Testosterone Recovery Stack

Rodja said:
Deca was run a bit short and 12-14 weeks would have been better, but that's not the point. 30 tabs of Clomid is not going to be nearly enough for a PCT for a cycle of that nature.

When was your last shot of test?

The 22nd of December. Pct should start three weeks after first shot. Stop taking hcg. Slam down 3 clomid first day. Then one a day for 30 days?? Or two? Morning and night. I don't NEED to take anything more do I. I was told it was easier to come off the deca with the test still in me.
 
I am going to finish my current cycle, but then I am shifting to making this year about getting lean. Maybe even get those damn abs out this summer. Lean Hard stack? I think so...

I'm interested in your ideas ,suggestions for cutting cycle. We share the same goals
 
The 22nd of December. Pct should start three weeks after first shot. Stop taking hcg. Slam down 3 clomid first day. Then one a day for 30 days?? Or two? Morning and night. I don't NEED to take anything more do I. I was told it was easier to come off the deca with the test still in me.

What did you gain from start to finish?

-Matt
 
15 pounds but lost body fat. I wasn't smart about it and take measurements of arms, bf.. That stuff. I will next time. I am down ten pounds already. Feels good tho because I was feeling bloated. I def have. More muscle then when I started. I thought I would gain more. It must have been something I didn't do right. I plan on training twice as hard and eat as clean as you can on the next run. I really want to just cut up. Do a lean gains cycle.
 
Ya I already have it set up. I feel fine. Didn't have any sides that I can say where Terrible. You sound like I did something wrong with my cycle. When I ask the guys I know what to take for a cycle, that's what they say to take. Idk. Is there a good Cycle you know? I mean shouldn't we all get blood work done?
 
Ya I already have it set up. I feel fine. Didn't have any sides that I can say where Terrible. You sound like I did something wrong with my cycle. When I ask the guys I know what to take for a cycle, that's what they say to take. Idk. Is there a good Cycle you know? I mean shouldn't we all get blood work done?

Everyone should. There is no bad or good cycle (well that's not totally true, but that is the topic for a different thread). A strong focus should always be put on PCT. The reason I suggested bloodwork for YOU is because of your un-easyness towards recovery, or more so your questioning that everything is right. No one here can give you a perfect answer, but bloodwork will.
 
HereToStudy said:
Everyone should. There is no bad or good cycle (well that's not totally true, but that is the topic for a different thread). A strong focus should always be put on PCT. The reason I suggested bloodwork for YOU is because of your un-easyness towards recovery, or more so your questioning that everything is right. No one here can give you a perfect answer, but bloodwork will.

Cool man! Thanks for looking out!
 
Sustain Alpha

I'm about to start H Drol and I was planning on just taking Sustain Alpha after. I wonder if that will be enough since I am only going through one bottle. This will be my first cycle ever.
 
I'm about to start H Drol and I was planning on just taking Sustain Alpha after. I wonder if that will be enough since I am only going through one bottle. This will be my first cycle ever.

If you are looking to avoid using a SERM, I would suggest using the entire Testosterone Recovery Stack. It will cost more, but this is your hormone regulation we are talking here.
 
Not trying to hijack your guys' thread, but why are people so adverse to using a proper SERM these days... I just don't understand.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
Not trying to hijack your guys' thread, but why are people so adverse to using a proper SERM these days... I just don't understand.

ManBeast

No sh!t... I'd your running anything hormonal, wouldn't you want to raise your odds of recovery by using proven methods? Plus your already taking a chance with your body w hormones, so why not keep rolling the dice with a serm!?! My rats love them some serm...
 
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot about what the guys at Primordial have put together, but even their reps tend to reccomend a serm alongside it for all but the mildest of cycles.

ManBeast
 
I like Aromasin....

I am a nut case and avoid anything that could lower IGf-1 levels and also I hate any hepatoxicity.

Aromasin + TRS is a great PCT stack along side other non hormonal goodies... from some great sponsors and non sponsors hehe..

-Matt
 
I like Aromasin....

I am a nut case and avoid anything that could lower IGf-1 levels and also I hate any hepatoxicity.

Aromasin + TRS is a great PCT stack along side other non hormonal goodies... from some great sponsors and non sponsors hehe..

-Matt

We will have to disagree here Matt:) What dose are you running on the Aromasin
 
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot about what the guys at Primordial have put together, but even their reps tend to reccomend a serm alongside it for all but the mildest of cycles.

