The New Product Release Thread

D3x said:
Sorry to all for my outburst.. just a touchy topic for me.. back to products please. BloodManor so what is Bacchus useful for?
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Me personally would use it after a stressful day at work and just sit in the yard with good music. Other people might like it after a rough gym session to mellow them out or for low state cardio over long periods. Bet people would find many uses for it.
 
D3x said:
Try getting taken to jail over something stupid.. you won't like cops either.. fckin idiot.. cops mean rather de-escalation you get to sit behind bars.. pay for a lawyer.. have nothing to eat.. (cuz jail feeds you glorified nothing).. fckin dumb normie ass fck..dude can taze you for no reason and claim he felt threatened.. no question.. criminal was tazed.. they are people who can strip you of your humanity based on suspicion​.. no proof.. all of a sudden your whole life changes on some dude's whim.. they protect and serve.. sort of.
There is a whole other side to it man.. they introduce you to the system.. the system destroys you..
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Dont act suspicious or be ignorant and that wont happen to you. Plain n simple. Something doesnt happen for nothing.
 
The Solution said:
Instead of this turning into the Misc....
Lets get back on track....



As great as Chaos and Pain is making sceletium tortuosum sound, that’s not all it has thrown into Bacchus. Alongside the sceletium tortuosum is 100mg each of theanine, 150mg of caffeine for energy, hordenine, and 5HTP, 200mg each of vitamin C and rhodiola, and 250mg of PEA.


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It definitely looks like an interesting formula. So with the caffeine, would this be better for relaxing or work/social?
 
BRUstrong said:
It definitely looks like an interesting formula. So with the caffeine, would this be better for relaxing or work/social?
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Caffeine is great for mental stimulation and focus especially at such a lose dose (150mg is a very low dose for many these days lol)
 
BloodManor said:
Caffeine is great for mental stimulation and focus especially at such a lose dose (150mg is a very low dose for many these days lol)
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Hahaha oh I know...I could take a nap after 150mg. I’m definitely going to pick up a bottle and probably add a bit more caffeine. I’m really interested in the mood aspect of this.
 
BRUstrong said:
Hahaha oh I know...I could take a nap after 150mg. I’m definitely going to pick up a bottle and probably add a bit more caffeine. I’m really interested in the mood aspect of this.
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Same here lol I remember when a medium stim product was 150mg and high was 250 or 300 tops!!! And those where extreme lol
 
nostrum420 said:
I totally understand why it has to be labeled in a mundane way but this is so much more than green tea extract. This is the kind of innovation I'm hoping to see more of.
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Thank you. I wish it could be labeled in a more exciting manner myself but as is the case of licensed patented ingredients, we have to identify the name in the way that the company tells us to.

nostrum420 said:
It *is* green tea extract but it's extracted and standardized for different active phytochemicals than you'd find in a typical green tea extract. Said chemicals have an effect on nitric oxide pretty much on par with nitrate salts.

I'm a chemist... I get excited by these things...
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Thank you for explaining this. I don't have the time to get on here nearly as much as I'd like to. Glad the ingredient excites you, it really is a phenomenal ingredient.

danielmoo said:
Awesome release from SNS. Doesn't always need to be sexy, just straightforward and useful
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We have a lot of upcoming formulation products planned but we definitely still want to provide great single ingredient products at great prices. I think VASO6 is a great ingredient and we're glad to make it available for daily use.


Ape McGrapes said:
Any chance you know the molecular weight of Vaso6 or it's bioavailability? Should we assume both are the same as Epicatechin or Green Tea?
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I don't remember it off hand. For some reason, I'm thinking it was slightly higher than Epicatechin because I know that Epicatechin can be used transdermally and I read something about why VASO6 couldn't be and I think it had to do with the weight. I'll try to find it and if I can, I'll pm you.
 
sns8778 said:
Thank you. I wish it could be labeled in a more exciting manner myself but as is the case of licensed patented ingredients, we have to identify the name in the way that the company tells us to.



Thank you for explaining this. I don't have the time to get on here nearly as much as I'd like to. Glad the ingredient excites you, it really is a phenomenal ingredient.



We have a lot of upcoming formulation products planned but we definitely still want to provide great single ingredient products at great prices. I think VASO6 is a great ingredient and we're glad to make it available for daily use.




I don't remember it off hand. For some reason, I'm thinking it was slightly higher than Epicatechin because I know that Epicatechin can be used transdermally and I read something about why VASO6 couldn't be and I think it had to do with the weight. I'll try to find it and if I can, I'll pm you.
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transdermal delivery is what had my interest peaked. Would love any reading material you had on Vaso6. Just to grasp how it all works.
 
Curious if ProSupps is rebranding all their protein snacks .

