We use it in M-Test. I think its a great ingredient in a formula but just not really popular to warrant being a single ingredient product.Is there a reason why there are no more Divanil solo supplements? Legit they do not exist anymore
We use it in M-Test. I think its a great ingredient in a formula but just not really popular to warrant being a single ingredient product.Is there a reason why there are no more Divanil solo supplements? Legit they do not exist anymore
have you looked for "stinging nettle" as that I see around pretty often?Is there a reason why there are no more Divanil solo supplements? Legit they do not exist anymore
Divanil would have a higher percentage of certain active constituents that regular stinging nettle would.have you looked for "stinging nettle" as that I see around pretty often?
Is there a particular extract of it that you have in mind? It can be extracted a few different ways for different purposes, but a lot of people seem to prefer the full spectrum to get a variety of the benefits.Maybe a strong and concentrated extract of Ecklonia Cava?
I haven't tried any extract yet, I was looking at the swanson 80:1 and another brand's 20:1, but the 20:1 doesnt specify the % of actives. I was looking for it to increase endurance.Is there a particular extract of it that you have in mind? It can be extracted a few different ways for different purposes, but a lot of people seem to prefer the full spectrum to get a variety of the benefits.
Opinions are going to vary on this one but in my opinion if you're looking to increase endurance, then I would go for a full spectrum.I haven't tried any extract yet, I was looking at the swanson 80:1 and another brand's 20:1, but the 20:1 doesnt specify the % of actives. I was looking for it to increase endurance.
Peak02 doesn't seem to be as good as a good codycepts like mst cordygenOpinions are going to vary on this one but in my opinion if you're looking to increase endurance, then I would go for a full spectrum.
I think that Ecklonia is a good ingredient and we may use it in something in the future. And I do think that it has potential for endurance but for straight endurance, I think PEAK02 is a much better ingredient.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and sometimes things work different in different people.Peak02 doesn't seem to be as good as a good codycepts like mst cordygen
I have been enjoying 200mg of Sabroxy (uplifting energetic focus), 200mg Polygala Tenuifolia 20:1 (mood lifting) and 200mg caffeine.
I have been doing this 2 days a week and not on back to back days.
What sides have you noticed from Polygala and at what dosing if you don't mind me asking?Not really a reason for not using Sabroxy daily, but it stacks well with Polygala and I only want to use that twice a week. Polygala is good for acute occasional use for me. I noticed some sides when I used it daily.
Plus I use other things on other days.
Lowers my libido when I use it daily. It also becomes inconsistent for me when I use it everyday.What sides have you noticed from Polygala and at what dosing if you don't mind me asking?
Thank you for sharing. I'm looking to add some more single ingredient nootropics to the lineup and also working on a couple of formulas; so its really important to avoid anything that has much in the way of sides for the formula ones.Lowers my libido when I use it daily. It also becomes inconsistent for me when I use it everyday.
It works pretty well when I use it a couple days a week. I use ND’s 200mg 20:1 extract capsules.
I am not sure if others notice this or if it’s just the way it works with me? Regardless, it is an interesting nootropic that does give me a nice mood boost with some added focus. It is worth looking into for sure.Thank you for sharing. I'm looking to add some more single ingredient nootropics to the lineup and also working on a couple of formulas; so its really important to avoid anything that has much in the way of sides for the formula ones.
Thanks for the suggestion. It is so expensive that if we did it, we'd probably do a capsule version just to be able to reach the maximum amount of customers. It seems like especially for higher price/lower dose options many customers prefer capsules.Na-R-ALA powder would be a cool addition. Or a complex with other forms like R-ALA
I was just saying cordygen was better than peak02 for me. Not generic cordyceptsEveryone is entitled to their own opinion and sometimes things work different in different people.
In the case of PEAK02, it has been clinically researched and has clinical study backing from UNC Chapel Hill.
If a generic extract of Cordyceps is better, or if the supplier thinks its better, they should definitely have some studies of their own done on it.
And I'm not knocking Cordyceps at all. We've been asked to do one and we probably will for the people that like it, but feedback on PEAK02 has been overwhelmingly positive not just for us, but for other companies that use it in products.
Also, I have a medical condition that greatly affects my endurance levels. PEAK02 is probably the best thing I've ever used to increase cardiovascular & muscular endurance.
In your original post, you didn't say - for you. You said that it didn't seem as good as; like as a general statement. That's why I said that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and things work differently for different people. We've had a lot of people say that PEAK02 works better than Cordygen, I just don't like to compare directly to other companies products.I was just saying cordygen was better than peak02 for me. Not generic cordycepts
Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback and feel like we will likely offer it at least as a single ingredient.I am not sure if others notice this or if it’s just the way it works with me? Regardless, it is an interesting nootropic that does give me a nice mood boost with some added focus. It is worth looking into for sure.