ManBeast
Sure do, thing is the TRS allows me to use a lower dose and I feel like I get better/quicker overall recovery and have less exposure to the SERM. Win/Win in my book.
 
Now if only you braniacs would come out with an OTC SERM so I can stop layin the smackdown on noobs multiple times a day... :D

ManBeast
 
F*ckin teases ;) :D

ManBeast
 
Where can u find trs and torem
 
An older post by Eric but still relevant


Note: PCT article here was added 2/13/09


Dear Member,


I'm proud to present the official Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) of 2009.


If you're considering using pro-hormones, or even illegal anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS’s), then you should read this article before going any further.


Some information given here will be new, some will be old, but all of it is based off successful real-world protocols developed from the counseling of hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders worldwide. The information presented here will allow you to come clean from a cycle while keeping your gains, surging your sex drive, and making you feel healthier than you ever have before.


Before we get into the details I want to illustrate several major problems with the average PCT protocol -





Mega-Dosing of SERMs​



There is no doubt that SERMs (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators) such as Clomid and Nolvadex can stimulate testosterone production.


Unfortunately, these drugs can have a host of side effects including -

  • Liver Toxicity
  • Reduced Libido
  • Ocular Toxicity/Blurred Vision
  • Emotional Side-effects
Clomid in particular can lead to emotional side-effects and cause a man to feel like a weeping and emotionally distressed pregnant woman. This is because Clomid acts like an estrogen in certain parts of the brain and causes serious emotional episodes. To read more about the side-effects of SERM's, read this Invalid Link Removed.


In the “Perfect PCT” section below we will discuss the proper use of SERM’s for PCT.






Over Use of Anti-Estrogens​



Aromatase inhibitors (AI's) such as Arimidex, Aromasin, and Formestane are powerful tools for reducing estrogen conversion from heavily aromatizing drugs such as Testosterone or Dianabol. While these drugs are sometimes useful during cycle, these drugs are often counter-productive to use during PCT.


More specifically, it is a common misconception that estrogen will be elevated post cycle. Generally, estrogen is below a normal level after a cycle, especially if the cycle consisted primarily of non-aromatizing (non-estrogenic) AAS's or pro-hormones. Additionally, if one uses proper anti-estrogen's during a cycle with aromatizing AAS's then estrogen will not be elevated in this scenario either. Therefore, assuming proper AI's are used during cycle, I can only recommend an AI be used for PCT if hCG is also used.


Using AI's when they are not needed can lead to extremely low estrogen, which can cause the following side-effects -

  • Lower Sex Drive / Erectile dysfunction
  • Joint Pain
  • Lower HDL levels
  • Increased Risk of Heart Disease
Ultimately, this hurts your long and short term recovery and does not benefit you. Don't forget, normal levels of estrogen are necessary to support libido, muscle recovery, and testicular function.






Improper use of hCG​



Using hCG after the cycle is the least effective way to use hCG.


You see, when you're on steroids, your brain cuts off the signal to the testes, and your testes stop producing testosterone. Once this happens, your testes shutdown, start to shrink, and become unresponsive to stimulation from the brain (essentially, the testes become desensitized). This is the reason why alot of guys never recover from a steroid cycle even after using tons of hCG and SERM's -- because the testes have stayed inactive for too long and have become permanently desensitized.


Here are a list of problems you can have from waiting untill the end of a cycle to use hCG -

  • High Possibility of Permanent Testicular Damage/Desensitization
  • Higher hCG Dose Requirement
  • Higher Conversion Rate to Estrogen
For a fast and quick recovery of testosterone production after a cycle, you must avoid the long-periods of suppression. Once your testes go unused for too long, it is virtually impossible to get them to come back full strength, no matter how much hCG you take. For more detailed information on testicular degeneration of testicular function during a steroid cycle, see this Invalid Link Removed.





hCG during cycle - The Proper use of hCG



For any cycle longer than 6 weeks, you need to get your hands on some hCG and use it during the cycle. A small dose will keep the testes running as normal during cycle, so they can jump back on track when the cycle is over. Plus, when you use hCG during the cycle, you don't need to use it for PCT.


On-cycle hCG forces your testes to continue producing testosterone as they normally would. The trick with on-cycle hCG use is to avoid using too much, too frequently (which can also desensitize your testes the same as not using any at all!). It’s important to use just enough to stimulate the testes to produce the same amount of testosterone they would normally.


