine (and even other stimulants), it just doesn't seem worth the price IMO. I'm pretty sure I remember kisaj saying he wasn't a fan either.
 
Oh My

Chocolate Cream Carb Killa.

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Almost six months later Grenade has now given its US followers a much needed second option with Chocolate Cream Carb Killa.
 
Alex281 said:
They are being manufactured by the same brand..
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The_Old_Guy said:
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cubs1987 said:
What the hell...
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Chefdeez said:
Honestly companies do this because unfortunately the majority of supplement consumers aren't as well-versed in this stuff as we are. Aka this stuff sells.
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Woody said:
Wtf is that?
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NewAgeMayan said:
By what criteria is that product able to be called a SARM or contain SARMy ingredients
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Driven2lift said:
At least its not an herbal SERM ...
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ma70 said:
Ostarene....LMFAO. So stupid....
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Alex281 said:
It's a Hi-tech's world..
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Woody said:
Wonder what the justification for the name and SARM will be.
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Gwyndane said:
profit > all
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for what it's worth, I am not a fan of utilizing this name for this product.


I stand behind using the names 1-testosterone, superdrol, 1-ad, and the other ones we use, because we're able to replicate/mimic the actions of those products to an appreciable degree.


This product however, bares no resemblance to what its name refers to. I think the formula is solid, but I don't for the life of me understand why it was given this name.
 
VaughnTrue said:
for what it's worth, I am not a fan of utilizing this name for this product.


I stand behind using the names 1-testosterone, superdrol, 1-ad, and the other ones we use, because we're able to replicate/mimic the actions of those products to an appreciable degree.


This product however, bares no resemblance to what its name refers to. I think the formula is solid, but I don't for the life of me understand why it was given this name.
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most likely it given this name for one specific reason and so far it is doing what they hoped it would do- generate publicity for free
 
smith_69 said:
most likely it given this name for one specific reason and so far it is doing what they hoped it would do- generate publicity for free
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well yea... I mean I "know" why they named it what they did.

Doesn't mean I have to like it though.
 
VaughnTrue said:
for what it's worth, I am not a fan of utilizing this name for this product.


I stand behind using the names 1-testosterone, superdrol, 1-ad, and the other ones we use, because we're able to replicate/mimic the actions of those products to an appreciable degree.


This product however, bares no resemblance to what its name refers to. I think the formula is solid, but I don't for the life of me understand why it was given this name.
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It's pretty obvious, to me at least, why they used that name.

Really not a fan of the names you guys give products. Just being honest.
 
Misfit28 said:
It's pretty obvious, to me at least, why they used that name.

Really not a fan of the names you guys give products. Just being honest.
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like I said, I understand why they did, but I don't like it on this product.


For the other products, I can understand why someone would not like them, however I can also completely understand/approve of why we did use them.

This instance is apples and oranges though when compared to the other products.

1-testosterone = the active converts to that compound, seems applicable to me.
Superdrol = the formula will give users gains in the same realm as superdrol(ie 15lbs+)
1-ad = the active converts first to 1-ad(the original), makes sense on my end.



with this product however not containing a SARM, and not providing SARM like gains, I think it could have been named something else and been more positively accepted.
 
VaughnTrue said:
well yea... I mean I "know" why they named it what they did.

Doesn't mean I have to like it though.
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oh don't get me wrong your right 100% I agree with you and everyone here
 
with all that I said already said...


I do think its pretty cool that the only knock Hi-Tech and its companies are getting right now is that people don't like our product names(now that labels have been updated, I don't see that complaint anymore haha). Out of all the potential issues with a product:

1. effectiveness
2. price
3. flavor
4. everything else under the sun


if the biggest gripe is a product name, I'd say it sounds like Hi-Tech is doing pretty damn well with its product offerings.
 
Are companies recalling products for labeling them as dietary supplements when they aren't? How does labeling something as a SARM when it's not apply? Admin Law isn't my forte
 
I mean. Naming something Superdrol is one thing. Saying something is a SARM when it's not is a completely different. How does that meet label claims?
 
Woody said:
Are companies recalling products for labeling them as dietary supplements when they aren't? How does labeling something as a SARM when it's not apply? Admin Law isn't my forte
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Woody said:
I mean. Naming something Superdrol is one thing. Saying something is a SARM when it's not is a completely different. How does that meet label claims?
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I would assume there is an argument that one of the ingredients works through selective androgen receptor modulation, albeit not a synthetic SARM. I'm not sure which ingredient that is being claimed on though however
 
Woody said:
Are companies recalling products for labeling them as dietary supplements when they aren't? How does labeling something as a SARM when it's not apply? Admin Law isn't my forte
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the first pebble that creates the ripple effect-

The Lanham Act
 
VaughnTrue said:
with all that I said already said...


