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Ghost BCAA Lemon Lime - 1:20
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Ghost Greens (Lime & Original) - 13:00 - Launch 4/22/2020
 
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So basically if you're taking too much zinc you might actually start to think you have corona.
nowadays, if you have any symptom ever, you assume its the rona haha
 
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I started getting some spring allergies a week or two ago and my wife was convinced I had it......
 
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I think I had Ebola once, the good thing, you can only get it once I hear so I'm good there...
 
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Ghost Cherry Limeade Aminos coming soon
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3 New Merica Energy Flavors Confirmed:

Alpine Pew Pew
Country Fair
Patriot’s Punch

No ETA on when they will be released or info on flavors.
 

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3 New Merica Energy Flavors Confirmed:

Alpine Pew Pew
Country Fair
Patriot’s Punch

No ETA on when they will be released or info on flavors.
Pew Pew ?!?!

Who is naming these?*

*Imma still try em
 

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Alpine Pew Pew? That’s gotta be Mountain Dew....and I’ll be buying it!
 
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Alpine Pew Pew? That’s gotta be Mountain Dew....and I’ll be buying it!
When they launch I will have it shortly after!
My guess is sometime in May due to Core Greens coming out towards end of month
 
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Not new
But I am hearing rumors of Ghost Coconut Ice cream restock coming soon

no eta, but I imagine soon

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New brand with some good looking new products
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Also an error on the label. 10% ara, not 40%. A little misleading
Yeah, now I may actually be willing to try this as I can’t handle ARA. Since it’s only 10% ARA it shouldn’t really have much of an effect on me.

Elevate and Carved seem more interesting to me personally. Anyone know if there are discount codes on these?
 
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@ELROCK What negative effect does ARA have on you ?
 
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@ELROCK What negative effect does ARA have on you ?
Horrible on my joints and old nagging injuries. I also get severe DOMS from ARA.

If you can handle ARA I think it works well as a natural anabolic, but I think it’s best utilized by young gym goes that don’t have bad joints or long lasting injuries or surgeries. That’s just in my opinion. I don’t use it because I am over 35 years old and have a history of sports and weightlifting injuries along with multiple surgeries over the years.
 
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Horrible on my joints and old nagging injuries. I also get severe DOMS from ARA.

If you can handle ARA I think it works well as a natural anabolic, but I think it’s best utilized by young gym goes that don’t have bad joints or long lasting injuries or surgeries. That’s just in my opinion. I don’t use it because I am over 35 years old and have a history of sports and weightlifting injuries along with multiple surgeries over the years.
I did not realize this, so as a 62 year old with a lot of joint pain it is probably not for me.
 
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Label says 266mg per serving (4 capsules) but the nutritional label says 266mg PER capsule... for the 1g+ total.

If the website or label would show what its extracted for, its a great product. Don't have to buy the carnitine salt as its included.

Although, I thought you shouldn't take anti inflammatory products (curcumin) around ARA?
 

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Label says 266mg per serving (4 capsules) but the nutritional label says 266mg PER capsule... for the 1g+ total.

If the website or label would show what its extracted for, its a great product. Don't have to buy the carnitine salt as its included.

Although, I thought you shouldn't take anti inflammatory products (curcumin) around ARA?
I wrote this in another thread, copy and pasted relevant info here for you: (Note, ARA uses enzymes like COX and others to convert into active prostaglandins. PGF2a is the one we want from ARA use, we do not want PGE2 as this is why people get really sore and increased muscle damage.)