Check out the simple hCG dosing guidelines -


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* Every 4 days = Shoot on Monday, then on Friday, then on Tuesday, ect.


† AI - Aromatase Inhibitor (While taking 1000iu shots, I recommend 10mg/ED of Aromasin or .5mg/ED Arimidex to keep estrogen in control. Legal alternatives include Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed which are also effective aromatase inhibitors. Discontinue AI 4 days after last hCG shot.)​

If you are doing the on-cycle hCG protocol it is important to discontinue hCG 2 weeks prior to AAS clearance. Therefore, when you officially start PCT you will be clean of all AAS's and will be 14 days from your last hCG shot. This allows your testes to become re-sensitized to the body's LH signal from the brain, making for a quick recovery of natural testosterone production as soon as the steroids and hCG clear the system. This is another reason why on-cycle hCG is superior, because it allows you to start recovering as soon as PCT begins.


If you aren't doing hCG on-cycle, then use hCG according to the "last 2 weeks or after the cycle" guidelines, and start it 4-5 weeks before the AAS's are expected to clear the system (Or as soon as possible if you are already past this point).


For AAS clearance times, see the table in the last section.





The Perfect PCT


Since SERMs can help stimulate testosterone production, we will allow them in our PCT, but at a much lower dose that what most “forum gurus” suggest. The goal with SERM’s is to dose them for maximum benefit with minimal side-effects, and only use them when they are necessary. If your cycle is longer than 6 weeks, and you are not running hCG during the cycle, then I recommend a SERM during PCT in combination with the Invalid Link Removed (TRS) -- A completely legal, natural, tried & true PCT stack. (about to be discussed)


I recommend the following SERM’s, in order of most to least desirable –

Toremifene – 40mg/day
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 10mg/day
Clomid (Clomiphene) – 25mg/day​


As I mentioned above, hCG should be used for any cycle longer than 6 weeks. If you follow the proper hCG protocol, then it will be much easier to recover for PCT, and the TRS alone will be sufficient for recovery. However, if hCG was not used, then you will likely benefit from stacking one of the above listed SERM’s with the TRS. (since you will need all the help you can get)


The TRS has proven to be so safe & effective, that guys are shunning Clomid and Nolvadex every chance they get and using the TRS alone for PCT. Hundreds of testimonials and dozens of blood tests from real life customers have proven the Testosterone Recovery Stack to be just as effective as a SERM for PCT, but without the side effects. For those that may want additional support for PCT, the TRS stacks synergistically with low responsible doses of SERMs. (Just checkout the PCT Stacking Guideline table below)


So what exactly is the TRS?


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The main product in the TRS is the legendary Invalid Link Removed -- a natural testosterone boosting topical cream.


It's no surprise that Sustain Alpha is the foundation of the TRS. It’s powerful active ingredients are pulled through the skin and straight to the blood stream with our advanced topical delivery formula. Once in the blood, they are carried to the brain – right where they start triggering the testes to produce testosterone like a fountain of youth.


Speaking of the triggering testosterone production; How does Sustain Alpha work?


The main ingredients in Sustain Alpha – resveratrol and 7,8-benzoflavone – are natural anti-estrogens. However, both of these compounds have proven to be more like estrogen balancers as blood tests have revealed that Sustain Alpha can raise estrogen if it is too low or lower estrogen if it is too high – therefore offering the ideal solution for virtually any individual.


You see, a little estrogen is a good thing. Too low of estrogen can reduce libido, inhibit recovery, and hurt heart health by raising bad cholesterol. (a typical side-effect of using pharmaceuticals like Arimidex or Aromasin which can overly suppress estrogen levels as I mentioned earlier)


So the question is…


If Sustain Alpha isn't significantly inhibiting estrogen, then how exactly is it significantly increasing LH, FSH and natural testosterone levels?


Before jumping into the science let me give you a brief background on hormone production -



Basic Hormone Production
The Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis (HPTA)



In a normal healthy male luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) are sent from the brain (the pituitary) to stimulate the testes to make testosterone and sperm.


The release of LH & FSH from the pituitary is stimulated by Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is stimulated to produce GnRH when it senses low levels of testosterone and estrogen. (hypothalamus [GnRH] --- > pituitary [LH & FSH]--- > testes [testosterone])


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On the other hand, when the brain detects high levels of testosterone and estrogen it suppresses the release of GnRH, LH & FSH, and eventually testosterone production. This is called the negative feedback loop – the normal daily rhythm of hormone production.


