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Test, tren and winny

Lukef2000 said:
Sleeping issues are unfortunately hereditary in my family. I never seem to sleep long enough or deep enough, so I'm not too fussed about the dreaded trensomnia.
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Agreed. Although I do get prescribed ambien, but whenever I take it I end up just building **** and throwing up. So I just have it piled up. Blah it's 450am what to do!
 
thyrod said:
Agreed. Although I do get prescribed ambien, but whenever I take it I end up just building **** and throwing up. So I just have it piled up. Blah it's 450am what to do!
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Lol I get prescribed hypnadorm which is a cousin of the date rape drug. Puts me out for 5 hours stone cold. Only get enough for 30 days every three months tho so I still have to use it sparingly.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Lol I get prescribed hypnadorm which is a cousin of the date rape drug. Puts me out for 5 hours stone cold. Only get enough for 30 days every three months tho so I still have to use it sparingly.
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Gonna try and get me some of this next time I go in. Last time he was telling me of a drug that puts you right in rem sleep.... I want dat ****.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Day 35

Pinned 100mg tren ace
Dosed 25mg aromasin

Got wifey to pin my left glute. Smooth as this time around. I'm thinking the volume increase of my last pin must've been what caused the pain last time. So I foam rolled my left quad, where I had the cork from my last pin. Ouch. Not fun whatsoever!! But it actually feels good now so alls good. I did however have to switch things up so I hit chest today, and will hit back tomorrow. Was strapped for time but still got down there and hit a decent enough workout.

Chest and calves

Flat bb bench
135lb x 15
175lb x 12
220lb x 10
245lb x 10
265lb x 8
245lb x 10
220lb x 10 drop set 135 x 15

Incline DB press
90lb dbs x 7
75lb dbs x 10 x 10

High cable flyes
40lb per arm x 6
30lb per arm x 10 x 10 x 10

Low cable flyes
25lb x 10 x 10 x 10

In and out in 40 minutes. I didn't have a spotter so I couldn't really push myself on bench. Not bad tho 265lb felt quite easy. Ill be up for 24 hours tonight as its my first night shift so I won't be tracking calories, easily 5k.
Libido is good not having any issues in that department, nips depending on the day can be quite sensitive, no dry joints or noticeable bloat. Weight is sitting around the same as it has been for the last two weeks, might look at bumping cals up to 3700 or 4k for the remainder.
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Good looking Chest workout! 265 for 8 is great! We have that chest machine where the weight goes from your mid section to over your head that's a good stretch!
 
thyrod said:
Gonna try and get me some of this next time I go in. Last time he was telling me of a drug that puts you right in rem sleep.... I want dat ****.
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I know why Michael Jackson loved propofol. When I had my vasectomy they gave me that IV. Awake to instant dreaming in seconds. Wow. I still remember the dream and it was 2 years ago. Seriously incredible, I wish I always slept like that
 
larrybailey said:
Good looking Chest workout! 265 for 8 is great! We have that chest machine where the weight goes from your mid section to over your head that's a good stretch!
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Thanks man, will b pushing 315 by the end hopefully. I try not to use machines as I use six different gyms and all the machines are different. Some machines I can max then the same machine at a different gym I'm struggling with little girl weights lol. So frustrating! At least with free weights they are the same no matter what gym I'm in.
 
threeFs said:
I know why Michael Jackson loved propofol. When I had my vasectomy they gave me that IV. Awake to instant dreaming in seconds. Wow. I still remember the dream and it was 2 years ago. Seriously incredible, I wish I always slept like that
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I need some if this!! ASAP! :P
 
Lukef2000 said:
Thanks man, will b pushing 315 by the end hopefully. I try not to use machines as I use six different gyms and all the machines are different. Some machines I can max then the same machine at a different gym I'm struggling with little girl weights lol. So frustrating! At least with free weights they are the same no matter what gym I'm in.
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Dang! I go to 2 different Gyms. I thought that was bad! Lol well here's the thing on machines. I mix it up to attack the muscle from different types of workouts. They say free weights bulk and cables can rip. so I mix it up. I know it depends on weight but I watch some of the personal trainers, they love cables but I need my free weights
 
larrybailey said:
Dang! I go to 2 different Gyms. I thought that was bad! Lol well here's the thing on machines. I mix it up to attack the muscle from different types of workouts. They say free weights bulk and cables can rip. so I mix it up. I know it depends on weight but I watch some of the personal trainers, they love cables but I need my free weights
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Yeah it gets a bit rough sometimes but I do like the variety. I always mix it up too I can't do things like DB flyes due to shoulder issues so I always incorporate cable work. That constant tension cable work does always gives an awesome pump.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Day 35