Next I theorized that since curcumin blunted post-wo blood levels of some inflammatory markers that it could blunt the adaptive process. Blood levels of any cytokine related to exercise is simply a proxy to what is happening in the muscle. The main cytokine of interest is IL-6 for muscle growth. Curcumin has shown mixed results on blood levels of IL-6 after exercise. More often then not, curcumin really only impacts post-wo blood levels of IL-8. IL-8 in the blood after exercise is rare and only related to the needed generation of an inflammatory response to signal for infiltrating immune cells to enter the damaged tissue, to help with repair, not growth. Curcumin can impact inflammation mainly by inhibiting Nf-kB, it is week at inhibiting COX-1 and COX-2 directly like NSAIDs do. It can also inhibit the production on the prostaglandin PGE2 specifically. This is not all that important, PGE2 is associated with muscle breakdown and the prostaglandin we work after exercise is PGF2a, unlikely to be a factor related to curcumin use. Nf-kB is upsteam of COX-1 and COX-2, it doesn't seem curcumin has a strong effect all the way downstream as there are mixed results on post-wo blood levels of TNF-a and IL-6. Regardless, inhibiting Nf-kB has been implicated in enhancing muscle repair and regeneration processes. In fact, muscles being deficient in Nf-kB has been associated with hypertrophy as well. I doubt curcumin has a strong effect on post-wo inflammatory signals related to adaptations.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19390211.2019.1604604

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-11-31

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25795285

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.13373

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.13373

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5664031/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3320801/

https://www.e-jer.org/journal/view.php?number=2013600164

https://www.cell.com/molecular-therapy-family/molecular-therapy/fulltext/S1525-0016(16)30524-X

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2480606/

And:

Prostaglandins are associated with inflammatory processes, like cytokines are, they are of interest as their presence is linked with muscle repair and growth. They help signal protein synthesis. Except this is really only a function of PGF2a produced by the COX-1 and COX-2 activity that is increased in muscle tissue during resistance exercise. PGE2 is also produced by the same route, but it actually promotes muscle breakdown. Curcumin is very weak at inhibiting COX-1 and COX-2, it primarily works to regulate Nf-kB. It also inhibits (mPGES)-1 to specifically inhibit PGE2, not PGF2a. Its effects on Nf-kB, COX-1, and COX-2 are in relation to exercise is likely minimal at best since it does not impact protein synthesis or reliably decreases post-wo tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-a) or IL-6 plamsa levels.

I cannot speak for boswellic acids though, they tend to inhibit 5-LOX directly and I am unsure how much influence that will have on PGE2 and PGF2a in the context of resistance exercise pathology.
 
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Gaspari Proven Immunity
Arriving Next Week


1.05g of vitamin C
800IU of vitamin D
27.5mg of zinc
2.5g of oat extract as a source of beta-glucan

Flavor: Refreshing Citrus flavor (Stevia Sweetened)
 
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Elevate looks interesting. New company, they have any initial discount codes?
AB10 is in their bio on insta for 10% off. Haven’t tried it but should be good
 
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I wrote this in another thread, copy and pasted relevant info here for you: (Note, ARA uses enzymes like COX and others to convert into active prostaglandins. PGF2a is the one we want from ARA use, we do not want PGE2 as this is why people get really sore and increased muscle damage.)

Next I theorized that since curcumin blunted post-wo blood levels of some inflammatory markers that it could blunt the adaptive process. Blood levels of any cytokine related to exercise is simply a proxy to what is happening in the muscle. The main cytokine of interest is IL-6 for muscle growth. Curcumin has shown mixed results on blood levels of IL-6 after exercise. More often then not, curcumin really only impacts post-wo blood levels of IL-8. IL-8 in the blood after exercise is rare and only related to the needed generation of an inflammatory response to signal for infiltrating immune cells to enter the damaged tissue, to help with repair, not growth. Curcumin can impact inflammation mainly by inhibiting Nf-kB, it is week at inhibiting COX-1 and COX-2 directly like NSAIDs do. It can also inhibit the production on the prostaglandin PGE2 specifically. This is not all that important, PGE2 is associated with muscle breakdown and the prostaglandin we work after exercise is PGF2a, unlikely to be a factor related to curcumin use. Nf-kB is upsteam of COX-1 and COX-2, it doesn't seem curcumin has a strong effect all the way downstream as there are mixed results on post-wo blood levels of TNF-a and IL-6. Regardless, inhibiting Nf-kB has been implicated in enhancing muscle repair and regeneration processes. In fact, muscles being deficient in Nf-kB has been associated with hypertrophy as well. I doubt curcumin has a strong effect on post-wo inflammatory signals related to adaptations.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19390211.2019.1604604