IDK sure looks like they call it oxycepts ATP on the bottle and it's trademarked. So doesn't seem to be generic. You're missing outIn your original post, you didn't say - for you. You said that it didn't seem as good as; like as a general statement. That's why I said that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and things work differently for different people. We've had a lot of people say that PEAK02 works better than Cordygen, I just don't like to compare directly to other companies products.
But when comparing the ingredients head to head - one has clinical studies and one doesn't. That's not a knock against their extract. That's why I said that if their supplier truly feels like the extract they provide them with is better, they should do clinical studies on it too.
What I meant by a generic extract is that the type of Cordyceps used in Cordygen is a generic extract - meaning that its not a clinically researched branded ingredient. That wasn't an insult; and that's why I explained in the post that if it was truly that good, the supplier that provides it to them should consider having some studies done on it.
^^^^ that's not a knock on it. We're looking at doing a Cordyceps and several other mushroom products so if their vendor did have good clinical data, that would give them a competitive advantage over other suppliers.
I hope that makes sense.
I would love to see you offer a good cordyceps extract! The only reason I didn’t suggest it is because I know you offer Peak02 and feel it’s better. Personally, I prefer cordyceps extract solo.In your original post, you didn't say - for you. You said that it didn't seem as good as; like as a general statement. That's why I said that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and things work differently for different people. We've had a lot of people say that PEAK02 works better than Cordygen, I just don't like to compare directly to other companies products.
But when comparing the ingredients head to head - one has clinical studies and one doesn't. That's not a knock against their extract. That's why I said that if their supplier truly feels like the extract they provide them with is better, they should do clinical studies on it too.
What I meant by a generic extract is that the type of Cordyceps used in Cordygen is a generic extract - meaning that its not a clinically researched branded ingredient. That wasn't an insult; and that's why I explained in the post that if it was truly that good, the supplier that provides it to them should consider having some studies done on it.
^^^^ that's not a knock on it. We're looking at doing a Cordyceps and several other mushroom products so if their vendor did have good clinical data, that would give them a competitive advantage over other suppliers.
I hope that makes sense.
I really hate engaging in conversations like this. Please take my reply as being informative and not as being a jerk, because I really do like you and appreciate your contributions on here. Plus, my post isn't just to you, its to anyone reading now or in the future bc a lot of people say they like when I explain things like this.IDK sure looks like they call it oxycepts ATP on the bottle and it's trademarked. So doesn't seem to be generic. You're missing out
PEAK02 is great but I'm not opposed to offering different types of ingredients. PEAK02 is a mixture and some people (like me) will respond much better to that but some may not. I'm all about varietyI would love to see you offer a good cordyceps extract! The only reason I didn’t suggest it is because I know you offer Peak02 and feel it’s better. Personally, I prefer cordyceps extract solo.
Do you agree that they're likely the best when it comes to mushrooms?Happy to hear you’re in discussions with Nammex.
Disagree.Opinions are going to vary on this one but in my opinion if you're looking to increase endurance, then I would go for a full spectrum.
I think that Ecklonia is a good ingredient and we may use it in something in the future. And I do think that it has potential for endurance but for straight endurance, I think PEAK02 is a much better ingredient.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and it shows how different people respond differently to different things.Disagree.
My endurance on EC is Leaps & Bounds above Peak02, and I've taken Peak02 much more. I would eager, bulk EC gave me better endurance.
I've taken other products from MST, which absolutely destroy Peak03 in endurance too. I'm actually not impressed by it.
Ecklonia is one of those things that can be extracted for different things so when you see something like 20:1, it's really like 20:1 what? From what I've read, a lot of people prefer a full spectrum on this.Honestly, I was super lucky it was being sold on eBay here in Australia. I've been actually trying to get in touch to buy more, but their not selling it any longer.
I have no idea, it may of been 20:1 extract and I was dosing 3-5g PWO.
It was cheap, and I definitely noticed effects and I literally don't notice much from most supplements.
If I can get in touch, I'll let you know.Ecklonia is one of those things that can be extracted for different things so when you see something like 20:1, it's really like 20:1 what? From what I've read, a lot of people prefer a full spectrum on this.
I'd be glad to offer it; I just want to make sure the type we would offer is what people would want. We're going to be using it in something coming up anyway so no big issue at all if people wanted to see us offer it as a single ingredient capsule or powder.
I appreciate that.If I can get in touch, I'll let you know.
100% it worked for me, and most people know I don't praise many ingredients on here.
You're absolutely right tho, had no idea what I was getting! Haha
Haven't looked into it but I appreciate the suggestion. I'm open to pretty much anything that enough people are interested in.Say SNS, any interest in date palm seeds? I just read in ergolog that aside from testosterone benefits, it also helps increase good cholesterol and reduces bad cholesterol.
