HereToStudy
Primordial Performance Rep
Theres always one ass in the group. 252 Bob!
The Future of Primordial Performance
- Thread starter Trauma1
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Theres always one ass in the group. 252 Bob!
VikingBP
New member
Well then I'll just wait patiently for peoples reviews of it and buy it later if the price is truly worth it. I really hope they are revolutionary.
Trauma1
Legend
I'd pay $200 for that
I'd pay 200 rubles. :fingersx:
Rodja
Board Sponsor
Not to my knowledge.
Rahl
Well-known member
oke:
Hustlers
Member
Yup theres a stain on my pants after 20 seconds of looking at that picture...and its not bob hope
Dirty music
Member
u mad?
cbr1000rr
Active member
so the site wont be up today. should probably change that february 8th eta on the website...
Rodja
Board Sponsor
How did you extrapolate that I said it wouldn't be up today? All I said is that there is not a specific time announced to the reps for the launch.
islandmagic
Well-known member
Hmm PP is losing money because their site been down for two days... I think we all need calm down me included... Keep on trucking we are ready for the new product. PP reps sorry for some of my post
Skigazzi
Active member
So...how long will one bottle of AndroMass priced at over $100 last a person who is running it at the dose that would equate to 480mg of TE per week.
I figure you need to run that amount of TE for 8 weeks minimum, 10-12 ideally, even 15-16, for best results...so how pricey is the 'legal' alternative going to be...thats my concern. We'll quickly know if it works, someone will get a hormone test quickly, and it should show results in bloodwork in a week or two, T levels should measure well over 1000 by then assuming the conversions are accurate.
I figure you need to run that amount of TE for 8 weeks minimum, 10-12 ideally, even 15-16, for best results...so how pricey is the 'legal' alternative going to be...thats my concern. We'll quickly know if it works, someone will get a hormone test quickly, and it should show results in bloodwork in a week or two, T levels should measure well over 1000 by then assuming the conversions are accurate.
BoneDaddy
Well-known member
Strong 1st post. Other aliases?
CA1987
New member
Yeah, 1st post on this site, but just stating my opinion from reading everything that people are saying.
What is your impression of the company?
BoneDaddy
Well-known member
Setbacks and the waiting game aside, PP is by far my favorite supplement company. EVERYTHING I ever used by them works head and shoulders above the rest. I've used the whole line with excellent results.
So you're stating/forming an opinion on hearsay and what you're reading from people being upset about the launch as opposed to the actual quality of their products, which you've never used? Impressive.
Coolazice
Active member
Do you have any experience with the company yourself?
IMO, they are a damn good company... especially in the supplement world!
cbr1000rr
Active member
nevermind just re-read your post. i figure if the reps didnt get an eta, then it wouldnt be up today. just following the pattern over the last couple months. i still like pp tho
Coolazice
Active member
There seems to be a lot of sheep on here that are more than happy to follow the flock rather than getting some first-hand experience and knowledge.
Orangatang
Well-known member
xbure9x
New member
technically more than 2 days, it's been down since saturday and I was ready to make a beta alanine, creatine, and bcaa purchase from them, but had to go elsewhere due to this.
what is the reasoning to shut down EVERYTHING while this is going on? I'm sure I'm not the only one who was going to place an order for something from PP between saturday and today. ouch PP, get this straightened out quickly!
HereToStudy
Primordial Performance Rep
Hmm.. First post, and modified image. :stick:
The website itself is being overhauled. We didn't shut the site down just for the presale, a new design is being implemented.
xbure9x
New member
i understand that, I just think it might have been better to keep the old site open while working on the new one. I'll be the first to admit, I don't know the ins and outs of website creation, but I don't see why you couldn't leave the old one up while working on the new one, and when the new one is completed, just put up the new one and take the old one offline.
like everyone has been saying, this whole saga is annoying as hell, but you guys def do make solid products, and it sucks I had to get my stuff elsewhere this time around because of the site being down for so long.
ryansm
Well-known member
No one Alpha or Beta tested because we wanted to get these out as soon as they were made. I would have loved to log this (as did the other reps) but I am sure you guys would find it bias. Regardless I will be getting some, and paying for it myself, and will log it and you guys who are holding off can take it for what it's worth. I'm sure there will be plenty of logs over these products.
ryansm
Well-known member
It's the same site address I'm no expert either but that would mean we would have to create another site
ryansm
Well-known member
The ester is only there for absorption/conversion purposes, these will act very fast as in hours. Dosing will require 2-3 a day. Each bottle will last 4 weeks.
bikeswimlive
Well-known member
Every time I check this thread, I feel like I am watching the very end of an episode of 24. So many twists and turns.
BoneDaddy
Well-known member
Agreed on the plenty of logs part. I bet no other supplement has/will come under such intense scrutiny. the logs should be fun to follow for sure.
islandmagic
Well-known member
U can create the new web site in a beta a Environment. Then once the new site is ready u can cut over.. U have to do some other things. But very easy.
My team could done it for you
S.K
Member
I would like to help out!
steve74
New member
Maybe you should contact Ferrari also, tell them everyone can't afford a Ferrari.
Evil Eagle
New member
Your team wouldn't be hired by me based just on your inability to spell out the word "you".
Anyway, I feel bad for the reps trying to play damage control. Sorry guys!