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-11-31

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25795285

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.13373

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.13373

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5664031/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3320801/

https://www.e-jer.org/journal/view.php?number=2013600164

https://www.cell.com/molecular-therapy-family/molecular-therapy/fulltext/S1525-0016(16)30524-X

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2480606/

And:

Prostaglandins are associated with inflammatory processes, like cytokines are, they are of interest as their presence is linked with muscle repair and growth. They help signal protein synthesis. Except this is really only a function of PGF2a produced by the COX-1 and COX-2 activity that is increased in muscle tissue during resistance exercise. PGE2 is also produced by the same route, but it actually promotes muscle breakdown. Curcumin is very weak at inhibiting COX-1 and COX-2, it primarily works to regulate Nf-kB. It also inhibits (mPGES)-1 to specifically inhibit PGE2, not PGF2a. Its effects on Nf-kB, COX-1, and COX-2 are in relation to exercise is likely minimal at best since it does not impact protein synthesis or reliably decreases post-wo tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-a) or IL-6 plamsa levels.

I cannot speak for boswellic acids though, they tend to inhibit 5-LOX directly and I am unsure how much influence that will have on PGE2 and PGF2a in the context of resistance exercise pathology.
I appreciate the breakdown and reasoning why we put that in there
 
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Elevate looks interesting. New company, they have any initial discount codes?
Yes new company with a different mindset of every company. We tried to be different with lots of trial and error. We appreciate the compliment
 
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Label says 266mg per serving (4 capsules) but the nutritional label says 266mg PER capsule... for the 1g+ total.

If the website or label would show what its extracted for, its a great product. Don't have to buy the carnitine salt as its included.

Although, I thought you shouldn't take anti inflammatory products (curcumin) around ARA?
It’s 1067 per four capsules which is a serving. 266 per cap

Thanks for the compliment
 
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Horrible on my joints and old nagging injuries. I also get severe DOMS from ARA.

If you can handle ARA I think it works well as a natural anabolic, but I think it’s best utilized by young gym goes that don’t have bad joints or long lasting injuries or surgeries. That’s just in my opinion. I don’t use it because I am over 35 years old and have a history of sports and weightlifting injuries along with multiple surgeries over the years.
I’m 37 and had joint pains too. Give it a try it hits different trust me.

Elevate will be perfect for you and people with joint issues and people with past injuries
 
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I’m 37 and had joint pains too. Give it a try it hits different trust me.

Elevate will be perfect for you and people with joint issues and people with past injuries
ha, i'm 61 and avoid it like the plague...last time I tried it took a week to get back to my 'normal' aches and pains!!!

it does work though, great supplement for those who can tolerate it.
 
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It’s 1067 per four capsules which is a serving. 266 per cap

Thanks for the compliment
But it’s really 26mg of ArA per cap right?

1067mg (10% standardization) for a 4 cap serving. So it yields 106.7mg of ArA per 4 caps, or ~26.6 per cap.
 

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I appreciate the breakdown and reasoning why we put that in there
I wrote this in another thread, copy and pasted relevant info here for you: (Note, ARA uses enzymes like COX and others to convert into active prostaglandins. PGF2a is the one we want from ARA use, we do not want PGE2 as this is why people get really sore and increased muscle damage.)

