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Decent pre workout formula outside of the Teacrine. Not sure why companies are still using it when its effects are not felt until 1-2 hours after taking it....
Edit. 2.5g Betaine
 
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And low dose of betaine need least 3.5g
2.5g

But 2g isn’t a waste or anything. Still, I can’t imagine 500mg more would’ve changed the per unit cost too much
 
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Decent pre workout formula outside of the Teacrine. Not sure why companies are still using it when its effects are not felt until 1-2 hours after taking it....
I would say it kicks in within 45-60 minutes, in my experience. It may kick in 20 minutes into training, but most people train much longer than 20 minutes. I like teacrine, particularly when stacked with caffeine and dynamine.
 
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I would say it kicks in within 45-60 minutes, in my experience. It may kick in 20 minutes into training, but most people train much longer than 20 minutes. I like teacrine, particularly when stacked with caffeine and dynamine.
I like teacrine too. I use it daily stacked with dynamite as my morning pick me up since they work well together.

IMO, I would much rather have the mood boost in a preworkout hit early on with some extended release caffeine to prolong the energy. Everyone is different though!
 
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I would like to try it!!!
 
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Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
 

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I agree 200mg is my max of caffine. Don't mind some E or Y tossed in. But most preworkouts have become too high for me.
 

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Darkside pre looks pretty decent still at one scoop and good balance with caffeine. Agreed on the Teacrine though, not sure why it's still used really at all anymore.
 
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I like teacrine too. I use it daily stacked with dynamite as my morning pick me up since they work well together.

IMO, I would much rather have the mood boost in a preworkout hit early on with some extended release caffeine to prolong the energy. Everyone is different though!
Man, you must have some crazy tolerance if your morning pick me up starts with DYNAMITE 🧨 haha
 
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Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
Know one:

Supplement companies: WE NEED MORE CAFFEINE IN OUR PRODUCTS, EVEN THE SLEEP FORMULAS!!
 
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Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
Know one:

Supplement companies: WE NEED MORE CAFFEINE IN OUR PRODUCTS, EVEN THE SLEEP FORMULAS!!
 
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Me too. Some more stuff for sports nutrition will be out in a bit.



Not organ but something very important anyway with a solid formula for it
Good to see ya back on the forums broski! Excited to see some of your work with these new formulas
 
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Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
I will say some of us need that much to actually feel the caffeine. Two weeks zero stims did nothing to drop my tolerance, 200mg solo still does nothing for me. That said when combining with other stims I agree it is a bit excessive. I used to love the stim bombs, but now that I workout in the evenings I rarely get the chance to use them. Still curious to see what’s in Thermagize xt though, really enjoyed the samples I had
 
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I should mention glycergrow 2.0 is not discontinued :)
Well that’s great!

Decent pre workout formula outside of the Teacrine. Not sure why companies are still using it when its effects are not felt until 1-2 hours after taking it....
To a certain extent I agree, but I also find for some formulas it just takes the edge off of any come down and training in the middle of the day I love it because it leaves me feeling good heading back to work after.

I think the bigger issue is how small of doses some companies use or not disclosing it is 40% in the label so it “seems” like it’s dosed higher.
 

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Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
Think it’s just a mindset that their pre-workout needs to blow people away. Like that first time you had PWO feeling. But more caffeine is just lazy formula. I like around 200 mg from a pre and then can still drink a Diet Coke on the commute and some tea at work. That holds me over for the morning fast and until early afternoon lunch
 
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Liking the looks of that label!
the feedback from the testers (blind testing done by a few guys on here) was unbelievably similar and unanimously positive too!
 

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Do people really need 425mg of caffeine to actually workout (325mg Caffeine + 100mg DiCaffeine Malate)?
If so I truly question their sole reason for working out or mental fortitude in the first place.
It is like its a race to see who can make the larger stim bomb now and days.
I can't imagine taking that much caffeine in one dose. That's more in one dose than most people have in a day. Jeez
 
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Uk brand dropping some new things

I know that the pump product will contain vaso6

Other then that no labels have been shown

They also have a stim product coming out called stim head.. again no labels yet




 
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I can't imagine taking that much caffeine in one dose. That's more in one dose than most people have in a day. Jeez
Eh, I don’t think you’re considering the law of diminishing returns. You don’t get double the effect from 400mg caffeine as 200, as it’s not linear. Like many things, doubling the dose might get you, say, 25% more pop.

That’s how people can work up to 600mg servings & such sometimes. Just because you can’t fathom it doesn’t mean plenty of people aren’t fine with it. I had a friend who could drink GREEN tea and be absolutely wired, couldn’t sleep for 8 hours. On 3mg caffeine. People vary in response significantly.
 
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Guess with no board presence anymore we wouldn’t have got any hints about this..



 

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Eh, I don’t think you’re considering the law of diminishing returns. You don’t get double the effect from 400mg caffeine as 200, as it’s not linear. Like many things, doubling the dose might get you, say, 25% more pop.

