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Testing for Superdrol possible?

No, I think caffiene is ok. But there might be an upper limit as to amount.

Sooooo, PheraPlex and EMax do in fact contain desoxymethyltestosterone?
 
jmh80 said:
No, I think caffiene is ok. But there might be an upper limit as to amount.

Sooooo, PheraPlex and EMax do in fact contain desoxymethyltestosterone?
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Desoxymethyltestosterone is a bit misleading. It's the delta-2 modification.
 
Ok, ok. But it is the same "designer steroid" that Don Caitlin's lab at UCLA had found a few months ago?
 
bigross1127 said:
im considering taking emax a few months from now. probably jan or feb. there is a chance i would get tested in may. would it be out of my system and undetectable by then?
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Invalid Link Removed You're only 20. You shouldn't even be posting in this forum. Read the forum rules.
 
bigross1127 said:
david4zero8, i appreciate the concern, but i turn 21 in a couple months so is it really that big of a deal?
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That really just depends on whether or not you think forum rules and the guidelines they set are that big of a deal.
 
Oh yes it is big deal.. not following the board rules is a quick way to find yourself out of AM due to banning
 
crimsonice5656 said:
Dr. D,

I was wondering how long you would estimate, pure guess work is fine, Superdrol would be seen on a mass spec or LC if it were possible?

Thanks
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It can be identified on a MS/GC right now! But it's still legal as far as I know even if they do ID it. That may change, but it will be awhile before a qualified reference standard is available, but it probably isn't going to be USP material. I don't know who makes these for government or sports orgs stuff. Maybe 6 months before a std is available so that LC is possible too. That gives you some time, because I doubt it's detectable after about 4 months, max. I could be wrong.
 
salv said:
How long does one have to wait before Phera is detected/out of the system?
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I'm unsure, but the info is probably out there somewhere. 2-ene has been on the map for a few years now as far as detection and ID. Let me know if you dig anything up on it.
 
Well 'm def gonna start looking....I was thinking of entering a powerlifting comp here in Sydney next year and wondering how long before the contest should I stop a cycle.
 
Almost all steroid test are actually done by check you test levels. Very high or very low raise a flag. Then they look for specific compounds normally.

Its expensive to test and most organizations don't want to waste that kind of money. Most labs charge per compound, its easy and cheap to just screen based on test levels. I recall reading that some people with naturally low test were confronted/accused of steroid use. The idea wast that most will spill their guts when confronted with it, again saving them money.

So aside from being too young to use SD, simple blood work will show you test levels are very very low and will raise a flag or two
 
So even on a standard piss test that uses a mass spec. to detect metabolites of recreational drugs, it's possible that the presence of PP could show up and cause question and / or a retest?
 
Either way, SD & DMT are on the 2006 WADA Prohibited List, so there is most likely some test to detect it.

SD is listed as Methasterone.
 
Magickk said:
So even on a standard piss test that uses a mass spec. to detect metabolites of recreational drugs, it's possible that the presence of PP could show up and cause question and / or a retest?
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Yeah, there will be a peak there in the chromo. But if there is no PP reference standard to compare it to, what is that peak? They may or may not notice it, but if the retention time is not defined with any known standard, it is safe. You can't ban "it" if you can't even say what "it" is? Make sense? Once there is a validated method and standard, then it will be defined and tested for. Same with SD or any new compound. It must be defined and a method validated to detect it legally.
 
halodrol and superdorol

with what u know, would halodrol or superdorol show up on a test. (ncaa) thanks
 
DR.D said:
Yeah, there will be a peak there in the chromo. But if there is no PP reference standard to compare it to, what is that peak? They may or may not notice it, but if the retention time is not defined with any known standard, it is safe. You can't ban "it" if you can't even say what "it" is? Make sense? Once there is a validated method and standard, then it will be defined and tested for. Same with superdrol or any new compound. It must be defined and a method validated to detect it legally.
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Resurecting this thread...Anyone have any info whether the drug labs are screening for superdrol yet?
 
Don Caitlin from the UCLA/Olympic lab knows what SD is.
Not sure on PP though (have to read the Wash. Post article).

But - the best place to check to see if the various organizations are testing for it is to check the banned substances list. I'm fairly sure the Olympics has SD on it - since Caitline (d*ck head) works for them.
But - they have to disclose the banned drugs before they can punish folks (I think - not a lawyer).
 
Doubtfull.

The back pumps for me when doing cardio in the gym were bad. I couldn't imagine running (I get a good back pump from that normally).
 
jmh80 said:
Doubtfull.

The back pumps for me when doing cardio in the gym were bad. I couldn't imagine running (I get a good back pump from that normally).
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Yeah, I'd get bad forearm pumps just taking a shower in the morning when on SD! Ironically, it did seem well suited for endurance. I could work out for a whole extra hour if I wanted too and still not be tired. Of course, I know a guy who can run 6 miles a day on M1T and that's the worst for pumps if you ask me, so everyone is different. Preston may be able to get away with a low dose (10mg/d) of SD with no probs.
 
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