Pinned 100mg tren ace
Dosed 25mg aromasin

Got wifey to pin my left glute. Smooth as this time around. I'm thinking the volume increase of my last pin must've been what caused the pain last time. So I foam rolled my left quad, where I had the cork from my last pin. Ouch. Not fun whatsoever!! But it actually feels good now so alls good. I did however have to switch things up so I hit chest today, and will hit back tomorrow. Was strapped for time but still got down there and hit a decent enough workout.

Chest and calves

Flat bb bench
135lb x 15
175lb x 12
220lb x 10
245lb x 10
265lb x 8
245lb x 10
220lb x 10 drop set 135 x 15

Incline DB press
90lb dbs x 7
75lb dbs x 10 x 10

High cable flyes
40lb per arm x 6
30lb per arm x 10 x 10 x 10

Low cable flyes
25lb x 10 x 10 x 10

In and out in 40 minutes. I didn't have a spotter so I couldn't really push myself on bench. Not bad tho 265lb felt quite easy. Ill be up for 24 hours tonight as its my first night shift so I won't be tracking calories, easily 5k.
Libido is good not having any issues in that department, nips depending on the day can be quite sensitive, no dry joints or noticeable bloat. Weight is sitting around the same as it has been for the last two weeks, might look at bumping cals up to 3700 or 4k for the remainder.
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Damn brother, nice work. Those numbers seem like they have really improved the last year. The high cables really impress me because I think a comfortable weight I use at that stage of a workout would be 25-35. Way to pump out those reps sir.
 
Day 36

No pin today
12.5mg aromasin

I went down before night shift tonight to hit a bit of back. Things didn't go too well as on my first heavy set of deads my straps broke in half. While grip strength is always a bit of an issue on deads etc I use my straps on most exercises due to my heavy callused hands. Needless to say I went light, with high reps and mixed up a few exercises.

Back day

Deadlifts
135lb x 10
220lb x 10
315lb x 10
415lb x 2 raw
415lb x 2 with straps
Bit annoyed about this was going to bump up to 455 next set.

Wide grip chins
BW x 12 x 12 x 12

Lat pulldowns
Weight per arm
110lb x 8 calluses hurting like a bitch so dropped
90lb x 10 x 10 x 10

Bent over rows
135lb x 20 x 18 x 18 ouch the burn!!!

Seated rows
135lb x 12 x 12 x 12

Single arm standing row
65lb x 12 x 12 x 12

Inverted rows
Bw x 10 x 10 x 10
Superset
Straight arm pulldowns
Can't remember the weight but 3 x 15

Had to hold on to most things with just my fingers no palm. Not used to the high reps, it was actually quite a refreshing change from heavy lifting.
Bumped cals up today to around the 3700 point and will keep them there for now. 3729 calories 337g protein 365g carbs 104g fats.
Sides are all in check. Feeling pretty good about how things are going so far.
Looking forward to putting 2.5ml in my right quad tomorrow. :)
 
Do you know how hard it is to force feed yourself dry chicken breast and sweet potato at 4am when you've been up all night. ****ing hard. Lol
 
Late as hell, but in.
 
Put that dry ass chicken breast in a blender and ass oatmeal and other goodies.... Now you have (wet chicken and crap)
I know that feeling at night-early morning I feel that full and bloated.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Lol yeah ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Does suck tho.

I had my homemade mass gainer at midnight....

Don't know wtf is up with night shift nutrition, I've been looking for some decent info re night time Nutrition as I always feel full, bloated and disgusting, eating the same as I do on day shift.
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It hits me hard at night too!
 
Lukef2000 said:
Don't know wtf is up with night shift nutrition, I've been looking for some decent info re night time Nutrition as I always feel full, bloated and disgusting, eating the same as I do on day shift.
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Alot of it comes down to schedule, my wife is very flexible with my night schedule. Everything flipsflops 24hrs exactly ie: on days i wake up at 3am to workout and in bed by 830 or 9pm, on nights i wake at 3pm and go to bed after gym at 830 or 9am.