All their cookies and Bars are BOGO .
24 MyCookies for $20
24 MyBars for $24
24 MyBar Pros for $27

... wondering if something is up as they rebranded all their protein powder already
 
The Solution said:
Instead of this turning into the Misc....
Lets get back on track....



As great as Chaos and Pain is making sceletium tortuosum sound, that’s not all it has thrown into Bacchus. Alongside the sceletium tortuosum is 100mg each of theanine, 150mg of caffeine for energy, hordenine, and 5HTP, 200mg each of vitamin C and rhodiola, and 250mg of PEA.


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The evolution of Chaos and Pain's design is interesting. I bet next they will change their company name away from the tear your ribcage apart gimmick. Their new designs are too sleek and clean, the name "Chaos and Pain" doesn't fit (or the font) with everything else about their labels.
 
TommyTuffGuy said:
The evolution of Chaos and Pain's design is interesting. I bet next they will change their company name away from the tear your ribcage apart gimmick. Their new designs are too sleek and clean, the name "Chaos and Pain" doesn't fit (or the font) with everything else about their labels.
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Still has the Choas and pain feel but updated ^^


Certain products like bacchus appeal to a larger audience than die hard gym goers. So that’s probably why they went that direction with the label. Plus that label is clean as hell. Really sold looking label that many will like. I also love the red sky and chemical x label

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TommyTuffGuy said:
The evolution of Chaos and Pain's design is interesting. I bet next they will change their company name away from the tear your ribcage apart gimmick. Their new designs are too sleek and clean, the name "Chaos and Pain" doesn't fit (or the font) with everything else about their labels.
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I actually like the new design. It is not my favorite, but it is much better than their previous design. I thought their previous design was kind of childish and turned me away from their supplements. I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but font choice and label design do play a role if I think a company and its products are reputable or not.

Before someone tells me my logic is flawed, I know.
 
AntM1564 said:
I actually like the new design. It is not my favorite, but it is much better than their previous design. I thought their previous design was kind of childish and turned me away from their supplements. I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but font choice and label design do play a role if I think a company and its products are reputable or not.

Before someone tells me my logic is flawed, I know.
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I agree about a label design playing a role in a purchase. Even though the company is solid and the ingredients are what I was looking for the label could turn someone off from buying it. I’m talking in general not about a certain company.
 
BloodManor said:
I agree about the label design does play a role in a purchase. Even though the company is solid and the ingredients s what I was looking for the label could turn someone off from buying it.
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Idk tho... Tear out your ribcage type design seems more true to CnP tho.. at least to those of us who've followed the blog forever
 
D3x said:
Idk tho... Tear out your ribcage type design seems more true to CnP tho.. at least to those of us who've followed the blog forever
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Yeah, but that feel suits some products (and demographics/etc.) better than others. For something like a high-stim pre-workout, it makes sense (aggressive), but for a nootropic that's geared towards improving mood and relaxation, it may not exactly be the best fit or give off the most accurate/desirable first impression, even if the label/ingredients is what people should base their decisions on.
 
ZachHXx said:
Redcon MOAB anyone? Essentially just HICA and HMB it looks like. Hmmm. Probably a solid recovery supp. Wonder what price will be from retailers (on sale obvi)
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HMB, HICA, and Epicatechin. I’d give it a try as long as the price comes down from $65. I’m intrigued by that combo of ingredients.
 
BloodManor said:
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Still has the Choas and pain feel but updated ^^


Certain products like bacchus appeal to a larger audience than die hard gym goers. So that’s probably why they went that direction with the label. Plus that label is clean as hell. Really sold looking label that many will like. I also love the red sky and chemical x label

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Man I’m with you! I love their new labels! Very clean looking!
 
D3x said:
Tart cherry extract.. I just read about that.. supposed to do wonders for endurance
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Have you found research to back it. It think I've just read from some articles.
I like the pomegranate (thou extract would have been better) and theobromine
 
Clear tubs are just all round cooler looking


The kraken blue bomb flavour was in a clear tub and it was neat

And the tutti frutti mesmorph tub
 
bosskardo said:
Have you found research to back it. It think I've just read from some articles.
I like the pomegranate (thou extract would have been better) and theobromine
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I have not.. pretty sure I saw it skimming an article or 2.. not an endurance person so it didn't hold too much interest for me..
 
Just a couple I found quick.. not the best sample sizes really, but studies nonetheless

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AntM1564 said:
I actually like the new design. It is not my favorite, but it is much better than their previous design. I thought their previous design was kind of childish and turned me away from their supplements. I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but font choice and label design do play a role if I think a company and its products are reputable or not.

Before someone tells me my logic is flawed, I know.
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They absolutely do. Even the new Applied Nuetircuticals rep admitted when they left the cool RPM/DRIVE bottle/capsule design everyone went away so they are changing them back!
 