Traditionally, boosting LH & FSH to stimulate testosterone involved the use of a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) to directly block estrogen at the receptor (eg, Clomid & Nolvadex) or inhibition of estrogen formation by blocking the aromatase enzyme with aromatase inhibitors (eg, ATD, 6-bromo, formestane, Aromasin, Letrozol, ect).




Now on to the science on what makes Sustain Alpha so unique...


Recently, it has been found that the main ingredient in Sustain Alpha – the naturally occurring flavone 7,8-Benzoflavone -- increases testosterone production by preventing the negative feedback of testosterone and estrogen on the hypothalamus through GABAergic modulation.


That's right, GABAergic modulation, but please let me explain before jumping out of your seat.


As you may know, γ-amino-butyric acid (GABA) is an inhibitory neurotransmitter known to play an important role in sleep, learning, memory and pain sensation. In fact, GABA supplements are often used to promote relaxation and sleep. However, the GABAergic system is a tremendously complex family of receptors which interact not only with GABA, but hundreds of other neuro-active chemicals all throughout the body.


The important thing to understand here is that GABA and GABAergic transmission are two separate things.


With that in mind, researchers are just beginning to understand how the GABAergic system regulates the hypothalamus and GnRH secretion.


So far, it's been established that there is no androgen receptor (AR) or estrogen receptor (ER) on GnRH releasing neurons. This is fascinating, because it means that steroid hormones such as testosterone and estrogen must communicate with GnRH neurons through intermediaries. Meaning, steroid hormones must signal the release of certain neurotransmitters to suppress GnRH secretion in the hypothalamus. One of the neurotransmitter systems involved in this communication process is the GABAergic system.


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As you can imagine, if the neurotransmitters can be blocked or antagonized, then suppression from steroid hormones can be reduced or possibly eliminated. By blocking the suppression, this allows the hypothalamus to continue secreting GnRH, thus allowing the testes to continue pumping out testosterone like they never missed a beat!


7,8-benzoflavone is a neuro-active flavone that reaches the hypothalamus and binds to the GABAergic receptors that modulate GnRH release. In fact, animal studies have already shown 7,8-benzoflavone can prevent the drug related decline in LH, FSH and testosterone production. By interacting with the GABAergic receptors, 7,8-benzoflavone is able to offset hypothalamic suppression of GnRH from steroid hormones.


We realized the incredible potential of this flavone, and recently increased the concentration of 7,8-benzoflavone by 15% in the newest 5.0 formula. Now, Sustain Alpha is more potent than ever.


So what does this mean for a guy wanting to boost testosterone?


This means LH & FSH levels can be boosted quickly and effectively without overly suppressing estrogen and sacrificing overall health. This means Sustain Alpha is perfect for any PCT, or any male wishing to optimize his "male performance" with higher testosterone levels. This also means that Sustain Alpha is unlike anything else on the market.


Yet, there is one factor that will keep you from getting maximum gains from Sustain Alpha, and that is testicular sensitivity.


Let me explain…


No matter how much LH & FSH the brain secretes, the testes won't secrete testosterone if they are desensitized to LH & FSH. (remember, this can happen from too much, or not enough LH & FSH stimulation)


Therefore, maintaining testicular sensitivity is critical, and this is precisely what Invalid Link Removed was designed for.


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Toco-8 is a powdered tocotrienol supplement proven to increase testicular sensitivity. When taken with Sustain Alpha, a powerful synergy occurs. By increasing testicular sensitivity, Toco-8 makes Sustain Alpha 3-4x more effective, thus allowing the body to produce more testosterone than it ever could before. Research has also proven that Toco-8 can increase the effectiveness of hCG by the same mechanism. Consider Toco-8 the beginning of a great testicular awakening – critical for a strong testosterone response to LH & FSH stimulation.


The final piece of the TRS is cortisol control.


Cortisol is a nasty stress hormone that can breakdown muscle tissue and reduce the ability of the body to produce testosterone. This is especially bad during PCT when getting testosterone levels up as quickly as possible is the #1 goal.


For reducing the damaging effects of cortisol we created Invalid Link Removed.


