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Hey all, do you agree with B Pak on this one?

[video=youtube;q4e5NhUCAJE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4e5NhUCAJE[/video]
 
tommurph said:
That's what I do ever since I heard BPak talk about it 8 mos ago. Now it's just a habit.
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Nice!

Do you see really good results with it?
 
Tagger said:
Nice! Do you see really good results with it?
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It seems that I can manipulate my weight better. For instance, if I have carbs in the morning, and I'm in a calorie deficit, it's harder for me to loose weight or even maintain, it's like I loose control of my weightloss. When I have a high protein 0 carb breakfast, then I'm back in control. I can add carbs if I want or keep them low, I'm in control.
 
tommurph said:
It seems that I can manipulate my weight better. For instance, if I have carbs in the morning, and I'm in a calorie deficit, it's harder for me to loose weight or even maintain, it's like I loose control of my weightloss. When I have a high protein 0 carb breakfast, then I'm back in control. I can add carbs if I want or keep them low, I'm in control.
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Gotcha. Thinking back to when I was gone for basic training and I just shredded fat (we did a lot of cardio too) I remember that I tried no carb when I was there, but it was really a glorified carb cycle.

Eggs and cottage cheese for breakfast everyday and some peanut butter.

Thinking I need to do this as well now to see if it helps me cut it off.

Since I am starting my ECA stack, I might get up, take my ECA, then intermittent fast until 10 and then have my regular meals. Idk, we will see.

Vacation is 4 weeks from yesterday haha.
 
Tagger said:
Gotcha. Thinking back to when I was gone for basic training and I just shredded fat (we did a lot of cardio too) I remember that I tried no carb when I was there, but it was really a glorified carb cycle. Eggs and cottage cheese for breakfast everyday and some peanut butter. Thinking I need to do this as well now to see if it helps me cut it off. Since I am starting my ECA stack, I might get up, take my ECA, then intermittent fast until 10 and then have my regular meals. Idk, we will see. Vacation is 4 weeks from yesterday haha.
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I've tried IF and it didn't work for me, actually made me gain weight, but that's just me, some people get great results. I'm beginning to see as well that what used to work for me doesn't work anymore but it may work again in the future. It seems like my body goes through stages or cycles. Or maybe I'm just crazy idk! Maybe they don't work because I did too many yoyo diets.
 
I think your doing good the way you've been going. I bet just adding this new stack and a little cardio you could knock it on out. What your doing now diet wise, is already working, if you change it up it may throw off the signals in your body and how it reacts to everything like food and exercise.
 
If it's working don't change a thing, leave a couple tools in the box in case you stall
 
tommurph said:
I think your doing good the way you've been going. I bet just adding this new stack and a little cardio you could knock it on out. What your doing now diet wise, is already working, if you change it up it may throw off the signals in your body and how it reacts to everything like food and exercise.
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zcol94 said:
If it's working don't change a thing, leave a couple tools in the box in case you stall
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True that.

You guys are right.

4 weeks is still a long time. Plus I'll be adding in the ECA soon!
 
Boom. About to pop a dose!

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Have you ever tried eca before?
 
I'm not sure of your stim tolerance but you might wanna start at a half dose, and other than that it works, it basically shuts your hunger off, it warms you body up, and feels pretty good once your acclimated to the stims
 
zcol94 said:
I'm not sure of your stim tolerance but you might wanna start at a half dose, and other than that it works, it basically shuts your hunger off, it warms you body up, and feels pretty good once your acclimated to the stims
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I take Adderall from time to time. Pretty much a stimaholic.

Ok here's a update...
 
Not even 10 minutes into this **** I could feel it coming on.

I feel it way up in the dopamine receptors (aka the caffeine) but my body temperature is significantly more than 10 minutes ago.

Will definitely be dosing this in the AM! And depending on how fast I start shedding fat, I may take one for Pre-workout.

Other than that, let's see that fat fall the **** off!
 
Damn.. I'm already in love with this ECA stack. Lmao.
 
