I absolutely would be too!!!I don’t remember everything else included in Drive, but if you could do a well-dosed epimedium and forskolin product, I’d be all over that.
I absolutely would be too!!!I don’t remember everything else included in Drive, but if you could do a well-dosed epimedium and forskolin product, I’d be all over that.
We'll be doing both a Horny Goat Weed XT and a Forskolin product hopefully in the next couple of months.I absolutely would be too!!!
Thank you for the suggestions. We will have more pre-workout options coming out this year.Carb free pre workout/pump product
I don't like discussing or teasing ingredients before a week or so before the release of a product. Because then if delays happen, people tend to get more upset about things. And unfortunately, sometimes delays are just inevitable.I'm Ready for the Anabolic XT! Would you be dropping a write up and Ingredient hint soon?
I've been on the forums forever, I still don't understand why some people would get so upset about this stuff.I don't like discussing or teasing ingredients before a week or so before the release of a product. Because then if delays happen, people tend to get more upset about things. And unfortunately, sometimes delays are just inevitable.
I know it can be fun to tease and discuss things but I've done it in the past and some people were just not very understanding and nice about it when there had been delays.
Agreed. Personally, I enjoy the anticipation threads where things are discussed ahead of time to bring some hype. I think we all understand there can be delays, especially how things are right now.I've been on the forums forever, I still don't understand why some people would get so upset about this stuff.
I understand and I can't wait, but I am also more than glad to wait for quality stuff. SNS does things right.
It's funny that now days you see XT at the end of a lot of companies products. We were the original ones to use that at the end of a product name and started doing that back in 2004. Another company copied us shortly after and now its used by a lot of companies.I see "XT" at the end of a lot of SNS product names. Is that a special code for something? Or is it just a cool suffix?
(Sorry if this is common knowledge... )
Thank you.I've been on the forums forever, I still don't understand why some people would get so upset about this stuff.
I understand and I can't wait, but I am also more than glad to wait for quality stuff. SNS does things right.
I appreciate it. I wish that everyone could be as understanding and nice about it.Agreed. Personally, I enjoy the anticipation threads where things are discussed ahead of time to bring some hype. I think we all understand there can be delays, especially how things are right now.
Hello. I appreciate the info you bring here; it helps me make decisions on what to use according to my needs. Without your posts here I wouldn't have discovered Optimize-T or M Test so thank you!Thank you.
I don't understand it either. I try so hard to be helpful and provide great products and it really bothers me when people are so rude about it. That's why I didn't do it for a long time; then I started back again for awhile and then stopped again for the same reasons.
I love discussing supplements in general but I hate negativity and try to stay away from it. I have so many things going on in my own life that I'm dealing with and battling with my health, the last thing I need is to come on a forum where I'm trying to help people and discuss something I love like supplements and then have to deal with negativity on here.
I appreciate the people that are truly excited about the new releases and want to see them happen; I do too. There are products that I'm looking so forward to taking myself that I'm super excited too and disappointed at the delays myself, but I wish the people that were rude about it or act like I'm intentionally giving wrong ETA's would think about it from my perspective - that in addition to wanting to try many of them myself, I'm the one that has money tied up in them. Like right now, I'm not exaggerating when I say that I literally have over 20k tied up in just labels for products that haven't come out yet; so I can promise that no one wants them to come out more than me haha.
I still need to make the 2022 version of this thread. I might put some teasers and hints in there. And I may start an Anabolic XT thread in the next weeks and just see how it goes.
you become - xtra terrestrial when taking the productsI see "XT" at the end of a lot of SNS product names. Is that a special code for something? Or is it just a cool suffix?
(Sorry if this is common knowledge... )
Ditto this. Truth is, @sns8778, you're the only member here that I follow, because I learn so much by reading your posts. Which in turn... made me to want to buy so many of your supplements!Hello. I appreciate the info you bring here; it helps me make decisions on what to use according to my needs. Without your posts here I wouldn't have discovered Optimize-T or M Test so thank you!
I didn’t know you’ve been in supplements business for so long. Out of curiosity what brands did you have at that time? If this is something you want and can share.It's funny that now days you see XT at the end of a lot of companies products. We were the original ones to use that at the end of a product name and started doing that back in 2004. Another company copied us shortly after and now its used by a lot of companies.
