Def noticing libido enhancement and erection quality on pine pollen caps 6 a day, 3 am and 3 pm.
The one company that I know of that did a Cocoabuterol, their sales on it were terrible. And we've never been asked; so hadn't really thought of it. I'd be open to it, just hadn't seemed like the demand was there.Have you ever considered cocobuterol or cocovia solo? These would be interesting but I can never justify the price points of what’s offered.
Is isopropylnorsynephrine compliant? Could you offer that solo?
Awesome. Thanks for letting us know. If you have time and think about it, please post that in the Pine Pollen thread as well. Feedback always helps other people that may be trying to decide on whether to give it a try.Def noticing libido enhancement and erection quality on pine pollen caps 6 a day, 3 am and 3 pm.
No, it isn't. One particular raw material was just out of stock for a very long time due to the Covid situation. It is supposed to be available within the next 2 weeks. So we hope to have it back in stock as soon as possible.Is Growth Factor XT being discontinued? Sold out at DPS and be noticed it’s not on your site.
I would love to do more flavors for it, but honestly it would need to sell better to justify it. It's a great product and I think anyone that tries it head to head with ON's would like the results better, the word just hasn't seemed to get out on it yet.How about more energized amino flavors? Maybe an orange cooler flavor like optimum nutritions amino energy or a lemonade punch like Phase one nutritions pre-phase preworkout. Also larger tubs like focus xt where You can actually fit your hand in would be cool lol.
Oh, and appreciate the flavor suggestions. We have several new flavors lined up for Focus XT.How about more energized amino flavors? Maybe an orange cooler flavor like optimum nutritions amino energy or a lemonade punch like Phase one nutritions pre-phase preworkout. Also larger tubs like focus xt where You can actually fit your hand in would be cool lol.
curious if you have taken any other brand of this and if you noticed something ?Have you ever looked into a sulforaphane supplement?
I think this would be an awesome idea in conjunction with other anti-aging ingredients. Cruciferous vegetables in general have so many health benefitsHave you ever looked into a sulforaphane supplement?
I have tried to get at times by eating a lot of broccoli sprouts but have been very inconsistent as they aren’t always available and it’s a pain to eat everyday when they are. I have maybe noticed that my joints feel better but I probably have never been consistent enough to determine. I’d like to try in a supplement, adequately dosed and with the components necessary (I forget the specifics but my understanding was that most supplements on the market contain a precursor to sulforaphane and myrosinase is necessary to convert it).curious if you have taken any other brand of this and if you noticed something ?
ive always been surprised that its not used in cycle supports products
Thank you for the suggestion. We have never been asked for this before so I'd never thought of it.Have you ever looked into a sulforaphane supplement?
I'm open to suggestions. The thing with an anti-aging supplement is the term anti-aging means different things to different people so its hard to know what to try to target.I think this would be an awesome idea in conjunction with other anti-aging ingredients. Cruciferous vegetables in general have so many health benefits
Thank you for the information. I have never looked into it, but will add it to my list of things to try to look into. If you have anymore information on it that you'd like to share, please feel free to post it or pm me with it.I have tried to get at times by eating a lot of broccoli sprouts but have been very inconsistent as they aren’t always available and it’s a pain to eat everyday when they are. I have maybe noticed that my joints feel better but I probably have never been consistent enough to determine. I’d like to try in a supplement, adequately dosed and with the components necessary (I forget the specifics but my understanding was that most supplements on the market contain a precursor to sulforaphane and myrosinase is necessary to convert it).
My best guess would be 6 to 8 weeks. I would like for it to be quicker, but the average lead time is 6 weeks for a new product and that's if everything goes right.Hey @sns8778, I know you guys have got a lot going on at the moment and that Covid will slow down production, but could you give a rough estimate of when the PA supplement could be ready please?
Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't expecting all of that, but it's definitely interesting. I wasn't even expecting it that quickly to be honest. Our gyms are expected to be re-opening in April/May, so including the extra couple of weeks for the UK retailers to get it in stock, that lands at the right time for us.My best guess would be 6 to 8 weeks. I would like for it to be quicker, but the average lead time is 6 weeks for a new product and that's if everything goes right.
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This isn't specific to to you, I just have had a lot of people say that they like when I give industry insights so I'll explain the process a little more. These are not in a sequential order because some of them may be going on at the same time. The things involved in bringing out a new product include:
Label Process:
Production Aspect:
- Creating the label text
- Getting the label art file created
- Sending the label art files to the branded ingredient company(ies) for approval; then having any of the requested changes made.
- Sending labels to print (takes about 2 weeks to get them on average) + shipping time
- Sending labels to the contract manufacturer (some brands will have them sent directly to the cm; I'm not a fan of that because I like to make sure there are no print errors.
Other:
- Getting raw material quotes
- Getting licensing agreements set up (if using a branded ingredient)
- Getting a finished product quote from the contract manufacturer
- Ordering of raw materials + transit times
- Raw material testing
- Any wait time from the contract manufacturer to be fit into the production line
- Production time
- Additional testing
- Ship time to company
(And I'm probably forgetting some things because I typed all that off the top of my head).