I do think its pretty cool that the only knock Hi-Tech and its companies are getting right now is that people don't like our product names(now that labels have been updated, I don't see that complaint anymore haha). Out of all the potential issues with a product:

1. effectiveness
2. price
3. flavor
4. everything else under the sun


if the biggest gripe is a product name, I'd say it sounds like Hi-Tech is doing pretty damn well with its product offerings.
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Did you update the "Superdrol" (or other prop blends) label? Cuz if it's still a prop blend, that's another knock against you. Price? How much is it for 3 weeks?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Did you update the "Superdrol" (or other prop blends) label? Cuz if it's still a prop blend, that's another knock against you. Price? How much is it for 3 weeks?
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ok, so you dislike prop blends. I dislike prop blends. When Hi-Tech is the only company in the world using them, then it's an official gripe about Hi-Tech, and not the supplement industry in general.


Superdrol is a 3-6 week cycle in 1 bottle, 1-2 pills/day. If you wanted to run a 6 week cycle at 2/day you would need 2 bottles.
 
VaughnTrue said:
ok, so you dislike prop blends. I dislike prop blends. When Hi-Tech is the only company in the world using them, then it's an official gripe about Hi-Tech, and not the supplement industry in general.


Superdrol is a 3-6 week cycle in 1 bottle, 1-2 pills/day. If you wanted to run a 6 week cycle at 2/day you would need 2 bottles.
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If you care to disclose the mg amount of the 4-AD and 1-Andro, I may lay off the 42 cap ball busting :) If it was just those two, it would be 150.1mg of 4-AD, and 149.9mg if 1-Andro - 1 Cap a day???? But you then have 5 additional ingredients taking away from the first two. I think a lot of eggs are being put in the Liposomal delivery basket if you ask me :D
 
The_Old_Guy said:
If you care to disclose the mg amount of the 4-AD and 1-Andro, I may lay off the 42 cap ball busting :) If it was just those two, it would be 150.1mg of 4-AD, and 149.9mg if 1-Andro - 1 Cap a day???? But you then have 5 additional ingredients taking away from the first two. I think a lot of eggs are being put in the Liposomal delivery basket if you ask me :D
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300mg/pill. The 6oxo-delta4 is dosed VERY low, as it is potent at much lower levels than the other ingredients in the list.

If we could have fit 100 pills in there and made it affordable, we would have. This product is extremely expensive to produce(there is a reason companies aren't selling the andros in 300mg/pill doses...no one woul dbe able to afford the product), and as such we couldn't go to our usual 60 cap and keep the same price point.

And yea... a lot of eggs are being put in the Cyclosome delivery(not liposomal, but pharmaceutical blend of both liposomal and cyclo delivery)...so many eggs in fact that Hi-Tech bought an entire pharmaceutical company JUST for the machinery needed to made this delivery system. Our logger reviews on here are showing just how potent it is. 200mg of the 1-andro has people with 9-16.8lbs gained in just 4 weeks

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logs on 1-testosterone and superdrol will be shipped out as soon as we have our winners selected
 
I'm just waiting for a company to release "Protene" - 5g of protein and 20g of taurine, glycine, and creatine (prop blend of course) per scoop!
 
cubs1987 said:
reminds me of how ALRI Humapro is marketed...
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which actually was completely changed when Hi-Tech bought ALRI. I disliked their marketing on it when saying it = protein.


The studies they got their claims from however are damn cool. Have you checked out any of the research on "Master Amino Project"?
 
VaughnTrue said:
which actually was completely changed when Hi-Tech bought ALRI. I disliked their marketing on it when saying it = protein.


The studies they got their claims from however are damn cool. Have you checked out any of the research on "Master Amino Project"?
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Awhile back I looked at a few of the info published, but I'll be honest, I have not recently looked. Just to be clear I actually really like Humapro, and the apple cider is amazing (now if I could just afford it every month)
 
cubs1987 said:
Awhile back I looked at a few of the info published, but I'll be honest, I have not recently looked. Just to be clear I actually really like Humapro, and the apple cider is amazing (now if I could just afford it every month)
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the price on it is crazy. That's the only reason I don't have it in my monthly rotation right now on rep orders.
 
Full details on MusclePharm Thrive Plant protein released:

been in the works for awhile I know, but still surprised releasing this with all of the recent leadership/legal drama

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VaughnTrue said:
with all that I said already said...


I do think its pretty cool that the only knock Hi-Tech and its companies are getting right now is that people don't like our product names(now that labels have been updated, I don't see that complaint anymore haha). Out of all the potential issues with a product:

1. effectiveness
2. price
3. flavor
4. everything else under the sun


if the biggest gripe is a product name, I'd say it sounds like Hi-Tech is doing pretty damn well with its product offerings.
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Sadly even if a product is priced well, works effectively and everything else is solid, people will find something to knit pick. Whether it is the name, label, graphics, color or the argument that the product isn't original. It is sad when people have to focus on the small, insignificant things to bad mouth a product or brand.
 