Sent from my Android device
islandmagic
Well-known member
You could not afford my team son!!!! STEP BACK U :lmao:
sking6464
Active member
I'd pay $200 for that
200$ for her mouth
sking6464
Active member
it needs to be as innovative as 1-ad was, and strength wise needs to approach some of the claims, or else people will really be turned off from the brand
Rodja
Board Sponsor
Technically, there aren't really any innovative hormones as they're well covered within Vida's text. However, the delivery system is where the innovation lies with regards to the Andro Series.
sking6464
Active member
i knew that, its what i meant, the product as a whole, needs to bring something to the market, a la 1-ad years ago, it changed the industry, and phs become huge....if the andro stuff is as good as advertised, many companies will be scrambling to clone the stuff
the liqua vade did very little imo, and no way was 2-3x more effective......this does look a bit more promising
Freepress
New member
Well, we can all take peace knowing that if these products don't deliver, it will mark the end of Primordial Performance. I'm confident that if they work, the free market will breed competition and eventually competition will mean lower prices.
I'd hate to see Primordial Performance tank. They're the best supplement company I've ever purchased from, but I've been very disappointed with their business management skills in driving home this deal.
Hoping for the best, but prepared for the worst.
I'd hate to see Primordial Performance tank. They're the best supplement company I've ever purchased from, but I've been very disappointed with their business management skills in driving home this deal.
Hoping for the best, but prepared for the worst.
onemind1body
Member
I won't say how many times better etc etc. However I do beg to differ that LV did very little. I'm assuming you didn't get a chance to try PPs tren lv. @ at 90 mg of that, it was far superior to any other tren product I tried at the same dose. Hands down no questions asked. Also, if you were lucky enough to try some superdrone LV you would also know that 10mg of that stuff walked all over mdrol at 10mg or many other sd clones I've tried. I will say halodrol feels the same with LV or not so I realize there are a lot of factors involved but that my two cents. It definitely deserves it's place.
Freepress
New member
One question that has been looming in my mind that I keep forgetting to bring up deals with the FDA. What makes the new formulations DSHEA compliant? Is it the fact they're DHEA derivatives? Are they legal and safe for sale over the long term simply because they're DHEA based? What's to stop an overzealous federal government from coming in and ruling these compounds to be illicit in nature?
sking6464
Active member
damn, i used the tbol lv, and im with you.....i wont touch the sd or tren just because imo their are nasty compounds where the sides outweigh the gains....i have heard the superdrone was excellent, and on par with AX's.....tren i heard was strong, but strong in alot of ways
thanks
Rodja
Board Sponsor
DHEA is DSHEA compliant and, luckily, they have a good lobby for it amongst the anti-aging community.
ImJ2x
Well-known member
As I wait patiently with y'all for the launch of the new website (on a rare day off from work), some thoughts on the subject...
I haven't been paying much attention to this Androseries stuff until very recently; it just seemed like a ton of hype over some crazy-expensive DHEA. But here's what sparked my interest:
I'm now 49, and my test has been declining for years. My plans were always to hold off until 50, and then start HRT/TRT. But as I learn a little, I'm less impressed with HRT. As with any exogenous introduction of testosterone, your body stops producing it's own. And at my age, it would be very difficult to restore what little testicular function I have left; basically, you must commit yourself to HRT for the rest of your life. It would be far better to increase your own natural test production, while simultaneously adding in a little external test to "sweeten the pot." So I devised a strategy to basically "pulse" HRT: 3 days of test (I forget which ester fit this strategy)/hcg (to maintain nuttage), 1 day off to start clearing the test, then 3 days of quick-acting Torem to help boost my nutz. Repeat indefinitely.
But this strategy still requires injections. I have no fear of needles, but they are certainly much more hassle than pills. Especially when flying. When Trauma1 (in the now infamous "retirement" thread) hinted he may one day start his own supp company, I suggested he should invent an orally- (or sublingually or intra-nasally) available form of testosterone. Well I just recently learned that one of these new Androseries thingies (AndroHard?) is exactly that: orally-available test. If it is indeed effective, I might be very interested in pulsing AndroHard (or Mass) with Sustain in my search for the Holy Grail: increasing my own production of test, while simultaneously augmenting it with a little external test.
Waiting for the write-ups...
I haven't been paying much attention to this Androseries stuff until very recently; it just seemed like a ton of hype over some crazy-expensive DHEA. But here's what sparked my interest:
I'm now 49, and my test has been declining for years. My plans were always to hold off until 50, and then start HRT/TRT. But as I learn a little, I'm less impressed with HRT. As with any exogenous introduction of testosterone, your body stops producing it's own. And at my age, it would be very difficult to restore what little testicular function I have left; basically, you must commit yourself to HRT for the rest of your life. It would be far better to increase your own natural test production, while simultaneously adding in a little external test to "sweeten the pot." So I devised a strategy to basically "pulse" HRT: 3 days of test (I forget which ester fit this strategy)/hcg (to maintain nuttage), 1 day off to start clearing the test, then 3 days of quick-acting Torem to help boost my nutz. Repeat indefinitely.
But this strategy still requires injections. I have no fear of needles, but they are certainly much more hassle than pills. Especially when flying. When Trauma1 (in the now infamous "retirement" thread) hinted he may one day start his own supp company, I suggested he should invent an orally- (or sublingually or intra-nasally) available form of testosterone. Well I just recently learned that one of these new Androseries thingies (AndroHard?) is exactly that: orally-available test. If it is indeed effective, I might be very interested in pulsing AndroHard (or Mass) with Sustain in my search for the Holy Grail: increasing my own production of test, while simultaneously augmenting it with a little external test.
Waiting for the write-ups...
Coolazice
Active member
I'm not a rep, but before the site went down the other day - there was still some left for sale. If I'm not mistaken, it was around 250 bottles left and they were on sale for 50% off. I hope this #'s are correct since I can't verify that right now. You could email them and confirm what I said...
specmike
Active member
Pinned I assume or would you ever use the transdermal?
Thinking down the road a bit, I'm wondering how long it will be before people start experimenting by stacking the new PP stuff with existing methyl compounds like Boladrol, SD, Epi, etc? Some one will do it.