Lifeguard said:hmmm...too bad Indochina, Southeast Aisa, and Vietnam are all the same place
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Originally posted by YellowJacket
Too bad thats why they all say 2 million. People recognize each by a different name thats why it's listed 3 times.
Then maybe you should try reading comprehension and keeping things in context huh?Lifeguard said:
But the way they word it makes it sound like 6 million not 2 million.
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Originally posted by YellowJacket
Then maybe you should try reading comprehension and keeping things in context huh?![]()
pjorstad said:IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN THAT PIC NO ONE SAYS YOU HAVE TO STAY
GET THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTRY NOW NO ONES KEEPING YOU!
pjorstad said:If its so much your country then why are you talking like a anti-US terrorist???
So if your mother was killed in the airplanes you wouldn't care????
So your saying all those innocent people who got killed and women who were RAPED in kuwait is ok?
Originally posted by pjorstad
So if your mother was killed in the airplanes you wouldn't care????
Bean said:
I find most of the anarchists aren't real anarchists at all; they are just anti-us government and pro-everyoneelse
YellowJacket said:So wait wait, Iraq gets what they deserve? So you're saying 2 wrongs make a right?
And Bin Laden kills thousands of people and he's a piece of **** and should be killed, blah blah blah and Bush has had millions killed and he is praised? Wow, nice double standard there![]()
Originally posted by SirSavageX
BTW, even if those death numbers are true (from Vietnam, etc.), Bush had nothing to do with them.
SirSavageX said:
Ah, allow me to retort.
Iraq has killed thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of its own people, namely, the Curds. Take a look at the videotape of all the women who died in the streets, with their children in their arms, all killed by nerve toxins made and launched by, you guessed it, Saddam.
Sure, let's sit back, ignore it, and let the rest of the world handle it. None of our business, right?? I believe that's what we did during the majority of WWII, is it not, when Jews were being exterminated by the millions?
And weapons of mass destruction or not, Saddam has repeatedly breached every resolution passed by the UN, and repeatedly provoked war. That, coupled with the oppression and killing of his own people, is more than enough reason to take him out.
He hasnt? He didnt drop those mysterious bombs a few months ago that landed in a civilian camp and I think I remember killing members of a wedding in a foreign country? Planned or not, attacks against a country in YOUR BEST INTEREST is terrorism. We all know why he wants a war with Iraq, not because they have weapons of mass destructions (because they dont, or so our OWN inspectors say) its because Saddam threatened the life of his father....As for Bush being a terrorist, absurd. How many of our people has he had gassed or exterminated?? None. Has he planned unprovoked attacks on civilians in other countries?? Nope.
[/b]BTW, even if those death numbers are true (from Vietnam, etc.), Bush had nothing to do with them. [/B]
Typical American attitude.....DarCSA said:Kill em all and let god sort em out!!!!
Hes the leader of this country. Hes like every other leader in this country. He provokes worthless "attacks" on other countrys for what, Im not sure he even knows.Lifeguard said:
Exactly
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Originally posted by YellowJacket
Typical American attitude.....
DarCSA said:
You don't think so. Why not do it? It solves the problem fast and has little repercussions. Take it to them and whip their ass.
Originally posted by YellowJacket
Or going to solve the problem by the means your trying to prevent? Maybe you should run for president....
YellowJacket said:
How many people die in this country everyday from gun shots? How many die of starvation? How many woman are raped in THIS country? Until this country is set and ran properly, how can you stick your nose where it doesnt belong? Exactly, you cant. He cant even deal with thats going on here, so he's going to solve the world's problems? Ha.
Maybe if we would have ignored it, we would still have 2 large buildings in New York and 1,000s of more lives in this country huh? Now everyone here livesi n fear of another attack, and they blame the Al Queda. If it were not for the precious, clueless president of this country, you wouldnt have to live in fear.
So I ask you this.... who are we to interject? Oh thats right, the ruler of the free world![]()
He hasnt? He didnt drop those mysterious bombs a few months ago that landed in a civilian camp and I think I remember killing members of a wedding in a foreign country? Planned or not, attacks against a country in YOUR BEST INTEREST is terrorism. We all know why he wants a war with Iraq, not because they have weapons of mass destructions (because they dont, or so our OWN inspectors say) its because Saddam threatened the life of his father....
No he didnt then, but he's doing the same thing as they formers were. Hes sticking his nose where it does not belong, sending US troops over there to be killed. What a stand up guy.