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BodyWar - AlphaWar

One of the few international names to make some noise last year with a long list of new supplements was the Australian brand Body War

It features a total of 13 different ingredients, most, if not all of which you will have come across before. Some of the testosterone booster’s familiar faces are 400mg of velvet bean, 250mg horny goat weed, 200mg fenugreek and as always 5mg of BioPerine black pepper.

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VaughnTrue said:
I would assume there is an argument that one of the ingredients works through selective androgen receptor modulation, albeit not a synthetic SARM. I'm not sure which ingredient that is being claimed on though however
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The most likely ingredient, as far as I can tell, is the Diosterol.

Whether it could properly be classed a SARM will likely depend on how flexible one is with their definition :D
 
chedapalooza said:
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Dropping March 31 according to Facebook... Any CL reps got the beans to spill?
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They're holding a 3-part contest for some free giveaways of it right now. I was one of the winners for Part 1, and they just started Part 2 :) they have the ingredient information in the contest pages too!
 
BamBam0319 said:
They're holding a 3-part contest for some free giveaways of it right now. I was one of the winners for Part 1, and they just started Part 2 :) they have the ingredient information in the contest pages too!
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Serving Size: 3 Tablets
Servings Per Container: 10

Amount Per Serving %DV *
Niacin 10 mg 50%


Inflammation Health
Boswellia Serrata (Extracted for 65% Boswellic Acids) 600 mg **
Turmeric Root Powder (Curcuma longa) 500 mg **

Cardio Health
Garlic Bulb Powder 600 mg **

Urological Health
Cranberry Fruit Extract 500 mg **

Digestion Health
Ginger Root Powder 200 mg **
Bifidobacterium Lactis Complex 3.2 billion CFU+ **
Bifidobacterium Longum Complex 0.8 billion CFU+ **
Lactobacillus Acidophilus Complex 4 billion CFU+ **

Liver Health
Milk Thistle Seed Extract (80% Silymarin) 300 mg **

Breath Complex
Peppermint Leaf Powder 250 mg **

Prostate Health
Saw Palmetto Berry Extract 150 mg **
Lycopene 3 mg **

Brain Health
Valerian Root Extract 100 mg **

Hair & Skin Health
Horsetail Herb Extract 100 mg **

Detox Complex
Goldenseal Root Powder 100 mg **

Adrenal Health
Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract 100 mg **

Antioxidant Complex
Co enzyme Q10 10 mg **

Eye Health
Lutein 10 mg **


* Percent Daily Values (DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
** Daily Value not established.
+ CFU count at time of manufacture

Other Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, Stearic Acid, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Dicalcium Phosphate, Croscarmellose, Sodium, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon Dioxide, Pharmaceutical Glaze (Shellac, Povidone)
Contains: Milk.
 
chedapalooza said:
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Dropping March 31 according to Facebook... Any CL reps got the beans to spill?
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The Solution said:
Here you go

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Health IQ helps with includes inflammation, cardio, digestion, liver, breath, prostate, brain, hair, skin, detox, adrenal, antioxidant and eye health. Each benefit has one ingredient supporting it except for inflammation and prostate which have two, and hair and skin which are both backed by the supplement’s single 100mg dose of horsetail herb extract.
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The breath complex is kind of amusing, they wanted to cover every base
 
Myprotein is making anything and everything

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MyProtein now has you covered in the shower with Hair and Body Wash

Blackstone Labs looking like a GDA maybe something to replace Partition-MD?

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smith_69 said:
Serving Size: 3 Tablets
Servings Per Container: 10

Amount Per Serving %DV *
Niacin 10 mg 50%


Inflammation Health
Boswellia Serrata (Extracted for 65% Boswellic Acids) 600 mg **
Turmeric Root Powder (Curcuma longa) 500 mg **

Cardio Health
Garlic Bulb Powder 600 mg **

Urological Health
Cranberry Fruit Extract 500 mg **

Digestion Health
Ginger Root Powder 200 mg **
Bifidobacterium Lactis Complex 3.2 billion CFU+ **
Bifidobacterium Longum Complex 0.8 billion CFU+ **
Lactobacillus Acidophilus Complex 4 billion CFU+ **

Liver Health
Milk Thistle Seed Extract (80% Silymarin) 300 mg **

Breath Complex
Peppermint Leaf Powder 250 mg **

Prostate Health
Saw Palmetto Berry Extract 150 mg **
Lycopene 3 mg **

Brain Health
Valerian Root Extract 100 mg **

Hair & Skin Health
Horsetail Herb Extract 100 mg **

Detox Complex
Goldenseal Root Powder 100 mg **

Adrenal Health
Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract 100 mg **

Antioxidant Complex
Co enzyme Q10 10 mg **

Eye Health
Lutein 10 mg **


* Percent Daily Values (DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
** Daily Value not established.
+ CFU count at time of manufacture

Other Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, Stearic Acid, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Dicalcium Phosphate, Croscarmellose, Sodium, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon Dioxide, Pharmaceutical Glaze (Shellac, Povidone)
Contains: Milk.
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Bah milk thistle... Research showing ill effects on muscle building
 
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