With that the eating stays at the same times just switched 24hrs....it takes a bit to get the stomach used to it. It is however that eating is the best thing to promote the circadian rhythm...days or nights.

Also i work nights 8months out of the year.
 
thyrod said:
Put that dry ass chicken breast in a blender and ass oatmeal and other goodies.... Now you have (wet chicken and crap)
I know that feeling at night-early morning I feel that full and bloated.
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Lol chicken shake?? Not too sure how that sounds :D yep trying to get in 3k cals over night shifts suck.

mustang0341 said:
Alot of it comes down to schedule, my wife is very flexible with my night schedule. Everything flipsflops 24hrs exactly ie: on days i wake up at 3am to workout and in bed by 830 or 9pm, on nights i wake at 3pm and go to bed after gym at 830 or 9am.

With that the eating stays at the same times just switched 24hrs....it takes a bit to get the stomach used to it. It is however that eating is the best thing to promote the circadian rhythm...days or nights.

Also i work nights 8months out of the year.
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My schedule never really changes, I think my main issue is I'm always changing from days to nights to days off, my body doesn't really get a chance to adjust.

threeFs said:
It's all about the shtting schedule isn't it! Nothing ruins a man's day like a missed dump.
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You'd actually be surprised its the same time every day whether day shift or night shift. It's good that some things don't change :)
 
Day 37

Pinned 100mg tren ace
Pinned 375mg test e
12.5mg aromasin
2.5mg pramipexole

So I played around with my pramipexole dosing.... Took it on a full stomach before work. Bad idea. About four hours after dosing, just like last time, felt sick in the stomach, tried eating to settle the stomach not long after I was spewing my ring out for around an hour and got sent home from work. Going to try splitting the dose and lowering it in general. Ill be back in town today so ill go and grab some of those thing threefs mentioned. Hit some arms before work.

Arm day
Can't remember what I did but I did a ****load. Supersetted everything. Had an awesome pump it was actually painful, and I was having issues moving my arms lol. Finished off with 10 sets of calves

Sides are all in check for now. Except the prami sides mentioned above. Diet was clean but I did spew most of it up so I'm not sure what I actually kept down lol.
 
Man everyone is having nasty sides from prami. Any chance you could get and run caber instead? I've hear of people having a lot less trouble with it.

There's also this stuff called prolactrone that I've read nothing but good reviews about. It's an OTC thing that they actually sell at np but everything I've read says dosed right you get all the benefits and none of the prami/caber sides. Just a thought
 
thyrod said:
Damn bro that sounds ****ty, hope you figure it out
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Yeah ill get there, just hope it's sooner rather than later!!

booneman77 said:
Man everyone is having nasty sides from prami. Any chance you could get and run caber instead? I've hear of people having a lot less trouble with it.

There's also this stuff called prolactrone that I've read nothing but good reviews about. It's an OTC thing that they actually sell at np but everything I've read says dosed right you get all the benefits and none of the prami/caber sides. Just a thought
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I can get caber but it takes 3 weeks to get here in oz. Ive heard good things about prolactrone but again I'm in the same boat as it takes weeks to get here. Unless I can find some locally I'm up **** creek stuck with prami.
 
LiveToLift said:
Damn brother, nice work. Those numbers seem like they have really improved the last year. The high cables really impress me because I think a comfortable weight I use at that stage of a workout would be 25-35. Way to pump out those reps sir.
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Don't know how I missed this post. Thanks for that LTL. I've made some decent progress over the last year. I did hit 285 when I was on Epi so I'm hoping I should be able to smash that by the end if this run! Love cables for chest, that constant tension is killer!
 
Lukef2000 said:
Don't know how I missed this post. Thanks for that LTL. I've made some decent progress over the last year. I did hit 285 when I was on Epi so I'm hoping I should be able to smash that by the end if this run! Love cables for chest, that constant tension is killer!
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No worries man! You are killing it. Let's see you crush that old pr!
 
Been doing some more indepth research on prami, looks like it actually has a nickname "puking prami" lol. From what I've read I've been taking too much. I have been dosing 2.5mg e4d. I'm going to start dosing .5mg eod starting tomorrow. Apparently starting at low doses then adjusting up as needed is a way to avert this spewing side effect!
 