YellowJacket said:
Im anti-formal government, no matter who's it is.
SirSavageX said:
What do you expect? No problems at all? Perfection? Not going to happen. There are always going to be those unfortunate people who are killed, raped, etc., and there's nothing you can do to completely prevent or stop that. These are the problems we face in a society where freedom is placed very highly, because freedom and order are inherently opposed to one another. There are always going to be the idiots out there. Some sort of balance has to be aimed for. Again, no way to be perfect.
As for sticking our nose where it doesn't belong, our nose belongs anywhere where our national interests are threatened, whether it be a safety issue of our citizens, economical, or what have you.
Ignore a problem? What good does that do? Eventually, it will spread to you, and oftentimes, it is too late, by that point, to do anything about it.
I'm paraphrasing, but all that is necessary for the forces of evil to win, is for enough good men to do nothing. Remember that.
First, if they were civilians, it was not intentional. Come on, man, if he was really a terrorist and wanted to harm others he'd break out the nukes, or other serious weapons.
Terrorism is a violent means to intimidate a country into doing something that you want. That is different than war. Certainly, civilians die in war, and there's nothing you can do to completely prevent that. It is very unfortunate. However, some things must be done.
Assuming there is a war, it is HIGHLY unlikely that many of our troops will be killed. Our soldiers are just too highly trained, and our technology is just too advanced.
On the other side, it is also highly unlikely that many of the Iraqis will be killed. The majority of his armed forces are likely to surrender in the face of a superior enemy, and due to careful planning, civilian casualties will also be cut down a great deal.
SirSavageX said:
With no government, and no laws, someone will eventually come along, kill you, take your possessions, and take the women of your family as their own.
Government and order would be looking pretty good right about then. You sure anarchy is what you really want?
If you're going to judge someone based on MY opinions, then get the **** out of this thread son. You have NO credibility and you speak without merit, you're an 18 year old punk, you know **** about how the world works, so before you call people "foolish" for not believing what you do, you'd better do some reading and learining. You say Im foolish and thats the end of your statement, thus your lack of merit. You better be ready to back **** up if you make statements like that, dont let your alligator mouth get your humming bird ass in trouble. That was weak.Big H said:Anyone who wants anarchy is foolish IMO. Less strict government fine; but anarchy- yea right.
windwords7 said:Saddam is a threat to the US and other peoples of the world, including his own, and that ONLY is the point of the US intervention that appears to be soon upon the horizon. The US/Worlds woes and crime and preventing another attack are not even remotley related to each other.
YellowJacket said:
I just feel that you should take care of your own before you attempt to straigthen out the world. And you might say he is taking care of his own by doing whatever he's *talking* about doing. No. Its in his best interest. He's pissed off at the world because they got us. Yep, for once we DIDNT win. We were assaulted on our playing field. Another country came in, killed thousands of people and he cant handle it. Why not? Got me, hell this country seems to go in to some other country and invade it every year. So he's looking for a stress reliever because this all happened ON HIS watch and that makes him weak. When your own are thriving and successful, then worry about the rest of the country and aiding them and feeding them and keeping their country safe, until them mind your own business and concentrate on what you have to do to keep your job. [/b]
Face it, our interests arent being threatened, this isnt about our interests, this is aobut Bush's self-gratification. Bin Laden killed Americans, fine go kill him. Dont take it out on every country that opposes. We're shutting down North Korea's nuke plants.....might threaten the world, yet we are allowed to brew and create them? Ha, what kind of fucking country is this? Who are we? Why can be do things and other country's can? We like being the big dog huh? Letting everyother country know we're the **** and they're petty no ones. Bush's time as well as this country's is coming very soon....
Ignoring problems you have nothing to do with keeps your focus where it belongs. Doing a job the American people elected you to do (although he wasnt elected, he was given the job).
Good men do nothing.
Ignorant men participate.
Oh innocent people were killed... oh well **** it, we'll call in an accident. Maybe North Korea feels threatened so they're pulling out their nukes? Oh wait, they cant, we're shutting them down.
Then we're terroists because we threatened force against N. Korea if they didnt shut down there potential products of weapons of mass destructions. And if they didnt, you better believe we'd bomb them, so thats terrorism my friend. Restricting another country's ability to defend themselves, thats also very cowardly.
If Anyone [b/] dies, thats 1 too many for a cause we have nothing to do with. I hear everyday about our highly trained military crashing a helicopter and killing 4 or 5 people.
