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What are the most ARA-friendly pre-workout, stim- and stimfree? Friendly as in containing all you need for ARA to work and containing more ingredients that is useful pre-workout.

Conqu3r looks great, but I heard Olympus Labs is not a trustworthy company (Invalid Link Removed)
 
HITFrank said:
What are the most ARA-friendly pre-workout, stim- and stimfree? Friendly as in containing all you need for ARA to work and containing more ingredients that is useful pre-workout. Conqu3r looks great, but I heard Olympus Labs is not a trustworthy company (Invalid Link Removed)
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Well as a rep you can take what I say as you wish, but I am currently using Conqu3r-DGE with ArA and the workouts are insane. Now I have only been on this combo for a total of 5 workouts now so I can't give you any definitive results as of yet other than the pumps, focus, and mind/muscle connection are probably the best I've ever experienced.

Also for whatever negative feedback you've heard about OL, look at the positive feedback to counter it 10 fold. But I would rather leave that at that, and not clutter this thread with legitimacy claims.
 
HITFrank said:
What are the most ARA-friendly pre-workout, stim- and stimfree? Friendly as in containing all you need for ARA to work and containing more ingredients that is useful pre-workout. Conqu3r looks great, but I heard Olympus Labs is not a trustworthy company (Invalid Link Removed)
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You don't need anything to make ArA "work".

The addition of GMS and a Carnitine salt are optional to run with ArA.
 
A lot of people adding PA (lecithin) into a ARA stack. That's what I'll be doing next year. Anyone think the lecithin could replace the GMS? (Fat emulsifier)

I'm thinking just one or the other?

ARA + PA + ALCAR looks solid
 
ddfox said:
A lot of people adding PA (lecithin) into a ARA stack. That's what I'll be doing next year. Anyone think the lecithin could replace the GMS? (Fat emulsifier)
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Yes, SL would replace GMS.
 
HITFrank said:
What are the most ARA-friendly pre-workout, stim- and stimfree? Friendly as in containing all you need for ARA to work and containing more ingredients that is useful pre-workout.

Conqu3r looks great, but I heard Olympus Labs is not a trustworthy company (Invalid Link Removed)
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Like the others have said ArA will work without additions BUT CONQU3R has all the ancillaries people recommend for an ArA cycle.
 
ddfox said:
A lot of people adding PA (lecithin) into a ARA stack. That's what I'll be doing next year. Anyone think the lecithin could replace the GMS? (Fat emulsifier)

I'm thinking just one or the other?

ARA + PA + ALCAR looks solid
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Solid stack. The PA can be used as a replacement.

Alcar is also my favourite carnitine salt due to its effects on memory formation.
 
chedapalooza said:
Why has it been recommended to not combine carnitine salts?
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I have no real idea other than I've read it on these forums. If mr.cooper is lurking perhaps he can enlighten us.

I could google it; apparently studies do exist but its late and my brain is full
 
Jiigzz said:
I have no real idea other than I've read it on these forums. If mr.cooper is lurking perhaps he can enlighten us. I could google it; apparently studies do exist but its late and my brain is full
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I believe it was something along the lines of competing with one another. On mobile or else I'd look it up.
 
aaronuconn said:
lol, I hear ya. I do know that by combining two different Carnitine salts, you're making them less effective for there intended ergogenic effects.
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I take alcar daily and the LCLT for the xgels but now I don't wanna drop the LCLT while I break from x gels... I usually take alcar with meals and LCLT with thermos tho.. So they're still rather separate by a couple hours each
 
chedapalooza said:
I take alcar daily and the LCLT for the xgels but now I don't wanna drop the LCLT while I break from x gels... I usually take alcar with meals and LCLT with thermos tho.. So they're still rather separate by a couple hours each
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LCLT needs to be dosed with/around carbohydrates.
 
chedapalooza said:
Oh..Why do we dose with xgels then if it's taken fasted? So I should take lclt with meals then when not taking with xgels?
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If I recall, the fat loss effects are more pronounced when taken with carbs (or anything insulinogenic). In regards to why we take it with ArA, it's optimal to take it alongside the ArA product.
 
chedapalooza said:
Oh..Why do we dose with xgels then if it's taken fasted? So I should take lclt with meals then when not taking with xgels?
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Just dose the LCLT when you are eating something that causes an insulin spike.
 