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Each serving of EndoAmp gains a scientifically proven 800mg dose of phosphatidylserine (PS). This is the exact same dose used in human clinical trials to suppress cortisol, raise testosterone and prevent muscle breakdown. PS is a very important naturally occurring phospholipid which helps reduce stress related catabolism and cortisol release.




Recap



Take hCG during the cycle if your cycle is over 6 weeks (follow the guidelines above for hCG dosing).


For PCT, use the Invalid Link Removed, which includes the testosterone surging Sustain Alpha, the testicular sensitizer Toco-8, and the cortisol blocker EndoAmp. Stack this with a low dose SERM if desired (see stacking guidelines below).


To make things easy just follow the below table for when to discontinue AAS’s prior to PCT -


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Then follow this table for PCT -

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* Toremifene is the #1 perferred SERM, followed by Nolvadex, followed by Clomid.


Notes:


Apply Sustain Alpha anytime of the day, after a shower. Use 5 days on, 2 days off.
Take Toco-8 anytime during the day with or without food.
Take 2 scoops of EndoAmp after workouts or in the morning on non-workout days.


Make no mistake, the TRS is one of the most powerful testosterone simulating stacks on the market, but don’t take my word for it. Jump on Google or any major bodybuilding forum and put in a search for the above products -- you will see they are the real deal, backed by thousands of positive reviews from actual users.


I’d like to thank you for reading the Official PCT for 2009 and supporting Invalid Link Removed!


Yours in health & fitness,


Eric Potratz
Primordial Founder & President


Questions?


Phone – 1-800-568-2924
Email - [email protected]
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Wonderful writeup, and I really have to give Eric credit for not dismissing SERMs totally (like some other company), but explaining how they can work synergistically with the TRS.
 
This stack actually does work. Didnt care much for the EndoAmp.

I came off of a Test Deca cycle a while ago, used Sustain Alpha and Toco-8 with Tamox (20mg ed), After a month my testosterone levels were up to 500 (Which wasnt bad because i was shutdown pretty hard from Test and Deca, i ran it for a while).

Went back on and never came off lol. But yeah this stuff works.
 
Out of curiousity, how long have you been on, and at what dosage?

Over a year, i usually cruise @ 400 ive dropped lower to see if i could feel the diff and i did. I feel great @ 400!. My bloodwork shows my testosterone being at undetectable levels, (I guess it doesnt go over 1400, at least where i am it doesnt) but its over 1400 @ 400mg a week.
 
Wonderful writeup, and I really have to give Eric credit for not dismissing SERMs totally (like some other company), but explaining how they can work synergistically with the TRS.
Ya we are actually augmenting the TRS, so it is going to get better:)
 
Very nice indeed :) TRS v3 huh?
 
ca-ching! Hopefully this will be out in time for me to test on my winter bulker.
 
Over a year, i usually cruise @ 400 ive dropped lower to see if i could feel the diff and i did. I feel great @ 400!. My bloodwork shows my testosterone being at undetectable levels, (I guess it doesnt go over 1400, at least where i am it doesnt) but its over 1400 @ 400mg a week.

Thats fairly standard (the reading limit) for most generic hormone tests. I think the lab I use caps at 1500. Have you monitored health during this year? How was bloodwork at various stages. Most guys who run for a year straight will alternate between higher and lower doses.
 
Thats fairly standard (the reading limit) for most generic hormone tests. I think the lab I use caps at 1500. Have you monitored health during this year? How was bloodwork at various stages. Most guys who run for a year straight will alternate between higher and lower doses.

I def use to play with doses 200-300-400-500. 500 was too much for a long time, but 400 is where im happy at. HCG every few months im good!
 
An older post by Eric but still relevant


Note: PCT article here was added 2/13/09


Dear Member,


I'm proud to present the official Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) of 2009.


If you're considering using pro-hormones, or even illegal anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS’s), then you should read this article before going any further.


Some information given here will be new, some will be old, but all of it is based off successful real-world protocols developed from the counseling of hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders worldwide. The information presented here will allow you to come clean from a cycle while keeping your gains, surging your sex drive, and making you feel healthier than you ever have before.


Before we get into the details I want to illustrate several major problems with the average PCT protocol -





Mega-Dosing of SERMs​



There is no doubt that SERMs (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators) such as Clomid and Nolvadex can stimulate testosterone production.