- Writing the write up
- Getting renders and graphics done
- Any additional choreographing of the product launch with retailers or advertising sites.
Re-runs are always a lot quicker because numerous steps are eliminated but they still take more time than many people realize.
^^^ That's one of the reasons why I laugh to myself sometimes when companies make it out like they can have a product out in a week or two bc its impossible if following GMP guidelines and doing proper testing.
What are you thinking? Like for an anti-aging type product? Or have something else in mind?I read on ergolog that the top three longevity ingredients are rosmarinic acid, pomegranate, and curcumin. Maybe you can make a capsule that includes all three?
Anti-aging and general overall health supplement.What are you thinking? Like for an anti-aging type product? Or have something else in mind?
I had been asking for ideas of what people would like to see out of a anti-aging supplement so I could see them going in something like that. Thanks for the suggestions.Anti-aging and general overall health supplement.
Olive Lead Extract. Collagen. D3. etc etc. Would be marvelous and I'd buy it monthly. I've been on these chits for 16 plus years now and I'm 40+ and everyone thinks I'm like 26. A girl I worked with the other day found out my age and she's 31 and swore I was way younger than her.I had been asking for ideas of what people would like to see out of a anti-aging supplement so I could see them going in something like that. Thanks for the suggestions.
What is ur collagen of choiceOlive Lead Extract. Collagen. D3. etc etc. Would be marvelous and I'd buy it monthly. I've been on these chits for 16 plus years now and I'm 40+ and everyone thinks I'm like 26. A girl I worked with the other day found out my age and she's 31 and swore I was way younger than her.
Do it!
I'm open to ideas on anti-aging supps for sure. Olive Leaf and D are easy to put in one. Collagen, if high dose wouldn't be suitable for a capsule product so may would have to be a separate product. Or could do a collagen with a few overall health things in it to make it different.Olive Lead Extract. Collagen. D3. etc etc. Would be marvelous and I'd buy it monthly. I've been on these chits for 16 plus years now and I'm 40+ and everyone thinks I'm like 26. A girl I worked with the other day found out my age and she's 31 and swore I was way younger than her.
Do it!
I'll second this, it was in PES genoflex and that joint supp treated me really well.I read that passion fruit seeds stimulate the production of collagen in the body. It sounds like a cheap, plentiful source to turn into a supplement.
being what?Turkesterone 500 mg caps. Works on a different pathway, would stack well with any of your products, has some good anecdotal evidence.....
They are virtually all the same but you'd want I,II,III types. I also use a cream after showering so it hit it with the 1+2, ingest it and put it on my mug.What is ur collagen of choice
There was a thread going awhile back that I posted some lengthy info about this in. The problem with Turkesterone is that you cannot get the ingredient with the proper active content at a reasonable price. You can find Turkesterone itself but brands either don't list the standardization or play word games with it. Based on the effective dose in the studies and the price of real raw materials from Uzbekistan, you would be looking at something like the 40 dollar range in just raw material costs.Turkesterone 500 mg caps. Works on a different pathway, would stack well with any of your products, has some good anecdotal evidence.....
What type of cream do you use? Off subject, just curious.They are virtually all the same but you'd want I,II,III types. I also use a cream after showering so it hit it with the 1+2, ingest it and put it on my mug.
ALL my friends would roast me for "spending money on those silly 'supps'" all the time, now all of them look like they could be my actual Dad. I'm glad the gazillions I sunk into buying them monthly for this many years paid off lol.
The supplement for inflammation for sure.Any interest in these types of formulas?
Whole Body Anti-Inflammatory Formula (I mentioned it in another post and it got some likes)
Cholesterol Support Formula
Gut Health & Digestion Formula
Gout Formula
Fibromyalgia Formula
Eyesight Health Formula
Any interest in these ingredients?
Palmitoyethanolamide
NewBiome
RhodioPrime 6X (6% Salidrosides)
GlucoVantage
MitoBurn (some interest has been expressed for this in last years thread I believe)
I'm just throwing some ideas out there. I'm open to any other branded ingredients or interesting ingredients that people would like to see from us.
I would like to see a whole body anti-inflammatory formula and an eye health formula. GlucoVantage is an ingredient I would like to see.Any interest in these types of formulas?
Whole Body Anti-Inflammatory Formula (I mentioned it in another post and it got some likes)
Cholesterol Support Formula
Gut Health & Digestion Formula
Gout Formula
Fibromyalgia Formula
Eyesight Health Formula
Any interest in these ingredients?
Palmitoyethanolamide
NewBiome
RhodioPrime 6X (6% Salidrosides)
GlucoVantage
MitoBurn (some interest has been expressed for this in last years thread I believe)
I'm just throwing some ideas out there. I'm open to any other branded ingredients or interesting ingredients that people would like to see from us.
When it comes to heart/cardiovascular health there are really 3 different ways that you can go with things if you think about it.The supplement for inflammation for sure.
I would be interested in the cholesterol supp as well (though a more comprehensive Cardio health formula is most interesting to me).
