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MrKleen73 said:
Man, I have missed so much of this, I have no clue how i didn't know you were logging. I have just seen you [osting and thought I wonder if he is logging and I find 7 months worth of posts. I spent way to long reading various posts trying to catch up.

I hope your knees continue to improve. I am also very hungry now after running through so much food porn. I should be in here from now on as long as the sub doesn't drop or something.
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There's been a lot going on, but not a lot of anything worthwhile lol. It's been a pretty lackluster log and I kind of gave up 🤷. I was having a really good run for a little bit in the beginning, I stalled out within a few months, I started making some strength and size gains again in (April to early may I believe?) and then I want to say sometime in the middle of May everything went to s***.

I also have been on cycle for a really long time, I never got up to any of the doses that I was planning but I just kind of kept the cycle going from like January until a few weeks ago, I had one break in between where I dropped down to just a milliliter of test and then went back on cycle, and now I'm back to just a milliliter of test. So maybe just all around the board I needed to take a break and start over.

I was temporarily excited when I threw the dbol in. I had a 3-day transformation that looked like 2 months worth of progress and then I got heartburn, acid reflux, itchy nipples, and my knee exploded
 
Smont said:
My guy finally has mast back in stock. I'm planning a order for test/mast/HGH for a fall run once everything is feeling better
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I have like 4 bottles of mast I have been holding on to for when I am whole enough to run a cycle. At this point it almost feels like that ain't gonna happen, but I think many of us lifers have gone through periods where things are so broken we feel as if we will never be able to train hard again, then a year or so later we are pushing for some new hard to achieve target and loving life.
 
Smont said:
My guy finally has mast back in stock. I'm planning a order for test/mast/HGH for a fall run once everything is feeling better
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You ever try primo? Not asking for myself or anything, just curious if you liked it since you can handle higher testosterone (so you could take as much as test as you wanted relative to the primo you want to use).
 
Hyde said:
You ever try primo? Not asking for myself or anything, just curious if you liked it since you can handle higher testosterone (so you could take as much as test as you wanted relative to the primo you want to use).
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I've had one bottle ever lol. So I don't quite know how it works for me to be honest it was a long time ago and I haven't picked any up because the price went back through the roof again. I can't find it reasonable price right now. The ,primo 100mg/ml my guy carries is $120 a bottle. His 200mg is 200/ bttl. I'm not one of those people to buy a little bit of something and say hey I'll give it a try. I want to have enough on hand to run my cycle the way that I want to so I'm going to need to purchase quite a few bottles. When the price gets back down to where it used to be around $100 a bottle I'll probably pick up 3-4 and that was my original plan earlier this year. Test/primo/HGH. I know a lot of people seem to not like running their testosterone high but I really feel way better when my testosterone is high. I always wanted as high as I can run it without side effects.

On my next cycle I'm also not going to start low and build my doses up I'm just going to go right in at Pete doses and try to get as much accomplished in 8 to 10 weeks as I can because I know something's going to go wrong 😂

So as of right now for the next one I'm just planning it with masteron instead. I did think about going 50/50 between the two
 
MrKleen73 said:
I have like 4 bottles of mast I have been holding on to for when I am whole enough to run a cycle. At this point it almost feels like that ain't gonna happen, but I think many of us lifers have gone through periods where things are so broken we feel as if we will never be able to train hard again, then a year or so later we are pushing for some new hard to achieve target and loving life.
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Yeah that's kind of how I feel right now, I actually lost a lot of strength in the last few weeks and it was very noticeable these last two workouts I did. My strength is down my muscular endurance is down and my will to train is down although last night I did get a pretty good session in. I just got to get my brain going in the right direction again. The knee pain has been a big part of it and my girl has even made a comment (last night actually) that my legs are shrinking, which stabbed me right in the balls! What a bitch, I briefly thought about telling her she looked fat in her pajama pants lol. Actually it didn't even cross my mind because it would have been a horrible outcome 😂😂😂
 