That’s how people can work up to 600mg servings & such sometimes. Just because you can’t fathom it doesn’t mean plenty of people aren’t fine with it. I had a friend who could drink GREEN tea and be absolutely wired, couldn’t sleep for 8 hours. On 3mg caffeine. People vary in response significantly.
Never once mentioned doubling the amount or even gave a number. Was referring to the fact that 300+ mg caffeine is a lot for a single dose
 
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Never once mentioned doubling the amount or even gave a number. Was referring to the fact that 300+ mg caffeine is a lot for a single dose
I understand that. And I am saying they sell it because there are plenty of people that don’t feel that way, and that individuals respond differently.

I cannot take any amount of Yohimbine. 2mg is an uncomfortable excessive feeling for me. There are folks who feel good on 20mg!
 
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I understand that. And I am saying they sell it because there are plenty of people that don’t feel that way, and that individuals respond differently.

I cannot take any amount of Yohimbine. 2mg is an uncomfortable excessive feeling for me. There are folks who feel good on 20mg!
True, the garbage Yohimbine is an anxiety nightmare for me, but HCL is perfectly fine.
 
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I find it hard to believe that drinking 300mg of caffeine two times before noon does much for you.
And that’s kinda really illustrating all I’m trying to point out here: 400+mg caffeine may be crazy for some, but same as Starbucks will throw extra shots of espresso into a 20oz coffee if you pay for it, there’s a real and prominent market.
 
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And that’s kinda really illustrating all I’m trying to point out here: 400+mg caffeine may be crazy for some, but same as Starbucks will throw extra shots of espresso into a 20oz coffee if you pay for it, there’s a real and prominent market.
There are also many factors that go into this and can be modified so people don't have to abuse and rely on stims to live their day to day lives. If you have to wake up and slam 300mg of caffeine from an energy drink to wake up there is an issue or red flag that needs to be addressed (proper sleep)We did not grow up over decades of drinking energy drinks to survive. People use to farm, hunt, and live day in and day out and never touch a gram of caffeine. There will be some outliers, but it hasn't been until the last 5-10 years or so there has been a major increase in caffeine intake in the forms of carbonation beverages (hence why you see everyone and their mother joining that part of the industry)

- Stress Management
- Sleep Pattern
- Proper Hydration
- Yoga, Meditation, Stretching

These are just some of the things that can remedy an overabundance of caffeine intake. For the most part in this day and age, people work too much which causes extra stress, lack of sleep, and the overuse of caffeine to operate on a day to day lifestyle. Again not the case for everyone, but it is becoming more frequent with not allowing ourselves to get proper rest and recovery to help function on a daily basis.
 
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Purple Wraath new flavor from Controlled Labs

Freedom Pop

CL be taking all my money with orange Beat and the new probiotic coming out soon!

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I saw that on their site earlier when I was trying to decide what to get for my 30 labels!

I was beyond excited, as I had no idea they had released this flavor!
 
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I saw that on their site earlier when I was trying to decide what to get for my 30 labels!

I was beyond excited, as I had no idea they had released this flavor!
Bro. I’ll pay you. Cut these!!! There’s only 24 (not counting the 5+ in my pantry )
I always feel like imma lose finger when I cut the OT bottles.
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Bro. I’ll pay you. Cut these!!! There’s only 24 (not counting the 5+ in my pantry )
I always feel like imma lose finger when I cut the OT bottles. ]
Not even lying here I resorted to using a saw. Trying to cut all my oximega bottles was one of the most frustrating experiences ever haha
 
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So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
I pretty much saw no one like it.

🤷‍♂️
 
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So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
Thanks for that info but they aren’t getting my money a 2nd time.
 

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So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
So we're just stuck with shitty tasting whey because of their screwup? Sweet, I'm never buying from them again.
 

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So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
I didn't buy this protein flavor cause I've always been afraid of Ghost'$ :D but if they
know they have an issue with the flavoring they should make good on all the people
who had bad flavored tubs and issue them a replacement cause I've heard more bad
feedback than good on this flavor. Just my opinion.:)
 

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I sent an email expressing my displeasure with the clumping on the CG V3 legend....they sent me a link to their YouTube video saying it might clump, but use a fork

I sent them photos of the massive bricks inside the tub and they just said to shake the canister. Yeah no, I had to break them apart in my blender to make a powder again and then store in the fridge.

They should’ve used a better moisture pack, as I used other preworkouts with similar ingredients and have never experienced those types of clumping issues. If they knew clumping would be an issue, then they should have done a better job of preventing that from happening. For what we had to pay for the pre-workout, I would expect a better result.

I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have accepted those clumping issues from their manufacturer.
 
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So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
Haven’t seen any positive feedback here aside from yours. I’m really glad I held off on this one
 
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So for those who said Ghost Chips Ahoy tasted bad I found an answer:

There was a flavor consistency issue on the first run of the product, so Ghost is going back to re-fix the issue before launching a second run of the product. That may be why there was so hit or miss feedback on the product.

Which makes more sense since feedback was very inconsistent.
Inconsistent meaning you were the only one who liked it.
 

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