Tagger said:
Not even 10 minutes into this **** I could feel it coming on. I feel it way up in the dopamine receptors (aka the caffeine) but my body temperature is significantly more than 10 minutes ago. Will definitely be dosing this in the AM! And depending on how fast I start shedding fat, I may take one for Pre-workout. Other than that, let's see that fat fall the **** off!
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Cool man! I'll have to remember this set up for spring!
 
tommurph said:
Cool man! I'll have to remember this set up for spring!
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Definitely! I'm going to make a video on how to get the ingredients, dosages, etc!
 
Tagger said:
Definitely! I'm going to make a video on how to get the ingredients, dosages, etc!
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that'll help some ppl for sure... I'll never cut without eca again, it's better than anything at a supp shop, and wayyy cheaper too
 
zcol94 said:
that'll help some ppl for sure... I'll never cut without eca again, it's better than anything at a supp shop, and wayyy cheaper too
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Oh **** yah. You can get a two months supply for about 20$...

If you run it at two dosages, it's a one month supply.. Still a cheaper alternative that works better than the regular stuff.
 
You won't need to run 2 doses a day. I use to use ECA back in the 90's I stayed shredded at around 8-9% for a long time. You will eventually up you morning dose. But don't try taking a 2nd dose especially after 4pm. Oh, and don't forget to eat either...lol
 
turff49 said:
You won't need to run 2 doses a day. I use to use ECA back in the 90's I stayed shredded at around 8-9% for a long time. You will eventually up you morning dose. But don't try taking a 2nd dose especially after 4pm. Oh, and don't forget to eat either...lol
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Nice! Can't wait to see the fat fall off!

Ok I'll do it in the morning for now.

Did you put off breakfast to let your body keep burning fat or did you do a no carb breakfast?
 
I workout early morning. Before breakfast. So, if I were you and if you workout early, then do the ECA, take an amino drink with you to sip on during workout, then eat bfast after workout. You'll want and need the carbs post workout and plenty of protein. That's what I'd do.
 
turff49 said:
I workout early morning. Before breakfast. So, if I were you and if you workout early, then do the ECA, take an amino drink with you to sip on during workout, then eat bfast after workout. You'll want and need the carbs post workout and plenty of protein. That's what I'd do.
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Right on.

Thanks for the advice!
 
Awesome! Glad you got it in! I will definitely be using an eca stack next time I cut vs clen- that craziness will only come out if necessary! Lol
 
love2liftkat said:
Awesome! Glad you got it in! I will definitely be using an eca stack next time I cut vs clen- that craziness will only come out if necessary! Lol
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Haha! I want to try Clen sometime just so I can be honest with people about it, you know?

Maybe in the spring. :D
 
I've used eca with great results multiple times but I'm curious about clen as well, I'm not sure when I'll take that next step though
 
zcol94 said:
I've used eca with great results multiple times but I'm curious about clen as well, I'm not sure when I'll take that next step though
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Haha I'll give it a shot in the future and log my experience for you all.
 
Clens not that bad, you just gotta take it slow and watch for any of the sides. Of course you gotta watch for sides on ECA too. Especially the HR. Matter of fact, i started my Clen this morning. 6 week run of 2 weeks on, 2 off, and 2 more on.
 
turff49 said:
Clens not that bad, you just gotta take it slow and watch for any of the sides. Of course you gotta watch for sides on ECA too. Especially the HR. Matter of fact, i started my Clen this morning. 6 week run of 2 weeks on, 2 off, and 2 more on.
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True that. Got a log going?

I'd love to follow it.
 
turff49 said:
Clens not that bad, you just gotta take it slow and watch for any of the sides. Of course you gotta watch for sides on ECA too. Especially the HR. Matter of fact, i started my Clen this morning. 6 week run of 2 weeks on, 2 off, and 2 more on.
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how much fat can you lose since clen is only dosed for two weeks at a time?
 
zcol94 said:
how much fat can you lose since clen is only dosed for two weeks at a time?
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It varies. Depends on diet, conditioning, and effort. I'm looking to lose 1-2%bf over the 6 weeks. I'm sitting conservatively at about 11% maybe a little less. An easily obtainable goal.
 
Tagger said:
True that. Got a log going? I'd love to follow it.
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Not a specific log on the Clen but it's in my log(link in my sig).
 
Really starting to feel the lower calories this week...