The Fibromyalgia angle I haven’t seen done. If there’s a market for it, that one is intriguing
There are a lot of people that could benefit from a good Fibromyalgia supplement.The supplement for inflammation for sure.
I would be interested in the cholesterol supp as well (though a more comprehensive Cardio health formula is most interesting to me).
The Fibromyalgia angle I haven’t seen done. If there’s a market for it, that one is intriguing
What do you mean by a general health supplement?Would like a general health supp all in one as well as MitoBurn single ingredient to stack with plenty SNS already has.
Thank you. I like all of those ideas myself.I would like to see a whole body anti-inflammatory formula and an eye health formula. GlucoVantage is an ingredient I would like to see.
That's true, it is regarded as a good anti-inflammatory.Pine pollen is supose to be a good Anti-Inflammatory , you are already covrt in that area
100% I want a good concentration of Bergamonte in any cholesterol formula.When it comes to heart/cardiovascular health there are really 3 different ways that you can go with things if you think about it.
When people say they want an overall cardiovascular health formula, what do they really want? Well, the person with blood pressure issues that doesn't have cholesterol issues hopes its geared towards that; where the person with cholesterol issues but not blood pressure issues hopes its geared towards that. Then there's the person that wants a good overall product that covers both cholesterol and blood pressure but isn't geared too heavily in either direction.
So, what a lot of companies seem to do unfortunately is the 'little bit of everything but not enough of anything approach' towards products like this.
Plus, you couldn't ever really have a product that specialized in all three ways because you would run out of capsule space and it would be way too expensive to be even remotely feasible.
So here's what we decided to do:
We have a very comprehensive blood pressure support formula already in the production lineup now.
We have the formula pretty much complete (although open to suggestions until the labels go to print) for an overall Cardiovascular support formula. This formula will be a great overall formula for cardiovascular health including circulation, blood flow, blood pressure, and cholesterol. And it will be stackable with the blood pressure support formula for people that want to heavily target that aspect.
So that leads us to the cholesterol formula and gauging to see if there is an interest for us to do one of those as well that would be a more targeted high end comprehensive formula specifically for cholesterol support.
For the cholesterol formula, a lot of the branded ingredients that have real clinical research can get very expensive, so its a matter of picking which ones would work the best and that people would like to see in a formula. I'm leaning toward the formula not having Red Yeast Rice in it because many people are scared of that ingredient (although we may offer one separately that people can use with it if there is enough demand). Here are some of the most commonly used and popular ingredients for cholesterol support and I would love to hear people's opinions of which they'd like to see.
Bergamonte (Citrus Bergamot)
Pantethine
Sytrinol
Garlic (Odorless)
Gugglesterones
Policosanol
Pantesin Pantethine is one that we looked into but the raw material cost is over 6.00 per bottle just for that one ingredient.
I had even thought of doing 2 versions of the formula and doing a Red Yeast Rice one and a non - Red Yeast Rice one if there is enough demand for them.100% I want a good concentration of Bergamonte in any cholesterol formula.
Garlic is a solid no-brainer
I would have leaned towards Red Yeast Rice but yea.....
CoQ10/ubiquitol (forgive the spelling but I think that’s what it’s called)
Are you saying for a cholesterol formula?Astragalus, Moringa, Andrographis paniculata,
Citrus bergamot, Nac, Ala, Arjuna, Ubiquinol
You didn't ask me - but it looks like a heart health formula.Are you saying for a cholesterol formula?
I'm curious the reasoning on some of those. I appreciate the suggestions and not disagreeing at all. Some of those just aren't ones that I'd normally think of for cholesterol.
I'm always asking everyone in this thread. I enjoy interacting and throwing ideas around.You didn't ask me - but it looks like a heart health formula.
If that is the intent, I would be interested. Something like, arjuna, Hawthorne berry extract, ginger extract, curcumin, bioperine, ginko, cayenne, bilberry, carnitine, gotu kola and benfotiamine?
I like your suggestion. And you nailed it, I blanked out on Celery (or celery seed extract) and already take Olive Leaf Extract and Nattokinase (K2), so I selfishly didn't include them (but I sure could have).I'm always asking everyone in this thread. I enjoy interacting and throwing ideas around.
It had good overall potential for cardiovascular formula idea; but then the citrus bergamot is more towards cholesterol. So that's why I was asking to clarify which idea it was for. Definitely not asking in a bad way; it supports what I said about there are so many directions one could go with projects like this.
For Heart Health, I like your ideas there, but some have to be dosed so high that its hard to use them in formulas together.
When I think of overall heart health, here are some things I think of:
MenaQ7 (Vitamin K)
Garlic (Odorless)
Olive Leaf
MegaNatural BP Grape Seed Extract
Arjuna
Celery (high 3nb content)
Coenzyme Q10
S7 (inexpensive; nitric oxide and blood flow)
I do think of Hawthorn but I tend to associate that more with a blood pressure product.
I wouldn't use Curcumin in a cardiovascular formula because we have something very special coming in terms of a curcumin product very soon
I appreciate the ideas. I like to hear everyone's different ideas bc I like different perspectives.