Back then, we had used the word Xtreme at the end of a couple product names but there were some things that Xtreme didn't really sound right at the end of so we were just brain storming and came up with XT. Then we started using more as just something to be known for years down the road to help people identify some of our products. For example, if you want Agmatine and go go google and type Agmatine, you probably wouldn't have ours come up. But if you type Agmatine XT, you probably would. Same for ZMA XT and more.
We are hoping that it will be back in stock within the next 2 weeks.Any update on Lean Edge?
Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate the kind words. They mean more to me than you likely know. I really mean that.Hello. I appreciate the info you bring here; it helps me make decisions on what to use according to my needs. Without your posts here I wouldn't have discovered Optimize-T or M Test so thank you!
Thank you so much as well. That really made me smile and is very much appreciated.Ditto this. Truth is, @sns8778, you're the only member here that I follow, because I learn so much by reading your posts. Which in turn... made me to want to buy so many of your supplements!
SNS was founded in 2004 and was the first brand that I had ownership in but before then, I was already doing some raw material sourcing and formulating for some other brands (sorry, I can't say for who back then).I didn’t know you’ve been in supplements business for so long. Out of curiosity what brands did you have at that time? If this is something you want and can share.
It should be shipping to us this week. We will start shipping out to retailers as soon as we receive it.Any eta on more AE being in stock? Thanks
Thought about it at one time but its never sold well for anyone that's ever done one.What about Tribulus Alatus?
Regarding the HGW XT, can you tell us the % of standardization for Icariin?We'll be doing both a Horny Goat Weed XT and a Forskolin product hopefully in the next couple of months.
They won't be in the same product but will be cost effective individual options.
The plan at this time is for it to be a 20% Icariin.Regarding the HGW XT, can you tell us the % of standardization for Icariin?
Background info as in about product ideas or industry background? I was just curious.I don’t have all that much to say but I very much enjoy reading the background info here.
Also excited for restocks of lean edge and super swole.
Toniq's is interesting in that it is some fancy labeling but really not a fancy product. I don't mean that in a bad way - props to them for creativity.Have you considered a potent or mixed (multiple extracts) ginseng product? I’ve found the Toniiq brand one to give me quite an energetic and uplifted mood. Seems like there’s always stable interest in ginseng
Thank you for your reply. Everything you said makes perfect sense as I researched HGW heavily back in the day when 20%, 40%, and 50% Icariin products were first available. It was one of the first standardized adaptogens that I ever used with great results and to this day I still cycle it at least 2-3 times a year. I'm excited to try a 20% Icariin product from you guys and look forward to its release along with the release of Fadogia XT.The plan at this time is for it to be a 20% Icariin.
The legitimate standardizations are 10% and 20% and you see the occasional 40% but if you actually test the raw materials, most anything above 20% is BS and is a blend of the different Icariins and not just Icariin. And even if it was a true 40%, it wouldn't make sense to do it bc its exponentially more expensive meaning that you could use 2x the dose of 20% for less than you could a 40%.
I hope that makes sense.
Thank you. It will definitely get done; just not sure exactly when.Thank you for your reply. Everything you said makes perfect sense as I researched HGW heavily back in the day when 20%, 40%, and 50% Icariin products were first available. It was one of the first standardized adaptogens that I ever used with great results and to this day I still cycle it at least 2-3 times a year. I'm excited to try a 20% Icariin product from you guys and look forward to its release along with the release of Fadogia XT.
Thanks. Raw materials are in and I just approved the final label text to go to print on Monday. So this one will enter the production que in the next few weeks.Waiting for the Fadogia too.
Thank you. I appreciate that. I had thought about it but I don't know much about where to even do a successful blog. I use the SNS Blog on the site just for product releases but thought about doing more article or blog type information. But I also thought about trying to figure out how to have an off SNS site blog to where I could write a little more freely.Few things now that I'm caught up. Would love to see you do your own supp ingredient blog @sns8778! Also, saw you have some Super Swole flavor samples. Any thought to removing glycerol and swapping with something else? Nitrates, nitrosigine, etc? I've just found that glycerol doesn't sit well with me anymore which rules a lot of fun pre's out. Also interested in the icariin XT, haven't seen a good one since probably the old hey day of the 90s.
spike it with microdose psilocybinThank you.