Lukef2000 said:
Been doing some more indepth research on prami, looks like it actually has a nickname "puking prami" lol. From what I've read I've been taking too much. I have been dosing 2.5mg e4d. I'm going to start dosing .5mg eod starting tomorrow. Apparently starting at low doses then adjusting up as needed is a way to avert this spewing side effect!
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yes this.
But too high and you freakin hallucinate! It happened to me @ 4 mg. I woke up last night soaked in sweat, crippled low back from dead lifts, and took everything I had no not vomit from the prami!

Can't wait to do it all again tonight
Edit...but it does make you horny fwiw
 
threeFs said:
yes this.
But too high and you freakin hallucinate! It happened to me @ 4 mg. I woke up last night soaked in sweat, crippled low back from dead lifts, and took everything I had no not vomit from the prami!

Can't wait to do it all again tonight
Edit...but it does make you horny fwiw
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I don't think ill be going that high lol if 2.5mg makes me spew my ring out no way will I go near 4mg lol. Haha yeah well it's got to have something going for it lol.
 
Day 38

No pins today
12.5mg exemstane

Was supposed to be an off day today but wifey and I had a bit of a tiff and I decided to go hit some shoulders.

Shoulder day
Hammer strength
45lb per side x 15
110lb per side x 9 x 7
100lb per side x 9 x 6

Side lateral raises
Had to go a bit lighter as the gym was stoopidly busy and most of the man weights were taken
25lb x 18 x 15 x 15

Front raises
30lb x 12 x 10 x 8 the pump here was painful so I had to stop. Couldn't even get out the last few reps.

Hammer strength side lateral machine
22.5lb x 10 x 10 x 10
Superset
Plate front raise
45lb x 10 x 10 x 10

Bent over single arm rear delts
15lb x 8
10lb x 10 x 10

DB shrugs
90lb x 20 x 15 x 15 had no straps so I couldn't push these.

Wide grip chins
BW x 15 x 12 x 12 x 6 totally run out of gas here.

Felt really good today. I could have honestly spent all day in the gym. The shoulder pump was really painful. Felt good in a weird sort of way.
Nips were a bit sensitive today but since taking exemstane it seems to have subsided. Been having some strange muscle cramps today, mainly in my biceps and forearms. Took some magnesium and they also seem to have subsided.
Calories bit low as today was supposed to be an off day, been shoveling down as much as I can after the gym tho. Sitting at 3143 266g protein 277g carbs 119g fats. Will probably have a shake and some natty pb before bed just to get up to 3500kcals.
 
So it's 520am, been awake for an hour. Think I can officially count trensomnia onto my side effects list. If I'm up I might as well go hit the gym early right? I can see two a day training if I'm going to be up at this hour.
 
Benadryl. I'm hitting that hard, 2 caps usually keeps me out for a few hours. It's funny because my body would be tired but my mind would be awake.
 
threeFs said:
Benadryl. I'm hitting that hard, 2 caps usually keeps me out for a few hours. It's funny because my body would be tired but my mind would be awake.
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Ill look into that cheers man. I get back to civilization today so I should beable to pick some up. Thought about taking hypnadorm but didn't want to be out half the day lol.
 
Day 39

Pinned 100mg tren ace
12.5mg aromasin
.5mg prami

Sooo was up at 445 this morning :| was actually feeling quite rested tho considering only getting 5 hours. Went in and smashed legs at 0630

Leg day
Squats
135lb x15 x 15
360lb x 7 PR reps
350lb x 8
340lb x 6
315lb x 8

Reverse hammer Hack squat machine
265lb x 12 x 12 x 12

Smith lunges
90lb x 12 x 12 x 12

Leg extensions
150lb x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
Strict 30secs rest on these

Laying leg curls
110lb x 10 x 10 x 10 x 8 x 8

Standing calve raise
200lb x 12 x 12 x 12 x 10

Leg press calve raise
265lb x 12 x 12 x 12
Superset
Shít squats
BW x 20 x 20 x 20