Unfortunately, these drugs can have a host of side effects including -
  • Liver Toxicity
  • Reduced Libido
  • Ocular Toxicity/Blurred Vision
  • Emotional Side-effects
Clomid in particular can lead to emotional side-effects and cause a man to feel like a weeping and emotionally distressed pregnant woman. This is because Clomid acts like an estrogen in certain parts of the brain and causes serious emotional episodes. To read more about the side-effects of SERM's, read this Invalid Link Removed.


In the “Perfect PCT” section below we will discuss the proper use of SERM’s for PCT.






Over Use of Anti-Estrogens​



Aromatase inhibitors (AI's) such as Arimidex, Aromasin, and Formestane are powerful tools for reducing estrogen conversion from heavily aromatizing drugs such as Testosterone or Dianabol. While these drugs are sometimes useful during cycle, these drugs are often counter-productive to use during PCT.


More specifically, it is a common misconception that estrogen will be elevated post cycle. Generally, estrogen is below a normal level after a cycle, especially if the cycle consisted primarily of non-aromatizing (non-estrogenic) AAS's or pro-hormones. Additionally, if one uses proper anti-estrogen's during a cycle with aromatizing AAS's then estrogen will not be elevated in this scenario either. Therefore, assuming proper AI's are used during cycle, I can only recommend an AI be used for PCT if hCG is also used.


Using AI's when they are not needed can lead to extremely low estrogen, which can cause the following side-effects -
  • Lower Sex Drive / Erectile dysfunction
  • Joint Pain
  • Lower HDL levels
  • Increased Risk of Heart Disease
Ultimately, this hurts your long and short term recovery and does not benefit you. Don't forget, normal levels of estrogen are necessary to support libido, muscle recovery, and testicular function.






Improper use of hCG​



Using hCG after the cycle is the least effective way to use hCG.


You see, when you're on steroids, your brain cuts off the signal to the testes, and your testes stop producing testosterone. Once this happens, your testes shutdown, start to shrink, and become unresponsive to stimulation from the brain (essentially, the testes become desensitized). This is the reason why alot of guys never recover from a steroid cycle even after using tons of hCG and SERM's -- because the testes have stayed inactive for too long and have become permanently desensitized.


Here are a list of problems you can have from waiting untill the end of a cycle to use hCG -
  • High Possibility of Permanent Testicular Damage/Desensitization
  • Higher hCG Dose Requirement
  • Higher Conversion Rate to Estrogen
For a fast and quick recovery of testosterone production after a cycle, you must avoid the long-periods of suppression. Once your testes go unused for too long, it is virtually impossible to get them to come back full strength, no matter how much hCG you take. For more detailed information on testicular degeneration of testicular function during a steroid cycle, see this Invalid Link Removed.





hCG during cycle - The Proper use of hCG



For any cycle longer than 6 weeks, you need to get your hands on some hCG and use it during the cycle. A small dose will keep the testes running as normal during cycle, so they can jump back on track when the cycle is over. Plus, when you use hCG during the cycle, you don't need to use it for PCT.


On-cycle hCG forces your testes to continue producing testosterone as they normally would. The trick with on-cycle hCG use is to avoid using too much, too frequently (which can also desensitize your testes the same as not using any at all!). It’s important to use just enough to stimulate the testes to produce the same amount of testosterone they would normally.


Check out the simple hCG dosing guidelines -


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* Every 4 days = Shoot on Monday, then on Friday, then on Tuesday, ect.


† AI - Aromatase Inhibitor (While taking 1000iu shots, I recommend 10mg/ED of Aromasin or .5mg/ED Arimidex to keep estrogen in control. Legal alternatives include Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed which are also effective aromatase inhibitors. Discontinue AI 4 days after last hCG shot.)​

If you are doing the on-cycle hCG protocol it is important to discontinue hCG 2 weeks prior to AAS clearance. Therefore, when you officially start PCT you will be clean of all AAS's and will be 14 days from your last hCG shot. This allows your testes to become re-sensitized to the body's LH signal from the brain, making for a quick recovery of natural testosterone production as soon as the steroids and hCG clear the system. This is another reason why on-cycle hCG is superior, because it allows you to start recovering as soon as PCT begins.


If you aren't doing hCG on-cycle, then use hCG according to the "last 2 weeks or after the cycle" guidelines, and start it 4-5 weeks before the AAS's are expected to clear the system (Or as soon as possible if you are already past this point).


For AAS clearance times, see the table in the last section.





