Test E or SD Cycle ?

thelix

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Which one should yield better gains with less sides on a short 4 week cycle ?

SD: 10/20/20/20

or

Test-E: 500/500/500/500


This would be my first cycle for either of them.
 
SD obviously. Test E needs to be ran for 10-16 weeks, no shorter.
Maybe four weeks of Prop with the SD added into it..

Why do you want to do a FOUR week cycle?
 
Running Test-E for 4 weeks would be an absolute waste of money, gear, pins and time. It takes 4-6 weeks to fully kick in and should be run no less than 10 IMO. If those are the 2 compounds you are debating I would run sdrol for 3 weeks 10/20/20. Many report that sdrol's gains taper after the 3rd week. I'm currently on my second week of sdrol at 20mg per day. Second sdrol cycle, 5th overall cycle.
 
Run the SD. No offense, but if you are proposing a 4 week test-e cycle, you need to do some more research.

Do you have a PCT in mind? If so, what?

C_
 
callaway said:
Run the SD. No offense, but if you are proposing a 4 week test-e cycle, you need to do some more research.

Do you have a PCT in mind? If so, what?

C_
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Yeah. If I may say my own thoughts, OFFENSE INTENDED, if you are thinking about cycling test E for 4 weeks then you are telling me that you are ready to stab yourself with a needle and inject yourself with a substance that you have NO ****ING CLUE how it works. Why don't you figure out what it is you're injecting before you do it and figure out the esters, it takes a couple minutes.
 
Hey guys....I appreciate the feedback and yes, I am a newbie in BB but hey, that's what forums are for right ? I did not say I was GOING to run this cycle, I simply asked which one would show better gains in a 4-week timeframe.

Now I know that Test-E does not show results within 4 weeks. My thinking was that if SD stimulates Test production, a pure Test-E alone would yield better results, but I guess that is not the case then. This implies to me that the gains from SD are not from the increase in Test alone, it most come from other anabolic substances as well, correct ?
 
superdrol does not stimulate test production. it kills it...pretty quick (hence 3 week cycles) it replaces your test with a designer compound which is quite a bit more anabolic than test, yet acts on the same receptors. if your gonna run it, be prepared to give up sex for the duration of the cycle and PCT. That's the effect it had on me anyway. Either way, keep doing research and don't listen to the people who are putting you down, though I believe this question could, indeed, have been answered by using the search tab
 
tks Ind...I got it now. I searched tho I could not find a clear cut answer to my initial question.

As for PCT, I still need some help. I have, Nolva for AI, Clomid for test boost, Formadrol Extreme for test boost, Lean-FX for cortisol regulator and Inhibit-E for AI.

Using all of this is probably an overkill for a 3-week 10/20/20 M-drol cycle, so please let me know which ones I should apply.

Tks a bunch
 
thelix said:
tks Ind...I got it now. I searched tho I could not find a clear cut answer to my initial question.

As for PCT, I still need some help. I have, Nolva for AI, Clomid for test boost, Formadrol Extreme for test boost, Lean-FX for cortisol regulator and Inhibit-E for AI.

Using all of this is probably an overkill for a 3-week 10/20/20 M-drol cycle, so please let me know which ones I should apply.

Tks a bunch
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All that is overkill IMO. Honestly, you should be fine with Nolva at 40/40/20/20. I've used that on 1 sdrol cycle and 2 m1t cycles and kept everything. Run 150mg of DHEA daily to combat lethargy.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Yeah. If I may say my own thoughts, OFFENSE INTENDED, if you are thinking about cycling test E for 4 weeks then you are telling me that you are ready to stab yourself with a needle and inject yourself with a substance that you have NO ****ING CLUE how it works. Why don't you figure out what it is you're injecting before you do it and figure out the esters, it takes a couple minutes.
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HAHAHAHA:lmao:
 
...you may say you own thoughts...as I may ask whatever I feel like.

Honestly, I guess you don't understand the purpose of a forum. If everyone here was an expert on everything this would not exist
 
thelix said:
...you may say you own thoughts...as I may ask whatever I feel like.

Honestly, I guess you don't understand the purpose of a forum. If everyone here was an expert on everything this would not exist
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Dude don't get your panties in a bunch, I was laughing not at you but at what unreal said, the sh!t that comes out of his mouth at times kills me. But to answer your original question, SD without a doubt, if you want to run a test for only 4 weeks then run test prop and even then it is pretty short.
And for pct, as Freq said, just nolva should be fine.
 