Next I theorized that since curcumin blunted post-wo blood levels of some inflammatory markers that it could blunt the adaptive process. Blood levels of any cytokine related to exercise is simply a proxy to what is happening in the muscle. The main cytokine of interest is IL-6 for muscle growth. Curcumin has shown mixed results on blood levels of IL-6 after exercise. More often then not, curcumin really only impacts post-wo blood levels of IL-8. IL-8 in the blood after exercise is rare and only related to the needed generation of an inflammatory response to signal for infiltrating immune cells to enter the damaged tissue, to help with repair, not growth. Curcumin can impact inflammation mainly by inhibiting Nf-kB, it is week at inhibiting COX-1 and COX-2 directly like NSAIDs do. It can also inhibit the production on the prostaglandin PGE2 specifically. This is not all that important, PGE2 is associated with muscle breakdown and the prostaglandin we work after exercise is PGF2a, unlikely to be a factor related to curcumin use. Nf-kB is upsteam of COX-1 and COX-2, it doesn't seem curcumin has a strong effect all the way downstream as there are mixed results on post-wo blood levels of TNF-a and IL-6. Regardless, inhibiting Nf-kB has been implicated in enhancing muscle repair and regeneration processes. In fact, muscles being deficient in Nf-kB has been associated with hypertrophy as well. I doubt curcumin has a strong effect on post-wo inflammatory signals related to adaptations.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19390211.2019.1604604

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-11-31

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25795285

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.13373

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.13373

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5664031/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3320801/

https://www.e-jer.org/journal/view.php?number=2013600164

https://www.cell.com/molecular-therapy-family/molecular-therapy/fulltext/S1525-0016(16)30524-X

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2480606/

And:

Prostaglandins are associated with inflammatory processes, like cytokines are, they are of interest as their presence is linked with muscle repair and growth. They help signal protein synthesis. Except this is really only a function of PGF2a produced by the COX-1 and COX-2 activity that is increased in muscle tissue during resistance exercise. PGE2 is also produced by the same route, but it actually promotes muscle breakdown. Curcumin is very weak at inhibiting COX-1 and COX-2, it primarily works to regulate Nf-kB. It also inhibits (mPGES)-1 to specifically inhibit PGE2, not PGF2a. Its effects on Nf-kB, COX-1, and COX-2 are in relation to exercise is likely minimal at best since it does not impact protein synthesis or reliably decreases post-wo tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-a) or IL-6 plamsa levels.

I cannot speak for boswellic acids though, they tend to inhibit 5-LOX directly and I am unsure how much influence that will have on PGE2 and PGF2a in the context of resistance exercise pathology.
I will further add that although 5-LOX does not appear to interact with PGF2a production, it is important for the production of specialized pro-resolving mediators (SPMs) production. Other compounds shown to inhibit COX and LOX enzymes with a high degree of specificity and potency have been shown to delay or reduce the production of SPMs. This is important for the resolution of inflammation and completion of tissue repair, it may even be important for adaptations to resistance exercise. Blocking the production of SPMs does open one up to the a potential issue of chronic low-grade inflammation. This is one potential draw back of adding boswellic acids to a supplement such as this. ARA conversion into other pro-inflammatory mediators (via COX, LOX, CYP, ect) is partially responsible for this phase switch to SPMs production so we could be losing out on some benefits of this ingredient when combined with boswellic acids. It is possible that PGF2a is only one part of what makes ARA effective, it could be the large influx of general pro-inflammatory mediators leading to a higher influx of SPMs could also be a factor in results. This is an extrapolation of course as time will tell more as there is always a constant struggle between inflammatory mediators, muscle damage, repair, hypertrophy, and inflammation resolution impacting which adaptations we get and how much.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3882565/?report=reader

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24833778

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26853678
 
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Just to quickly summarize the ArA discussion so everyone is on the same page and understands the difference between softgels and capsules.

Softgels allow for ArA oil. Take X-Gels for example, as that is what I am familiar with. Each softgel is 625mg ArA oil blend at a 40% standardization, yielding 250mg ArA per softgel. 4 caps gets you 1g ArA.

If a product is encapsulated, it’s a powder, and is at a 10% standardization.
 
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Yes new company with a different mindset of every company. We tried to be different with lots of trial and error. We appreciate the compliment
Are you planning any log opps?
 