MrKleen73 said:
I have like 4 bottles of mast I have been holding on to for when I am whole enough to run a cycle. At this point it almost feels like that ain't gonna happen, but I think many of us lifers have gone through periods where things are so broken we feel as if we will never be able to train hard again, then a year or so later we are pushing for some new hard to achieve target and loving life.
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Give me a little update if you don't mind, where are you at right now, how are things feeling, Im probably 4-6 weeks behind in your thread. I had been popping in and reading a couple times a week and then when my knee started I stopped posting and reading as much all around the board
 
Smont said:
Yeah that's kind of how I feel right now, I actually lost a lot of strength in the last few weeks and it was very noticeable these last two workouts I did. My strength is down my muscular endurance is down and my will to train is down although last night I did get a pretty good session in. I just got to get my brain going in the right direction again. The knee pain has been a big part of it and my girl has even made a comment (last night actually) that my legs are shrinking, which stabbed me right in the balls! What a bitch, I briefly thought about telling her she looked fat in her pajama pants lol. Actually it didn't even cross my mind because it would have been a horrible outcome
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How dare she!

But yeah, smart move on not going there. No good will come from that. You'd be in the dog house for at least a week.
 
Smont said:
What a bitch, I briefly thought about telling her she looked fat in her pajama pants lol.
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tread lightly padawn, this is a master jedi level skill that requires incredible execution for it to work in your favor. took me about 25 years to learn how to tell a girl she's fat and have her think its somehow a compliment.
 
Smont said:
Yeah that's kind of how I feel right now, I actually lost a lot of strength in the last few weeks and it was very noticeable these last two workouts I did. My strength is down my muscular endurance is down and my will to train is down although last night I did get a pretty good session in. I just got to get my brain going in the right direction again. The knee pain has been a big part of it and my girl has even made a comment (last night actually) that my legs are shrinking, which stabbed me right in the balls! What a bitch, I briefly thought about telling her she looked fat in her pajama pants lol. Actually it didn't even cross my mind because it would have been a horrible outcome 😂😂😂
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I'm more likely to get in trouble for something that happened in a dream or not at all. I'm fortunate that my wife tells me she has the memory of a squirrel. Our curse is that I'M THE ONE with the memory and I can drop very sharp zings on a seconds notice. Took me our first few years together to realize I have the option of NOT partaking in a fight. lol 😂 😂 😂 😂 Found out one day if I just tell her I'm not fighting with her and go sit on the couch and turn on baseball next I know she's cooking dinner or sitting next to me lol.
 
I feel like there comes a point, where no matter what you do, gains come to a halt. Increasing the dose helps a tiny little, but I usually dont feel good then, and the help from increasing the dose is nothing like the beginning. And I swear if I stopped and started again in 3-4 months I would gain like in the beginning of the previous cycle.

There just seems to be a switch which all of a sudden just seems to turn off. I am in that situation now. On less than 300mg of test in 4 weeks I gained over 10% on my big lifts. Then I had to travel for work for 10 days and in those 10 DAYS i lost everything i gained in those 4 weeks, i had to walk a lot and i lost 12 lbs. I assume mostly muscle unfortunately.
I ate but if I dont lift muscle disappears from me. I also didnt inject, figured whats the point if i cant workout at all, but i only went 2 weeks without a shot (which i was taking 150 mg per shot at a time, so i really shouldnt have gone hypogonadal in that timeframe).

Now it has taken me over 4 weeks to just get to the point where I was 4 weeks into a cycle. And it seems I cant progress past that. I cant add a rep. Even though the scale has gone up, and the fat didnt pile up.

So what to do? Pile the food, get fat? Or accept its over, up the gh and concentrate on leaning out while preserving as much as possible.


It is EXTREMELY frustrating and you just wanna blast to the moon but then you come to your senses and realize you are going to feel sick.

The worst fear is losing strength again, which you piss blood for multiple days a week, months on end.


PS: taking gear, myostatin, all that stuff out of equation, when progress stalls, i find its most often sleep issue. We are all here so sympathetically driven, we train well, eat well, but when it comes to sleep its hard man. Its hard to stay asleep. There is so much %#^#^^# noise, light, everywhere around! And its the dog's heat on top of everything.
 
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