Tell Us What You Would Like to see From SNS, CEL, Muscle Addiction, & XPG (2025 Edition)

1HP said:
Apologies for quoting an older post, but I do like this combination as well.

4 caps of Growth Factor XT at night has been absolutely great, even miraculous, for me. I’m experimenting with (adding) Sleep Support XT currently and it takes things slightly, but noticeably, further.

I recently started taking Mood Support XT, I like it best at 2 caps at around 2PM (workout from 11-12AM), it facilitates a smoother transition from a hectic work day into a relaxed evening.

I’m now considering to try adding more doses of Growth Factor XT, for example 2 at waking and/or 2 pre WO, but I absolutely want to stick to the 4 at night. I guess I can just try this myself but am wondering if others have been experimenting with this and/or have other recommendations.
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Nothing to apologize for. I'm thankful for feedback and if my posts can help people.

I'm really glad that you're liking Growth Factor XT - I think that it is a great and very overlooked product.

I agree that adding Sleep Support XT to it does increase sleep quality too.

Great point about Mood Support XT - I like the way you worded that about the transition. I couldn't think of how to phrase, but I take it a lot of days when the staff here leaves and my day transitions to more research and writing and it does help me relax into changing gears and speeds to focus on my work and decompress.

There would be nothing wrong dosage wise with increasing your Growth Factor XT dosage like you're suggesting. I know several people that have done that and liked it, especially people that were/are naturally anxious. If you try it, I look forward to hearing how you like it.
 
baldwanus said:
@sns8778 any thoughts on ImmunoLin?
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I've thought about it but we haven't had much demand for it.

We should have out a biotic and an overall gut/digestive health formula by the end of the year if all goes well. Once we get those out and see how they sell, we may do it if enough people are interested.

I've learned so much about the gut health and biotics side of things working on these formulas that its been very eye opening - I was already skeptical and pessimistic towards a lot of things in this industry and its made it even worse lol.
 
sns8778 said:
We should have out a biotic and an overall gut/digestive health formula by the end of the year if all goes well.
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I'm not saying my question was partially designed to elicit some hints on said product... but it kinda was :LOL:

But I also ask because I remember seeing something about it on PricePlow recently... so maybe a demand might start popping up. Is it something that actually seems like it could be beneficial, or in the making your pessimism worse category haha?

My curiosity probably comes from a much different angle than most people... when I was a kid, I actually had blood tests showing consistent low IgG levels. Between local docs and Yale, there was never any actual diagnosis as to why, just that they were low, right under the borderline. Most of the theories revolved around more environmental related, because both my middle school and HS were mold infested shitholes haha, and I more or less got better once I graduated. But in my minimal searching, it seems like there could be a minimal connection between the fact that I had low IgG levels as a kid and now have psoriatic arthritis as an adult.

I'm wondering if it's one of those supps thats potentially only beneficial for a select group of people, and I might be one of them lol
 
sns8778 said:
I've thought about it but we haven't had much demand for it.

We should have out a biotic and an overall gut/digestive health formula by the end of the year if all goes well. Once we get those out and see how they sell, we may do it if enough people are interested.

I've learned so much about the gut health and biotics side of things working on these formulas that its been very eye opening - I was already skeptical and pessimistic towards a lot of things in this industry and its made it even worse lol.
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Was going to ask about updates to those!
 
Segansational said:
Was going to ask about updates to those!
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The gut health project became multiple projects - not that all of them will happen at once, but it went down several different avenues. The first ones will be the biotic and an overall gut health formula.

I knew that doing one right would be complicated, but it turned out to be even more complicated than I thought - things like companies not allowing their strains to be used with competitors ingredients, surprisingly high die off rates of strains, some negative things about some strains a lot of people don't know.

I always said if I was going to do it, I was going to do it right or not do it at all, so its just taken awhile.
 
baldwanus said:
I'm not saying my question was partially designed to elicit some hints on said product... but it kinda was :LOL:

But I also ask because I remember seeing something about it on PricePlow recently... so maybe a demand might start popping up. Is it something that actually seems like it could be beneficial, or in the making your pessimism worse category haha?

My curiosity probably comes from a much different angle than most people... when I was a kid, I actually had blood tests showing consistent low IgG levels. Between local docs and Yale, there was never any actual diagnosis as to why, just that they were low, right under the borderline. Most of the theories revolved around more environmental related, because both my middle school and HS were mold infested shitholes haha, and I more or less got better once I graduated. But in my minimal searching, it seems like there could be a minimal connection between the fact that I had low IgG levels as a kid and now have psoriatic arthritis as an adult.

