The more I research--THe more I salivate!

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Okay we now AP increases GLUT 4 but how about a 100% increase!!!!!!!! Just got research in from India..

How about PPAR gamma antagonist..nice..

Increase LDL transport for excretion..nice...

THis Tannins complex may need to be seperated in the future for those WHO live on the edge!~
 
Sweet.

"Wipes drool from boss' chin"
 
USPLabs said:
Okay we now AP increases GLUT 4 but how about a 100% increase!!!!!!!! Just got research in from India..

How about PPAR gamma antagonist..nice..

Increase LDL transport for excretion..nice...

THis Tannins complex may need to be seperated in the future for those WHO live on the edge!~
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I knew an old homesteader from the MATSU valley that said "If your not livin' on the edge, your takin' up to much room!"
 
Okay we now AP increases GLUT 4 but how about a 100% increase!!!!!!!! Just got research in from India..

How about PPAR gamma antagonist..nice..

Increase LDL transport for excretion..nice...

THis Tannins complex may need to be seperated in the future for those WHO live on the edge!~
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GLUT4 is expressed in the cells of skeletal muscle, heart and fat.

So this increase in GLUT4 is only in skeletal muscle cells?

How does that work though?

**In other words**
In the presence of insulin GLUT4 transports glucose into the cell. Why not fat cells which also use GLUT4 as their transport protein?
 
USPLabs said:
Okay we now AP increases GLUT 4 but how about a 100% increase!!!!!!!! Just got research in from India..

How about PPAR gamma antagonist..nice..

Increase LDL transport for excretion..nice...

THis Tannins complex may need to be seperated in the future for those WHO live on the edge!~
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Wich part of AP does what? Im curious as to what I'm experiencing. Probably the LDL transport and GLUT4. Ive never had a PPAR antagonist work on me (sesamin and TTA).
 
Rivet said:
Wich part of AP does what? Im curious as to what I'm experiencing. Probably the LDL transport and GLUT4. Ive never had a PPAR antagonist work on me (sesamin and TTA).
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TTA/sesamin are ppar agonists, not antagonists.

They both activate PPAR Alpha...from USP's research, the "tannins" I guess serve to deactivate PPAR gamma.

PPAR Alpha is fat release and fat burning, gamma is fat storage.
 
Enigma76 said:
TTA/sesamin are ppar agonists, not antagonists.

They both activate PPAR Alpha...from USP's research, the "tannins" I guess serve to deactivate PPAR gamma.

PPAR Alpha is fat release and fat burning, gamma is fat storage.
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Thanks for the run down. Just trying to figure out how my body works since its so fussy.
 
\_JIMBO_/ said:
GLUT4 is expressed in the cells of skeletal muscle, heart and fat.

So this increase in GLUT4 is only in skeletal muscle cells?

How does that work though?

**In other words**
In the presence of insulin GLUT4 transports glucose into the cell. Why not fat cells which also use GLUT4 as their transport protein?
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I haven't seen that they've given a mechanism, only that they noted that it reduced GLUT4 mRNA expression in fat cells while stimulating GLUT4 translocation in muscle.
 
Rivet said:
Thanks for the run down. Just trying to figure out how my body works since its so fussy.
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Don't worry my gf gets fussy this time of the month too!! :nutkick:
 
Ziricote said:
You're looking a little yellow there bro, you feeling alright? :confused:
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Lol couldn't stand being green and staring that those bodybuilder ads every thread. Now I have the best of both worlds :thumbsup:
 
BOHICA said:
Lol couldn't stand being green and staring that those bodybuilder ads every thread. Now I have the best of both worlds :thumbsup:
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I'd thought as much, I gotta say i miss the perks of being gold...
 
Ziricote said:
I'd thought as much, I gotta say i miss the perks of being gold...
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Fine..Do not let the door hit your A$$ on the way out!:nutkick:
 
I haven't seen that they've given a mechanism, only that they noted that it reduced GLUT4 mRNA expression in fat cells while stimulating GLUT4 translocation in muscle.
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ooo That would be Awesome, sounds Great, and if true, should be included in the write up! :thumbsup:

Makes sence that the mechanism is unknown, because much is unknown about the process.
 
jonesboy said:
uhh so what does that mean for the people without a science degree??
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Pretty much the same as what his initial description of what the product does. Feeds muscle, starves fat :)
 
Bering C said:
I knew an old homesteader from the MATSU valley that said "If your not livin' on the edge, your takin' up to much room!"
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lol, i have a feeling not too many people on this site know where the MATSU valley is. me and you are the resident alaskans of am
 
fbxdan said:
lol, i have a feeling not too many people on this site know where the MATSU valley is. me and you are the resident alaskans of am
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Muk luk the secret to your ginormous back? Perhaps we could make a potent extract. Tell ya what, break out your ulu, hack up a few thousand pounds and send it to the lab in India. Jacob is sure to reimburse shipping ten fold in product. Of course if it turns out to be garbage you may be out a few duckets, unless we can sell it to GNC. :D
 
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