The Perfect PCT


Since SERMs can help stimulate testosterone production, we will allow them in our PCT, but at a much lower dose that what most “forum gurus” suggest. The goal with SERM’s is to dose them for maximum benefit with minimal side-effects, and only use them when they are necessary. If your cycle is longer than 6 weeks, and you are not running hCG during the cycle, then I recommend a SERM during PCT in combination with the Invalid Link Removed (TRS) -- A completely legal, natural, tried & true PCT stack. (about to be discussed)


I recommend the following SERM’s, in order of most to least desirable –
Toremifene – 40mg/day
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) – 10mg/day
Clomid (Clomiphene) – 25mg/day​


As I mentioned above, hCG should be used for any cycle longer than 6 weeks. If you follow the proper hCG protocol, then it will be much easier to recover for PCT, and the TRS alone will be sufficient for recovery. However, if hCG was not used, then you will likely benefit from stacking one of the above listed SERM’s with the TRS. (since you will need all the help you can get)


The TRS has proven to be so safe & effective, that guys are shunning Clomid and Nolvadex every chance they get and using the TRS alone for PCT. Hundreds of testimonials and dozens of blood tests from real life customers have proven the Testosterone Recovery Stack to be just as effective as a SERM for PCT, but without the side effects. For those that may want additional support for PCT, the TRS stacks synergistically with low responsible doses of SERMs. (Just checkout the PCT Stacking Guideline table below)


So what exactly is the TRS?


Invalid Link Removed


The main product in the TRS is the legendary Invalid Link Removed -- a natural testosterone boosting topical cream.


It's no surprise that Sustain Alpha is the foundation of the TRS. It’s powerful active ingredients are pulled through the skin and straight to the blood stream with our advanced topical delivery formula. Once in the blood, they are carried to the brain – right where they start triggering the testes to produce testosterone like a fountain of youth.


Speaking of the triggering testosterone production; How does Sustain Alpha work?


The main ingredients in Sustain Alpha – resveratrol and 7,8-benzoflavone – are natural anti-estrogens. However, both of these compounds have proven to be more like estrogen balancers as blood tests have revealed that Sustain Alpha can raise estrogen if it is too low or lower estrogen if it is too high – therefore offering the ideal solution for virtually any individual.


You see, a little estrogen is a good thing. Too low of estrogen can reduce libido, inhibit recovery, and hurt heart health by raising bad cholesterol. (a typical side-effect of using pharmaceuticals like Arimidex or Aromasin which can overly suppress estrogen levels as I mentioned earlier)


So the question is…


If Sustain Alpha isn't significantly inhibiting estrogen, then how exactly is it significantly increasing LH, FSH and natural testosterone levels?


Before jumping into the science let me give you a brief background on hormone production -


Basic Hormone Production
The Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis (HPTA)



In a normal healthy male luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) are sent from the brain (the pituitary) to stimulate the testes to make testosterone and sperm.


The release of LH & FSH from the pituitary is stimulated by Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is stimulated to produce GnRH when it senses low levels of testosterone and estrogen. (hypothalamus [GnRH] --- > pituitary [LH & FSH]--- > testes [testosterone])


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On the other hand, when the brain detects high levels of testosterone and estrogen it suppresses the release of GnRH, LH & FSH, and eventually testosterone production. This is called the negative feedback loop – the normal daily rhythm of hormone production.


Traditionally, boosting LH & FSH to stimulate testosterone involved the use of a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) to directly block estrogen at the receptor (eg, Clomid & Nolvadex) or inhibition of estrogen formation by blocking the aromatase enzyme with aromatase inhibitors (eg, ATD, 6-bromo, formestane, Aromasin, Letrozol, ect).




Now on to the science on what makes Sustain Alpha so unique...


Recently, it has been found that the main ingredient in Sustain Alpha – the naturally occurring flavone 7,8-Benzoflavone -- increases testosterone production by preventing the negative feedback of testosterone and estrogen on the hypothalamus through GABAergic modulation.


That's right, GABAergic modulation, but please let me explain before jumping out of your seat.


As you may know, γ-amino-butyric acid (GABA) is an inhibitory neurotransmitter known to play an important role in sleep, learning, memory and pain sensation. In fact, GABA supplements are often used to promote relaxation and sleep. However, the GABAergic system is a tremendously complex family of receptors which interact not only with GABA, but hundreds of other neuro-active chemicals all throughout the body.


The important thing to understand here is that GABA and GABAergic transmission are two separate things.