Bush doesnt give a **** about the commoner's best interest, only his. Everyone knew that before he was GIVEN the job. He tried to play hardass as Texas' governor thats why Gore won this election, but because of the communist electoral college, Bush is our new "leader". If Bush keeps on at this rate, this "superior" country will be very weak, look what a couple of planes did, crushed this nation. Imagine what a couple hundred would do. If he continues to look into only his best interests, lives and our "Superiority" WILL be compromised.
YellowJacket said:
Then I say get in your car, pack your lunch and bring it. Thats the way this country was intended from the start.
Land of the free? Bullshit. I got a fucking ticket for not wearing my seatbelt. WTF? Who are some petty, $20k a year, nobody cops to tell me I have to wear my sealtbelt? Its my life, I choose to live it the way I want. Sounds childish but its the truth. There's so many ignorant laws out there that oppress everyone. That wasnt the intention of our founders.
Its every man for themselves. You have all these politicians coming in, laying down laws, ruining MY life, so it should be my right to take theirs. Sounds ignorant and its pretty far fetched, but this world could exist without government, its more of a powertrip and an ego boost more than anything to be a part of it anyway.
SirSavageX said:
He is taking care of his own, to the best of his ability and the powers delegated to the president. BTW, criminal matters such as murder, rape, etc. are largely the job of state and local governments, not the federal government, and not the president.
You're absolutely right he's pissed. Fuckin' idiot terrorists killed thousands of our people. I'd say he has a right to be mad, because some 3000 of his fellow citizens were murdered in such a horrid way. I tell ya', I'm pretty pissed, too!
We don't go and invade another country unless we feel there is a damn good reason. Have we made mistakes before? Sure. We recognize those mistakes, learn from them, and try not to repeat them.
Our country IS thriving and successful. Don't think so? Try living in Afghanistan. You'll quickly learn what success is. In order to keep this success, he must do his best to prevent those that are jealous of our wealth from harming us.
Our interests aren't being threatened? I'd say when 19 idiots take out two buildings, along with some 3000 people, our interests are threatened.
We are allowed to keep nukes because we won't misuse them, unlike other radical governments.
That's where you're wrong. It does have to do with us. Anything anti-Western has to do with us, because we are basically the Mecca of Western Civilization. Saddam is anti-U.S., and there are many other radical governments and organizations that are just as bad, if not worse.
He was elected to do this job. Foreign affairs is part of the president's job.
A country can defend itself properly without developing nukes.
This nation was weak, in that we were naive. Now we know better, and we are only getting stronger. This nation is far from crushed.
CROWLER said:HA HA HA this thread is FUNNY ****.
I seem to agree with about every OTHER post I WONDER why that is.
YellowJacket said:
If you're going to judge someone based on MY opinions, then get the **** out of this thread son. You have NO credibility and you speak without merit, you're an 18 year old punk, you know **** about how the world works, so before you call people "foolish" for not believing what you do, you'd better do some reading and learining. You say Im foolish and thats the end of your statement, thus your lack of merit. You better be ready to back **** up if you make statements like that, dont let your alligator mouth get your humming bird mouth in trouble. That was weak.
YellowJacket said:
If you have something intelligent to add then add it, otherwise shut the **** up. You've got a problem with me, its obvious by your smartass posts, this isnt the thread to act like a school girl in. Maybe you should go back to bb.com.
pjorstad said:That picture is a piece of crap and i would use it to wipe my fucking ass and the people that believe what it says can kiss it!
That picture is bullshit propoganda for one reason as lifeguard pointed out. Secondly iraq deserves what they get because they did some horrible things in kuwait and have a madmen as a leader. Also as far as vietnam, while i felt we were stupid for going in the war to get ourselves killed and am against us ever having gone there for SELFISH reasons but our GOAL was with good intentions at least.
FUNNY HOW I DON"T SEE A FUCKING PICK OF BIN LADEN ON THERE OR THE WORLD TRADE CENTER OR PENTAGON BEING BLOWN UP!
CROWLER said:Who deleted my 2 posts?
You can see on of them 3 posts up what I posted. Infact it was quoted by Y/J so obviously it was deleted.
What was wrong with what I posted?
Y/J why you taking this personal?
I expressed an opinon that is all.
Obviously in threads that go back and forth usually you many times agree with every other post.
I think this can be said for a number of other posters on this thread.
CROWLER said:
EXACTLY bro Karma for you and all who agree.