I just read this


"One strategy I found to work well for both fat loss and performance benefits is to take 2-3 doses of acetyl-L-carnitine with other fat-burning ingredients without food between meals, and to take 1 dose of L-carnitine L-tartrate with a post-workout meal."
 
One more Q' guys…are there any issues taking natural remedies for a cold, like garlic, honey, cayenne pepper with ARA?? thanks!
 
1kerry said:
One more Q' guys…are there any issues taking natural remedies for a cold, like garlic, honey, cayenne pepper with ARA?? thanks!
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nope. you are GTG!!
 
Jiigzz said:
nope. you are GTG!!
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thanks buddy! my Q' looked dummy, but since there are some restrictions with ARA thats why I asked..garlic has anti-flamatory properties and helps joints…have found that garlic and cayenne pepper helps me prevent a strong cold or strep throat, or stop it...
 
1kerry said:
thanks buddy! my Q' looked dummy, but since there are some restrictions with ARA thats why I asked..garlic has anti-flamatory properties and helps joints...have found that garlic and cayenne pepper helps me prevent a strong cold or strep throat, or stop it...
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Just remember that it's COX-2 inhibition you're looking to avoid peri-workout.

I doubt you're consuming such large quantities of garlic around your workout, right? I'm also not sure if garlic's anti-inflammatory properties is driven from COX-2 inhibition in the first place.
 
1kerry said:
thanks buddy! my Q' looked dummy, but since there are some restrictions with ARA thats why I asked..garlic has anti-flamatory properties and helps joints...have found that garlic and cayenne pepper helps me prevent a strong cold or strep throat, or stop it...
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No question is a dumb question! But things like that wouldnt be a concern :)

If it yielded potent cox 2 inhibition I would be concerned
 
xgels and conquer pre workout, should i dose at the same time ? ik the xgels are supposed to be dosed 45 mins pre workout and i usually take my pre right before my gym session but the conquer pre has the ALCAR and GMS in it that why i am curious if i should dose them at the same time
 
rowz4broz said:
xgels and conquer pre workout, should i dose at the same time ? ik the xgels are supposed to be dosed 45 mins pre workout and i usually take my pre right before my gym session but the conquer pre has the ALCAR and GMS in it that why i am curious if i should dose them at the same time
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Same time ~30 mins pre lift. Don't overthink it. If you take them 15 mins before or 45 mins before it is still going to be fine. Definitely take them together though as you want ara dosed alongside carnitine and gms
 
rowz4broz said:
xgels and conquer pre workout, should i dose at the same time ? ik the xgels are supposed to be dosed 45 mins pre workout and i usually take my pre right before my gym session but the conquer pre has the ALCAR and GMS in it that why i am curious if i should dose them at the same time
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I'm currently using this combo as well taking both about 30 min PWO and the timing seems to be perfect. Actually about 4-5 sets into the workout it takes off.
 
hm very interesting with me I've always noticed pre workout to hit me in minutes taking it 30 mins beforehand is going to be an adjustment
 
rowz4broz said:
so basically fish oil and advil ?
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Just take your fish oil more than four hours apart from your ara dose and you will be fine. I would stay away from NSAIDs altogether unless your physician has you taking them for whatever reason.
 
xhrr said:
Just take your fish oil more than four hours apart from your ara dose and you will be fine. I would stay away from NSAIDs altogether unless your physician has you taking them for whatever reason.
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Omega 3's will still displace ArA from the membrane level, even when taken far apart from ArA.
 
xhrr said:
Just take your fish oil more than four hours apart from your ara dose and you will be fine. I would stay away from NSAIDs altogether unless your physician has you taking them for whatever reason.
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Aspirin is an NSAID, which can be used in place of a carnitine, if you're feeling a little cheap ;)
 
I have yet to notice a difference between X Factor original and X Factor advanced
 
hvactech said:
I have yet to notice a difference between X Factor original and X Factor advanced
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I definitely find them equally effective, cap for cap always get the same results with both versions. A little added joint protection (though my joints havent acted up much lately regardless), with the Advanced ].
 
Will xfactor be affected by my pct?

ELIM1NATE
Nolva
DAA
CEL cycle assist
My joints will be shot, any way to counteract it
 
kissdadookie said:
Don't use an AI if you don't have high estro instead of trying to use it as a preventative measure?
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I don't have gyno issues and I don't think I ever will! Every cycle I've run my stomach and sides get really puffy, feel like it's estrogen.
 
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