With that in mind, researchers are just beginning to understand how the GABAergic system regulates the hypothalamus and GnRH secretion.


So far, it's been established that there is no androgen receptor (AR) or estrogen receptor (ER) on GnRH releasing neurons. This is fascinating, because it means that steroid hormones such as testosterone and estrogen must communicate with GnRH neurons through intermediaries. Meaning, steroid hormones must signal the release of certain neurotransmitters to suppress GnRH secretion in the hypothalamus. One of the neurotransmitter systems involved in this communication process is the GABAergic system.


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As you can imagine, if the neurotransmitters can be blocked or antagonized, then suppression from steroid hormones can be reduced or possibly eliminated. By blocking the suppression, this allows the hypothalamus to continue secreting GnRH, thus allowing the testes to continue pumping out testosterone like they never missed a beat!


7,8-benzoflavone is a neuro-active flavone that reaches the hypothalamus and binds to the GABAergic receptors that modulate GnRH release. In fact, animal studies have already shown 7,8-benzoflavone can prevent the drug related decline in LH, FSH and testosterone production. By interacting with the GABAergic receptors, 7,8-benzoflavone is able to offset hypothalamic suppression of GnRH from steroid hormones.


We realized the incredible potential of this flavone, and recently increased the concentration of 7,8-benzoflavone by 15% in the newest 5.0 formula. Now, Sustain Alpha is more potent than ever.


So what does this mean for a guy wanting to boost testosterone?


This means LH & FSH levels can be boosted quickly and effectively without overly suppressing estrogen and sacrificing overall health. This means Sustain Alpha is perfect for any PCT, or any male wishing to optimize his "male performance" with higher testosterone levels. This also means that Sustain Alpha is unlike anything else on the market.


Yet, there is one factor that will keep you from getting maximum gains from Sustain Alpha, and that is testicular sensitivity.


Let me explain…


No matter how much LH & FSH the brain secretes, the testes won't secrete testosterone if they are desensitized to LH & FSH. (remember, this can happen from too much, or not enough LH & FSH stimulation)


Therefore, maintaining testicular sensitivity is critical, and this is precisely what Invalid Link Removed was designed for.


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Toco-8 is a powdered tocotrienol supplement proven to increase testicular sensitivity. When taken with Sustain Alpha, a powerful synergy occurs. By increasing testicular sensitivity, Toco-8 makes Sustain Alpha 3-4x more effective, thus allowing the body to produce more testosterone than it ever could before. Research has also proven that Toco-8 can increase the effectiveness of hCG by the same mechanism. Consider Toco-8 the beginning of a great testicular awakening – critical for a strong testosterone response to LH & FSH stimulation.


The final piece of the TRS is cortisol control.


Cortisol is a nasty stress hormone that can breakdown muscle tissue and reduce the ability of the body to produce testosterone. This is especially bad during PCT when getting testosterone levels up as quickly as possible is the #1 goal.


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Each serving of EndoAmp gains a scientifically proven 800mg dose of phosphatidylserine (PS). This is the exact same dose used in human clinical trials to suppress cortisol, raise testosterone and prevent muscle breakdown. PS is a very important naturally occurring phospholipid which helps reduce stress related catabolism and cortisol release.




Recap



Take hCG during the cycle if your cycle is over 6 weeks (follow the guidelines above for hCG dosing).


For PCT, use the Invalid Link Removed, which includes the testosterone surging Sustain Alpha, the testicular sensitizer Toco-8, and the cortisol blocker EndoAmp. Stack this with a low dose SERM if desired (see stacking guidelines below).


To make things easy just follow the below table for when to discontinue AAS’s prior to PCT -


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Then follow this table for PCT -

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* Toremifene is the #1 perferred SERM, followed by Nolvadex, followed by Clomid.


Notes:


Apply Sustain Alpha anytime of the day, after a shower. Use 5 days on, 2 days off.
Take Toco-8 anytime during the day with or without food.
Take 2 scoops of EndoAmp after workouts or in the morning on non-workout days.


Make no mistake, the TRS is one of the most powerful testosterone simulating stacks on the market, but don’t take my word for it. Jump on Google or any major bodybuilding forum and put in a search for the above products -- you will see they are the real deal, backed by thousands of positive reviews from actual users.


I’d like to thank you for reading the Official PCT for 2009 and supporting Invalid Link Removed!


Yours in health & fitness,


Eric Potratz
Primordial Founder & President


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