Damn my back was smoked during squats. Once I get 8 reps on 360 ill be bumping that weight up. Need to get to 405... For my egos sake :P I did get a compliment from one if the big PT guys, miring on my squat form and weight. Always good to hear.
So trensomnia reared its ugly head. Will just have to wait it out and see how bad it gets before I take steps to alleviate it. Nips bit sensitive but not worse than they have been. Appetite is through the roof! Pin went smooth in my left quad. Slight cork but nothing like last time.
Diet was awesome today. Really enjoyed eating a ton today for some reason. Diets sitting at 3500 but I still have a massive serving of pad Thai to go 4kcals easy by bedtime.
 
threeFs said:
Get you some pr's! Atta boy!! And work that oil in after you inject
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Yeah buddy! Been steadily increasing my squat week to week, just waiting on this tren strength I've heard so much about. I always massage the site for a good couple minutes, this time was far better than last one at this site. That shít was painful lol.
 
Day 40

No pins today
12.5mg aromasin

Up at 445 this morning again. Almost like clockwork these past two days. Was up 5 or so times during the night too which never helps. Had the gayest experience in the gym today. They had the heaters on. Really fûcking hot. Needless to say once I started getting into it it was hard to choke down the thick air. Ruined my day. End rant/

Chest and back

Weighted chins
BW + 45 x 8 x 7 x 6 have to do these slow and controlled as I did these ages ago too quickly and the plate hit my nuts.
BW x 12

Bb bench no spotter :(
245lb x 10 x 10 x 6 hit the rack an it threw my groove right off.
220lb x 12

Bent over rows
220lb x 10 x 7 PR reps

Incline hammer press
110lb per side x 6
90lb per side x 10 x 10

Hammer high row
120lb per side x 10 x 8 x 8

Inverted rows
BW 3 x till failure
Superset
Wide grip push-ups
BW 3 x till failure

Straight arm pressdowns
100lb x 12 x 12 x 12
Superset
High cable flyes
50lb x 6
45lb x 8
35lb x 10

Could have done a bit more but it was so fùcking hot in there! The weight felt light on that first set of bent over rows Happy with the progress there.
Cals 3985 360protein 372 carbs 127 fats.
Sides seem to be in check today which is nice. Going to take a sleeping tablet tonight so hopefully ill get a good nights sleep.
 
Protect the noootz! Good job on the weighted pull ups. Don't see that too often unless it's me. Super job man.

Make sure you take your sleeping pill early enough. Don't want that hangover
 
threeFs said:
Protect the noootz! Good job on the weighted pull ups. Don't see that too often unless it's me. Super job man.

Make sure you take your sleeping pill early enough. Don't want that hangover
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Lol yeah I've always had enough strength to do them but after my accident I've steered well clear lol. Not something i want to relive. Ever. :)
 
Lukef2000 said:
Day 40

No pins today
12.5mg aromasin

Up at 445 this morning again. Almost like clockwork these past two days. Was up 5 or so times during the night too which never helps. Had the gayest experience in the gym today. They had the heaters on. Really fûcking hot. Needless to say once I started getting into it it was hard to choke down the thick air. Ruined my day. End rant/

Chest and back

Weighted chins
BW + 45 x 8 x 7 x 6 have to do these slow and controlled as I did these ages ago too quickly and the plate hit my nuts.
BW x 12

Bb bench no spotter :(
245lb x 10 x 10 x 6 hit the rack an it threw my groove right off.
220lb x 12

Bent over rows
220lb x 10 x 7 PR reps

Incline hammer press
110lb per side x 6
90lb per side x 10 x 10

Hammer high row
120lb per side x 10 x 8 x 8

Inverted rows
BW 3 x till failure
Superset
Wide grip push-ups
BW 3 x till failure

Straight arm pressdowns
100lb x 12 x 12 x 12
Superset
High cable flyes
50lb x 6
45lb x 8
35lb x 10

Could have done a bit more but it was so fùcking hot in there! The weight felt light on that first set of bent over rows Happy with the progress there.
Cals 3985 360protein 372 carbs 127 fats.
Sides seem to be in check today which is nice. Going to take a sleeping tablet tonight so hopefully ill get a good nights sleep.
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Heck yeah! Get it! Good set. 245 for 10 reps is great!
 
Solid #'s Bro! From your pic your quads are getting Hyyyoooogeee. Keep slaying those weights brother. PR City!
 
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