Yeah dude, you thought that Superdrol stimulates test production and so taking 4 weeks of Test, which you know won't kick in, will somehow stimulate it more... and the test production it somehow activates serves as some kind of cycle.

See, i think you will be better off just reading literature and doing internet searches because you need to have a more basic grasp of WTF is going on here. The forum is a place for discussion and I won't stop your discussion, but it's hard for me to give you cycle advise when you just realized how suppression actually works. It sounds like a pompous thing, but it's more of a moral thing...

My only advice is this: know what you are putting into your body and what it does!
 
tks bro....I am definitely learning more each day.

will start on Mdrol in 3 weeks, and will be as cautious as possible for sure

Test-E will be way out in the future now...
 
I got Cycle Assist, Fish Oil, , Glucosamine, Finasterid and Taurine (if I get back pumps) to use on and off-cycle.

also...I may pick up some DHEA for lethargy. I had some with Methyl 1-D so I figure with SD will be somewhat worse. Am I missing anything else

I am on my 6th day of PPlex 30 ED and will bridge to SD in 3 weeks. So far I've had some wet gains (3lbs) but no sides or lethargy at all. Should I expect sides from PPlex in a few days or is PPlex pretty mild on sides ?
 
i have been on test e for about 2 years straight @ 200ml a week, i was looking into doing a 4 week cycle at 500ml a week and a50 for the first 20 days as well. Since i have been on it this long would it not benefit me more so then someone that is trying to load test e for the first time?
 
KBW said:
i have been on test e for about 2 years straight @ 200ml a week, i was looking into doing a 4 week cycle at 500ml a week and a50 for the first 20 days as well. Since i have been on it this long would it not benefit me more so then someone that is trying to load test e for the first time?
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wait...what? o.0
 
to answer the question bluntly u will gain more muscle mass on a four week SD cycle . but with the test u will have less side effects and its not nearly as bad on your body .
 
thats correct, not a typo...i am 27...5'10, 220# amd workout regularly. Its a prescription from my doctor, they found i had low T. They checked for tumors, cancer, and assume something was damaged in 2006 when i had a bad motorcycle wreck. My levels were around 150, the doctor said for my age should be around 600, but with all the injections my level stays around 1200-1500. They expect it will level off, but are now looking at dropping it to 1/2cc every other week. With all that being said, i was looking at doing the 500/500/500/500 to add some bulk. I do not have an issue as some others that are naturally small. As i said i weigh 220#, leg press 24 plates, do sets of 4 with 375 on the smith machine, and do sets of 4 with 245 on bench. But before my bike wreck and the injections i was up to 3 sets of 10 reps with 265# on flat bench.
 
I truly wouldn't expect any "leveling off" of Test when you've been taking an exogenous form of Test for 2 years. I suppose as soon as they take you off it the levels will crash again. You gotta have something like Clomid or hcG or BOTH to stimulate test production naturally. But, this would take a long, long time since you've been "shutdown" for 2+ years...
 
i have the test e, clomid, nolvadex, aramosin, hcg, femara for my pct after the 4 weeks, if it doesnt stay elevated then i have a 10ml bottle of test e for back up to continue my regular injections...but teh dumb-ass dr. put me on this **** with nothing for estrogen sides...but even with my levels staying so high for over a year i havent had anything mroe then a little oily skin.
 
thelix said:
tks Ind...I got it now. I searched tho I could not find a clear cut answer to my initial question.

As for PCT, I still need some help. I have, Nolva for AI, Clomid for test boost, Formadrol Extreme for test boost, Lean-FX for cortisol regulator and Inhibit-E for AI.

Using all of this is probably an overkill for a 3-week 10/20/20 M-drol cycle, so please let me know which ones I should apply.

Tks a bunch
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Every time you post, it shows that you havent done anywhere near the amount of research that you need to do. Use the search bar. Anything you cant find google, ask here. The homies get sore when folks want to be spoon fed.
 
If this guy is sayibg 4 weeks on test e this means what???? More reading yes sire!



Test e props: better gains , feel better, better strenge , more mass ,
Downs : shuts you down harder then sd ... Holds more sides to hair loss acne and risk of pinig .


Sd ... Props : nice strenge gaibs ... Good sold 15bks nice! ( diet has to be in check ) people say its wet but it looks dry to me .

Downs : hard on the liver and bodyparts shuts you down pretty hard can only run 3 to 4 week cycle sides are commen.




Do more reading and dieting bro if you didnt know the basics.
 
im guessing he might have learned a bit since this is a revived post from 2009. i wonder how that phera-sd bridge went. that seems like a really harsh / intense cycle. 6 weeks on those 2 seems like hell.
 
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