I've been considering this and have a couple of draft formulas. There are so many ways one could go about this bc there are so many different mushrooms on the market.
Let's make that product under a brand in your name hahaspike it with microdose psilocybin
Label is chronic(kronic) labsspike it with microdose psilocybin
I like the industry background. It amazes me that companies appear to have little to no leverage with raw ingredient suppliers.Background info as in about product ideas or industry background? I was just curious.
Lean Edge is in transit to us now. We're hoping it will be back in stock on Tuesday.
Super Swole - we have approved flavor samples of 2 of the 3 flavors. The third still needs some work; but going to try to go ahead and move forward into production with the two we have approved.
I've thought about doing a PrimaVie product but there are so many companies that do one already I wasn't sure if there would be enough interest.Standalone shilajit - primavie and trifulvic mix maybe ?
Astragalus extract?
Thank you. I like discussing the industry background and behind the scenes stuff with people that are interested.I like the industry background. It amazes me that companies appear to have little to no leverage with raw ingredient suppliers.
I'm very sorry to hear about your loss (family funeral).Just a quick mention for Joint Support - I’ve been off this week with my supps due to a family funeral and having family over from Ireland (= a week on the sauce).
I’ve really noticed the difference with not using joint support, my elbows, which have been an issue, are clicking away like mad and are as sore as hell. Jumped back on them this morning and hopefully the benefits start up again soon but it’s a helluva difference.
Sorry for the loss brother .. condolences to fam & friends and thanks for sharing the feedback .. i love the jointXT myselfJust a quick mention for Joint Support - I’ve been off this week with my supps due to a family funeral and having family over from Ireland (= a week on the sauce).
I’ve really noticed the difference with not using joint support, my elbows, which have been an issue, are clicking away like mad and are as sore as hell. Jumped back on them this morning and hopefully the benefits start up again soon but it’s a helluva difference.
You may be right about the Primavie but it's an ideaI've thought about doing a PrimaVie product but there are so many companies that do one already I wasn't sure if there would be enough interest.
Thank you for the suggestion though and I'll definitely keep it in mind.
Which type Astragalus Extract? I've researched this a lot so I'm curious what you're thinking. There's basic extract for kidney health and then there is Cycloastragenol, Astragaloside IV, and more.
I'm very sorry to hear about your loss (family funeral).
Thank you for sharing your feedback on Joint Support XT. I'm really glad that it helps you and that you like it.
Cheers fellas.Sorry for the loss brother .. condolences to fam & friends and thanks for sharing the feedback .. i love the jointXT myself
This is great news, I forgot you mentioned that! Guess I know what's going to be my new pump pre soon!Super Swole - We did remove the GlycerPump; that's why we've been redoing the samples. We did replace it with something else but I can't say what yet. We are interested in using Nitrosigine in some upcoming things but it won't be in Super Swole. Nitrates I stay away from because of the patent issues and I doubt we are big enough or have a big enough marketing budget for him to want to license them to us.
I’m gonna be experimenting with some things I hope to see be added.I hope that everyone's new year is off to a great start.
We had a thread last year that produced a lot of great suggestions for products that people would like to see from us.
Although initially delayed by the Covid situation, many of the ideas from that thread are now on their way and in various stages of production.
The 2020 version of this thread is still going strong with multiple ideas being discussed. I want to keep that going and this new thread is by no means meant to take away from that one at all.
I have just had some people message me & ask if there would be a 2021 version of the thread so that they could throw out ideas (without feeling like they had to go thru the long 2020 one). So for this thread, it doesn't matter if the idea was mentioned in the 2020 one, we still want to hear it
I look forward to hearing any ideas that people would like to see from SNS and Competitive Edge Labs in 2021.
Feel free to suggest single ingredient and/or combination ideas.
Thanks and I look forward to seeing everyone's ideas.
@N2ofusion heads up lean edge is all stocked up .. currently on sale for @28.99 @DPSI don’t have all that much to say but I very much enjoy reading the background info here.
Also excited for restocks of lean edge and super swole.