I'm wondering if it's one of those supps thats potentially only beneficial for a select group of people, and I might be one of them lol
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I think that it could be beneficial for some people for some things, but also that it may not be for some things and some may need to avoid it. I also think its super expensive for what it is.

It's something I would think of as adding on top of other stuff, but is very expensive as an add on.

I do have it on my list to look more into. I'll make a note to let you know or feel free to follow up with me in about a week. Because I'm trying to figure out if it may be beneficial for someone I work with and a condition they have, so I need to deep dive the science for that.

I was replying sentence by sentence when reading - I'm going to send you a pm about it related to autoimmune conditions including psoriatic arthritis. I don't want to say anything publicly that may come off as negative towards the ingredient.
 
TommyTuffGuy said:
@sns8778 Any updates on when Epi-Plex will be back in stock?
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It will be shipping to us Monday. I just turned the links back live for people to be able to order during the sale. It would ship towards the end of next week.
 
We have several items that are out of stock that people are interested in and wanted to be able to buy as part of the sale that will be shipping to us next week. They should arrive middle/late next week.

I am going to list them back in stock for the people that would like to buy the - but please understand that they will not ship out until the end of next week.

They are:
  • Anabolic XT
  • Epi-Plex
  • Recomp20
  • Reduce XT
Here are links:
 
Question on the reload program. I have full labels and pages of order receipts from probably a dozen orders. Do I really package all that up and mail it in or is there an easier way? Just thinking about how to actually mail it. Then with it do I just place in there a note that says what I would like as my free gifts?
 
Halfnattyman44 said:
Question on the reload program. I have full labels and pages of order receipts from probably a dozen orders. Do I really package all that up and mail it in or is there an easier way? Just thinking about how to actually mail it. Then with it do I just place in there a note that says what I would like as my free gifts?
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You can send the bottles or cut out the UPC's.

Some people cut out the UPC's to save money on shipping, but most people send the bottles to avoid the headache of cutting them out. Either way is fine with us.

You can print and send the order confirmations or you can PDF them and email them to me.

The link on the Reload page shows what to include, but it is:
Name
Shipping Information
Email Address
Phone Number
What Product(s) You Want
T-Shirt size if applicable

Here is a link to the details for anyone not familiar with the Reload program: https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/reload-loyalty-program/

We are going to have a major website update later this year and when that happens, direct orders will be tracked automatically and with loyalty program software, but the Reload program will still exist for products ordered from retailers.
 
Halfnattyman44 said:
Updates on the restock of Mtest, Inhibit E and P? I just started Optimize T and PCT Assist stacked as a replacement for now.
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M-Test we hope to have in next week.

Inhibit-P and Inhibit-E we hope to have back in within a couple weeks.

The tariff situation caused a lot of out of stocks, but we are getting things back in stock consistently now.
 
BigGame84 said:
Haven't come up with a suggestion in a while.

XPG 20-hydroxyecdysone topical.
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We had thought about doing an Ecdysterone a long time ago. Even had labels printed, we just never moved forward on it.

Would certainly be glad to if enough people are interested.
 
Paintball26 said:
Is there an ETA on when Focus XT will be added to the shop?
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I was hoping this week, but looking to hopefully be beginning of next week.

As some know, had a very rough last month life wise and just want to make sure can give the re-launch the proper attention.
 
sns8778 said:
We had thought about doing an Ecdysterone a long time ago. Even had labels printed, we just never moved forward on it.

Would certainly be glad to if enough people are interested.
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Yeah that sounds like a great product, I’d definitely try it. I know bioavailability is a problem orally so topical would be great.
 
sns8778 said:
We had thought about doing an Ecdysterone a long time ago. Even had labels printed, we just never moved forward on it.

Would certainly be glad to if enough people are interested.
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I'd release it. I think it would be a big seller.
 
sns8778 said:
I was hoping this week, but looking to hopefully be beginning of next week.

As some know, had a very rough last month life wise and just want to make sure can give the re-launch the proper attention.
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I hope that you are doing better. Glad that focus is coming soon, anything on daily gains… got a high school athlete at home and it would be great to get him something and not worry about quality, safety ect .
 