BloodManor said:
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Still has the Choas and pain feel but updated ^^


Certain products like bacchus appeal to a larger audience than die hard gym goers. So that’s probably why they went that direction with the label. Plus that label is clean as hell. Really sold looking label that many will like. I also love the red sky and chemical x label

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Don't take my comment the wrong way, I love the new labels. (I'm a graphic designer as well). It just looks like an evolution is happening, I wouldn't be shocked if you changed company names to match it sometime soon.
 
A brand new MuscleGELZ product just landed again today!!

EstroZone™ – TAKING ESTROGEN CONTROL TO THE NEXT LEVEL!

Guaranteed Absorption. No needles, No pills, No liver stress!

• Powered by Arimistane & Chrysin
• Helps Prevent Water Retention & Puffiness
• Clean gel, no scent or residue & dries quickly
• Rapid superior absorption

Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione (25mg)
5,7-dihydroxyflavone (Chrysin)(250mg) per mL (3 pumps of lotion= 1mL)
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Might seem like a sales pitch,but it's not. This is a VERY limited batch of this product in stock right now. Sell out risk is going to be super high. We have more incoming but it might take 2-3 months.
 
WesleyInman said:
A brand new MuscleGELZ product just landed again today!!

EstroZone – TAKING ESTROGEN CONTROL TO THE NEXT LEVEL!

Guaranteed Absorption. No needles, No pills, No liver stress!

• Powered by Arimistane & Chrysin
• Helps Prevent Water Retention & Puffiness
• Clean gel, no scent or residue & dries quickly
• Rapid superior absorption

Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione (25mg)
5,7-dihydroxyflavone (Chrysin)(250mg) per mL (3 pumps of lotion= 1mL)
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Might seem like a sales pitch,but it's not. This is a VERY limited batch of this product in stock right now. Sell out risk is going to be super high. We have more incoming but it might take 2-3 months.
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Don’t take this the wrong way I like the brand and enjoyed androhard but uhm why didn’t you put anything in there to help with estrogen control?
 
The Express 42 said:
Don’t take this the wrong way I like the brand and enjoyed androhard but uhm why didn’t you put anything in there to help with estrogen control?
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chrysin is actually pretty effective, if dosed high enough in a topical, which this is on the low side of what I personally found effective. However, it is still in the effective dose range, just on the lower side for me. Also I've never had bloods just going on feel. Although there is quite a bit of evidence that Chrysin works, if it actually reaches the bloodstream. which is why high dose in a topical is crucial.
 
The Solution said:
Curious if ProSupps is rebranding all their protein snacks .

All their cookies and Bars are BOGO .
24 MyCookies for $20
24 MyBars for $24
24 MyBar Pros for $27

... wondering if something is up as they rebranded all their protein powder already
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Seeing this deal now and i feel i overspent on a box of PES bars haha
Picked myself up some MyBar Pros. $1.25 a bar!
 
Mowglisml said:
Seeing this deal now and i feel i overspent on a box of PES bars haha
Picked myself up some MyBar Pros. $1.25 a bar!
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Personally I buy bars when there is a sale since so many are pretty good these days. Rather pay $1.25 a bar for a decent tasting one than $3 for one that’s slightly better tasting.
 
The Express 42 said:
Don’t take this the wrong way I like the brand and enjoyed androhard but uhm why didn’t you put anything in there to help with estrogen control?
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Are you asking me, why did MuscleGELZ not put an anti estrogen compound in, alongside of the epiandro and androsterone in the AndroHard formula?
 
ZachHXx said:
No. He's saying the 2 ingredients in estrozone dont actually do anything for estrogen levels.
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Estrozone = Arimistane + Chrysin

Arimistane
Arimistane works via binding to the aromatase enzyme[1] and does so with an extremely strong binding rate of .22 micromolar.

Arimistane acts as a “suicidal inhibitor” of the aromatase enzyme, meaning once it binds, it is incapable of releasing until the body eliminates the enzyme from the body. As such, this compound will directly cause decreased estrogen levels while simultaneously increasing testosterone levels


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Chrysin

Chrysin (5,7,4'-trihydroxy-3',5'-dimethoxyflavone, 11) has shown strong aromatase inhibition in microsomes [118–124], JEG-3 cells [125], Arom+HEK 293 cells [125], human preadipocyte cells [126], H295R adrenocortical carcinoma cells [127], and in a MCF-7 dual assay for aromatase inhibition and estrogenicity (chrysin was also estrogenic at high concentrations) [116]. Chrysin (11) did not show activity using trout ovarian aromatase [128] or in endometrial cells [118].
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VPX Meltdown
Bang Spinoff 7.5g BHB Salts and Teacrine
Flavors : Grape Blade Lemonade , citrus twist and peach mango

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Starting to see these get out to other retailers around $32 Case or $2.75/Can
 
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