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But it’s really 26mg of ArA per cap right?

1067mg (10% standardization) for a 4 cap serving. So it yields 106.7mg of ArA per 4 caps, or ~26.6 per cap.
Math looks good .. also dont just think of age and disarm ARA .. i know plenty of kids who cant handle this at 20-24yrs .. and then know 30-50yrs old who love it

Yes inflmmation have to happen inorder for it to work .. if you want to get rid of all of ARA you would have to be a Vegan
 
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Ghost drops Cherry limeade tomorrow
Ghost greens next week
Eta on coconut whey restock ?? Possibly end of month

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Math looks good .. also dont just think of age and disarm ARA .. i know plenty of kids who cant handle this at 20-24yrs .. and then know 30-50yrs old who love it

Yes inflmmation have to happen inorder for it to work .. if you want to get rid of all of ARA you would have to be a Vegan
Well said. ARA destroyed me when I was around only 22 years old as I recall. Like, crippling effects on joints and recovery. At 29 now, with 7 more years of strength training under my belt... I would probably just die
 
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Math looks good .. also dont just think of age and disarm ARA .. i know plenty of kids who cant handle this at 20-24yrs .. and then know 30-50yrs old who love it

Yes inflmmation have to happen inorder for it to work .. if you want to get rid of all of ARA you would have to be a Vegan
Was this in response to something I said lol? Or just a general statement? I’m aware of everything you said.
 
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Math looks good .. also dont just think of age and disarm ARA .. i know plenty of kids who cant handle this at 20-24yrs .. and then know 30-50yrs old who love it

Yes inflmmation have to happen inorder for it to work .. if you want to get rid of all of ARA you would have to be a Vegan
Was this in response to something I said lol? Or just a general statement? I’m aware of everything you said.
 
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Well said. ARA destroyed me when I was around only 22 years old as I recall. Like, crippling effects on joints and recovery. At 29 now, with 7 more years of strength training under my belt... I would probably just die
I first used ArA when I was 22 or 23 with no issues. Just ran 2 bottles of it recently at 28 and my knees were achy lol. Great results, but first time noticing joint pain.
 
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Well said. ARA destroyed me when I was around only 22 years old as I recall. Like, crippling effects on joints and recovery. At 29 now, with 7 more years of strength training under my belt... I would probably just die
I first used ArA when I was 22 or 23 with no issues. Just ran 2 bottles of it recently at 28 and my knees were achy lol. Great results, but first time noticing joint pain.
 
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Anyone looked at the new formula of Inspired's Ember? I liked the original, but the new one looks a bit better to me. It follows the current trend of what tons of the powdered fat burners look like right now, but still think it could be a pretty decent boost. Was supposed to release today but looks pushed back until the end of the month. I may pick some up.

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Each single-scoop serving of the new and upcoming Inspired Ember will include a solid 300mg of premium KSM-66 ashwagandha, 1.5g of carnitine, 250mg of dandelion, 50mg of Cocoabuterol, and 20mg of grains of paradise. Those are only the supplement’s heavier ingredients, with several others also in the mix, mostly to help out on the energy and focus side of things.

Rounding out the new Inspired Ember formula is 200mg of caffeine, 125mg of Dynamine, 100mg of Advantra Z, 30mg of theobromine, and 25mg of KannaEase. It is important to note that all of those ingredients are based on a single scoop serving, of which it is suggested to take two per day, so you can double those dosages for the amount you’ll be taking in daily.
 

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Anyone looked at the new formula of Inspired's Ember? I liked the original, but the new one looks a bit better to me. It follows the current trend of what tons of the powdered fat burners look like right now, but still think it could be a pretty decent boost. Was supposed to release today but looks pushed back until the end of the month. I may pick some up.

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It would be interesting to see if the Kanna overpowers the stims on the calm front. Never used it personally but supposed to be pretty potent on the calm/stress/mood side of things.
 

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