Shadowblaze said:
Yeah that sounds like a great product, I’d definitely try it. I know bioavailability is a problem orally so topical would be great.
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The oral bioavailability isn't as big of a problem as some make it out to be and is easy to overcome.

CEL Ecdy-Plex gets great feedback and we address the absorption from a couple different angles in that.

I'm open to doing a topical as well though. Labels have been done for a long time.
 
malin said:
I hope that you are doing better. Glad that focus is coming soon, anything on daily gains… got a high school athlete at home and it would be great to get him something and not worry about quality, safety ect .
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Daily Gains got held up a bit by the impact of the tariff situation, but should be available by end of year.

ATP Elite is an option that you may want to look at for him, and it will have some similarities to Daily Gains.

ATP Elite: https://anabolicminds.com/community/threads/atp-elite-strength-power-performance-recovery.339367/
 
sns8778 said:
The oral bioavailability isn't as big of a problem as some make it out to be and is easy to overcome.

CEL Ecdy-Plex gets great feedback and we address the absorption from a couple different angles in that.

I'm open to doing a topical as well though. Labels have been done for a long time.
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Yeah, if you already have the product it may be cool to let a few people test it and then compare it to the oral versions.
 
Shadowblaze said:
Yeah, if you already have the product it may be cool to let a few people test it and then compare it to the oral versions.
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I don't understand what you mean.

We have labels for an Ecdy topical, we just never made the product bc the demand didn't seem to be there. But if enough people are interested, we are glad to offer it.

CEL Ecdy-Plex has been available for quite some time, its actually sold out at the moment.
 
baldwanus said:
How about CordyPlex + arjuna extract product... kinda like MST's Cordygen :unsure:
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We have Cordy-Plex is ReV02 and Cordarine, and then use a potent Arjuna in Cardiovascular Support XT.

ReV02 is so good and so in depth as far as mechanisms, I feel like doing a simpler one like that would be a big step down from it. I would be open to it if enough people were interested though and appreciate the idea.
 
sns8778 said:
I don't understand what you mean.

We have labels for an Ecdy topical, we just never made the product bc the demand didn't seem to be there. But if enough people are interested, we are glad to offer it.

CEL Ecdy-Plex has been available for quite some time, its actually sold out at the moment.
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Sorry, I thought you had the product. I just misunderstood.
 
Shadowblaze said:
Sorry, I thought you had the product. I just misunderstood.
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No problem.

You had said:
I know bioavailability is a problem orally so topical would be great.

I had replied:
The oral bioavailability isn't as big of a problem as some make it out to be and is easy to overcome.

CEL Ecdy-Plex gets great feedback and we address the absorption from a couple different angles in that.

I'm open to doing a topical as well though. Labels have been done for a long time.

^^^ What I meant there was that oral bioavailability of Ecdysterone is nowhere near as bad as some brands make it out to be. Some brands use that as a sales pitch to try to promote their products - but the oral bioavailability isn't that bad and can easily be overcome with some simple things like Bioperine (Piperine), Naringin, etc.

We have had labels done for a Beta Ecdysterone topical for years. They were printed over 2 years ago, but we never moved forward on the product - meaning that it would be super easy to if people were interested.

I mentioned CEL Ecdy-Plex because it was an example of a product that we've offered for a long time that gets great feedback on it and we use multiple absorption enhancing pathways, which is why it works so well.
 
sns8778 said:
You can send the bottles or cut out the UPC's.

Some people cut out the UPC's to save money on shipping, but most people send the bottles to avoid the headache of cutting them out. Either way is fine with us.

You can print and send the order confirmations or you can PDF them and email them to me.

The link on the Reload page shows what to include, but it is:
Name
Shipping Information
Email Address
Phone Number
What Product(s) You Want
T-Shirt size if applicable

Here is a link to the details for anyone not familiar with the Reload program: https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/reload-loyalty-program/

We are going to have a major website update later this year and when that happens, direct orders will be tracked automatically and with loyalty program software, but the Reload program will still exist for products ordered from retailers.
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Am I understanding correctly that I can send a pdf of all the UPCs that I have or order forms instead of physically shipping them? I have so many bottles that I bought a new dremel to help cut them out. I’d happily film myself throwing them all in the dump after 😂

I think something to help reset dopamine receptors and balance out on stim breaks would be super cool.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Am I understanding correctly that I can send a pdf of all the UPCs that I have or order forms instead of physically shipping them? I have so many bottles that I bought a new dremel to help cut them out. I’d happily film myself throwing them all in the dump after 😂

I think something to help reset dopamine receptors and balance out on stim breaks would be super cool.
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No, we have to have the UPC's.