Only 4 weeks to go... lol. I'll be looking forward to meal time, everytime, from here on out it seems.
 
Tagger said:
Really starting to feel the lower calories this week... Only 4 weeks to go... lol. I'll be looking forward to meal time, everytime, from here on out it seems.
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IF does wonders. Might not be the smoothest idea but 2 big meals a day is better than a few small ones in my book.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
IF does wonders. Might not be the smoothest idea but 2 big meals a day is better than a few small ones in my book.
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I thought about it, but I just get bloated from the big meals.

Thought about doing IF but the guys had a good point, if I am losing still (which I am) then I shouldn't switch it up now.

I'll keep IF in mind if I stall.
 
Tagger said:
I thought about it, but I just get bloated from the big meals. Thought about doing IF but the guys had a good point, if I am losing still (which I am) then I shouldn't switch it up now. I'll keep IF in mind if I stall.
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I don't see IF as a way to lose weight, more of a way to be satisfied with food during a cut. Though, if you get bloated than you could shy away from it. Just mentioning what I do during cuts when the cravings set in. I have done PSMF and did it with IF, barely felt hungry, still felt like death though.
 
Sounds like you need FINAFLEX Muscle Fiber for the bloat. It's a new product product that has a few logs just finished up. Everyone seems really pleased with it too.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
I don't see IF as a way to lose weight, more of a way to be satisfied with food during a cut. Though, if you get bloated than you could shy away from it. Just mentioning what I do during cuts when the cravings set in. I have done PSMF and did it with IF, barely felt hungry, still felt like death though.
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Oh yah man totally I think it's great advice.

Today I really saw the effects of my diet set it.

Glycogen must finally be getting pumped out cause my workout wasn't anything stellar.
turff49 said:
Sounds like you need FINAFLEX Muscle Fiber for the bloat. It's a new product product that has a few logs just finished up. Everyone seems really pleased with it too.
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Well hell, tell me more! Lol.
 
I'm on mobile and can't link right now. Go to the FINAFLEX company link here under supplement companies.. Several logs and a thread on Muscle Fiber. It's good stuff and has 5grams of Glutamine to aid in recovery also.
 
turff49 said:
I'm on mobile and can't link right now. Go to the FINAFLEX company link here under supplement companies.. Several logs and a thread on Muscle Fiber. It's good stuff and has 5grams of Glutamine to aid in recovery also.
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Will go and check it out! :D

I am definitely interested.

Would love to try some for my bulk coming up. :D
 
Tagger said:
Not even 10 minutes into this **** I could feel it coming on. I feel it way up in the dopamine receptors (aka the caffeine) but my body temperature is significantly more than 10 minutes ago. Will definitely be dosing this in the AM! And depending on how fast I start shedding fat, I may take one for Pre-workout. Other than that, let's see that fat fall the **** off!
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Sorry, I'm a little behind here. This is totally new to me, so keep up the details, Tagger! I've got a few really stubborn lbs I need to get rid of. Could I do this during pct, or is it better to wait?
 
You shouldn't do any type of weight loss during pct. You would definitely lose any gains you developed during cycle.
 
eddieaz said:
Sorry, I'm a little behind here. This is totally new to me, so keep up the details, Tagger! I've got a few really stubborn lbs I need to get rid of. Could I do this during pct, or is it better to wait?
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Will do! I'll let you all know what happens.

Just like Turf said, I wouldn't do it during PCT because you would lose gainz, especially if you did a bulking cycle.

The gains that I have made are pretty insignificant compared to the bulk that I will run over the winter time.
turff49 said:
You shouldn't do any type of weight loss during pct. You would definitely lose any gains you developed during cycle.
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This is true!

Always eat as high (I recommend higher) as you were on cycle.

Gotta keep them gainz.

UPDATE....................................

Down to 173.5 today. Was a little bloated on Monday when I weighed but I was 176.

I don't think I'm losing more than 2lbs a week (the other stuff was obviously **** and water) so all is well!

Still looking full & good right now.

Wish I had a treadmill at home, I'd just knock out my 300 calories right now.
 
Sweet!! I think you are right on target man! You'll be ripped by the time vacation starts!!
 
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