Thank you for the suggestion.i recently bumped my 500mg berberine to 1500 and noticed a profound difference in endurance, pumps, and even strength, which led to to explore absorption. then i came across a powder that addresses that and claims to have 2x the half-life. I'd like to see a glucovantage supplement in the 300mg per cap range. there are some reviews stating how other formulations are lackluster, and this may owe to the old philosophy of giving someone 1/5 the dose if a product is up to 5x better absorbed.
sounds good!Thank you for the suggestion.
I'm very familiar with this ingredient and I think you'll be very happy soon
The only thing though is that 300 mg. per capsule would be too high on this. Their dosage range is 100 to 200 mg. one to two times per day. I'm normally all about dosing things as high as reasonably possible but this is one of those where its better to do 100 mg. per capsule and just to more caps per bottle so that people can dose it according to their individual response and needs rather than dose too high and some people not be able to take it.
If you have anymore suggestions, let me know. I appreciate the ideas.sounds good!
Patiently waiting! Excited about the Curcumin product too.Yes, it is. If that's one you're waiting on, you should be very happy within the next month or so
Thank you. I'm really excited about the Curcumin one as well.Patiently waiting! Excited about the Curcumin product too.
Any new time tables on amento?Thank you. I'm really excited about the Curcumin one as well.
We have so many things in the works right now, we have such a wide variety of new releases planned - from natural anabolics, to general health formulas, to single ingredient stuff.
We have so many products that sometimes our products bump our own products back in terms of production time. At any given time, we may have 20+ PO's in the production lineup so we often have to group them into priorities. So if for example we're out of 2 great sellers, something that doesn't sell as well or something new may get bumped back.Any new time tables on amento?
I quoted this over from another thread to see if I can get more opinions.Would also like to see SNS do a Nighttime Amino, like Primeval has.
Or even a basic EAA/BCAA w/out caffeine... (so I can add SNS GABA powder).
Trying to avoid the Amino's w/ caffeine, I like to take mine at night...
The MAP patent expired and there are a handful of companies like perfect aminos charging an arm and a leg for the powder with stevia and some citric acid. This guy in a facebook thread of mine bought the same raws and sold a few thousand in like a few weeks because these guys believe in the ratios. Ive found the low tryptophan doesnt cause the drowsy effect you can get from other eaa blends, and the low methionine/lack of histidine makes it less inflammatory. Anyway, the guy's company is optimalaminos and the price point is awesome, way better than fortagen/perfectaminos xt, but im not buying because he added a prebiotic. Anyway, i go through 3lbs a month of it at 180$ and id let the groups know if an alternative came out. Its pretty awesome, it has 5 calories, doesnt break a fast, and ive lost 14 lbs dieting and have nevertheless lost zero strength taking in 30g a day of thatI quoted this over from another thread to see if I can get more opinions.
We've been asked for and have been considering doing a straight BCAA, a straight EAA, or an EAA formula.
I'm leaning towards doing an EAA formula because I have a design for one I really like but still may do a straight EAA or BCAA for the people that want just maximum value for the price.
I'd love to hear any input on what people would like to see.
Just in time for me to order more Joint Support XT!We have so many products that sometimes our products bump our own products back in terms of production time. At any given time, we may have 20+ PO's in the production lineup so we often have to group them into priorities. So if for example we're out of 2 great sellers, something that doesn't sell as well or something new may get bumped back.
So now for the good news, Amentoflavone XT is in the very next group so it should be completed in the next couple of weeks
I'm sorry, I'm honestly confused. I don't know what the MAP patent is that you're referring to.The MAP patent expired and there are a handful of companies like perfect aminos charging an arm and a leg for the powder with stevia and some citric acid. This guy in a facebook thread of mine bought the same raws and sold a few thousand in like a few weeks because these guys believe in the ratios. Ive found the low tryptophan doesnt cause the drowsy effect you can get from other eaa blends, and the low methionine/lack of histidine makes it less inflammatory. Anyway, the guy's company is optimalaminos and the price point is awesome, way better than fortagen/perfectaminos xt, but im not buying because he added a prebiotic. Anyway, i go through 3lbs a month of it at 180$ and id let the groups know if an alternative came out. Its pretty awesome, it has 5 calories, doesnt break a fast, and ive lost 14 lbs dieting and have nevertheless lost zero strength taking in 30g a day of that
I would be glad to consider it. What do you have in mind?Would you consider doing a powdered general health formula? If it were possible to flavor and mix well, I’d certainly use it. Sometimes I hate taking as many pills as I do, and a health product powder would cut down on a ton for me.
Thank you. We are considering doing a BCAA, an EAA, &/or a cool EAA formula product.I posted in the other thread but I’d be all about a well dosed EAA formula w/o caffeine. I don’t feel like their are many great options on the market here at decent prices.
I would also love a powdered fat burner type product. I love lean edge and the formula for thermagize is great but I don’t like taking my stims in pill form so I don’t end up purchasing that product. Since Alphamine died it seems like there aren’t many great options here either.