You can send the bottles, as in not cutting out the UPC's or you can cut out the UPC's. Some people cut out the UPC's and send just those to save on shipping; other people throw all the bottles in a box and send those because they don't want to fool with cutting them out.

We have had so much attempted fraud with the Reload program that everyone here, including our CPA, wants to cancel the program. The only way I've been able to keep it alive is by requiring the UPC's 100% of the time.

When the website changes happen later this year, the site will have a rewards program that will automatically track purchases from the site and function like an automated system. The Reload program will stay for people that order from retailers.

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And thank you for the product suggestion.
 
sns8778 said:
No, we have to have the UPC's.

You can send the bottles, as in not cutting out the UPC's or you can cut out the UPC's. Some people cut out the UPC's and send just those to save on shipping; other people throw all the bottles in a box and send those because they don't want to fool with cutting them out.

We have had so much attempted fraud with the Reload program that everyone here, including our CPA, wants to cancel the program. The only way I've been able to keep it alive is by requiring the UPC's 100% of the time.

When the website changes happen later this year, the site will have a rewards program that will automatically track purchases from the site and function like an automated system. The Reload program will stay for people that order from retailers.

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And thank you for the product suggestion.
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Yeah that makes total sense. I have about 4 rubber made bins fulls of bottles. I might have to turn in slowly to not turn the company upside down
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Yeah that makes total sense. I have about 4 rubber made bins fulls of bottles. I might have to turn in slowly to not turn the company upside down
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Send in as many as you'd like. You can cut out the UPC's or throw them all in a big box/boxes.

Cutting out the UPC's makes for cheaper shipping.

Sending them without cutting out the UPC's saves a lot of time cutting them out.

It works out the same for us, so its whatever is best for you.
 
Not a new product suggestion but a suggestion none the less...

Something like a 10% off code for AM members to be used anytime (except for sales) when ordering direct from SNS and CEL.

I think this would make more people order direct from the site.
 
So, is producing things like 5 Hour Energy type shots an extra hassle? I feel like the answer is probably yes haha, but if it wasn't a super hassle, the ideas could be endless... :unsure:
 
BigGame84 said:
Not a new product suggestion but a suggestion none the less...

Something like a 10% off code for AM members to be used anytime (except for sales) when ordering direct from SNS and CEL.

I think this would make more people order direct from the site.
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We are in the middle of a huge project of redoing the website, and there will be some discount opportunities when it is completed. It will continue to have the multi-pack deals and there will be subscription options, referral rewards, a rewards program, and much more.
 
baldwanus said:
So, is producing things like 5 Hour Energy type shots an extra hassle? I feel like the answer is probably yes haha, but if it wasn't a super hassle, the ideas could be endless... :unsure:
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The MOQ's are very high on them and you're limited to how many mg/grams of ingredients will work in them.

I would love to do them, but it requires tying up a lot of money and would need more retailers and more people knowing about the brands to make it feasible.
 
sns8778 said:
We are in the middle of a huge project of redoing the website, and there will be some discount opportunities when it is completed. It will continue to have the multi-pack deals and there will be subscription options, referral rewards, a rewards program, and much more.
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That sounds great!Will there be options to order from all the three companies at the same time?
 
Probably not, different companies . I imagine book keeping ect would be difficult. On a different note I’m ( not so ) patiently waiting for a Focus xt , hoping Steve is doing well.
 
Come to think of it, I had goBHB in Primeval Labs Gray Matter a few years back which had a good dose of 4g. I remember feeling really good on it, way better than just 200mg caffeine. I used it mainly for intense 1 hour road cycling sessions. It was discontinued soon after I used it. I'd definitely be a repeat customer.
 
schizm said:
any upcoming releases with goBHB ? Was just watching a Lobliner YT about it, looks promising.
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We haven't had anyone ask about it in years, so no plans to.

I may would be open to it, but we haven't had any requests for it.
 
ride1979 said:
That sounds great!Will there be options to order from all the three companies at the same time?
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No, I'm sorry but there will not be because they are separate companies.
 
sns8778 said:
We haven't had anyone ask about it in years, so no plans to.

I may would be open to it, but we haven't had any requests for it.
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I would formally like to submit a request for it, lol single ingredient would be fine. Lobliner is saying he prefers upwards of 10-20g per day, fwiw
 
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